Can Lancaster's England survive a second loss?

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With England 0/1 and still with their nemesis Wales and the resurgent Ireland to face, it's worth thinking about where that leaves England.

Losing again will threaten their 4th placing. Lancaster has staked his reputation on being the second best team in the world by the end of the season. That would see him needing a series clean sweep in NZ to reach his self imposed objective.

With the scrum and lineout both looking less than stable, and questions around the effectiveness of his Backline the saviour of English rugby could be in a tricky spot should he lose either of those encounters.

It's unlikely that Scotland have the players to upset this England squad, but should they do so in one of those freak Scottish upset victories that have become prominent of late, could we hypothetically be looking at a New England coach before the World Cup? Following an historic 6N wooden spoon?

We know that England are a team that play on confidence, and that adversity easily rattles the side and brings them under the scrutiny of Britain's vicious tabloid assault. Just look at the collapse of the celebrated England cricket team. How far away is something similar for the chariot?

BamBam wrote:Not forgetting your room number

He wont need that if I call and cancel the booking. Just kidding, I wouldnt do that.

Why do you want his room number? You going there too?

I would drop by.. Chill for a week on GE . He is multi billionaire isn't he?

No, just so I could cancel the booking.

I hope he doesnt get food poisoning that would ruin the trip

Booking code at the resort is: 'Grey Ghost' if you want to add another room.

He is off to Sochi to be the NZ Team Mascot.

Think this might be the last time Russia hosts a Winter Olympics if the hotel horror stories are true.

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Think this might be the last time Russia hosts a Winter Olympics if the hotel horror stories are true.

Yeti family tearing up hotel rooms? Tranquillisers will take care of them basterauds!

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Think this might be the last time Russia hosts a Winter Olympics if the hotel horror stories are true.

Reminds me when I was in Delhi for the Commonwealth games and most of the athlete's apartments were not finished, there was a lot of raw sweage, sanitation was a word in the dictionary, the subway wasn't finished, and so on.   In Sochi, all the money in the world and the Soviet Union can't execute an Olympics on time.

I blame Lancaster.

doctor_grey wrote:

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Think this might be the last time Russia hosts a Winter Olympics if the hotel horror stories are true.

Reminds me when I was in Delhi for the Commonwealth games and most of the athlete's apartments were not finished, there was a lot of raw sweage, sanitation was a word in the dictionary, the subway wasn't finished, and so on.    In Sochi, all the money in the world and the Soviet Union can't execute an Olympics on time.

I blame Lancaster.

I knew Sochi was twinned with somewhere.

mystiroakey wrote:Why do you use the word Cell?

And where are you going that doesnt have mobile service?

Mafia island. Anyone been there? Best current advice is that mobile phone is "intermittent" and there is no internet despite what a couple of hotels claim. However I'm half prepared to arrive and find a 12 story hilton at the airport with hot and cold running everything.

An Island near Madagascar yeah.

I want to go to Madagascar

About three hours away, yeah, it's in the Zanzibar archipelago.

Have you new there mystri?

Nah never- But as i said I want to go to some remote place like that that is untouched..

I will probally do a safari one day.

It's also incredibly inexpensive in comparison to a branded resort on Zanzibar or in the Seychelles or whatever. I also like the idea of a locally owned place where the staff aren't treated like dirt and made to pander/conform to some americanised ideal of "service".

Yeah I agree- what is the point in going half way around the world to some enclosed resort that gives you western service, food and entertainment.

mystiroakey wrote:Yeah I agree- what is the point in going half way around the world to some enclosed resort that gives you western service, food and entertainment.

Although if they could organise a big screen, a few pints and the six nations it would cap off the holiday nicely.

mystiroakey wrote:Nah never- But as i said I want to go to some remote place like that that is untouched..

I will probally do a safari one day.

Try Barnsley, untouched by way of development for 100 years.





Sorry Barnsleyites, but it is sort of true.

GloriousEmpire wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:Yeah I agree- what is the point in going half way around the world to some enclosed resort that gives you western service, food and entertainment.

Although if they could organise a big screen, a few pints and the six nations it would cap off the holiday nicely.

Lol

You are already regretting it..

You will  be dead bored after 5 days.

After reading through all this bickering I often wonder where the hell do half you guys work? You must get nothing done.

I'm a tradesman so I can have spells of free time to argue on here all day and I can have weeks when socializing on the internet isn't even an option.

Well you need to get busier then don't you,. Jeas the lads that work for me are normally in the cafe by 10 o'clock and finish work at 2 pm most days...

Trust me . For me at least . The more I am on here the more I work. I am on call 24/7.. I would love to not see my emails build by 20 every 30 mins or be able to turn my phone off..

I would love that month in mafia island.. It's all about turning that phone off!!

Mistiroaeky everything ok? Reading through this article is the first time I have ever seen you be so vocal over another poster.lol.

Honestly at some points I was worried for you.

What points..

By the way I bet we all wish we could get back on the tools or have an easy existence like you.. But no we move forward and sadly that means we are stuck behind a PC. The days of being on the tools  and coming home.. Bliss. But sad..do you self a favour and don't judge others..

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GloriousEmpire wrote:It's also incredibly inexpensive in comparison to a branded resort on Zanzibar or in the Seychelles or whatever. I also like the idea of a locally owned place where the staff aren't treated like dirt and made to pander/conform to some americanised ideal of "service".

Wales?

mystiroakey wrote:What points..

By the way I bet we all wish we could get back on the tools or have an easy existence like you.. But no we move forward and sadly that means we are stuck behind a PC. The days of being on the tools  and coming home.. Bliss. But sad..do you self a favour and don't judge others..

lol I do enjoy the sweeping generalization which you have just thrown upon me , why sit behind a PC? Employ a woman to do that for you.

Seriously what's up you seem rather short today?

What's up with you.

You come on here and judge/ generalise everyone . Saying they don't work and that you are a tradesmen that may have to work 3 weeks solid..

Do yourself a favour . Don't start the personal nonsense if you can't take it back,

I always thought Dave was a keep fit instructor? Must be a different Dave...or whatever name I remember him as.

Guys... Quit bickering. You'll just cop a ban. 6N only a week old... I'm sure it wasn't meant as offense, merely a comment expressing either astonishment or amazement.

I can see you're feeling the pressure mystri - winter nearly over though. Everything seems new in spring. Relax. Everything will be ok.

SecretFly wrote:I always thought Dave was a keep fit instructor?  Must be a different Dave...or whatever name I remember him as.

I love powerlifting but as all sensible people I keep what I love as my hobby never my job.

Why is that not sensible?

If you enjoy it, what's wrong with making a career out of it?

mystiroakey wrote:What's up with you.

You come on here and judge/ generalise everyone . Saying they don't work and that you are a tradesmen that may have to work 3 weeks solid..

Do yourself a favour . Don't start the personal nonsense if you can't take it back,

but I always work just the weather may slow me down, I just wonder what likes of you do with your day when you seem to be on here a lot,
You could have easily answered work at a desk and always keep a V2 tab open with a cheeky smiley emotiation at the end,
But you took to telling me how you work harder than me.

because then it becomes work not play

and as jack nicholson said

all work and no play makes jack a dull boy

mystiroakey wrote:Why is that not sensible?

If you enjoy it, what's wrong with making a career out of it?

because inevitability tells you that people will make you hate it eventually and take away the real reason why you enjoyed it to begin with.
My dad owns a gym I don't want it.

No !

quinsforever wrote: as jack nicholson said

all work and no play makes jack a dull boy

..as most of his phone-in Jack-the-Lad later movies proves.....

Mysti have you considered taking up masturbation as a career?

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:

SecretFly wrote:I always thought Dave was a keep fit instructor?  Must be a different Dave...or whatever name I remember him as.

I love powerlifting but as all sensible people I keep what I love as my hobby never my job.

But did you not also coach a bit? Or do I still have the wrong Dave?

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:What's up with you.

You come on here and judge/ generalise everyone . Saying they don't work and that you are a tradesmen that may have to work 3 weeks solid..

Do yourself a favour . Don't start the personal nonsense if you can't take it back,

but I always work just the weather may slow me down, I just wonder what likes of you do with your day when you seem to be on here a lot,
You could have easily answered work at a desk and always keep a V2 tab open with a cheeky smiley emotiation at the end,
But you took to telling me how you work harder than me.

I work bugger all hard. Used to back in the day. But eventually worked out the angles. Everybody has ego and passion and ambition in my line of work. You can either fight it, let it crash over you or build a raft and float in it. I did the last one. I rarely go to the office unless there is a crisis and when I do it's more about making an appearance and then making a lot of hmmm sounds and looking severe until someone else owns a plan to fix whatever the issue is. It's worked so far. Sacrificing ego and personal objectives became easy once I realised all I wanted was to invoice and get paid and I was free to spend my energy doing things I enjoy for free, whether they are constructive or hobbies.

I think we've for a bit bogged down with the all encompassing notion of "job"
"Value" "worth" and "achievement", as a society in general.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Mysti have you considered taking up masturbation as a career?

Have you considered comedy?

GloriousEmpire wrote:
I work bugger all hard. Used to back in the day. But eventually worked out the angles. Everybody has ego and passion and ambition in my line of work. You can either fight it, let it crash over you or build a raft and float in it. I did the last one. I rarely go to the office unless there is a crisis and when I do it's more about making an appearance and then making a lot of hmmm sounds and looking severe until someone else owns a plan to fix whatever the issue is. It's worked so far. Sacrificing ego and personal objectives became easy once I realised all I wanted was to invoice and get paid and I was free to spend my energy doing things I enjoy for free, whether they are constructive or hobbies.

I think we've for a bit bogged down with the all encompassing notion of "job"
"Value" "worth" and "achievement", as a society in general.

That sounds remarkably similar to Nick Easter and Mike Tindalls approach to the last world cup

Genius

GloriousEmpire wrote:

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:What's up with you.

You come on here and judge/ generalise everyone . Saying they don't work and that you are a tradesmen that may have to work 3 weeks solid..

Do yourself a favour . Don't start the personal nonsense if you can't take it back,

but I always work just the weather may slow me down, I just wonder what likes of you do with your day when you seem to be on here a lot,
You could have easily answered work at a desk and always keep a V2 tab open with a cheeky smiley emotiation at the end,
But you took to telling me how you work harder than me.

I work bugger all hard. Used to back in the day. But eventually worked out the angles. Everybody has ego and passion and ambition in my line of work. You can either fight it, let it crash over you or build a raft and float in it. I did the last one. I rarely go to the office unless there is a crisis and when I do it's more about making an appearance and then making a lot of hmmm sounds and looking severe until someone else owns a plan to fix whatever the issue is. It's worked so far. Sacrificing ego and personal objectives became easy once I realised all I wanted was to invoice and get paid and I was free to spend my energy doing things I enjoy for free, whether they are constructive or hobbies.

I think we've for a bit bogged down with the all encompassing notion of "job"
"Value" "worth" and "achievement", as a society in general.

Yes but look at you now.

Many may call you bitter..  Are you really floating on champagne , or is it just filthy Thames water

I have got to a point like yourself in many ways.. I rarely go in my office. I do work from home. I can take of any amount of time I want but I still have to make the key decisions- I still have that ego/control thing going on.. It is only me myself that makes me work when I do., I could delegate every single part of my job out and just collect dividends.. 

I dont because I want more.. And to keep by brain busy.

But I will tell you something GG. If and when I  retire- which could be any time from tomorrow to 50 years time. I wont spend my time winding up people from another country different from my own.

Fair enough mystri.

Will that coincide with your retirement day? Or will you stop before then?

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

That sounds remarkably similar to Nick Easter and Mike Tindalls  approach to the last world cup

If you get paid as much for not trying as you do for trying...then why try? I think that was the philosophy Nick was working on...until he peed it down the toilet

SecretFly wrote:

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

That sounds remarkably similar to Nick Easter and Mike Tindalls  approach to the last world cup

If you get paid as much for not trying as you do for trying...then why try?  I think that was the philosophy Nick was working on...until he peed it down the toilet

There is do and do not, there is no try.

Which strangely may be the motto of both Scott Johnson and Lancaster at the moment.

GloriousEmpire wrote:Fair enough mystri.

Will that coincide with your retirement day? Or will you stop before then?

I am here to support my team GE..

GloriousEmpire wrote:Fair enough mystri.

Will that coincide with your retirement day? Or will you stop before then?

  

The witching hour is the best time for humour on this site.

Crikey NZ have just handed India their backsides in the first innings. This never happens, I predict another earthquake.