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Post by Notch Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:49 pm

First topic message reminder :

For continuing discussion of Ireland vs England in Round 3 of the Six Nations

Previous thread; https://www.606v2.com/t51752-england-vs-ireland

Ireland have released various players to the provinces; starting for Ulster against the Scarlets on Friday are Paddy Jackson, Luke Marshall, Darren Cave and Iain Henderson. Leinster have named Jack McGrath, Sean Cronin, Martin Moore, Mike McCarthy, Rhys Ruddock, Jordi Murphy, Eoin Reddan, Ian Madigan and Fergus McFadden in their team to face Newport-Gwent Dragons. Tommy O'Donnell and Felix Jones will feature for Munster.

There's a lot of competition, mainly for the spots on the bench and possible starts later in the tournament. Can Madigan oust Paddy Jackson? Can Jordi Murphy or Rhys Ruddock force their way in ahead of Tommy O'Donnell? Can McFadden or Simon Zebo force their way into the back three? Who will replace the injured Dan Tuohy; Iain Henderson, Mike McCarthy or Donnacha Ryan? The latter is back from injury and likely to play some part for Munster.

Dan Tuohy has been ruled out of the tournament while Keith Earls, Luke Fitzgerald and Tommy Bowe are still injured and everyone is praying Johnny Sexton doesn't pick up a knock; he's expected to be riding the pine for Racing Metro.

Any English posters want to update us on their squad?


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Post by HammerofThunor Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:35 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
HammerofThunor wrote:Has this thread decended into nonsense because it's been concluded the game will be a cake walk for the Irish?

but as you brought it up.. Banana Cake is undervalued.

and my fav breakfast cake is lemon with lemon icing.

Breakfast cake? What the chuff is that?

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Post by Chjw131 Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:42 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
HammerofThunor wrote:Has this thread decended into nonsense because it's been concluded the game will be a cake walk for the Irish?

but as you brought it up.. Banana Cake is undervalued.

and my fav breakfast cake is lemon with lemon icing.

Breakfast cake? What the chuff is that?

Cake. You're missing out.

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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:43 pm

Everything.  10% extra in some places.  99% extra in others.

I'm a perfectionist.... and as all the best ones know, it's never ever achievable.... so a perfectionist is just someone who is never happy Wink

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Post by Brendan Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:08 pm

I dont want to assume to much but if Ireland and France had a GS match would it be the first time in 5/6 nations were the bottom two one year next year finished 1st and 2nd

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Post by rodders Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:10 pm

Brendan wrote:I dont want to assume to much but if Ireland and France had a GS match would it be the first time in 5/6 nations were the bottom two one year next year finished 1st and 2nd

And according to my mathematical understanding of fly's assessment we may well achieve it by playing at 1% capacity in some areas! ....  Cool 
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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:29 pm

That's how good we are and how much better we could become Rodders...that 1% offering that still wins us matches. Wink

Afterall, we were still scoring tries for fun sometimes in Kidney's days even as we played a 0% gameplan!

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Post by Notch Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:57 pm

My understanding is that breakfast cake is basically having cake for breakfast, which despite what you might think is in no way at odds with being a functional, responsible adult.
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Post by GloriousEmpire Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:00 pm

There's generally less sugar and way less salt in cake than in an average breakfast cereal.

http://fatburningman.com/never-feed-children-breakfast-cereal/

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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:03 pm

It's dangerous though.  Cake is a dangerous topic and should be handled carefully if you want to keep your head on your shoulders.

Marie Antoinette: "Let them eat Breakfast Cake"

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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:32 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
HammerofThunor wrote:Has this thread decended into nonsense because it's been concluded the game will be a cake walk for the Irish?

but as you brought it up.. Banana Cake is undervalued.

and my fav breakfast cake is lemon with lemon icing.

Breakfast cake? What the chuff is that?

its cake formed like a loaf not a circle and sliced. or its a muffin

its a nice breakfast to have occasionally with a cappuccino.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:35 pm

Notch wrote:My understanding is that breakfast cake is basically having cake for breakfast, which despite what you might think is in no way at odds with being a functional, responsible adult.

come on you must have occasionally had a muffin for brekkie

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Post by GloriousEmpire Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:42 pm

There's also less caffeine in beer than coffee. So there you have it, cake and beer is the corner stone of health

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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:44 pm

coffee is nice though.


TBH i would find it easier to give up beer.

I am completely addicted . So basically yeah Beer is better- It must be

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Post by Chjw131 Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:46 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:There's generally less sugar and way less salt in cake than in an average breakfast cereal.

http://fatburningman.com/never-feed-children-breakfast-cereal/

I'd never put faith in article that makes use of that much bold text.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:47 pm

There's a guy who lives outside my tesco who concurs.

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Post by Notch Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:52 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
Notch wrote:My understanding is that breakfast cake is basically having cake for breakfast, which despite what you might think is in no way at odds with being a functional, responsible adult.

come on you must have occasionally had a muffin for brekkie

I've been more more indulgent and unhealthy than that  Laugh :rem:

Blueberry pancakes? With maple syrup? And crispy bacon?

Yeah, not the best in terms of the old sugar/calories etc. But breakfast cake is a funny turn of phrase. It makes me think of a man waking up, wiping the sleep from his eyes and sticking into an entire birthday cake... hmm. Gotta go, making a run to Tescos before tomorrow I think...
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Post by Chjw131 Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:57 pm

Bearing in mind we've already filled one thread nearly two weeks before KO, a record; is this now a thread with the most off-topic content ever?

I think so. And as such I'm going to have a piece of cake to celebrate.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:01 pm

yeah I remember once being stoned in new york and having waffles, cream strawberrys, blueberrys, eggs , bacon sausage and  biscuits(that are actually more like our scones and not biscuits)

But it still probably had less grease than this cafe I once went to once in penge...

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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:05 pm

Chjw131 wrote:Bearing in mind we've already filled one thread nearly two weeks before KO, a record; is this now a thread with the most off-topic content ever?

I think so. And as such I'm going to have a piece of cake to celebrate.

I'm not so sure about that Chjw. I laughed when I returned to this site after a little time away over the Christmas and New Year to be greeted by a guy welcoming me back as (I paraphrase) "The king of going off topic" - and I think he was English and I'm not so sure I've ever chatted to him much. But I'm almost certain he must have frequented quite a few Irish context threads to be able to say that to me!!! I think we often drift away from topic quite often on those things.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:06 pm

Yes SF you certainly are one of a few kings of off topic. I am also one myself...

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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:10 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Yes SF you certainly are one of a few kings of off topic. I am also one myself...

Yeah, there are quite a few of us. I've always liked dirt-tracks and roads most people would never go up. Landed me in a few iffy situations mind you - real time! But yep, off the beaten track is my natural persuasion. Cool 

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Post by Metal Tiger Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:11 pm

Chjw131 wrote:Bearing in mind we've already filled one thread nearly two weeks before KO, a record; is this now a thread with the most off-topic content ever?

I think so. And as such I'm going to have a piece of cake to celebrate.

There's nothing wrong with going off topic. I have to say it always bring a smile on my face when it happens, especially in a thread as enjoyable to read as this. I may have helped it wander off on occasions with the strategic mention of food.

Still... this has precedence on this forum. I think it may have been on the old 606 but we completely got lost in the woods talking about Celtic immigration patterns across europe in ancient history on one thread. Enormously interesting at the time and the general consensus was how much we all had in commen... unfortunately that one got overrun with trolls desperate to prove instead how different we all were. Sad really.

Anywho... back to the rugby.

At Tigers ground they do an awesome roast pork cob in the ABC bar  Very Happy
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Post by Metal Tiger Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:14 pm

Only 668 posts until part 3!
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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:32 pm

Yeah I remember the Haplogroup debate!

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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:34 pm

Metal Tiger wrote:Only 668 posts until part 3!

We ain't going to make it.  A few raw insults would get the natives singing long hymns of hate at each other.  But my heart ain't in it.

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Post by sickofwendy Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:42 pm

666 devil 

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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:44 pm

That's all we need - the Anti-Christ showing up (on time too!!!) to add his ten cents worth.

Okay - give it to us.  Which side are you going to give the evil eye to at the weekend?

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Post by Notch Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:18 pm

I've been on forums where the moderators are incredibly anal about posts going off topic, but I'd much, much rather have a thread that is cheerfully off topic where everyone is being nice to each other than an on-topic thread where people are being horrible and abrasive.
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Post by Breadvan Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:25 pm

Wait till after the game Notch....plenty o time yet lol. Nah, this has been a great thread(s).
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Post by Notch Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:27 pm

Aye, look, there was always was a bit of needle for me in the England games... lets just say when I was growing up they were the team I loved us to beat. So threads like this are brilliant, really, because they remind you that there's much more you have in common than not so don't get too worked up by the whole thing. It's always better when its friendlier.

I don't always live up to that, so its good to get the odd reminder.
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Post by Metal Tiger Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:28 pm

SecretFly wrote:That's all we need - the Anti-Christ showing up (on time too!!!)  to add his ten cents worth.

Okay - give it to us.  Which side are you going to give the evil eye to at the weekend?

The  ghost  has already visited us.
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Post by Metal Tiger Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:39 pm

Notch wrote:Aye, look, there was always was a bit of needle for me in the England games... lets just say when I was growing up they were the team I loved us to beat. So threads like this are brilliant, really, because they remind you that there's much more you have in common than not so don't get too worked up by the whole thing. It's always better when its friendlier.

I don't always live up to that, so its good to get the odd reminder.

I always loved to beat the French... ho hum.
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Post by Feckless Rogue Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:58 pm

Who would you have a better chance of beating in a fight

One Cian Healy sized Peter Stringer
Or two Peter Stringer sized Cian Healy's?
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Post by ME-109 Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:09 pm

I know this is irrelevant to the baking thread but it is clear that Fat Billy has been at the pies and given his excellent ball carrying in the last two games is the main problem for Ireland. Stop Billy (give him a pie?) and we will win...simples

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Post by Chjw131 Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:11 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Chjw131 wrote:Bearing in mind we've already filled one thread nearly two weeks before KO, a record; is this now a thread with the most off-topic content ever?

I think so. And as such I'm going to have a piece of cake to celebrate.

I'm not so sure about that Chjw.  I laughed when I returned to this site after a little time away over the Christmas and New Year to be greeted by a guy welcoming me back as (I paraphrase) "The king of going off topic"  - and I think he was English and I'm not so sure I've ever chatted to him much.  But I'm almost certain he must have frequented quite a few Irish context threads to be able to say that to me!!!  I think we often drift away from topic quite often on those things.

Like it, adds a bit of variety and banter to the technical stuff. Surprising and encouraging how genial this forum has remained not like the old 606 for sure.

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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:13 pm

If Billy doesn't have a ball his computer malfunctions and he self-destructs. So Care should have the target on him. He's the gearbox.

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Post by Pot Hale Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:16 pm

Quick General trivia quiz:

Who has the best tries to caps ratio on each team on Saturday?

Who's gone the longest since scoring an International try?

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Post by Chjw131 Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:17 pm

SecretFly wrote:If Billy doesn't have a ball his computer malfunctions and he self-destructs.  So Care should have the target on him.  He's the gearbox.

I feel a motoring theme coming on. Care the gearbox Farrell the crankshaft? Pack the pistons.

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Post by Chjw131 Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:18 pm

Pot Hale wrote:Quick General trivia quiz:

Who has the best tries to caps ratio on each team on Saturday?

Who's gone the longest since scoring an International try?


Burrell and I would've said Ashton but are we including forwards? If so POC?

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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:22 pm

Chjw131 wrote:
SecretFly wrote:If Billy doesn't have a ball his computer malfunctions and he self-destructs.  So Care should have the target on him.  He's the gearbox.

I feel a motoring theme coming on. Care the gearbox Farrell the crankshaft? Pack the pistons.

Billy the spare tyre? Sorry Billy, don't remember that when next I see you.

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Post by Chjw131 Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:24 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Chjw131 wrote:
SecretFly wrote:If Billy doesn't have a ball his computer malfunctions and he self-destructs.  So Care should have the target on him.  He's the gearbox.

I feel a motoring theme coming on. Care the gearbox Farrell the crankshaft? Pack the pistons.

Billy the spare tyre?  Sorry Billy, don't remember that when next I see you.

Best have some cake with you just in case. Dickson the catalytic converter always restricting the game!

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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:26 pm

Cole, the Alternator - they're usually one of the first things to go.

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Post by Chjw131 Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:29 pm

SecretFly wrote:Cole, the Alternator - they're usually one of the first things to go.

Doesn't get wound up enough. Hartley? Although they don't have teeth.

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Post by doctor_grey Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:43 pm

SecretFly wrote:That's all we need - the Anti-Christ showing up (on time too!!!)  to add his ten cents worth.

Okay - give it to us.  Which side are you going to give the evil eye to at the weekend?
Just had a thought.
I don't think the real antichrist could handle this match.  For England I would face him down with Dylan hartley.  Dylan could beat the snot out of him (her?) without breaking a sweat.  For Ireland, POC would stare at him with that Ivan Drago look which implies impending doom.  Stupid bastaard wouldn't stand a chance against either bloke.

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Post by Mickado Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:34 am

Pot Hale wrote:Quick General trivia quiz:

Who has the best tries to caps ratio on each team on Saturday?

Who's gone the longest since scoring an International try?


Funny question, Mike Ross has never scored an international try so does that count? It's been 7 years since POC got his last one so maybe him, can't think of any England players that have been knocking around that long.


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Post by rodders Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:48 am

Mickado wrote:
Pot Hale wrote:Quick General trivia quiz:

Who has the best tries to caps ratio on each team on Saturday?

Who's gone the longest since scoring an International try?


Funny question, Mike Ross has never scored an international try so does that count? It's been 7 years since POC got his last one so maybe him, can't think of any England players that have been knocking around that long.


Mike Brown or Dave Kearney for the first one and O'Connell on the second?
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:32 am

Brown has a woeful tries to caps ratio despite scoring in his last 2 games..he only had 1 previously.

Best tries to caps will surely be burrell at 100%

Longest without ... Lawes?

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Post by geoff999rugby Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:17 am

I think McCathy is in the 23 for Leinster so either Henderson or Ryan on the bench

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Post by mystiroakey Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:29 am

Tries to caps. What the heck does that stat matter anyway?

brown has been England's best performer since his re introduction.,

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Post by Mickado Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:11 pm

geoff999rugby wrote:I think McCathy is in the 23 for Leinster so either Henderson or Ryan on the bench

Yep, similarly Madigan is benching for us, so Jackson will be benching for Ireland, and Boss will probably be doing the same. No great shock, but it's something we can infer from the Leinster selection.

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