England vs Ireland, Part 2

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For continuing discussion of Ireland vs England in Round 3 of the Six Nations

Previous thread; https://www.606v2.com/t51752-england-vs-ireland

Ireland have released various players to the provinces; starting for Ulster against the Scarlets on Friday are Paddy Jackson, Luke Marshall, Darren Cave and Iain Henderson. Leinster have named Jack McGrath, Sean Cronin, Martin Moore, Mike McCarthy, Rhys Ruddock, Jordi Murphy, Eoin Reddan, Ian Madigan and Fergus McFadden in their team to face Newport-Gwent Dragons. Tommy O'Donnell and Felix Jones will feature for Munster.

There's a lot of competition, mainly for the spots on the bench and possible starts later in the tournament. Can Madigan oust Paddy Jackson? Can Jordi Murphy or Rhys Ruddock force their way in ahead of Tommy O'Donnell? Can McFadden or Simon Zebo force their way into the back three? Who will replace the injured Dan Tuohy; Iain Henderson, Mike McCarthy or Donnacha Ryan? The latter is back from injury and likely to play some part for Munster.

Dan Tuohy has been ruled out of the tournament while Keith Earls, Luke Fitzgerald and Tommy Bowe are still injured and everyone is praying Johnny Sexton doesn't pick up a knock; he's expected to be riding the pine for Racing Metro.

Any English posters want to update us on their squad?

maestegmafia wrote:I imagine Ireland's tails will be up after Wales pasted France...

This championship is surely yours to win or lose

What does the Wales result have to do with anything?

England have been very, very good aside from the first half hour against France. Ireland too but beating an in-form team away from home is a tough ask. Certainly a different kettle of fish to beating two poor teams at home (ok, Wales aren't a poor team, but they have been well below their best so far, including tonight imo)

I think it mioght put a bit more pressure on us, as we are now the only team to do the slam.
 
Also there is a small matter of a triple crown up for grabs today.
 
Our confidence will certainly be high today,(as will Englands) 2 good wins so far, no tries conceded.
 
Even if we do lose, then 4 teams will have 4 points, so the championship will be wiide open.
 
An Irish win then, would like to think we would beat Italy at home, then onto Paris for the big one.
 
BUT one game at a time. Lets focus on England.
I think Ireland will leave Twickenham breathing a sigh of relief, after winning a close hard fought match.

Wi11 wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:I imagine Ireland's tails will be up after Wales pasted France...

This championship is surely yours to win or lose

What does the Wales result have to do with anything?

England have been very, very good aside from the first half hour against France. Ireland too but beating an in-form team away from home is a tough ask. Certainly a different kettle of fish to beating two poor teams at home (ok, Wales aren't a poor team, but they have been well below their best so far, including tonight imo)

Wales beating France means Ireland are the only team able to win a Grandslam. I think that would add a little excitement to the occasion if I were an Irish player.

England havent been very very good at all, they lost to the French when in the lead and beat probably the worst Scottish effort since Matt Williams was Scot Coach.

Today is a massive test for England. Ireland are a very good team with experience, first choice players and they are playing an England team with some key injuries, and not many caps as a collective.

GunsGerms wrote:According to the RTE panel we are being love bombed by England. I agree it is annoying and smart from Lancaster because it gives us no extra motivation which traditionally we have always had v England. Swines.

Retaliate GG! Germ warfare is a possibility.

Meanwhile England are blooding new players and building their talent pool - providential in adversity and misfortune.

I believe!

maestegmafia wrote:

Wi11 wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:I imagine Ireland's tails will be up after Wales pasted France...

This championship is surely yours to win or lose

What does the Wales result have to do with anything?

England have been very, very good aside from the first half hour against France. Ireland too but beating an in-form team away from home is a tough ask. Certainly a different kettle of fish to beating two poor teams at home (ok, Wales aren't a poor team, but they have been well below their best so far, including tonight imo)

Wales beating France means Ireland are the only team able to win a Grandslam. I think that would add a little excitement to the occasion if I were an Irish player.

England havent been very very good at all, they lost to the French when in the lead and beat probably the worst Scottish effort since Matt Williams was Scot Coach.

Today is a massive test for England. Ireland are a very good team with experience, first choice players and they are playing an England team with some key injuries, and not many caps as a collective.

I agree, an Wales showed just how average this French team is as well. I think today's game and the Wales one will show where we are.

Heroically I am making my way to London from deepest darkest Dumfriesshire having contracted the NZ bug... But as with the great BOD I have shrugged it off and am looking forward to my first taste of HQ on 6N day... Here we go lads! Enjoy all who are going to the match and Éire Abú!

Heroically I am making my way to London from deepest darkest Dumfriesshire having contracted the NZ bug... But as with the great BOD I have shrugged it off and am looking forward to my first taste of HQ on 6N day... Here we go lads! Enjoy all who are going to the match and Éire Abú!

Now that was Unreal,

Can England/Ireland match that!!

Time to munch some beta blockers

Good afternoon All!

I suspect there's some nervous and excited fans about. I hope this match is huge.

Afternoon ..

Great day of sport so far.

Everton v  chelsea.. classic footy match witha  late winner
Italy v Scotland- Classic rugby v matched sides and a late winner
England v Ireland- to come
Palace v United- to come..

Afternoon Cari, you must be happy about last nights excellent win over France

Nervous as hell here, really want Ireland to beat England but I just don't think that we ill win at HQ. Too close between the teams and home ground advantage will be the deciding factor I feel.

How long before a pundit mentions a grand slam...? Oh , Inverdale just said it...about 25 seconds into the programme...

Very nervous! I'm now at the point where I think England will do very well to win against a strong Irish side determined to make sure POC and BOD win their last 6Ns encounter against an injury ravaged England. Not impossible, but...

All right Nachos!  I am indeed.  We badly needed to beat France and the fact it was a big win is a bonus.  However, it does mean that England should do us a favour, but then that means Ireland would have to lose...I don't really want Ireland to lose this...

Can I just mention an absent friend?  Tommy Bowe is 30 today and it's a shame he's injured.  Hopefully, his pals will do him proud on his birthday

Yes, going to be tough but certainly not impossible.

C'MON ENGLAND!!!!!

This is it boys - Cmon Ireland!!

It was a confidence boosting win for Wales Cari, a nice 6-3 win for England would do for you

Tommy is a big miss but the other lads have stood up to be counted.

I am just interested in what tactics JS deploys, I have a feeling that they may target Nowell on the wing with big kicks.

Well, two weeks ago everyone was saying that the Irish-Welsh game was too tough to call and I think we all expected a close score...so you never know...!

im worried...

England have the lowest tackle completion rate of all teams so far. Not just Ashton then

Is D'Arcy's beard getting bigger...?!  

Massive compliment from POC to JS. POC always speaks his mind and its clear that JS has the respect of the team.

Cari wrote:Is D'Arcy's beard getting bigger...?!  

It's a thing of beauty.

What a guy O'Connell is. Top block (from someone who's never met him and only seen him in little video clips but still)

It's an impressive growth all right, but I fear Gordon will become like Captain Caveman soon...just hair with arms and legs.

Umm... BBC? Why the homoerotic montage of England players changing?

Why has inverdale got his shirt open?

He should be made to wear a tie!

Dan Cole is a massive loss for England. One of the English players I fear the most. Marler and Wilson have a job to do.

IanBru wrote:Umm... BBC? Why the homoerotic montage of England players changing?

why not.

do you think there is a problem with that?

seriously should BBC never even mention England?

The world has gone mad.

IanBru wrote:Umm... BBC? Why the homoerotic montage of England players changing?

That little montage was a bit random wasn't it?...a bit of filler instead of adverts.   It's not that it was English, just really random and nothing...

Swing Low sweet chariot


#carrythemhome

What's all that about?

Cari wrote:

IanBru wrote:Umm... BBC? Why the homoerotic montage of England players changing?

That little montage was a bit random wasn't it?...a bit of filler instead of adverts.   

  

I am losing grasp on reality with all this shock from a build up from a game at twickers. WHAT has happened to the world

Lawes has really matured as a player, not the penalty and card machine he once was. Now a real force for England.

Scrumpy wrote:Swing Low sweet chariot


#carrythemhome

What's all that about?

Encouraging the English fans to make Twickenham a fortress...not unlike the Welsh campaign to get their fans to "make some noise for the boys" by singing Calon Lan.

I fancy Ireland to win, we really could be 1 and 3 going into the Italy game, that's a scary prospect!

Twickenham will be a Paddy field today. Not a fortress. You play with matches you get burned.

As always, a great atmosphere at HQ.

D'Arcy's turning into Perkin from The Flumps...

http://www.thechestnut.com/flumps/ep2-03.jpg

GunsGerms wrote:Twickenham will be a Paddy field today. Not a fortress. You play with matches you get burned.

Maybe the fans will have to #carrythemhome after the game!  

Good luck to both teams. Going for a narrow Ireland win but either way this one has some delicious ingredients...!  

GunsGerms wrote:Twickenham will be a Paddy field today. Not a fortress. You play with matches you get burned.

with the experiance Ireland have out there, i'd be gobsmacked if they dont win.

Whether seems decent, 2nd best pitch in the 6N, should be good.

Good luck Ireland, hope both play their to their best (and England are better)

oh god, why do we have these awful singers?

You cant get burnt in a paddy field. Its wet.. work on your euphemisms..

Good of Mr Benn to offer his dulcet tones to Ireland's anthem.

What a horrible song!! Worst anthem?

You know I'd rather listen to the fans singing their anthems instead of the celebrity karaoke...

good start by england.

Uhm - can you choke tackle from a received restart??

What a scrum for Ireland