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Post by Geordie Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:45 pm

First topic message reminder :

You beauties...

What a crackin game....

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Post by munkian Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:21 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
munkian wrote:Wow, that escalated quickly...

Isn't the Irish 'look'  more dark haired with blue eyes ala Donnacha O Callaghan ? Though his eyes are rather far apart... I think if you merged him with Sexton it would balance the pair out some

Do English people have eyes on the side of their head or something?

Its where their heads are thats the problem  Wink 
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Post by Submachine Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:22 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
munkian wrote:Wow, that escalated quickly...

Isn't the Irish 'look'  more dark haired with blue eyes ala Donnacha O Callaghan ? Though his eyes are rather far apart... I think if you merged him with Sexton it would balance the pair out some

Do English people have eyes on the side of their head or something?

Some French folk have them at the end of their fingers.

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Post by SecretFly Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:23 pm

GunsGerms wrote:

Do English people have eyes on the side of their head or something?

No, they carry them in a Louis Vuitton bag.

Anyway, as I've outlined.  Don't blame English people for Super-Not-Scot.  He's a Scot - not.  But do bring his 'surprise' appearance up of course with that lurking Englishman Mysti. Wink

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:45 pm

I dont know where to start lads.

But I love you all.

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Post by nobbled Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:56 pm

Really looking forward to "who do you think you are" program when Harry goes on it....

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Post by munkian Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:57 pm

nobbled wrote:Really looking forward to "who do you think you are" program when Harry goes on it....


Andrew Coombes ?
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Post by SecretFly Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:08 pm

nobbled wrote:Really looking forward to "who do you think you are" program when Harry goes on it....


'Can't believe my ancestor did that!!!???   Let me read that again to be sure: *staged onion-in-the-pocket tears of shock*  "And then he did ye cut off one's other head of another of his Here ye missises for she hatheth done him wrong by being his missis in yonder first place"

Shocking revelation.  Who would have ever known that! - Please - could we...................... could we just turn off the cameras for a.... Sad '

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Post by Sin é Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:54 pm

nobbled wrote:Really looking forward to "who do you think you are" program when Harry goes on it....


His grandmother (Diana's mother) was a Burke-Roche from Cork (Barony of Fermoy). So basically, using the granny rule, he is a Munsterman.


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Post by munkian Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:59 pm

Sin é wrote:
nobbled wrote:Really looking forward to "who do you think you are" program when Harry goes on it....


His grandmother (Diana's mother) was a Burke-Roche from Cork (Barony of Fermoy). So basically, using the granny rule, he is a Munsterman.




He certainly has the God given sense of entitlement of one....  Wink 
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Post by rodders Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:04 pm

So the ginger pigments could have come from either side then.
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Post by SecretFly Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:16 pm

rodders wrote:So the ginger pigments could have come from either side then.

Yes. No wonder he's the most popular Royal. He has two drops of Irish blood in him - he's charmin' the socks off them.

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Post by gregortree Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:25 pm

SecretFly wrote:
rodders wrote:So the ginger pigments could have come from either side then.

Yes.  No wonder he's the most popular Royal.  He has two drops of Irish blood in him - he's charmin' the socks off them.  

I notice he seems to have the charm of the Irish with the girls. They line up for him so they do.

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Post by rodders Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:28 pm

I bet he keeps his hands in his pockets when his granny is in the room.
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Post by SecretFly Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:30 pm

rodders wrote:I bet he keeps his hands in his pockets when his granny is in the room.

All Gingers are so sworn to do so. It's ancient Munster tribal rites. Too complex to explain here.

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Post by Biltong Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:24 pm

Gents, I have just cleaned up this thread, xenophobia is not tolerated on this forum, even when said in jest, it is simply not acceptable.

If you want to discuss traits of certain nations or races, then do so in the privacy of your own homes.
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Post by Cyril Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:59 pm

biltong, you've left in comments about gingers.

They're people too.

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Post by tazfalklands Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:18 pm

gregortree wrote:The Duke is too dead to play even for Ireland and Bracken was previously tainted with the white shirt. Otherwise they are very well qualified.

It might be worth while bring the Duke of Wellies back for a one off special. He had a really good plan for beating the French!!!!!!!!

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Post by SecretFly Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:46 pm

Hmmm - strange that the dreaded red pen warning only arrived three days after a game that had no red pens or bans in the two weeks leading into the game - and that it was prompted by a Golfing aficionado who was coaxed here to cause fuss.

Guess he caused it if a red pen warning showed up.  

Sad that the thread was tarnished that way - I think the stuff/fuss was being handled well within the structure of all responses from all posters.

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Post by Cyril Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:56 pm

I saw the words 'tarquin' and 'potato' mentioned.

It all seemed in fairly good humour though.

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Post by quinsforever Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:05 pm

Biltong wrote:Gents, I have just cleaned up this thread, xenophobia is not tolerated on this forum, even when said in jest, it is simply not acceptable.

If you want to discuss traits of certain nations or races, then do so in the privacy of your own homes.
was way last week in canada and i thought this whole thread was awesome in the week leading up to the match and following it.

i blame any banter recently on the complete and utter boredom of the england v wales thread. jeez. i'd rather watch pain dry in a steam room than spend any more time on that thread. The welsh have completely declined to engage.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:10 am

Cyril wrote:biltong, you've left in comments about gingers.

They're people too.

Yeh, but they don't have souls...

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Post by GunsGerms Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:45 am

Biltong wrote:Gents, I have just cleaned up this thread, xenophobia is not tolerated on this forum, even when said in jest, it is simply not acceptable.

If you want to discuss traits of certain nations or races, then do so in the privacy of your own homes.

Shame you arent a moderator on the golf forums too Biltong.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:49 am

Guns why do you take so much false offence- I didnt even start the pootato talk- yet i got blasted for it- after just continuing on from someone suggesting to become an Irishman you must first eat a pound of spuds

I mentioned the sensitivity of posters on this forum in shock to some others on a golf forum and that was that.

Bilt doesn't want to over mod- this place was fine- Did anyone see me take offence to the tarquin nonsense.. Did anyone have a pop at that poster!!


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Post by GunsGerms Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:49 am

Cyril wrote:I saw the words 'tarquin' and 'potato' mentioned.

It all seemed in fairly good humour though.

Basically Mystiroakey thought it would be great fun to invite one of his friends who is a known hibernophobe from the golf forums who has no interest in rugby to come along and stir sh1t on Irish rugby threads and make xenaphobic comments. Thats when it all went downhill.

Classy guy Mystiroakey. Well done.


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Post by GunsGerms Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:50 am

mystiroakey wrote:Guns why do you take so much false offence- I didnt even start the pootato talk- yet i got blasted for it- after just continuing on from someone suggesting to become an Irishman you must first eat a pound of spuds

I mentioned the sensitivity of posters on this forum in shock to some others on a golf forum and that was that.

Bilt doesn't want to over mod- this place was fine- Did anyone see me take offence to the tarquin nonsense.. Did anyone have a pop at that poster!!

You knew exactly what you were doing. Classy guy.

Are you such as sheep that you have to borrow retorts from your friend super?


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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:51 am

read my post - you really are becoming a bore mate.

Do you want me to take offence from the tarquin nosense. I am not going to lower myself to your twaddle..

Just grow some skin will ya.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:53 am

what retorts.

I have no problem with the irish!

or are you suggesting i do?

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Post by GunsGerms Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:54 am

mystiroakey wrote:read my post - you really are becoming a bore mate.

Do you want me to take offence from the tarquin nosense. I am not going to lower myself to your twaddle..

Just grow some skin will ya.

Its your perogerative as to what offends you. I actually dont know what tarquin means I must admit and furthermore Im not offended by any comments on this thread at all.

However, your intentions are really shabby pal and I have no problem calling you out on it.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:56 am

GunsGerms wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:read my post - you really are becoming a bore mate.

Do you want me to take offence from the tarquin nosense. I am not going to lower myself to your twaddle..

Just grow some skin will ya.

Its your perogerative as to what offends you. I actually dont know what tarquin means I must admit and furthermore Im not offended by any comments on this thread at all.

However, your intentions are really shabby pal and I have no problem calling you out on it.
what intentions,
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because some idiots take offence at potato talk.. and i mention that on another forum. I didnt expect him to come on here- we are not best mates or anything.

I was blasted before sr came on here mate,. That is why i mentioned it there.

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Post by GunsGerms Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:57 am

You are so full of sh1t it defies belief.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:57 am

explain yourself?

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Post by rodders Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:58 am

Irish soil is extremely fertile and produces some excellent potatos, this is not something to mock or take offense at - glens of antrim grown potatoes I would recommend highly and hope the Irish team do indeed eat a healthy amount of these.

In truth though, I do have to admit that the potatoes grown in Spain are vastly superior or Irish ones.
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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:59 am

Come on mate- Jersey spuds are the best!!

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Post by rodders Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:02 am

Good shout.

Irish spuds are overrated I'm afraid, although Tayto crisp aren't.
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Post by quinsforever Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:03 am

GunsGerms wrote:You are so full of sh1t it defies belief.
calm down

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Post by GunsGerms Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:04 am

mystiroakey wrote:explain yourself?

I read your comments on the golf board. You knew well the first thing SR would do would come over and derail the thread with his usual nonsense. You invited him!!

We both know what he is like. Admit it you thought it would be a real laugh.

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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:06 am

Southern Tayto!!!

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Post by nobbled Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:07 am

Sorry to go off topic - this isn't about spuds - what happened to Sexton?
His kicking out of hand against Wales was scarily accurate. His long kicks always found a good touch and his kicks put up to be chased were beautifully weighted. Against England they were pretty random. Too short for decent position and too long for a proper chase.

Was it just a bad day at the office? It happens to everyone I guess.

Was he under greater pressure to get the kicks away (I'd like to think so, but I don't think he was)?

I reckon that if he'd been as on song as he was against Wales, England would have lost.


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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:08 am

no in all honesty the only reason i mentioned it was because if you notice the post he made just previously to the one i made he actually decided to mention the irish and potatoes as a joke to our fellow poster incont(who is also irish but he can deal with it and dsoiesnt take offence)

so as it was so topical- my comment was pretty off the cuff and it had no real intentions behind it...

but SORRY if it caused an issue.

shall we leave it know because I have no issue with anyone on here.. I dont want to escalate anything. Its been good fun on the whole..

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Post by rodders Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:08 am

SecretFly wrote:Southern Tayto!!!

Yea I have to concede that - definitely superior, same with cadbury's chocolate and guinness. Its an anti Ulster conspiracy as usual.
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Post by GunsGerms Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:09 am

Perhaps he felt more pressure playing away from home. He can be pretty inconsistant anyway. He also has a thumb injury. Not sure that that would have had any effect though.

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Post by westisbest Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:11 am

Ha Ha, mysti is a good guy, dont have a problem with him.

You must have known though mysti SR would have come on here.

Any excuse for him to have a pop at us Irish.

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Post by Scrumpy Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:12 am

So why did POM have a shocker at HQ?

I was expecting a lot more from him.
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Post by GunsGerms Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:12 am

mystiroakey wrote:no in all honesty the only reason i mentioned it was because if you notice the post he made just previously to the one i made he actually decided to mention the irish and potatoes as a joke to our fellow poster incont(who is also irish but he can deal with it and dsoiesnt take offence)

so as it was so topical- my comment was pretty off the cuff and it had no real intentions behind it...

but SORRY if it caused an issue.

shall we leave it know because I have no issue with anyone on here.. I dont want to escalate anything. Its been good fun on the whole..

Im not offended by your comments. Just annoyed you invited Super on the thread because he is an obvious hibernophobe and self confessed bigot. He doesnt like rugby and he doesnt like Irish people so it was a odd move.

I have no issue with you at all otherwise to be honest. Enjoy your banter.

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Post by rodders Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:14 am

nobbled wrote:Sorry to go off topic - this isn't about spuds - what happened to Sexton?
His kicking out of hand against Wales was scarily accurate. His long kicks always found a good touch and his kicks put up to be chased were beautifully weighted. Against England they were pretty random. Too short for decent position and too long for a proper chase.

Was it just a bad day at the office? It happens to everyone I guess.

Was he under greater pressure to get the kicks away (I'd like to think so, but I don't think he was)?

I reckon that if he'd been as on song as he was against Wales, England would have lost.



Off topic!

Yeah I agree, he didn't execute as well as in the previous two games but then this game was played at a much higher pace and intensity than the others.

I thought he was ok but both he and Murray were too long with their kicks - I thought we'd have targeted Newell and May more but everything seemed to go to Brown and didn't give the chasers enough chance to challenge.
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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:15 am

Thank you westie..

Tbh i really didn't think. I told him to check it out. If he wants to start his usual irish or infact any Celtic derogatary talk(normally in humour i will add). That is his own grave..

Not mine..

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Post by SecretFly Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:16 am

nobbled wrote:Sorry to go off topic - this isn't about spuds - what happened to Sexton?
His kicking out of hand against Wales was scarily accurate. His long kicks always found a good touch and his kicks put up to be chased were beautifully weighted. Against England they were pretty random. Too short for decent position and too long for a proper chase.

Was it just a bad day at the office? It happens to everyone I guess.

Was he under greater pressure to get the kicks away (I'd like to think so, but I don't think he was)?

I reckon that if he'd been as on song as he was against Wales, England would have lost.



Gameplans colliding with each other I'd reckon.  England were always going to be a different kettle of fish to Wales for two or three reasons.  1 - was that they were at home and they have a good record there. 2 - they're a very good team - the most complete looking one in this competition. 3 - they had their forewarning about what kind of form Ireland were in this year - so they could plan how to tackle it.

Schmidt is familiar with a good number of players and less so with others who he trying to get up to speed on his plans and strategies.  There were a number of things tried against England that didn't come off because of that 'beginningness' of Ireland right now.  Lancaster has had two years, Schmidt is in his forst months.  Confusion in the ranks at times.  But also - Sexton did look like he was affected by a knock for most of the second half.  He looked a tad out-of-it.

Anyway, for all that - 3 points down at Twickenham with lots to work on isn't a bad result.


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Post by mystiroakey Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:18 am

well Sexton still made the kick of the game- that just wasnt finished off. Great cross field kick...

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Post by nobbled Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:33 am

mystiroakey wrote:well Sexton still made the kick of the game- that just wasnt finished off. Great cross field kick...

Yes - please don't think I'm knocking Sexton - it was just the difference between the two games was quite stark.

Close marginal stuff all over.

Was the most tense England game I've seen in a long time. Good, competitive, clean (okay Farrell was a twonk - largely clean then) blistering pace and great intensity.

I am delighted we scraped through. I just hope we can steal enough of Ireland's playbook to turn over Wales!
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Post by GunsGerms Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:36 am

I think he derseves a bit of a knocking. Great player but just seems to lose the plot a little sometimes.

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