Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

[mystiroakey]

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Not sure what's going to happen in t his game..

More bothered about watching what Ox can do again..

Its not a forgone conclusion for me.

I do think Moyesball is pretty decent against possession teams..

[Guest]

Rodwell? really!?

[westisbest]

I would add Scott Sinclair to the list.
Not so much bad attitude, but how his career has gone, if we're talking wasted young english talent.
Saw the £ signs at City and left Swansea, where he was one of their best players.
 
To me should have stayed at Swansea.
Might have had a great season. Who knows, could have been a 'surprise' call up for England this summer.
 
Might be stretching it a bit, but to use 2 very important words in life, 'what if'.

[Duty281]

Rodwell? really!?

A pathetic lack of ambition - happy to just sit on the bench and play in Carling Cup games for Citeh while the money piles in.

No ambition equals a poor attitude.

[GSC]

How is moving to the current PL champions, for a higher salary, a sign of poor attitude?

99.9% of the world would do the same thing

[Guest]

How is moving to the current PL champions, for a higher salary, a sign of poor attitude?

99.9% of the world would do the same thing

 

[Duty281]

How is moving to the current PL champions, for a higher salary, a sign of poor attitude?

99.9% of the world would do the same thing

No, that's fine. It's the part where he's happy to sit on the bench or waste away in the reserves that shows a lack of ambition.

That happened to Adam Johnson; difference was he moved, now starts regularly, and has a chance of making the squad to Brazil.

[Fernando]

I don't blame Rodwell for doing so but He wasn't realistically going to play at Citeh and he hasn't. So just sitting on the bench collecting his cheque. It tells you everything when Martin Demichelis is picked at DM ahead of you when he's a CB.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Rodwell???

You've got to be kidding me

[GSC]

Who says hes happy to. I'd be more disappointed if he didn't back himself after 1 injury hit season.

You want a shining example of lack of ambition, look at Tom Ince refusing to budge from daddys side at a small Championship club.

[CFCNick]

Is Zaha that bad?

Bit cocky but all he (allegedly) did was dip his wick...

In the company ink

[Gregers]

Sinclair is a great shout

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Sinclair was never that good anyways, although he probably falls into the category of trying his trade at a higher level than he's worth. Not sure that means he has a "poor attitude" cos of that tho

[Gregers]

At Chelsea Sinclair was very cocky, goes to Swansea and performs, then goes to Citeh and is cocky again

What about Sterling? Still performs but that guy has issues off the pitch

[GSC]

I'm still confused as to why moving to a bigger club is a sign of poor attitude.

[NickisBHAFC]

Morrison, Zaha, Richards, Ranger, Sinclair,Frimpong, Rooney is hardly an angel.

Could name more.

[compelling and rich]

micah richards never reached his potenial, people will blame injuries but you see him enough round town to know he's likes the otherside of his lifestyle a little too much

swp, rodwell, sinclair all chased the money and their careers have stalled dramatically because of doing so, there quite happy sitting back collecting a wage. nothing wrong with moving to a big club but they should know what football they are going to get, there quite happy rotting in the reserves

kieron dyer was raved about at first, think you can actually blame injuries on this one though

the leeds lot (bowyer, woodgate, bridges etc) all had good ability, showed that with there champions league run, yet majority have faded to be championship players at best

robbie fowler- controversial maybe, but the guy was unbelievably talented but was pretty much finished as a top class player at 26 when he left Liverpool. no hunger as he had everything he wanted

joe cole- bags of ability but you look at his career, other than a few season at chelsea i think overall he's under achieved.

the majority of these players all came through as shining talents yet by the time there 30 (which should be there peak) most were no where near as good. injuries played a part in few of the cases but do think the little englander mentality comes in once they have made there money

[compelling and rich]

oh and im pretty sure you'll be able to add morrison and zaha onto that list pretty soon

[NickisBHAFC]

I think Zaha has enough ability to make it as a great footballer in the Prem. But his attitude really is very unprofessional. Last season, when he got fouled, or tackled and the defender would offer a hand up, he would refuse and push the player away. Also at the end of the games, he would rarely shake other players hands and the match officials. He also dives a lot and winges etc. Just strikes me as a nasty piece of work. The whole thing with Moyes etc confirms it.

None the less great player. But Morrison on the other hand, seems to have too many off the field problems and not have enough talent like Zaha, so i can see him becoming a so called faded footballer in the future.

[GSC]

We get it Nick, Zaha played for Palace.

[GSC]

I wonder if Luke Shaw will have a poor attitude if he moves to Chelsea in the summer?

[compelling and rich]

zaha hasnt proven anything yet, one good season in the championship doesnt make you a good player just ask tom cleverly

if shaw moves he will move to be a first team regular, did anybody really believe sinclair was going to get games when he moved to city? none of us did, him and his representatives surely couldn't have been that naive.

parker moved to chelsea for the money, when he werent getting games he wanted out. fair play to him

[GSC]

Yes, Sinclair should've told the current PL Champions to do one when they attempted to sign him. Why would he suspect City didn't want him to play when they paid money for him. Meanwhile, as per your Parker example, Sinclairs at West Brom currently.

Logical?

[compelling and rich]

parker was at chelsea for a total of one year before he moved, it wasnt too damaging on his career long term, swp wasted too long and sincliar has been there nearly two seasons and hasnt had a sniff, he's only just gone out on loan then got injured. time will tell if he's stagnated

i couldnt get into a premier league footballers head if i tried but me persoanlly would rather be earning 30,000k a week and playing than 60,000k rotting in the reserves. either way your going to be stupidly rich

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

parker was at chelsea for a total of one year before he moved, it wasnt too damaging on his career long term, swp wasted too long and sincliar has been there nearly two seasons and hasnt had a sniff, he's only just gone out on loan then got injured. time will tell if he's stagnated

i couldnt get into a premier league footballers head if i tried but me persoanlly would rather be earning 30,000k a week and playing than 60,000k rotting in the reserves. either way your going to be stupidly rich

So you'd rather play for a Norwich each week than try to progress at a Arsenal/Chelsea etc with the prospect of European football, trophies, more money etc?

[GSC]

The only significant difference seems to be that Parker has a reputation as a tireless CM and Sinclair a winger. He went out on loan to find football all the same.

[GSC]

parker was at chelsea for a total of one year before he moved, it wasnt too damaging on his career long term, swp wasted too long and sincliar has been there nearly two seasons and hasnt had a sniff, he's only just gone out on loan then got injured. time will tell if he's stagnated

i couldnt get into a premier league footballers head if i tried but me persoanlly would rather be earning 30,000k a week and playing than 60,000k rotting in the reserves. either way your going to be stupidly rich

So you'd rather play for a Norwich each week than try to progress at a Arsenal/Chelsea etc with the prospect of European football, trophies, more money etc?

Cheers Olly, thought I was going insane here.

[Duty281]

parker was at chelsea for a total of one year before he moved, it wasnt too damaging on his career long term, swp wasted too long and sincliar has been there nearly two seasons and hasnt had a sniff, he's only just gone out on loan then got injured. time will tell if he's stagnated

i couldnt get into a premier league footballers head if i tried but me persoanlly would rather be earning 30,000k a week and playing than 60,000k rotting in the reserves. either way your going to be stupidly rich

So you'd rather play for a Norwich each week than try to progress at a Arsenal/Chelsea etc with the prospect of European football, trophies, more money etc?

Well yes.

Who's got more chance of making the World Cup squad - Rodwell at Manchester City, or Johnson at little old Sunderland?

[GSC]

Who's got more chance of making the world cup squad, Raheem Sterling or Tom Ince

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

parker was at chelsea for a total of one year before he moved, it wasnt too damaging on his career long term, swp wasted too long and sincliar has been there nearly two seasons and hasnt had a sniff, he's only just gone out on loan then got injured. time will tell if he's stagnated

i couldnt get into a premier league footballers head if i tried but me persoanlly would rather be earning 30,000k a week and playing than 60,000k rotting in the reserves. either way your going to be stupidly rich

So you'd rather play for a Norwich each week than try to progress at a Arsenal/Chelsea etc with the prospect of European football, trophies, more money etc?

Well yes.

Who's got more chance of making the World Cup squad - Rodwell at Manchester City, or Johnson at little old Sunderland?

Yes cos the England squad is just full of players from Norwich, West Ham, Fulham et al and bereft of players from Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea etc   

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Strange old world when you're pillared for wanting to go try be one of the best/test yourself against the best but applauded for plugging away in mediocrity

[GSC]

Has Adam Johnson played for England since leaving City?

[Hibbz]

Can I add Gary Charles to the list even though it was a fair few years ago?

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Rodwell was fine for moving, poor for staying. Dont care how much ambition people think you have cos you're at a big club, his ambition is to sit and watch Demichelis play ahead of him. WOOP DE DOO RODDERS!

Can we please stop talking about Zaha behind Mysti's back...

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Rodwell was fine for moving, poor for staying. Dont care how much ambition people think you have cos you're at a big club, his ambition is to sit and watch Demichelis play ahead of him. WOOP DE DOO RODDERS!

Well has anybody tried to sign him? Can't go anywhere if Citeh won't sell/nobody bids for him

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Does he appear to have made much effort? A player with ambition would have made it pretty obvious he wasnt going to sit and watch Milner and Demichelis play his preferred position.

[Fernando]

He'd have been back at Everton if Citeh had landed Fernando from Porto so expect to see that in the summer considering Fernando is signing on a free

[GSC]

Because I'm sure Rodwell thought at the start of the season that Demichilis would be playing DM ahead of him. How dare he believe he could hack it at a top club.

[compelling and rich]

Who's got more chance of making the world cup squad, Raheem Sterling or Tom Ince

rubbish example as both are playing. one for a big club and one for a small club, the point was that which is best not playing at all or playing every week for a smaller club

and to the ealrier question, yes i would rather be playing in the prem week in week out than rotting away in the reserves for more money

[Fernando]

Who's got more chance of making the world cup squad, Raheem Sterling or Tom Ince

and to the ealrier question, yes i would rather be playing in the prem week in week out than rotting away in the reserves for more money

Well kudos to C & R if i had a 17 year career in football 18-35 id milk the bugger for all it's worth  

[GSC]

Raheem Sterling went to a big club and made the grade. Tom Ince shied away from a PL move several times.

Works both ways. If Rodwell had managed to force his way into Citys team through injury or form he'd stand a much better chance of going to Brazil than playing a full season for Norwich.

Players want to play at the top level, I'd have less respect for Rodwell if he had thrown in the towel rather than fight for his place. Unfortunately he lost that fight and I'm sure he'll be surplus in the summer.

[GSC]

Who's got more chance of making the world cup squad, Raheem Sterling or Tom Ince

and to the ealrier question, yes i would rather be playing in the prem week in week out than rotting away in the reserves for more money

Well kudos to C & R if i had a 17 year career in football 18-35 id milk the bugger for all it's worth  

Lets be brutally honest Nando, everybody here would do the same. Money talks after all

[westisbest]

Strange old world when you're pillared for wanting to go try be one of the best/test yourself against the best but applauded for plugging away in mediocrity

Yes but if your not playing at the better sides, than its time to move on and try to play regular football.
 No point in sitting in the reserves not playing.

Not going achieve anything that way.

Id rather be in Adam Johnson's shoes than Jack Rodwell's, for example.

Playing every week aNd playing well, with more chance of representing my country in the summer.

Just my take on the subject.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Wait? Didnt we just have a january transfer window? Or a whole year of him not playing beforehand? Damn these ignored facts!

[compelling and rich]

Who's got more chance of making the world cup squad, Raheem Sterling or Tom Ince

and to the ealrier question, yes i would rather be playing in the prem week in week out than rotting away in the reserves for more money

Well kudos to C & R if i had a 17 year career in football 18-35 id milk the bugger for all it's worth  

lets not get carried away here, most first team prem footballers are on 30,000 a week plus, im not saying id turn down 80,000 over 1,200 a week. 30,000 is more money than i could spend anyway. its nearly 1 and half mil a year, say your career only lasted ten years that's 15 mil., probably half that with tax

[GSC]

Rodwell would've likely been back at Everton had City landed Fernando

[westisbest]

Who's got more chance of making the world cup squad, Raheem Sterling or Tom Ince

and to the ealrier question, yes i would rather be playing in the prem week in week out than rotting away in the reserves for more money

Well kudos to C & R if i had a 17 year career in football 18-35 id milk the bugger for all it's worth  

Lets be brutally honest Nando, everybody here would do the same. Money talks after all

I wouldn't mate. I would actually want to play the sport i love for a less wage than someone who is getting paida lot  more, but doing f all.
I wouldn't want to look back on my career thinking god i was wasted on the bench, when i know i was talented to play regular footbal, even if it was for a weaker team and less money.

More respect in that.
To some people thats more important.  

But thats just me.

[GSC]

Its all very well saying that now. Its quite another when the contracts sat in front of you.

I'd take the money. No shame in it. As Nando says, limited lifespan and the real chance that an injury could scupper your career.

[compelling and rich]

Its all very well saying that now. Its quite another when the contracts sat in front of you.

I'd take the money. No shame in it. As Nando says, limited lifespan and the real chance that an injury could scupper your career.

kind of sums my point up about the english mentality, there are plenty of footballers like you. thats why they never fulfill their potential. you do really think to messi and ronaldo money is the be all and end all?

[westisbest]

Thats what i would do GSC.

Like i said i would want to play every week.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

And its not just the money usually either. There's the chance to play with/against better players, on a bigger stage, with more chance of winning silverware.

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