Froch v Groves II - Seating Plan Released

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Looks like two plans, one for the pitch and one for the stand.



http://www.matchroomboxing.com/news/froch_vs_groves_2_tickets_on.htm

Sugar nobody sensible is arguing that touting is not a problem, however my post was addressing Strongy’s fanciful claims that Eddie had not sold 60,000 tickets despite this running counter to all media reports or logic. Who he has sold them to is quite a different issue. For what it is worth I hold touts in absolute contempt. However outside of a very limited number of people (Glastonbury being an excellent example) it is a problem that is absolute rife in the entertainment industry and is also a problem no promoters, venues, ticket sellers or auction sites pay anything but lip service to addressing, if Hearn’s position on touting is indifference, it is one that sadly reflects the prevailing mentality of the industry.

Should also not be forgotten that touts are businessmen, they only buy tickets where they believe there will be sufficient demand to allow them to demand inflated fees for these tickets, thus making them a profit. So whilst these tickets ending up with touts is unfortunate it does not mean either they have not been sold or that there is not a huge demand to see this fight.

Eddie has admitted on Twitter that up 12,500 tickets went to "unique sources" and 4,000 went to fighters.

This demonstrates my point that Hearn did not sell 60,000 tickets in a couple of hours yesterday morning.  That's simple maths.  Up on 30% of tickets didn't even go on sale.

It is who these "unique sources" are is what is bothering a lot of people judging by comments on the net.  How these tickets were distributed could reflect badly on Matchroom.

To explain away this kind of stuff as "normal for big ticketed events" would be one blindly burying one's head in the sand in order to ignore reality.

To claim it is not normal for big ticketed events, would suggest you know exactly what unique sources entails or how tickets are distributed for other similar sized events. I would posit you know neither of these things, however don't let that get in the way of an opportunity to have a pop at Hearn. Whilst your at it there will almost certainly be some people in the crowd for this event who are drunk, some of whom will have a fight with each other. Do you want to blame Eddie for the breakdown of civility in modern society whilst your at it.

Rowley wrote:To claim it is not normal for big ticketed events, would suggest you know exactly what unique sources entails or how tickets are distributed for other similar sized events. I would posit you know neither of these things, however don't let that get in the way of an opportunity to have a pop at Hearn. Whilst your at it there will almost certainly be some people in the crowd for this event who are drunk, some of whom will have a fight with each other. Do you want to blame Eddie for the breakdown of civility in modern society whilst your at it.

Only 40,000 odd tickets went on sale to the general public as Hearn has said on Twitter. The rest were ear marked.

Over 1000 tickets were available on tout site Seat Wave at lunch time yesterday.

As pointed out by Sugar Boy Sweet above tickets were sold to SeeTickets sister company.

This is boxing promoting we are talking about so what this has to do with somebody drinking and fighting at an event is a mute point. If Eddie wanted to make it difficult for touts he could have.

At the very least it is disingenuous of Hearn to say Matchroom sold out 60,000 tickets yesterday when only 40,000 odd were actually for sale.

Rowley wrote:To claim it is not normal for big ticketed events, would suggest you know exactly what unique sources entails or how tickets are distributed for other similar sized events. I would posit you know neither of these things, however don't let that get in the way of an opportunity to have a pop at Hearn. Whilst your at it there will almost certainly be some people in the crowd for this event who are drunk, some of whom will have a fight with each other. Do you want to blame Eddie for the breakdown of civility in modern society whilst your at it.

O M G

Suspect you mean a moot point, I dearly wish you were mute on this subject but alas not. My original point though that touts and tickets going to corporate sources is absolutely endemic across the entertainment industry, singling out Eddie as someone who should do above and beyond what anyone else does to address this or as the man who should singlehandedly lead the charge against it seems to suggest an agenda against the guy.

You do understand what promoting means, it is generating a buzz and demand, saying 60,000 had been sold, knowing a percentage of those had been held over for corporates or whatever is what every single promoter would have done in Eddie's situation, am curious as to why you would expect Eddie to uphold himself to a higher standard than anybody else in the industry.

ShahenshahG wrote:

Rowley wrote:To claim it is not normal for big ticketed events, would suggest you know exactly what unique sources entails or how tickets are distributed for other similar sized events. I would posit you know neither of these things, however don't let that get in the way of an opportunity to have a pop at Hearn. Whilst your at it there will almost certainly be some people in the crowd for this event who are drunk, some of whom will have a fight with each other. Do you want to blame Eddie for the breakdown of civility in modern society whilst your at it.

O M G

How terrible Shah. I am genuinely ashamed of myself.

Rowley wrote:

ShahenshahG wrote:

Rowley wrote:To claim it is not normal for big ticketed events, would suggest you know exactly what unique sources entails or how tickets are distributed for other similar sized events. I would posit you know neither of these things, however don't let that get in the way of an opportunity to have a pop at Hearn. Whilst your at it there will almost certainly be some people in the crowd for this event who are drunk, some of whom will have a fight with each other. Do you want to blame Eddie for the breakdown of civility in modern society whilst your at it.

O M G

How terrible Shah. I am genuinely ashamed of myself.

No need to get maudlin, dear friend, you have Julius wrapped around your pinky, it alleviates any negative emotion.

come gather round children
it's high time ye learned
bout a hero named strongy
and a devil named hearn

we'll march til we drop
the girls and the fellas
we'll fight til the death
or else fold like umbrellas

we'll march day and night
by the old Wembley towers
they have the tickets
but we have the power

superflyweight wrote:come gather round children
it's high time ye learned
bout a hero named strongy
and a devil named hearn

we'll march til we drop
the girls and the fellas
we'll fight til the death
or else fold like umbrellas

we'll march day and night
by the old Wembley towers
they have the tickets
but we have the power

Strongy's response?

Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,
May by thy mighty aid,
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
and like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God save the qu....qu...qu....*pukes*

Strongback wrote:

Rowley wrote:Has Eddie ever denied/hidden the fact he went to public school, or are you just moving on as it appears all your predictions about ticket sales appear to be way off?

What's to stop Eddie saying he sold 90,000 tickets in 12 minutes.  I have no doubt they will be selling tickets after today.  

Its all spin.

You really are embarrassing yourself now

Strongback wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:

Strongback wrote:

rob-glos wrote:

Strongback wrote:

Rowley wrote:Has Eddie ever denied/hidden the fact he went to public school, or are you just moving on as it appears all your predictions about ticket sales appear to be way off?

What's to stop Eddie saying he sold 90,000 tickets in 12 minutes.  I have no doubt they will be selling tickets after today.  

Its all spin.

Did you get your tickets or is a trip to the Big Smoke failing your cost/benefit analysis?

It doesn't make much sense to say all the tickets are sold if they aren't. 
Sold out signs tend to make people stop trying and encourage resale websites. 

The See ticket website has everything as sold out. 

See tickets are in the business of selling tickets, how do they benefit by putting up sold out signs?

It builds demand.   Eddie made his splash today and things are as hot in terms of sales as they are going to get.  If he were to have tickets on his vendors website for a week and they were unsold the shine would come off the event.  What Eddie is now relying on is people saying "damn I wish I had got my hands on those tickets, that show is a sell out it will be amazing".   Eddie will now gauge the new demand and decide how many additional tickets to sell on top of those they went unsold.  Perception is everything in Eddie's game and he has to appear sh!t hot whether he has hit his targets or not. If Eddie shows a lack of confidence people lose confidence in the event.

How Eddie deals with the next phase of ticket sales will be interesting but in reality fairly predictable.

You're right Strongback, the stadium will be half full come fight night and Eddie's gonna look a proper tool.

The web is now flooded with tickets touts bought today. 10's of thousands of tickets being offered at 3 times the face value.

This story has legs.

No, it doesn't. It simply shows they did a bad job of preventing touts getting hold of tickets.

The tickets still sold, which is what your were ignorantly disputing.

Strongback wrote:Eddie has admitted on Twitter that up 12,500 tickets went to "unique sources" and 4,000 went to fighters.

This demonstrates my point that Hearn did not sell 60,000 tickets in a couple of hours yesterday morning.  That's simple maths.  Up on 30% of tickets didn't even go on sale.

It is who these "unique sources" are is what is bothering a lot of people judging by comments on the net.  How these tickets were distributed could reflect badly on Matchroom.

To explain away this kind of stuff as "normal for big ticketed events" would be one blindly burying one's head in the sand in order to ignore reality.

You are quite spectacularly talking out your @rse.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Strongback wrote:Eddie has admitted on Twitter that up 12,500 tickets went to "unique sources" and 4,000 went to fighters.

This demonstrates my point that Hearn did not sell 60,000 tickets in a couple of hours yesterday morning.  That's simple maths.  Up on 30% of tickets didn't even go on sale.

It is who these "unique sources" are is what is bothering a lot of people judging by comments on the net.  How these tickets were distributed could reflect badly on Matchroom.

To explain away this kind of stuff as "normal for big ticketed events" would be one blindly burying one's head in the sand in order to ignore reality.

You are quite spectacularly talking out your @rse.

Not massively. I had mates who couldn't get tickets through the site, then found seemingly unlimited numbers of £80 tickets going at £300 a pop.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Strongback wrote:Eddie has admitted on Twitter that up 12,500 tickets went to "unique sources" and 4,000 went to fighters.

This demonstrates my point that Hearn did not sell 60,000 tickets in a couple of hours yesterday morning.  That's simple maths.  Up on 30% of tickets didn't even go on sale.

It is who these "unique sources" are is what is bothering a lot of people judging by comments on the net.  How these tickets were distributed could reflect badly on Matchroom.

To explain away this kind of stuff as "normal for big ticketed events" would be one blindly burying one's head in the sand in order to ignore reality.

You are quite spectacularly talking out your @rse.

Read Eddie's twitter page, don't need to speculate when it's from the horse's mouth.

not surprised to hear about the touts, is really a problem that needs solving. think there will be lots of tickets still available for this for people still wanting to go, you just may have to play hard ball with touts and leave it late

i did the exact same thing for stone roses gig, where there was tonnes of tickets available through the touts. luckily for me i live round the corner from heaton park so had the luxury of being able to go down most days. didnt need to in the end, got two tickets at face value

Thing is if the touts aren't able to get rid of them then the asking prices come down, it's pretty simple.

Unless these touts will be happy having spent £2k on tickets they can't shift and make a loss.

Am waiting for strongie to say that's exactly what will happen.

And can I add getmein.com only has 254 tickets available to buy through touts.

Happy?

agreed izzi, they'll make a profit on a few im sure but think if whats being reported is true then there will be loads still available that they may struggle to shift, the venue is huge for boxing. i hope some of them get stung, it happens at every major entertainment gig these days, really p1sses me off. do they have a way of getting them off online first? while every person i speak to always struggles they seems to be able to buy shed loads no problem

Not sure anyone is contesting that many of these tickets have ended up in the hands of touts. However this misses the essential point, that being that touts buy tickets with an intention of making a profit. Now if B’Witched announce they are reforming and playing Wembley, touts will not buy tickets as it is quite clear to anyone outside of the eternally stupid that supply in that instance will completely outstrip demand. The fact that so many tickets have ended up with touts suggests they feel that there will be sufficient demand to allow them to sell their tickets at inflated prices, ergo there is huge demand for these tickets.

CnR, my brother used to know some dodgy folk in Manchester who used to tout for events at the MEN and I believe they knew people in the box office there and so bunged them a few quid to ensure they got either plenty of tickets or preferred tickets.

Believe there are also software packages you can buy that can flood the websites and do multiple orders at the same time, but such technology is a bit beyond my luddite ways.

seanmichaels wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Strongback wrote:Eddie has admitted on Twitter that up 12,500 tickets went to "unique sources" and 4,000 went to fighters.

This demonstrates my point that Hearn did not sell 60,000 tickets in a couple of hours yesterday morning.  That's simple maths.  Up on 30% of tickets didn't even go on sale.

It is who these "unique sources" are is what is bothering a lot of people judging by comments on the net.  How these tickets were distributed could reflect badly on Matchroom.

To explain away this kind of stuff as "normal for big ticketed events" would be one blindly burying one's head in the sand in order to ignore reality.

You are quite spectacularly talking out your @rse.

Not massively. I had mates who couldn't get tickets through the site, then found seemingly unlimited numbers of £80 tickets going at £300 a pop.

No, you're missing the point, Strongy is getting such a hard-on trying the Eddiebash that he's totally failing to comprehend what's being said.

Eddie's talking about unique sales. So for example, I bought 2 tickets in 1 unique sale. So 12,500 tickets didn't get taken out of circulation as Strongy is suggesting, it means there were 12,500 individual sales - ergo people buying multiple tickets.

Seetickets' screw up, plain and simple. Should've put a 4 ticket cap per unique sale, tracked by IP or cc number.

In fairness, it looks like the tickets went on sale and the touts basically crashed the system in buying up tens of thousands of them which did not go directly to fans so the 60k sellout thing is really reaching. You would hope for such a big fight that it would be affordable and fans would be able to get tickets. The touts have gambled though on being able flog the tickets at 2/3 times the face value. If they cant it may just mean there are more tickets available closer to the fight night which will come down in value.

There isn't an event from the Superbowl.......to the Cup final that doesn't get hijacked by "Touts"....

If Hearn gave a million to charity...This guy would moan it isn't two.....

Either he is a wum or he's got issues...I mean how can you hate a guy (that isn't a politician) so much you haven't met.........

Izzi wrote:Thing is if the touts aren't able to get rid of them then the asking prices come down, it's pretty simple.

Unless these touts will be happy having spent £2k on tickets they can't shift and make a loss.

Am waiting for strongie to say that's exactly what will happen.

I live near Ally Pally and whenever there's an event on (even rubbish stuff) there's a dozen guys outside the tube for hours before hand giving the old "buy and sell, buy and sell".

Last time I enquired they were shifting for face value, no more, about an hour before the event kicked off.

Was just about to say the same thing Rowley although was going to use some crappy metal band "dolphin killers" that Dave likes an example.

Quick peruse of the internet doesn't reveal massive quantities either, drop in the ocean to 60000 tickets. Getmein.com has 250 or so, Gumtree a handful, stubhub has around 500 etc etc

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:There isn't an event from the Superbowl.......to the Cup final that doesn't get hijacked by "Touts"....

If Hearn gave a million to charity...This guy would moan it isn't two.....

Either he is a wum or he's got issues...I mean how can you hate a guy (that isn't a politician) so much you haven't met.........

There is one - Glastonbury.

But it's the only one I've ever heard of.

Izzi wrote:Was just about to say the same thing Rowley although was going to use some crappy metal band "dolphin killers" that Dave likes an example.

Quick peruse of the internet doesn't reveal massive quantities either, drop in the ocean to 60000 tickets. Getmein.com has 250 or so, Gumtree a handful, stubhub has around 500 etc etc

im sure ebay will have a few knocking about despite the rules, there will also be a fair few that will change hands not on the internet. much less risk for touts

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:There isn't an event from the Superbowl.......to the Cup final that doesn't get hijacked by "Touts"....

If Hearn gave a million to charity...This guy would moan it isn't two.....

Either he is a wum or he's got issues...I mean how can you hate a guy (that isn't a politician) so much you haven't met.........

There is one - Glastonbury.

But it's the only one I've ever heard of.

yes but have you ever tried getting a ticket for it! hard work is a understatement

Got one this year and each of the three preceding years C&R.......

Which is why I know they are so good at anti-tout measures as a) they're a right pain to get; and b) I want to give my ticket back this year and it bugs me I can't give it to a friend (face value) and have to hand it back to Eavis.

I got 2 tickets for the fight quite easily yesterday, seeing all the messages of how people had a nightmare though makes me feel I got off lucky haha.

Anybody else goin so I know who to avoid?

Izzi wrote:Was just about to say the same thing Rowley although was going to use some crappy metal band "dolphin killers" that Dave likes an example.

Quick peruse of the internet doesn't reveal massive quantities either, drop in the ocean to 60000 tickets. Getmein.com has 250 or so, Gumtree a handful, stubhub has around 500 etc etc

Dolphin Killers would sell out Wembley four times over (if they ever existed), but I wouldn't go cos I can't travel outside of Bradford (pesky bail conditions).

Anyway, am enjoying the growing consensus that STRONGY is an idiot who hatred for Eddie Hearn had blinded him to commonsense and impartiality.

is that only a growing consensus?!!

as our favorite fat Spanish waiter says, "that is FACT"

60,000 looks like a formality...........Good thing is it's a great day for Brit sport...............Bad thing is it negates the need for a great undercard.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:60,000 looks like a formality...........Good thing is it's a great day for Brit sport...............Bad thing is it negates the need for a great undercard.

hopefully not fully truss, 60,000 is small fry to what they may make in PPV sales. a very good under card makes more PPV sales easier. although im guessing that now they have the johnny average from the street attention on the main event they pile the under-card with Olympians against tin cans as they at least know there name

Never known the undercard to sell PPV ......

You want to see Froch-Groves .......You buy the fight....Cheap enough.....

I bought the first one...........To see that fight....

I imagine If ticket sales went slow Hearn to save face may have chucked in a big second fight.....To get people to the arena who were unsure......

PPV already nailed for this fight...Only £20.....and you can watch it in the comfort of your own home.

Rowley wrote:Suspect you mean a moot point, I dearly wish you were mute on this subject but alas not. My original point though that touts and tickets going to corporate sources is absolutely endemic across the entertainment industry, singling out Eddie as someone who should do above and beyond what anyone else does to address this or as the man who should singlehandedly lead the charge against it seems to suggest an agenda against the guy.

You do understand what promoting means, it is generating a buzz and demand, saying 60,000 had been sold, knowing a percentage of those had been held over for corporates or whatever is what every single promoter would have done in Eddie's situation, am curious as to why you would expect Eddie to uphold himself to a higher standard than anybody else in the industry.

Are you saying you would like a different opinion to yours to be muted on a debating forum?

There are many disgruntled hardcore boxing fans today as it is becoming clear that the pile of tickets available to genuine fans was significantly truncated.

I don't have an agenda against Eddie, I just see him as his daddy's office boy who has difficulty chewing gum and farting at the same time. It's fun to watch him blundering about like a second hand car sales man.

I know what promoting is and was involved in it when I was younger.  Of course Eddie will tell porkies to generate buzz but surely I am not being too obtuse when I question how truthful a promoter is being?  How many million words have been previously written on this very subject? Eddie has made a bit of a balls of this in terms of looking after his most loyal fan base.  Who will be there to fill the seats when he is struggling to sell out less glamorous cards?

In terms of mitigating against touts I see examples of how it can be countered such as:

1. Having to preregister with Matchroom.
2. Rewarding loyal boxing fans that attend Matchroom events with an option to pre-book.
3. Cancelling tickets that are being touted on the likes of Viagogo.

England Rugby have implemented all of the above to try and stop touting.

My feeling is Eddie is less concerned about touts once he fills the seats.

I see touting as in the same ball park as the bungs we saw in football, it's a fairly murky world where large amounts of cash can be made. Basically it's a nice little fiddle and I imagine all the main players in these types of deals have a finger in the pie albeit done through 'legitimate companies'. In the old days of the limited wage football players were given batches of tickets and these were seen as theirs to sell as way of a bonus. Tickets as currency is well ingrained.

As for the muted/moot thing you have me there, I wasn't gifted with great spelling or writing skills. I was always opinionated though.

i agree the main event is always the main point in any decision to but PPV, but i do think a under-card can sell people who are undecided.  

if you were just interested in the main event you could go into any pub and watch it (or many other non legit ways), if your interested in a whole card you will buy the thing and have a whole night of watching decent boxing

i do think £20 for one fight isn't value for money, i'll pay it because im a boxing fan who will also watch all the undercards but many others wont, especially if they haven't heard of them

Strongback wrote:

Rowley wrote:Suspect you mean a moot point, I dearly wish you were mute on this subject but alas not. My original point though that touts and tickets going to corporate sources is absolutely endemic across the entertainment industry, singling out Eddie as someone who should do above and beyond what anyone else does to address this or as the man who should singlehandedly lead the charge against it seems to suggest an agenda against the guy.

You do understand what promoting means, it is generating a buzz and demand, saying 60,000 had been sold, knowing a percentage of those had been held over for corporates or whatever is what every single promoter would have done in Eddie's situation, am curious as to why you would expect Eddie to uphold himself to a higher standard than anybody else in the industry.

Are you saying you would like a different opinion to yours to be muted on a debating forum?

There are many disgruntled hardcore boxing fans today as it is becoming clear that the pile of tickets available to genuine fans was significantly truncated.

I don't have an agenda against Eddie

Basically nothing following this is worth reading considering what utter bullsheet that is!!

The amount of tickets the touts have ended up with will be a small percentage of those actually sold as it for every big event. The prices only rockey for those not willing to play the waiting game, I got Blur tickets on the day for £100 for two, which was face value.

Glastonbury is an unique event which manages to overcome these problems because the venue is owned by them. Far trickier when you're using a secondary venue and a secondary seller, why Strongy feels Hearn has done anything wrong is beyond me. He also hasnt had the benefit of selling them a year in advance.

Strongback wrote:
I don't have an agenda against Eddie, I just see him as his daddy's office boy who has difficulty chewing gum and farting at the same time. It's fun to watch him blundering about like a second hand car sales man.
.

Blundering about, from not being involved in the sport five years ago, to being the preeminent promoter in the country now. The only promoter with a contract with the biggest non terrestrial broadcaster in the country and arguably the best stable of fighters in the country. T'is the very dictionary definition of a bloke who does not know his arse from his elbow.

Irrespective of whether these tickets have gone to touts, corporates or whatever seems fairly apparent to pretty much everyone outside of you that this fight is going to break modern box office records for this country, but of course you do not have an agenda against him.

Seems to me you have an opinion about either public school boys and/or cockney wide boy types and are desperately trying to make the story fit your pre conceptions. Eddie has made a fight here that people want to see at a price that in the grand scheme of things, is affordable or is certainly no worse than in line with the industry standards.

I personally will judge a promoter by how he treats his fighters and the cards he puts on, not by where he went to school, but each to their own. There are things Eddie deserves be be bought to book on, Kell Brook continuing to tread water would certainly be one of them, but for me your criticisms of this fight come across as reaching.

Even the Brook thing isn't necessarily his fault, if he's happy fighting who he is for the money he is then Hearn is doing his job.

The guy loves Frank Warren though.........Now that Frampton fights there..

Warren was such a nice guy someone tried to kill him..

Possibly HH, but there is an argument promoters have a duty to fans to put their fighters in the fights fans want to see. Am not sure even his most committed apologists can get too excited about Brook’s recent lack of progress.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:The amount of tickets the touts have ended up with will be a small percentage of those actually sold as it for every big event. The prices only rockey for those not willing to play the waiting game, I got Blur tickets on the day for £100 for two, which was face value.

Glastonbury is an unique event which manages to overcome these problems because the venue is owned by them. Far trickier when you're using a secondary venue and a secondary seller, why Strongy feels Hearn has done anything wrong is beyond me. He also hasnt had the benefit of selling them a year in advance.

I wonder what Eddie's personal allocation of tickets is?

1 for Satan........

3 For the Witches out of Macbeth..........

Not sure after that........Strongy

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Even the Brook thing isn't necessarily his fault, if he's happy fighting who he is for the money he is then Hearn is doing his job.

It is when you consider that Tim Bradley offered Kell to fight for his WBO belt. They turned it down to chase the IBF, but the point is Kell still could have fought for a world title and if he's as good as he claims to be then why not have taken on Tim and beat him?

What's happened to Kell is pretty bad management if you consider he was being mentioned in the same breath as the best in the division only a couple of years ago. Now he has pretty much become a laughing stock with these fights he is being put in. Eddie should have let him off the leash when he beat Matthew Hatton. But instead kept matching him against shoddy opponents until it all nearly backfired against Carson Jones (with all the "Kell wasn't training right" tales).

Fighting woeful opponents is always a big risk at this point as if a banana skin moments happens then Kell is finished. Whereas if he gets beat by a fringe world level fighter he can always use the excuse that this was an off night against a world level fighter. He would be as well in hurrying up!

Brook fights porter in a couple of months..........Maybe the timing could be right..

He'd have lost to Bradley.........

I agree he would have been beaten by Bradley, but it was a world title shot that hes been waiting for and he ran for the hills.

At that time remember, Bradley had just been "schooled" by Pac and was doing Enzo Mac impressions against Prov. Maybe if Kell had of grew a pair they could have got him at the right time.

I'd love to have seen Thurman beat Porter to become IBF champ.

Then we would have had:

Mayweather - WBC (and WBA once he beats Maidana)
Bradley - WBO
Thurman - IBF

You can guarantee Brook wouldn't be that quick chasing belts. Likewise Frankie Gavin. Both would be either switching divisions or awaiting a vacate belt.