Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

[mystiroakey]

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Not sure what's going to happen in t his game..

More bothered about watching what Ox can do again..

Its not a forgone conclusion for me.

I do think Moyesball is pretty decent against possession teams..

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Thoughts on Morrison?


west hams turn around hasn't been the return of Carroll but actually coincided with Morrison going on loan..who although looks by far the best hammer, could have affected the dressing room?

Its been the bulk of players coming back fit. We had no centre backs for a few games, Nolan kept getting suspended etc. Whats happened is we've settled on the better keeper, got the defence sorted and Nolan has had a rest and found form. Arguably, big Andy coming back for that Swansea game was inspirational, but really it was the Chelsea shut out.

The Morrison stuff wont have been a bother to anyone really, his issue was with Sam and Sam wasnt fussed. We're still without arguably our best player (Winston Reid maybe a bit better than Noble) but only due to how well Collins n Tomkins have done.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Losing to Cardiff and West Ham generally doesn't inspire confidence

And you are conveniently leaving out a draw and win against Man City & Spurs.  Maybe every manager whose team loses to Cardiff & West Ham in the same season should be sacked ?

Today was a great win, but I've seen these "great" wins a few times this season, and they've often been followed by disappointing runs of results against teams around us (lest we forget we somehow failed to beat Fulham on three occasions already this year). Villa away, Stoke home next two games. Need to be taking at least 4 points from those games.

"At least 4 points"..........With all due respect, with that sort of attitude,supporting Norwich City in the Premier League is going to leave you continually disappointed.

Sorry I should just be happy little old Norwich can play under some bright lights and on the TV a few times. How dare I expect to beat teams around us, silly silly me

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Losing to Cardiff and West Ham generally doesn't inspire confidence

And you are conveniently leaving out a draw and win against Man City & Spurs.  Maybe every manager whose team loses to Cardiff & West Ham in the same season should be sacked ?

Today was a great win, but I've seen these "great" wins a few times this season, and they've often been followed by disappointing runs of results against teams around us (lest we forget we somehow failed to beat Fulham on three occasions already this year). Villa away, Stoke home next two games. Need to be taking at least 4 points from those games.

"At least 4 points"..........With all due respect, with that sort of attitude,supporting Norwich City in the Premier League is going to leave you continually disappointed.

At least 4 points very well may be needed for survival, theyre sides in amongst them. A little bit patronising cos its Norwich

[GSC]

Unfortunately, Ravel Morrison seems to be one of those twonks with 0 appreciation for what it takes to succeed.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

well i think sunderlands appointment of Poyet on reflection was ok. Palaces obviously was the pick of the Changes

I think at the other end- it was insane to get rid of AVB as well though. But i am pretty much alone on that one on here. But maybe after recent results some will change there minds

Di Canio shouldn't be allowed manage,so that was fine and while i thought Palace were hasty, Pulis has proven to be fantastic. The sacking of Steve Clarke, to me, sticks out as one of the worst decisions i've seen in years. 8th last year and doing reasonably well this year.

But Clarke was taking West Brom down. Form for a long time had been poor. I wasnt really behind it or against it, it made sense on both sides of the argument.

Not sure why Paolo shouldnt be allowed to manage, the media have done a number on him cos he was strict with the Sunderland players, conveniently ignoring he kept them up and that his whole fitness regime is based on coming strong late in the season. Which they appear to be doing.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

And my last point on this patch of replies (!) is that I always thought sacking AVB was harsh and got slated for it. Sherwood appears to be doing around about the same result, but Adebayor is playing. Give it 6 months and Ade will have got bored again

[GSC]

If you only paid attention to Clarkes first 6 months he deserved to stay.

[westisbest]

JC

No reason Norwich cant take 4 points against us and Stoke.

Tbh I can see them taking 6.

Not beyond them.

We need to beat Norwich though.
Have Chelsea after that(man city game changed).

[mystiroakey]

I am seriously worried again(well not really as going back down was very much the likelihood whoever managed us)

but it looks like many other teams are coming good at the money end..

Palace may not have enough..

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I am seriously worried again(well not really as going back down was very much the likelihood whoever managed us)

but it looks like many other teams are coming good at the money end..

Palace may not have enough..

What's your remaining fixtures Mysti? I'd fancy you to get more points than Sunderland at least (assuming Fulham/Cardiff are gone)

[westisbest]

We travel to Selhurst Park on the 12th April(hope to be there).

Another huge game.

[mystiroakey]

I dont know to be honest, but there is no way we could pull of a result like norwich did today..

These other teams can claim the odd scalp that gives them bonus points. Fulham for my money could also do the same.

I only think Cardiff are definitely down for now.

that leaves two spots

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I dont know to be honest, but there is no way we could pull of a result like norwich did today..

These other teams can claim the odd scalp that gives them bonus points. Fulham for my money could also do the same.

I only think Cardiff are definitely down for now.

that leaves two spots

I cant see Fulham winning enough games to stay up, they concede too many. Won't win enough games. Sunderland's cup exploits could derail them. WBA should scrape home. Tbh mate I think Palace's home form will see them through. Pulis is a good manager

One thing we can do is pull off a big result at home. We've always done it, even back in the 04/05 season when we went down we beat Utd 2-0 at home. Just something that we can do from time to time. Must be something in the water  

[Hammersmith harrier]

And didn't he also perform v arsenal,,

Swansea totally out run napoli as well..

if we play that 10 men behind the ball v Italy this time i will be supporting Holland,

He performed ok Mysti, do think it's easy to over rate some of the Liverpool players because of S&S and Henderson has benefitted from that a great deal. That being said our central midfield is pretty poor so he can't be far off the first team, would still rather play Carrick though.

[NickisBHAFC]

Fulham, Cardiff and West Brom for me.

[GSC]

I'd rather play Henderson than Carrick. He's never performed for England

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

MOTD 2 taking apart our passing, putting it down to McNally's interview. That's how we play every week   

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

God they don't half talk some sh!te

Please watch us properly if you're gonna make an attempt to analyse us.

Danny Mills really hasn't a single goddamn clue

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Somehow made it seem like we lost that game 3-0. Well played MOTD, just ignore the whole Norwich performance.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Slating RVW's work rate, despite him closing down Bentaleb for the goal, and forcing numerous miskicks from the CB's. All his game has been this season is work rate, works his socks off everytime he's on.

Danny Mills can suck my schlong.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

"Villa have got too much", says Kilbane.

2 wins in 13 for them.

(bangs head against wall)

[Duty281]

Slating RVW's work rate, despite him closing down Bentaleb for the goal, and forcing numerous miskicks from the CB's. All his game has been this season is work rate, works his socks off everytime he's on.

Danny Mills can suck my schlong.

Even I'm not that desperate!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Fair to say the national media hasn't endeared itself to me this weekend.

I'll be sticking to Radeewww Naaaarrrrrrridge

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Dirk Nowitzki is a Norwich fan. Wtf

[socal1976]

Swansea v. LFC was an amazing match. Ranks up there with my current top 3 matches of the season. Arsenal v. Man City, Liverpool v. Everton, and Liverpool v. Swansea. Spurs show why they simply are not a threat for CL or the title, if Adebayor isn't in the mood they have nobody else that can get goals consistently. Soldado is one of the worst flops in the history of the premier league, I actually feel bad for the guy.

[Pierce Quincy]

JC

No reason Norwich cant take 4 points against us and Stoke.

Tbh I can see them taking 6.

Not beyond them.

We need to beat Norwich though.
Have Chelsea after that(man city game changed).

Villa can take a point against Chelsea if they play well, especially in midfield. Making good use of possession would be crucial IMO.

[Duty281]

JC

No reason Norwich cant take 4 points against us and Stoke.

Tbh I can see them taking 6.

Not beyond them.

We need to beat Norwich though.
Have Chelsea after that(man city game changed).

Villa can take a point against Chelsea if they play well, especially in midfield. Making good use of possession would be crucial IMO.

Welcome to the forum, sir.   

[Pierce Quincy]

United essentially need liverpool to lose 4 more games than they themselves lose in the run in e.g. if united lose 3 out of their remaining fixtures they would need liverpool to lose 7...

Or Man United could win the Champions League and Liverpool would miss out if they finish fourth. The last time that could happen. From 2015-16 one country can have five teams in it.

Wouldn't be surprised if they pulled that of just to spite us! Not beyond the realms that we finish higher than 4th though and then that wouldn't be our problem.

You're thinking 3rd, I'm saying they should have a go at the title. I mean 4 pts isn't a big enough gap for Chelsea to be comfortable.
And things can change very quickly in the PL. All liverpool need are slip-ups from the teams above them, which is quite possible.
So, the title race is still a 4-horse race IMO
oops! 3.5 horse race. There is also 'the little one'   

[Pierce Quincy]

JC

No reason Norwich cant take 4 points against us and Stoke.

Tbh I can see them taking 6.

Not beyond them.

We need to beat Norwich though.
Have Chelsea after that(man city game changed).

Villa can take a point against Chelsea if they play well, especially in midfield. Making good use of possession would be crucial IMO.

Welcome to the forum, sir.   

Thanks @Duty281!   

[Guest]

United essentially need liverpool to lose 4 more games than they themselves lose in the run in e.g. if united lose 3 out of their remaining fixtures they would need liverpool to lose 7...

Or Man United could win the Champions League and Liverpool would miss out if they finish fourth. The last time that could happen. From 2015-16 one country can have five teams in it.

Wouldn't be surprised if they pulled that of just to spite us! Not beyond the realms that we finish higher than 4th though and then that wouldn't be our problem.

You're thinking 3rd, I'm saying they should have a go at the title. I mean 4 pts isn't a big enough gap for Chelsea to be comfortable.
And things can change very quickly in the PL. All liverpool need are slip-ups from the teams above them, which is quite possible.
So, the title race is still a 4-horse race IMO
oops! 3.5 horse race. There is also 'the little one'   

We're in the position where we can actually do something about it as opposed to relying on other teams to throw a spanner in the works though. BTW big shout out to Norwich for the win yesterday. Nice six point gap between us and the chasers and we have a bunch of winnable games

[Guest]

Duty, stop flirting with the new people

[Duty281]

Duty, stop flirting with the new people

Shhhh!

[mystiroakey]

lol..

[Guest]

Duty, stop flirting with the new people

Shhhh!

I'm only jealous

[Stella]

A four horse race is reaching it's climax, well nearly. Still think Arsenal may win it, if they can get some points against Chelsea and City. Be great if there's one point in it, come last day.

[Pierce Quincy]

United essentially need liverpool to lose 4 more games than they themselves lose in the run in e.g. if united lose 3 out of their remaining fixtures they would need liverpool to lose 7...

Or Man United could win the Champions League and Liverpool would miss out if they finish fourth. The last time that could happen. From 2015-16 one country can have five teams in it.

Wouldn't be surprised if they pulled that of just to spite us! Not beyond the realms that we finish higher than 4th though and then that wouldn't be our problem.

You're thinking 3rd, I'm saying they should have a go at the title. I mean 4 pts isn't a big enough gap for Chelsea to be comfortable.
And things can change very quickly in the PL. All liverpool need are slip-ups from the teams above them, which is quite possible.
So, the title race is still a 4-horse race IMO
oops! 3.5 horse race. There is also 'the little one'   

We're in the position where we can actually do something about it as opposed to relying on other teams to throw a spanner in the works though. BTW big shout out to Norwich for the win yesterday. Nice six point gap between us and the chasers and we have a bunch of winnable games

Agreed. Liverpool depending on results of other teams to get to the top is not my point here. My point here is that instead of thinking about just top-4, the reds should think about the title, and that they have a good chance of winning it.
Overcoming an 11 pts deficit in 11 games would be unlikely for Man Utd- they should win the Europa League next year. About them winning the UCL... all I want to say is that it'll be very, very tough.
And yes, Norwich did play well yesterday. They deserved the win.

[Guest]

United essentially need liverpool to lose 4 more games than they themselves lose in the run in e.g. if united lose 3 out of their remaining fixtures they would need liverpool to lose 7...

Or Man United could win the Champions League and Liverpool would miss out if they finish fourth. The last time that could happen. From 2015-16 one country can have five teams in it.

Wouldn't be surprised if they pulled that of just to spite us! Not beyond the realms that we finish higher than 4th though and then that wouldn't be our problem.

You're thinking 3rd, I'm saying they should have a go at the title. I mean 4 pts isn't a big enough gap for Chelsea to be comfortable.
And things can change very quickly in the PL. All liverpool need are slip-ups from the teams above them, which is quite possible.
So, the title race is still a 4-horse race IMO
oops! 3.5 horse race. There is also 'the little one'   

We're in the position where we can actually do something about it as opposed to relying on other teams to throw a spanner in the works though. BTW big shout out to Norwich for the win yesterday. Nice six point gap between us and the chasers and we have a bunch of winnable games

Agreed. Liverpool depending on results of other teams to get to the top is not my point here. My point here is that instead of thinking about just top-4, the reds should think about the title, and that they have a good chance of winning it.
Overcoming an 11 pts deficit in 11 games would be unlikely for Man Utd- they should win the Europa League next year. About them winning the UCL... all I want to say is that it'll be very, very tough.
And yes, Norwich did play well yesterday. They deserved the win.

Doesn't that then guarantee them entry into the CL or does that come into force the season after?
As For Liverpool thinking about the title, I'd rather they ensured a top four finish as a platform to build on than dropping a last minute clanger. They say fortune favours the brave but I can imagine any number of LFC fans (and the owners) hitting the roof if we did something cataclysmically stupid and threw it all away at the death.

[J.Benson II]

How good is Daniel Sturridge?
I thought he was just a very good foward a few months ago. I was wrong. He is a top class foward.

I would struggle to think of ten fowards in the world that are currently better than him.

[Pierce Quincy]

United essentially need liverpool to lose 4 more games than they themselves lose in the run in e.g. if united lose 3 out of their remaining fixtures they would need liverpool to lose 7...

Or Man United could win the Champions League and Liverpool would miss out if they finish fourth. The last time that could happen. From 2015-16 one country can have five teams in it.

Wouldn't be surprised if they pulled that of just to spite us! Not beyond the realms that we finish higher than 4th though and then that wouldn't be our problem.

You're thinking 3rd, I'm saying they should have a go at the title. I mean 4 pts isn't a big enough gap for Chelsea to be comfortable.
And things can change very quickly in the PL. All liverpool need are slip-ups from the teams above them, which is quite possible.
So, the title race is still a 4-horse race IMO
oops! 3.5 horse race. There is also 'the little one'   

We're in the position where we can actually do something about it as opposed to relying on other teams to throw a spanner in the works though. BTW big shout out to Norwich for the win yesterday. Nice six point gap between us and the chasers and we have a bunch of winnable games

Agreed. Liverpool depending on results of other teams to get to the top is not my point here. My point here is that instead of thinking about just top-4, the reds should think about the title, and that they have a good chance of winning it.
Overcoming an 11 pts deficit in 11 games would be unlikely for Man Utd- they should win the Europa League next year. About them winning the UCL... all I want to say is that it'll be very, very tough.
And yes, Norwich did play well yesterday. They deserved the win.

Doesn't that then guarantee them entry into the CL or does that come into force the season after?
As For Liverpool thinking about the title, I'd rather they ensured a top four finish as a platform to build on than dropping a last minute clanger. They say fortune favours the brave but I can imagine any number of LFC fans (and the owners) hitting the roof if we did something cataclysmically stupid and threw it all away at the death.

"The winners of the Europa League will qualify for the following season's Champions League from the 2015-16 season." According to Daily Mail.
So they have to either finish in the top-4 or win the Champions League.

[Ent]

There will be a couple of good sides In the Europa league next year, there always are.

If we can win that we should be good enough to make top 4.

All depends on the transfers this summer.

Something I am both looking forward to and dreading.

Nice getting new players, brings a childish excitement but there is just something about seeing guys who have been there for years playing well and younger players breaking into the team. Makes it feel like your club or something.

I mean if a billionaire takes over and buys you an entire new squad you could just be watching any club in the country, if the team has no links to previous years.

[Guest]

Do CL drop outs still gain Europa League entry in 2015/16?

[Stella]

Do CL drop outs still gain Europa League entry in 2015/16?

Hopefully not. Dreadful rule.

[Guest]

Do CL drop outs still gain Europa League entry in 2015/16?

Hopefully not. Dreadful rule.

Agreed.

[mystiroakey]

How good is Daniel Sturridge?
I thought he was just a very good foward a few months ago. I was wrong. He is a top class foward.

I would struggle to think of ten fowards in the world that are currently better than him.

yep and i think Roy has to think about this when we go to the world cup..

We need to play a system that utilses him.

It isnt just luck. You can see he has real footballing skillz.. That talent has been unleashed by Rodgers.. and its great to see.

I think including sterling would really aid him.

That sterling pass to sturridge was world class as well and the speed and put away by sturridge was right out of the top draw

[Stella]

Picking Sterling to start will show some bottle by Roy.

[Guest]

Roy does have it in him though. He did select Oxlade for the Euro opener against France.

Be bold Roy, be bold.

[mystiroakey]

Yes thats right.

BE BOLD

[Stella]

Roy does have it in him though. He did select Oxlade for the Euro opener against France.

Be bold Roy, be bold.

Rooney will play, and if it's 4-3-3 then Welbeck might start. TBH, not really fussed out of Welbeck and Sterling. Welbeck for all his frustrating points can and has scored a few.

[Guest]

How good is Daniel Sturridge?
I thought he was just a very good foward a few months ago. I was wrong. He is a top class foward.

I would struggle to think of ten fowards in the world that are currently better than him.

yep and i think Roy has to think about this when we go to the world cup..

We need to play a system that utilses him.

It isnt just luck. You can see he has real footballing skillz.. That talent has been unleashed by Rodgers.. and its great to see.

I think including sterling would really aid him.

That sterling pass to sturridge was world class as well and the speed and put away by sturridge was right out of the top draw

I bet Sterling was dying to say to Gerrard, "Anything you can do..."

[mystiroakey]

a front 3 of Rooney sturridge and welbeck isnt gonna work dude..

i dont like it.

4231 all the way man

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