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Post by Duty281 Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:00 pm

First topic message reminder :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/269695.stm

And Hoddle's ex girlfriend was this faith healer's daughter...isn't love sweet?


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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:26 am

Any one think sterling may go Brazil??

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Post by compelling and rich Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:27 am

The Special Juan wrote:That's a good an opening 20 minutes as I've ever seen.  What was a big game on Wednesday is now gargantuan for Arsenal.

dont worry about us, we shouldnt be much of a problem. our midfield against there's is a massive mismatch. not to mention our manager

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:28 am

Sterling v Townsend v Adam Johnson for a place

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:29 am

compelling and rich wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:That's a good an opening 20 minutes as I've ever seen.  What was a big game on Wednesday is now gargantuan for Arsenal.

dont worry about us, we shouldnt be much of a problem. our midfield against there's is a massive mismatch. not to mention our manager

Nah I think Utd have a good shot against them. If it's a big win against Fulham tomorrow then one team will be going in full of confidence, the other on a real low.
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Post by Hulking_up Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:29 am

Holy f...! Did i just read that score right on SSN?
4-0 before half time  Shocked 

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:31 am

Hulking_up wrote:Holy f...! Did i just read that score right on SSN?
4-0 before half time  Shocked 


before 20 mins mate!!

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Post by compelling and rich Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:31 am

The Special Juan wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:That's a good an opening 20 minutes as I've ever seen.  What was a big game on Wednesday is now gargantuan for Arsenal.

dont worry about us, we shouldnt be much of a problem. our midfield against there's is a massive mismatch. not to mention our manager

Nah I think Utd have a good shot against them.  If it's a big win against Fulham tomorrow then one team will be going in full of confidence, the other on a real low.

hope you right, ive lost all confidence in this team under moyes. im even expecting fulham to give us a game!!

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Post by Duty281 Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:32 am

4-0 in twenty minutes!

Just had a look at Piers Morgan's Twitter page - he's the worst type of "supporter" a club could have.

And that signing of Kallstrom by Wenger? #inspired

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Post by Hulking_up Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:33 am

mystiroakey wrote:
Hulking_up wrote:Holy f...! Did i just read that score right on SSN?
4-0 before half time  Shocked 


before 20 mins mate!!
I hate early morning kick offs on Saturday.
Been at work all night so only just got myself out of bed and missed this first half  furious 

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Post by monty junior Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:34 am

This could be a brutal week for Arsenal!

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:34 am

Sterling for Brazil for me.. So comfortable on the ball, and that relationship with Sturrudge may make the difference for him who is a sure starter. It's all about partnerships..

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Post by compelling and rich Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:37 am

sterling should be on the plane, but its all about balance for me, youd think it would be sturridge and rooney up top then with two out and out wingers it leaves a lot of pressure on two central mids when we dont keep the ball well anyway. i think we need three in the middle or else we'll be passed of the pitch by most teams

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:41 am

Wilshire forward left, sterling forward right, Gerard , carrick central, Rooney forward central, Sturridge striker

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:43 am

Then terry and Cahill with Baines and Johnson..

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Post by compelling and rich Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:45 am

rooneys not a proper sit in the hole midfielder though he's a striker. weve been struggling all season with just two in middle even when rooneys been playing, he works hard but he's not a midfielder

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:48 am

He is as good a number 10 as there is mate.. the problem with united is you havent had carrick all season and you dont have a Gerard/barkley who is more box to box.

I think for once the england team is better than the united one!!

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Post by Duty281 Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:51 am

Sterling is good but very, very raw.

Would take him to Brazil, but only for the bench initially. Plenty of good players coming through for England, even though *snigger* the FA's youth coaching system doesn't work.

Of course it does! Barkley, Lallana, Sturridge, Oxlade, Walcott, Wilshere, Rodwell, Ward-Prowse etc.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:52 am

Arsenal can recover some momentum by winning this half 2 or 3 nil

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:55 am

I thought Gerard was slowly losing it. But what a game today..

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:56 am

Sterling again. Amazing.

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Post by sportform Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:57 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Sterling v Townsend v Adam Johnson for a place
I would take all three.
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Post by Hulking_up Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:59 am

Hi 5!

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Post by sportform Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:05 am

Jack Wilshere has been all mouth and no action for pretty much most of this season. Henderson has been much more of a solid player this year. I think the media hype around Wilshere may have gone to his head.
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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:07 am

I am not bothered about bringing any players that can't retain possession or arnt supremely comfortable on the ball.
Townsend can run with it, Johnson is a quality old school English player but sterling is the real deal..


England have got to the point were we can field a team and a bench with players that can rival other teams on the ball. Gerard can provide the typical British heart and delivery. The rest can just play football. We need to write of thinking we can win and actually play football. There is no reason why England can't play similar to this Liverpool . And that would give us respect.. Even hibbz might start supporting us again..

Sorry for the hyperbole lads.. Just needed to let it out Wink

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:10 am

Funny, Sterling is the most overrated of them in my eyes. Pretty sure if Johnson and Townsend arent comfortable on the ball then they have no other redeeming features. Generally a poor finisher and I think would get exposed at top level international football. Not a big fan of all three of em if i'm honest. Rather take Lallana and the Ox.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:12 am

Townsend had a two game purple patch... His redeeming feature is excess speed.. He is just another a typical British winger. One of many

Sterling has been quality all season.. Cuts in side and passes well,

Johnson looks like a big fish in a small pond..


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Post by GSC Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:12 am

One of those days for Arsenal. Just didn't turn up
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:13 am

I think Johnson is in the best form of those three at the moment, he's really stood up for Sunderland in recent weeks, if they avoid relegation it's as much to do with him as it is Poyet. Johnson and Sterling for me, aside from that one good game Townsend hasn't done a lot.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:14 am

But I do agree with you about ox and lallana..

They are on the plane for me.

But it's sterling, ox and lallana..

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Post by sportform Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:15 am

mystiroakey wrote:I am not bothered about bringing any players that can't retain possession
Well that's Gerrard out then. He has given the ball away so much this afternoon (as per usual). Too much 'Hollywood stuff'.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:17 am

Yet he did the job in the England side, Townsend, so now hes not flavour of the month he can be cast aside? Sterling is fine, but hes got nothing on Walcott and Walcott isn't even a lock to play when hes fit.

I'd be more excited by him if he wasnt one of the clone army of nippy little wingers England have produced in the past ten years who are all pace no product

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:18 am

sportform wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:I am not bothered about bringing any players that can't retain possession
Well that's Gerrard out then. He has given the ball away so much this afternoon (as per usual). Too much 'Hollywood stuff'.
I did say everyone bar Gerard if you read the rest of my post. I think his delivery is something we still need under certain scenarios.. He isn't hindering liverpools game today ,yet he has also provided world class deliveries from dead balls.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:20 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Yet he did the job in the England side, Townsend, so now hes not flavour of the month he can be cast aside? Sterling is fine, but hes got nothing on Walcott and Walcott isn't even a lock to play when hes fit.

I'd be more excited by him if he wasnt one of the clone army of nippy little wingers England have produced in the past ten years who are all pace no product
Erm no I wouldn't  say he is a clone.. I would say Townsend is the speedy clone.. Sterling is very comfortable on the ball and can pass.. 

Off course we would all start Walcott. But he won't be there, it's immaterial to the discussion..

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Post by Guest Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:22 am

Have to laugh at Piers Morgan's twitter page.

What a day for Arsenal. Agree on Ozil (DZ I think). That's why Mourinho constantly substituted him for Madrid, he's either a star or distinctly average. He needs to step up in high pressure matches. As for Giroud, we knew his capabilities & limitations, just not good enough to lead Arsenal to a Championship.

Excellent performance from Liverpool. Manchester United won't be enjoying the score either.

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:24 am

I'm enjoying it...
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Post by sportform Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:28 am

Adam Johnson is too underrated. He should have been on the plane four years ago in South Africa. It didn't go for him at Man City.

I can remember watch Sterling play for the England at the World Youth Cup. He was easily England's best player and a huge threat to the opposition. I would have loved to have seen him play in the centre, no 10 position, in that tournament but because he is small and quick he got shoved out wide and was easier to defence against.

Ox and Lallana had good qualities but I don't see them winning a game for you the way Sterling, Johnson or Townsend could.
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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:30 am

Ox has done it before mate... For England as well

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:31 am

mystiroakey wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Yet he did the job in the England side, Townsend, so now hes not flavour of the month he can be cast aside? Sterling is fine, but hes got nothing on Walcott and Walcott isn't even a lock to play when hes fit.

I'd be more excited by him if he wasnt one of the clone army of nippy little wingers England have produced in the past ten years who are all pace no product
Erm no I wouldn't  say he is a clone.. I would say Townsend is the speedy clone.. Sterling is very comfortable on the ball and can pass.. 

Off course we would all start Walcott. But he won't be there, it's immaterial to the discussion..

Sterling's end product is not good enough for me. Not a great finisher, not a great passer. I think he's good, but not England good. Hes like Lennon in the regard.

Townsend is very different to the English wingers, hes just a bad Bale clone. But, he was brilliant for England when he played so should be considered ahead of Sterling at the moment.

Can't have the argument that Sterling is "comfortable on the ball" but Johnson and Townsend aren't.

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Post by LastDamnation Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:35 am

Days like this I'm glad I block piers morgan.

Got to bounce back wednesday

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:35 am


Sterling rightfully gets man of the match Wink

Potential wise we can add zaha to this list as well. The fact we have so many is testiment to england at the moment.

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Post by Ent Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:36 am

Over rating them much mysti?


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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:40 am

Overarting who..

Zaha, sterling, ox walcot are quality..

Townsend is the most overrated . But he has done the business.

But a fit dyer allways get a game over him at totenham..

We have talent there no doubts.. as well as left back. The problem is every other position


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Post by lfc91 Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:40 am

Briliant display! Proved me wrong, i was cr*ping myself before this game!

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Post by Ent Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:42 am

3/4 unproven. 2 injury prone. Walcott very inconsistent.

That collection won't win you a World Cup in any team.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:42 am

Ent wrote:3/4 unproven. 2 injury prone. Walcott very inconsistent.

That collection won't win you a World Cup in any team.

Nonsense

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:43 am

Could Arsenal cost Man u the chamoions league? Liverpool are 4th and just beat Arsenal to move 10points clear of man u. If Arsenal beat man u next week and liverpool beat fulham then liverpool will be 13 points clear of man u.

Man u's chances of getting top 4 are being destroyed by Arsenal.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:44 am

Walcott has scored and assisted 30 odd goals in his last 30 games.

The player is so underrated it's becoming a joke. Every game he puts in a shift

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:45 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:Could Arsenal cost Man u the chamoions league? Liverpool are 4th and just beat Arsenal to move 10points clear of man u. If Arsenal beat man u next week and liverpool beat fulham then liverpool will be 13 points clear of man u.

Man u's chances of getting top 4 are being destroyed by Arsenal.

I don't think you can blame arsernal.

Liverpool will cost united a cl spot because there are so much better.

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Post by Ent Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:45 am

mystiroakey wrote:
Ent wrote:3/4 unproven. 2 injury prone. Walcott very inconsistent.

That collection won't win you a World Cup in any team.

Nonsense

No, true have a look back at recent international tournament winning squads or even those who went deep into the tournament and see how many of them had 3 unproven (at cl level never mind international level) in the side.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:45 am

A fit Dyer gets a game over Townsend at Tottenham? Kieron? Nathan? Lloyd?

Townsend has been injured, give him a chance yet

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