England or Wales... who'll be victorious.

Simple really, one team could still win this years tournament, the other will play the last weekend for pride...

So who will be victorious on Sunday...

England. They're the favourites and with the new found atmosphere at Twickers and after last year, they will be keen to put in a performance. The only thing that might work in Wales' favour is there is less pressure on us, as we aren't in for the Triple Crown and so the pressure of playing for a prize might place more pressure on England (probably won't though).

Where's the option that says "Roger Lewis"?

It doesn't matter if England or Wales win... Lewis will be getting a sack full of money that the regions will never see.

The Bookies.

anyone seen a weather forecast?

What a great idea for a poll

Poll above = same as Ladbrokes 2:1

[quote="Risca Rev"]England. They're the favourites and with the new found atmosphere at Twickers /quote]

Thanks to that atmosphere we literally wont here the end of it whichever side win

Ok im going for an England victory.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

Risca Rev wrote:England. They're the favourites and with the new found atmosphere at Twickers /quote]

Thanks to that atmosphere we literally wont here the end of it whichever side win

Moral being: don't close your eyes when watching rugby. It's a multi-sensory event.

I've gone for wales, clear favourites IMO, they have more leaders on the pitch, they have a superior game plan invented by the games great master, lord Gatland.

Eng 10 wales 56

As a neutral this is tough to pick which makes it a compelling encounter. I'm hoping as a neutral the balance of the game is similar to Eng Ire rather than Eng Wales last year.

May the better team win and the ref not to feature as the controller of the outcome. Moral victories take up too many pages to explain.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

Risca Rev wrote:England. They're the favourites and with the new found atmosphere at Twickers /quote]

Thanks to that atmosphere we literally wont here hear the end of it whichever side win

(fixed it for you)

If England win it will go very quiet on here. Half the posters will just vanish.
Unless of course the ball boy or the ref do something really stupid on the way to England's win, in which case the cacophony on here will be deafening.

That week after the Ireland/Wales game was the quietest, most good-natured week that 606v2 has seen.

More than between Christmas and New Year?   

gregortree wrote:

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

Risca Rev wrote:England. They're the favourites and with the new found atmosphere at Twickers /quote]

Thanks to that atmosphere we literally wont here hear the end of it whichever side win

(fixed it for you)

If England win it will go very quiet on here. Half the posters will just  vanish.
Unless of course the ball boy or the ref do something really stupid on the way to England's win, in which case the cacophony on here will be deafening.

So true mate...it will be painful if England lose, or win with perceived reffing issues etc...

To be fair, it'll be unfair for both sides. I remember not being able to enjoy a good physical win after the Poite yellow card fiasco.

Head says England. Heart says please lets just thrash them to banish last years debacle.  

England will not win unless by a large margin. A close win will in fact be a loss.

Kia, everything is enhanced on here when its focused on England...you know that...

I am not nor never have been a "grass" however, I also can confirm i will be reporting all manner of unneccesary posts from GE, Stefan etc...should they occur in the aftermath...

As long as we win the moral victory I'll be a happy rugby fan.

GeordieFalcon wrote:Kia, everything is enhanced on here when its focused on England...you know that...

I am not nor never have been a "grass" however, I also can confirm i will be reporting all manner of unneccesary posts from GE, Stefan etc...should they occur in the aftermath...

Only for some posters GF.   

Besides, better to be spoken about than not spoken about at all.

Indifference is lonelier than envy or antagonism.   

Twickenham meadow at least has grass. This suits England and Ireland play.
Wales are more used playing on organic roll up Axminster and mud.

Kia...they're the only ones that cause the issues...not sure why they are allowed to continue...do they have photos of all the mods...?

I'm edging towards Ireland for this one - clear favourites

Barney McGrew did it wrote:I'm edging towards Ireland for this one - clear favourites

Ireland could certainly benefit if England get thumped, although they won't.

I don't mind how England win as long as they do! I have a feeling it will be England by 10 but I really don't mind if it's by 1 resulting from a horrible reffing decision; it would actually be quite funny to see how many people could actually live by their previous mantra of not criticising refs after a defeat.

In my mind a hard one to call. England show ominous signs of becoming a complete team but still are a work in progress. Wales are a known quantity and unless Gatland changes his gameplan I expect England to have the tactics to counter gatlandball.

I hope for a good game - entertaining and close. I fear for a dull penalty driven encounter.

Home advantage should be enough for England I think

gregortree wrote:

Barney McGrew did it wrote:I'm edging towards Ireland for this one - clear favourites

Ireland could certainly benefit if England get thumped, although they won't.

A draw would probably be best for all concerned.
Peace between the English and Welsh as they'll both be able to declare that they could have won but for a ref decision or two.
And good for Ireland in potentially killing off two competing birds with one stone.   

I think home advantage should be enough to see England home but Wales certainly have the players to win at Twickenham. Massive game for both sides.

rodders wrote:I think home advantage should be enough to see England home but Wales certainly have the players to win at Twickenham. Massive game for both sides.

You'll be saying next that Wales can beat anyone on their day... unless it's SH opposition of course ...

Well they can't beat SH opposition, they still have that shocking record under Gatland.

Going into the next match surely the most important coaching statistic is that Lancaster has never beaten Wales.

But he has beaten the best team in the world, here is a little afternoon quiz for you.

what was the name of the last welsh coach to beat the All Blacks?

Scrumpy, how the feck is that relevant to Sunday?

Wales are playing England, a team they have had few problems in beating in recent years.

LondonTiger wrote:Scrumpy, how the feck is that relevant to Sunday?

Wales are playing England, a team they have had few problems in beating in recent years.

But they always need the help of a kiwi to do it!   

If we win with Hartley having a good game, well I guess we can say the same about us.

LondonTiger wrote:Scrumpy, how the feck is that relevant to Sunday?

Wales are playing England, a team they have had few problems in beating in recent years.

Some people will try clutching at any straw they can.

Is Ball going to play? it's a shame the RFU missed out on him seeing as he is English born.

" Send us Victorious..."

I just hope when England do win (and they will), English guys are happy with the win rather than looking to go after a few poor wums.

"Happy and glorious"

Scrumpy wrote:Is Ball going to play? it's a shame the RFU missed out on him seeing as he is English born.

I think we can afford to be generous with our second rows at the moment. Wouldnt want to swap Launchbury and Lawes for anyone and there seems to be a fair amount of talent coming up behind them

 hope so  

lostinwales wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:Is Ball going to play? it's a shame the RFU missed out on him seeing as he is English born.

I think we can afford to be generous with our second rows at the moment. Wouldnt want to swap Launchbury and Lawes for anyone and there seems to be a fair amount of talent coming up behind them

I'd probably say the same for ours too. If I had to choose one, I'd choose Launchbury but more than happy with what we have.

Well i just hope that England win. Seeing that they are at home, but to be honest i am not so sure that home advantage really counts in this day and age.

It will be interesting to see how the front rows go. What with Wales having a Lions front row. Compared to England's.

I suspect the change in the scrum regs will negate Wales to some extent. One thing I will bet - both teams will be up "cleverness" in the front rows playing for penalties resulting in endless reset scrums. Is the ref one who yellowcards props for mucking about?