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Post by D4thincarnation Thu 19 May 2011, 10:15 am

Apollo Creed's line from Rocky IV, but what boxer has retired the most men?

It seems Mosley is set to retire, he joins Margarito, Oscar and Hatton as boxers that Pacquiao has retired in his recent run of fights.

Barrera and Morales announced their retirements after Pacquiao beat them too but have subsequently made comebacks.

But I want to know which boxer has retired the most amount of boxer?



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Post by fearlessBamber Thu 19 May 2011, 10:17 am

LOL - it's not a good thing - beating up on legends at the end of their careers.

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu 19 May 2011, 10:18 am

You don't let up, do you ?

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Post by D4thincarnation Thu 19 May 2011, 10:19 am

HumanWindmill wrote:You don't let up, do you ?

Serrious question, who has the most in history?

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Post by coxy0001 Thu 19 May 2011, 10:23 am

I'm sorry

But i thought we were going to cap the amount of Manny and Floyd articles?

I'm sorry, but i'm disgusted this poster is allowed to continue with this. And you can forget this thread not being about the aforementioned fighter, he tried to worm him into every effing article.

I am again disgusted he is allowed to continue to poison this forum.

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Post by Rowley Thu 19 May 2011, 10:24 am

Will take a giant leap of faith and assume this is a genuine question rather than a more than tenuous attempt to cream over Manny again but off the top of my head think a fair few Tyson opponents didn't fight again after losing to him. Can certainly think of Spinks and Bruno but would guess there are a few more my memory refuses to dredge up.

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Post by D4thincarnation Thu 19 May 2011, 10:25 am

coxy0001 wrote:I'm sorry

But i thought we were going to cap the amount of Manny and Floyd articles?

I'm sorry, but i'm disgusted this poster is allowed to continue with this. And you can forget this thread not being about the aforementioned fighter, he tried to worm him into every effing article.

I am again disgusted he is allowed to continue to poison this forum.

This is not about Manny or Floyd, it a question of which boxer has retired the most amount of boxers.

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Post by azania Thu 19 May 2011, 10:26 am

rowley wrote:Will take a giant leap of faith and assume this is a genuine question rather than a more than tenuous attempt to cream over Manny again but off the top of my head think a fair few Tyson opponents didn't fight again after losing to him. Can certainly think of Spinks and Bruno but would guess there are a few more my memory refuses to dredge up.

Pinklon Thomas is another.

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Post by azania Thu 19 May 2011, 10:27 am

fearlessBamber wrote:LOL - it's not a good thing - beating up on legends at the end of their careers.

Agreed. I know of no other boxer who beats up legends at the end of their careers and gets credit for it.

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu 19 May 2011, 10:27 am

D4thincarnation wrote:
HumanWindmill wrote:You don't let up, do you ?

Serrious question, who has the most in history?

No , it isn't a serious question. On the contrary, it is more Manny propaganda. You just raised this issue at one of the ' news ' threads, so if it's relevant there it is not relevant here. Besides, the question cannot be addressed scientifically. There are many factors which influence a fighter's decision to retire.

If this strays into Manny territory I'm going to merge it into the ' news ' thread, wherein you first raised the subject.

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Post by D4thincarnation Thu 19 May 2011, 10:28 am

azania wrote:
fearlessBamber wrote:LOL - it's not a good thing - beating up on legends at the end of their careers.

Agreed. I know of no other boxer who beats up legends at the end of their careers and gets credit for it.


It doesn't matter for what reason why they retired or whether it is a good thing or not, I just want to find who has the most.

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Post by D4thincarnation Thu 19 May 2011, 10:30 am

HumanWindmill wrote:
D4thincarnation wrote:
HumanWindmill wrote:You don't let up, do you ?

Serrious question, who has the most in history?

No , it isn't a serious question. On the contrary, it is more Manny propaganda. You just raised this issue at one of the ' news ' threads, so if it's relevant there it is not relevant here. Besides, the question cannot be addressed scientifically. There are many factors which influence a fighter's decision to retire.

If this strays into Manny territory I'm going to merge it into the ' news ' thread, wherein you first raised the subject.

Not interested in the factor it a question on who has the most.

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Post by D4thincarnation Thu 19 May 2011, 10:31 am

rowley wrote:Will take a giant leap of faith and assume this is a genuine question rather than a more than tenuous attempt to cream over Manny again but off the top of my head think a fair few Tyson opponents didn't fight again after losing to him. Can certainly think of Spinks and Bruno but would guess there are a few more my memory refuses to dredge up.


Good call with Tyson. I'll have a look at his record and see how many he has had.

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Post by fearlessBamber Thu 19 May 2011, 10:32 am

It doesn't matter for what reason why they retired or whether it is a good thing or not, I just want to find who has the most.

It will be highly correlated with who has fought the most opponents. I would start there.

However, there will be outliers - such as cynically managed fighters, who specifically target faded legends and then bribe them into unreasonable contractual obligations so they can skew their record to appear greater than they are.

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu 19 May 2011, 10:33 am

D4thincarnation wrote:
HumanWindmill wrote:
D4thincarnation wrote:
HumanWindmill wrote:You don't let up, do you ?

Serrious question, who has the most in history?

No , it isn't a serious question. On the contrary, it is more Manny propaganda. You just raised this issue at one of the ' news ' threads, so if it's relevant there it is not relevant here. Besides, the question cannot be addressed scientifically. There are many factors which influence a fighter's decision to retire.

If this strays into Manny territory I'm going to merge it into the ' news ' thread, wherein you first raised the subject.

Not interested in the factor it a question on who has the most.

Well it won't be Manny, so why did you cite him ? The question is particularly pertinent since you were, a few minutes ago, rubbing your knees together like an excited schoolgirl and announcing that Manny had retired Mosley, ( at the news thread, ) totally oblivious to the fact that overwhelming worldwide opinion is that Mosley should have retired before he ever got in the ring with Pacquiao.

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Post by Michaels, Sean Thu 19 May 2011, 10:35 am

On a slight tangent, if a boxer retires a lot of other boxers, what does that say about him. He likes fighting over the hill names to prop up his resume?
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Post by D4thincarnation Thu 19 May 2011, 10:37 am

Michaels, Sean wrote:On a slight tangent, if a boxer retires a lot of other boxers, what does that say about him. He likes fighting over the hill names to prop up his resume?

Apollo Creed use to like the phrase.

And Roy Jones jr.

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Post by Peacehavenboy Thu 19 May 2011, 10:40 am

He is retiring old men.... Well done Manny 🤦

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Post by azania Thu 19 May 2011, 10:41 am

More importantly will his fine arced girlfriend stick around? randy

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Post by Peacehavenboy Thu 19 May 2011, 10:43 am

Did you see the interview with Shane where he said Floyd is definatley the better boxer out of Manny and Floyd?

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Post by Michaels, Sean Thu 19 May 2011, 10:43 am

Peacehavenboy wrote:He is retiring old men.... Well done Manny 🤦

Manny 'The Recession' Pacquiao
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Post by Michaels, Sean Thu 19 May 2011, 10:44 am

Peacehavenboy wrote:He is retiring old men.... Well done Manny 🤦

Manny 'The Recession' Pacquiao
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Post by D4thincarnation Thu 19 May 2011, 10:44 am

Peacehavenboy wrote:Did you see the interview with Shane where he said Floyd is definatley the better boxer out of Manny and Floyd?

Read the title of the thread, then read the question it asks.

Then post a reply relevant to that question. thumbsup

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Post by Peacehavenboy Thu 19 May 2011, 10:47 am

Haha, thanks D4.
I am going down my local carehome tonight to beat up some old men and properly retire them. Sound familar?

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu 19 May 2011, 10:48 am

D4thincarnation wrote:
Peacehavenboy wrote:Did you see the interview with Shane where he said Floyd is definatley the better boxer out of Manny and Floyd?

Read the title of the thread, then read the question it asks.

Then post a reply relevant to that question. thumbsup

Why don't you stop telling other members what to do in that superior tone of yours ? NOBODY is guilty of having disrupted and hijacked so many threads as you, either here or at the BBC. You are in no position to assume the high ground.

Respect is a two way street.

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Post by Scottrf Thu 19 May 2011, 10:48 am

Peacehavenboy wrote:Haha, thanks D4.
I am going down my local carehome tonight to beat up some old men and properly retire them. Sound familar?
Can one of the admins check this guys posting history and give him a slap for being such a WUM?

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu 19 May 2011, 10:49 am

Scottrf wrote:
Peacehavenboy wrote:Haha, thanks D4.
I am going down my local carehome tonight to beat up some old men and properly retire them. Sound familar?
Can one of the admins check this guys posting history and give him a slap for being such a WUM?

PM for you, Scott.

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Post by D4thincarnation Thu 19 May 2011, 10:53 am

HumanWindmill wrote:
D4thincarnation wrote:
Peacehavenboy wrote:Did you see the interview with Shane where he said Floyd is definatley the better boxer out of Manny and Floyd?

Read the title of the thread, then read the question it asks.

Then post a reply relevant to that question. thumbsup

Why don't you stop telling other members what to do in that superior tone of yours ? NOBODY is guilty of having disrupted and hijacked so many threads as you, either here or at the BBC. You are in no position to assume the high ground.

Respect is a two way street.

Sorry thats your job.

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Post by Rowley Thu 19 May 2011, 10:55 am

If I either start acting like a tool or getting really wound up by people who do will anyone send me a PM. I don't get many so feel terribly excluded.

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu 19 May 2011, 10:56 am

D4thincarnation wrote:
HumanWindmill wrote:
D4thincarnation wrote:
Peacehavenboy wrote:Did you see the interview with Shane where he said Floyd is definatley the better boxer out of Manny and Floyd?

Read the title of the thread, then read the question it asks.

Then post a reply relevant to that question. thumbsup

Why don't you stop telling other members what to do in that superior tone of yours ? NOBODY is guilty of having disrupted and hijacked so many threads as you, either here or at the BBC. You are in no position to assume the high ground.

Respect is a two way street.

Sorry thats your job.

Wrong. My ' job ' as you put it, is to implement the rules of the forum, which were there long before I came here. You infringe those rules - morally, at the very least - and so I have to step in. Did it ever occur to you that I'd rather discuss boxing ?


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Post by Scottrf Thu 19 May 2011, 10:56 am

rowley wrote:If I either start acting like a tool or getting really wound up by people who do will anyone send me a PM. I don't get many so feel terribly excluded.
Crying or Very sad

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Post by Peacehavenboy Thu 19 May 2011, 10:58 am

Scottrf wrote:
Peacehavenboy wrote:Haha, thanks D4.
I am going down my local carehome tonight to beat up some old men and properly retire them. Sound familar?
Can one of the admins check this guys posting history and give him a slap for being such a WUM?

Sorry if I touched a nerve Scott, I see you are a sensitive chap. Sorry. Very Happy
Back on topic.....When D4 says Manny has retired those guys, do we take them being shot/old into account?
Has Manny ever retired a fighter in their prime?
I will have a look into it.

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Post by Scottrf Thu 19 May 2011, 10:59 am

Apology accepted. You're right, it deeply affected me but hopefully the road to recovery starts now.

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Post by Peacehavenboy Thu 19 May 2011, 11:00 am

Scottrf wrote:Apology accepted. You're right, it deeply affected me but hopefully the road to recovery starts now.

Fingers crossed. Hug

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Post by D4thincarnation Thu 19 May 2011, 11:02 am

Peacehavenboy wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Peacehavenboy wrote:Haha, thanks D4.
I am going down my local carehome tonight to beat up some old men and properly retire them. Sound familar?
Can one of the admins check this guys posting history and give him a slap for being such a WUM?

Sorry if I touched a nerve Scott, I see you are a sensitive chap. Sorry. Very Happy
Back on topic.....When D4 says Manny has retired those guys, do we take them being shot/old into account?
Has Manny ever retired a fighter in their prime?
I will have a look into it.

I could directed here but Windy think I have a superior tone, so you might have to ask someone else.

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Post by Peacehavenboy Thu 19 May 2011, 11:04 am

D4thincarnation wrote:
Peacehavenboy wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Peacehavenboy wrote:Haha, thanks D4.
I am going down my local carehome tonight to beat up some old men and properly retire them. Sound familar?
Can one of the admins check this guys posting history and give him a slap for being such a WUM?

Sorry if I touched a nerve Scott, I see you are a sensitive chap. Sorry. Very Happy
Back on topic.....When D4 says Manny has retired those guys, do we take them being shot/old into account?
Has Manny ever retired a fighter in their prime?
I will have a look into it.

I could directed here but Windy think I have a superior tone, so you might have to ask someone else.
I have no idea what you just said...sorry.

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Post by azania Thu 19 May 2011, 11:12 am

This thread is a joke and will be locked. Anyone objects just PM me.

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