Froch v Groves II - Seating Plan Released

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Looks like two plans, one for the pitch and one for the stand.



http://www.matchroomboxing.com/news/froch_vs_groves_2_tickets_on.htm

They were only allowed to sell an initial 60,000. 
Transport for London are the sticking point. 

There's scope for a further 20k if TfL agree to it. 

That's what Hearn said last week anyway. 
Also said that they're selling up the stadium and the first 60k get them about halfway up the top tier. 

If the extra 20k are approved they will be nose bleed seats.

Is quigg not fighting in April ? Not a lot of time to get ready for a frampton fight. A fight between Mitchell/Murray/Crolla/coyle could be on it

gsd5cc0 wrote:Is quigg not fighting in April ? Not a lot of time to get ready for a frampton fight.  A fight between Mitchell/Murray/Crolla/coyle could be on it

Yeh, I'm just dreaming really.......

We can all dream, pity that's as close as we get. Wonder if kell brook will get on the card with another eliminator

https://youtu.be/1xrYOiD_Or8

Eddie talking to Kugan last week. 

Talks about the TfL stuff and also plans for undercard. 
Says at least one more world title fight, hopefully 2. 
Possibly 4 title fights in total on undercard. 

We'll see... Hopefully he does what he says...

I've got tickets!

What did you get Rob?

£100 pitch seats. 
Block EE

So at side of pitch, view should be spot on.

rob-glos wrote:They were only allowed to sell an initial 60,000. 
Transport for London are the sticking point. 

There's scope for a further 20k if TfL agree to it. 

That's what Hearn said last week anyway. 
Also said that they're selling up the stadium and the first 60k get them about halfway up the top tier. 

If the extra 20k are approved they will be nose bleed seats.

Eddie was crapping himself that the tickets wouldn't sell so he was making pre-excuses. I'm sure he's still crapping himself.

I wonder if the England game on Friday 30 May will be restricted to 60,000 due the transport concerns. Eddie couldn't lie straight in bed.

Strongy has just bought seven daggers from an Italian monastery..

Groves has tweeted it's a sell out - does that mean 60k? That's incredible. I didn't give them a hope in hell of doing that many. Great news for British boxing - might help attract big names to fight over here in future.

For the love of god no dogy refs or judges please.

In fairness Haz, Haye-Chisora didn't encourage anybody and that was non-title.....

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:In fairness Haz,  Haye-Chisora didn't encourage anybody and that was non-title.....

Didn't do anywhere near that, though, did it? I went to Mitchell vs Katsidis and it wasn't even half full - sort of sectioned off a bit of the pitch.

Strongback wrote:

rob-glos wrote:They were only allowed to sell an initial 60,000. 
Transport for London are the sticking point. 

There's scope for a further 20k if TfL agree to it. 

That's what Hearn said last week anyway. 
Also said that they're selling up the stadium and the first 60k get them about halfway up the top tier. 

If the extra 20k are approved they will be nose bleed seats.

Eddie was crapping himself that the tickets wouldn't sell so he was making pre-excuses. I'm sure he's still crapping himself.

I wonder if the England game on  Friday 30 May will be restricted to 60,000 due the transport concerns. Eddie couldn't lie straight in bed.

                               

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Strongy has just bought seven daggers from an Italian monastery..

Eddie isn't the devil he's more like a taller version of Del Boy Trotter without the sense of humour.

I wonder if Eddie learned the East End twang in his fee paying school.

EddieBasher wrote:I wonder if the England game on Friday 30 May will be restricted to 60,000 due the transport concerns. Eddie couldn't lie straight in bed.

You mean the England game that will be all over by 10pm and have the ground fully emptied by 10.30pm - by which time the following day Froch/GG probably won't have even started their ringwalks??

Has Eddie ever denied/hidden the fact he went to public school, or are you just moving on as it appears all your predictions about ticket sales appear to be way off?

Strongback wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Strongy has just bought seven daggers from an Italian monastery..

Eddie isn't the devil he's more like a taller version of Del Boy Trotter without the sense of humour.

I wonder if Eddie learned the East End twang in his fee paying school.

Hahaha.

I like Eddie, but your dislike for Eddie is pleasing.

Strongback wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Strongy has just bought seven daggers from an Italian monastery..

Eddie isn't the devil he's more like a taller version of Del Boy Trotter without the sense of humour.

I wonder if Eddie learned the East End twang in his fee paying school.

Such an angry, angry man Strongback. Haha.
Take it you didn't get tickets?

Your Dad taking you Alex ??

Nothing wrong with my Dad taking me if I was going, I love spending time with my dad and he's a boxing fan too. But will be watching it on PPV with him.

60,000 tickets sold already is staggering if it's true and the added benefit is Strongy being made to look rather foolish, a few beers in front of the TV with my father is the way for me too Alex unless we manage to get any tickets from the next lot that go on sale.

Rowley wrote:Has Eddie ever denied/hidden the fact he went to public school, or are you just moving on as it appears all your predictions about ticket sales appear to be way off?

What's to stop Eddie saying he sold 90,000 tickets in 12 minutes. I have no doubt they will be selling tickets after today.

Its all spin.


Did you get your tickets or is a trip to the Big Smoke failing your cost/benefit analysis?

You seem remarkably fascinated by my potential attendance or otherwise Strongy. If you want to ask me out, there is really no need to be this coy.

Errm think I might have fallen for a joke but on twitter I have seen a poster for Curtis Woodhouse v Eric Morales on the undercard..............

Rowley wrote:You seem remarkably fascinated by my potential attendance or otherwise Strongy. If you want to ask me out, there is really no need to be this coy.

I don't come on here to listen to all this gay talk !!!!.....

So It's a nice little bonus...  

Rowley wrote:You seem remarkably fascinated by my potential attendance or otherwise Strongy. If you want to ask me out, there is really no need to be this coy.

You are very defensive of Eddie, makes me kinda curious.  I'm guessing you already have a date lined up with Owen on a  licky press pass.   

Strongback wrote:

Rowley wrote:Has Eddie ever denied/hidden the fact he went to public school, or are you just moving on as it appears all your predictions about ticket sales appear to be way off?

What's to stop Eddie saying he sold 90,000 tickets in 12 minutes.  I have no doubt they will be selling tickets after today.  

Its all spin.

Did you get your tickets or is a trip to the Big Smoke failing your cost/benefit analysis?

It doesn't make much sense to say all the tickets are sold if they aren't. 
Sold out signs tend to make people stop trying and encourage resale websites. 

The See ticket website has everything as sold out. 

See tickets are in the business of selling tickets, how do they benefit by putting up sold out signs?

"I've seen Yigael's wall Mr Hearn and it's got your Son's face on it !!..You must kill your Son"........

It's all a conspiracy rob. Get with the program.

Eddie will be kicking himself for underpricing the whole  shebang

rob-glos wrote:

Strongback wrote:

Rowley wrote:Has Eddie ever denied/hidden the fact he went to public school, or are you just moving on as it appears all your predictions about ticket sales appear to be way off?

What's to stop Eddie saying he sold 90,000 tickets in 12 minutes.  I have no doubt they will be selling tickets after today.  

Its all spin.

Did you get your tickets or is a trip to the Big Smoke failing your cost/benefit analysis?

It doesn't make much sense to say all the tickets are sold if they aren't. 
Sold out signs tend to make people stop trying and encourage resale websites. 

The See ticket website has everything as sold out. 

See tickets are in the business of selling tickets, how do they benefit by putting up sold out signs?

It builds demand.   Eddie made his splash today and things are as hot in terms of sales as they are going to get.  If he were to have tickets on his vendors website for a week and they were unsold the shine would come off the event.  What Eddie is now relying on is people saying "damn I wish I had got my hands on those tickets, that show is a sell out it will be amazing".   Eddie will now gauge the new demand and decide how many additional tickets to sell on top of those they went unsold.  Perception is everything in Eddie's game and he has to appear sh!t hot whether he has hit his targets or not. If Eddie shows a lack of confidence people lose confidence in the event.

How Eddie deals with the next phase of ticket sales will be interesting but in reality fairly predictable.

Just leave it for heaven sake.......

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Just leave it for heaven sake.......

Would you be able to leave Joe Louis?.............thought not.

Joe Louis is interesting.......

You're so boring I bet your Mrs is a blow up doll......and I bet she deflates way before she's supposed to..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Joe Louis is interesting.......

You're so boring I bet your Mrs is a blow up doll......and I bet she deflates way before she's supposed to..

Don't respond if I bore you.

Eddie is current and relevant unlike most of your subject matter.


BTW Jo tells me its you who has the problem with inflation.

Strongback wrote:

rob-glos wrote:

Strongback wrote:

Rowley wrote:Has Eddie ever denied/hidden the fact he went to public school, or are you just moving on as it appears all your predictions about ticket sales appear to be way off?

What's to stop Eddie saying he sold 90,000 tickets in 12 minutes.  I have no doubt they will be selling tickets after today.  

Its all spin.

Did you get your tickets or is a trip to the Big Smoke failing your cost/benefit analysis?

It doesn't make much sense to say all the tickets are sold if they aren't. 
Sold out signs tend to make people stop trying and encourage resale websites. 

The See ticket website has everything as sold out. 

See tickets are in the business of selling tickets, how do they benefit by putting up sold out signs?

It builds demand.   Eddie made his splash today and things are as hot in terms of sales as they are going to get.  If he were to have tickets on his vendors website for a week and they were unsold the shine would come off the event.  What Eddie is now relying on is people saying "damn I wish I had got my hands on those tickets, that show is a sell out it will be amazing".   Eddie will now gauge the new demand and decide how many additional tickets to sell on top of those they went unsold.  Perception is everything in Eddie's game and he has to appear sh!t hot whether he has hit his targets or not. If Eddie shows a lack of confidence people lose confidence in the event.

How Eddie deals with the next phase of ticket sales will be interesting but in reality fairly predictable.

That really doesn't make any sense. 

If they had sold 30,000 tickets today nobody would be saying "oh this is a total failure"
They're doing a big press tour, multiple press conferences... There's 12 weeks to go. 

Taking tickets off sale doesn't bulld demand. 

On a side note, after Frank Warren half sold a horse yard on Saturday.... I bet he's having a great day!!

I think it makes sense to Strongy and nobody else but hey ho that's life. Maybe companies will start saying everything is out of stock just to build demand which is a futile exercise when they don't miraculously end up with more to sell at a later date.

Just watched various reports. To me Groves seemed a bit twitchy and edgy, Froch seemed pretty relaxed throughout most of it save for the shove. Not reading too much in to that, Tyson went mental and caused various whole-stage fights in the past etc.

Just talking about body language. One looked calm and relaxed, the other looked just a little bit edgey.

Don't really care much for pre fight hype of who's won the mind games. Neither have the aura of Tyson and neither are Bhop when it comes to playing with people before stepping in the ring.

So moist for this fight

Devestated about this, was on the site checking out with my £100 tickets looking like a cheshire cat as I thought about the trip over. Only for the site to crash, no comfirmation of tickets purchased or anything like that. Just a big whole in my bank account because the money had been taken from the account. Rang up to be told I'd have to wait till tomorrow to get any help with my missing money.

Strongback wrote:

rob-glos wrote:

Strongback wrote:

Rowley wrote:Has Eddie ever denied/hidden the fact he went to public school, or are you just moving on as it appears all your predictions about ticket sales appear to be way off?

What's to stop Eddie saying he sold 90,000 tickets in 12 minutes.  I have no doubt they will be selling tickets after today.  

Its all spin.

Did you get your tickets or is a trip to the Big Smoke failing your cost/benefit analysis?

It doesn't make much sense to say all the tickets are sold if they aren't. 
Sold out signs tend to make people stop trying and encourage resale websites. 

The See ticket website has everything as sold out. 

See tickets are in the business of selling tickets, how do they benefit by putting up sold out signs?

It builds demand.   Eddie made his splash today and things are as hot in terms of sales as they are going to get.  If he were to have tickets on his vendors website for a week and they were unsold the shine would come off the event.  What Eddie is now relying on is people saying "damn I wish I had got my hands on those tickets, that show is a sell out it will be amazing".   Eddie will now gauge the new demand and decide how many additional tickets to sell on top of those they went unsold.  Perception is everything in Eddie's game and he has to appear sh!t hot whether he has hit his targets or not. If Eddie shows a lack of confidence people lose confidence in the event.

How Eddie deals with the next phase of ticket sales will be interesting but in reality fairly predictable.

You're right Strongback, the stadium will be half full come fight night and Eddie's gonna look a proper tool.

AlexHuckerby wrote:

Strongback wrote:

rob-glos wrote:

Strongback wrote:

Rowley wrote:Has Eddie ever denied/hidden the fact he went to public school, or are you just moving on as it appears all your predictions about ticket sales appear to be way off?

What's to stop Eddie saying he sold 90,000 tickets in 12 minutes.  I have no doubt they will be selling tickets after today.  

Its all spin.

Did you get your tickets or is a trip to the Big Smoke failing your cost/benefit analysis?

It doesn't make much sense to say all the tickets are sold if they aren't. 
Sold out signs tend to make people stop trying and encourage resale websites. 

The See ticket website has everything as sold out. 

See tickets are in the business of selling tickets, how do they benefit by putting up sold out signs?

It builds demand.   Eddie made his splash today and things are as hot in terms of sales as they are going to get.  If he were to have tickets on his vendors website for a week and they were unsold the shine would come off the event.  What Eddie is now relying on is people saying "damn I wish I had got my hands on those tickets, that show is a sell out it will be amazing".   Eddie will now gauge the new demand and decide how many additional tickets to sell on top of those they went unsold.  Perception is everything in Eddie's game and he has to appear sh!t hot whether he has hit his targets or not. If Eddie shows a lack of confidence people lose confidence in the event.

How Eddie deals with the next phase of ticket sales will be interesting but in reality fairly predictable.

You're right Strongback, the stadium will be half full come fight night and Eddie's gonna look a proper tool.

The web is now flooded with tickets touts bought today. 10's of thousands of tickets being offered at 3 times the face value.

This story has legs.

Hearns is the brains behind that of course then?

Hearn has been getting dogs abuse on his twitter about touts picking up vast amounts of tickets resulting in Joe Pukebucket getting fleeced. But what can he do about it? SeeTickets are responsible for that, they're the exclusive ticket seller.

Looks to be major issues with the ticketing. Touts have been able to buy up an absolute shed load of tickets for resale and system crashes meant loads of fans have missed out and will now have to pay three times face value. Lots of angry punters. Hearn saying he will put up another 20,000 but whats to stop dame thing happening?

Not Hearns fault....

Its not really clear whos fault it is. Apparently boxing unlike other sports like football/rugby does not have restrictions on touting leaving it open to exploitation. However there are people complaining elsewhere that Matchroom could have used "terms and conditions" to invalidate touted tickets which would have been loads of extra hassle. Im just reading on other sites and there are loads of complaints with the system. Going off the touts there are tens of thousands tickets that were snatched and some of them include the subsidiary/sister company of the main ticketing site which looks a bit naughty. I dont know how preventable it is/was. It looks like there is a loophole to be exploited and nobody really did anything to close it. And in fairness "60k sold out in an hour" looks great for Hearn but it isnt telling the full story seemingly. Looks like a bit of a mess to be honest.

Let me see if I can get this right, as us northerners can be a simple bunch. Rather than actually selling 60,000 tickets which appears to have been a possibility based on the reaction online and on forums such as this Eddie has decided to just pretend he has sold 60,000 so he can say he has done what he may have been able to do for real any way.

In order to do this, he has managed to persuade an external company, who make their money almost exclusively by selling tickets, to not actually sell tickets they may have been able to sell and to crash their website at various points of the day, a move that would not only impact on their ability to sell tickets to this event but also to every other event they are trying to sell tickets to.

All makes perfect sense to me. Does anyone know if he did all this from a hollowed out volcano whilst stroking a white cat?

Jeff, the suggestion isn't that Eddie has done anything wrong per se, however it does appear that the '60k sell out' doesn't represent 60k fans all getting tickets. Hearn said there have been 12,500 unique sales, meaning a large percent of tickets have been sold in bulk to third party companies or touts - with the intention of being resold to the fans at an inflated price. This means Eddie still gets his money and on paper it's a sell out, but that a lot of fans get stung. This isn't Hearns fault, but MatchRoom & SeeTickets maybe could've done more to stop this kind of thing happening. It's prevalent at a lot of big events, but I think Glasto has systems in place to prevent it, however MatchRoom aren't used to promoting events of such magnitude.

Has Eddie ever done anything without putting his foot in it?

Maybe he didn't fill in the anti tout form properly, wouldn't be the first time he's had a problem filling out a proforma.

4000 tickets went to the two fighters.  That's a lot of family and friends.  I wonder how they will distribute the tickets with a face value of £300,000.  Reckon they could do a million on the right website?

Barry Fry, Harry Rednap, Frank Warren and Barry Hearn.....grew up on the same streets.

Strongback wrote:

Rowley wrote:You seem remarkably fascinated by my potential attendance or otherwise Strongy. If you want to ask me out, there is really no need to be this coy.

You are very defensive of Eddie, makes me kinda curious.  I'm guessing you already have a date lined up with Owen on a  licky press pass.    

The evidence is growing that Rowley is in fact Eddie Hearn/the Devil.

Ive always suspected.