Rumours of a Fix in the Canelo v Angulo Fight

First topic message reminder :

There are quite a few people in Mexico who believe the Alverez v Canelo fight was a fix.

Juan Manuel Marquez took to twitter to call the fight a fix.  It's in Spanish but basically Marquez is saying the result was "artfully planned". https://mobile.twitter.com/jmmarquez_1/tweets

Immediately after the fight Floyd Mayweather Sr made the following comments:

“It didn’t seem like he [Angulo] was throwing punches back to try and hurt Canelo,” Mayweather Sr. said to esnewsreporting. “It just looked like he was taking punches to me. It just seemed to me like he wasn’t trying to hit Canelo back hard at all. He wasn’t coming in strong; he was taking punishment.”



Then an article appears on a boxing website in Mexico claiming GBP are being investigated by the FBI for fight fixing.The translation is a bit rough but you can get the idea, see below.


Who knows?  Thought I would relay for a bit of chatter.


http://boxaldia.com/2014/03/10/el-fb...oy-promotions/


Translation:

FBI INVESTIGATING THE ARRANGEMENTS IN BOXING BY GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS

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Isaac Guerra

After the controversial fight last Saturday gave the Mexican Alfredo 'El Perro' Angulo before Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has intensified a serious investigation that takes months to detect arrangements in professional boxing, especially with Golden Boy Promotions.

In researching the name Alfredo Angulo figure now, but it's Shane Mosley, who happened to Alvarez fought, and to top it off, it emerged that fighters of the block of Golden Boy Promotions as Victor Ortiz among others are involved.

A source close to the investigation revealed www.boxaldia.com already interviewed several fighters, some of them have sold their fights accepted, so starring Alfredo Angulo foot gave investigations are arreciaran.

The names that come to light in the research are Richard Schaefer, Eric Gomez and Oscar de la Hoya, especially since it is the banker who runs the company money and finance and are monitoring the movements.

Following the defeat of Angulo, FBI agents learned that he will be making a visit this week to the offices of Golden Boy Promotions in this week and will make a visit to the 'Dog'.

Research is already reaching where FBI investigators were waiting, takes days to know the results are.

"We interviewed several fighters, they even talk that someone spoke with a Uruguayan representative to see if the accounts add up in certain fights that worked with them, there are fighters with whom he talked and not even the agencies are to engage much with the company, you know it's hot zone, "the spokesperson told

Rowley wrote:Funnily enough Shah, when I posted the comment it was not to start a debate about the Stones' relative merits, it was more to illustrate what a badly constructed and specious argument it was on Strongy's part. This is because for it to have any merit it would have to be based on the assumption that either any of us have ever argued every card Eddie puts on is amazing (we haven't) or that one poor card makes everything else they have done rubbish (it doesn't)

Then you are a dull dull man who watches paint dry to aid his masturbating. Head against brick wall stuff.

Off the top of my head Eddie's recent Christmas show was a joke as was the Froch v Groves undercard.  Eddie got lucky that Groves made a fight out of it which most people didn't expect.

'got lucky'

Yeh, because it's not like it was a fight between the UK's #1 and #2 or anything......

Pathetic

TopHat24/7 wrote:'got lucky'

Yeh, because it's not like it was a fight between the UK's #1 and #2 or anything......

Pathetic

 Froch was 2/9 to win. Practically nobody gave Groves a chance.

Either you have a short memory or your skull is thick like your waistline.

Given how short odds are in boxing that's nothing special.

Still, keep beating yourself up about it....

Strongback wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:'got lucky'

Yeh, because it's not like it was a fight between the UK's #1 and #2 or anything......

Pathetic

 Froch was 2/9 to win. Practically nobody gave Groves a chance.

Either you have a short memory or your skull is thick like your waistline.

Does that not mean then that Eddie deserves praise for believing in GG and seeing something that nobody else seen?

Pedro147 wrote:
Does that not mean then that Eddie deserves praise for believing in GG and seeing something that nobody else seen?

Based on him not deserving any credit for making a rematch everyone wanted to see that looks likely to break modern British Box Office records I would hazard a guess the response to this is unlikely to be in the affirmative.

Pedro147 wrote:

Strongback wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:'got lucky'

Yeh, because it's not like it was a fight between the UK's #1 and #2 or anything......

Pathetic

 Froch was 2/9 to win. Practically nobody gave Groves a chance.

Either you have a short memory or your skull is thick like your waistline.

Does that not mean then that Eddie deserves praise for believing in GG and seeing something that nobody else seen?

Eddie got lucky.

Also gets no credit for securing life changing paydays.

Also gets no credit for securing world titles.

Also gets no credi.....ahhh, you get the picture....!

TopHat24/7 wrote:Also gets no credit for securing life changing paydays.

Also gets no credit for securing world titles.

Also gets no credi.....ahhh, you get the picture....!

Doesn't get much abuse losing world titles.

Strongback wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:Also gets no credit for securing life changing paydays.

Also gets no credit for securing world titles.

Also gets no credi.....ahhh, you get the picture....!

Doesn't get much abuse losing world titles.

Fat Mick can only dream of getting his charges a shot at a title and the living sh!t kicked out of them in the process

He doesn't lose world titles, the fighters do. Am still curious what you would prefer. If a fighter is calling himself a world champion I want to see him prove it against the best at his weight, if he loses so be it. Better that than having to endure endless defences of vacant titles against people nobody has ever heard of, unless you're genuinely saying as a fan you prefer that as a method of promoting.

Anyone ever see the Larry Sanders show episode where Hank dresses up as "Adolf Hankler" and does a parody of Jeapordy in which the answer to all of the questions is "The Jews"?  That's like Strongy with Eddie Hearn.  
 
This boxing promoter responsible for the sinking the Titanic and personally drilled holes in the bottom of the lifeboats
 
Who is Eddie Hearn.

Rowley wrote:He doesn't lose world titles, the fighters do. Am still curious what you would prefer. If a fighter is calling himself a world champion I want to see him prove it against the best at his weight, if he loses so be it. Better that than having to endure endless defences of vacant titles against people nobody has ever heard of, unless you're genuinely saying as a fan you prefer that as a method of promoting.

He puts fights like Crawford Vs Burns together, secures £1million for Barker in tough fights they can conceivably win but then Hearns is targeted for losing world titles, he puts them in against nobodies, they are joke fights, they fight outside of there own country for a world title shot and they are being fed for peanuts. He actually does something good that he finds hard to criticise he simply got lucky.

#StrongbackLogic

AlexHuckerby wrote:

Rowley wrote:He doesn't lose world titles, the fighters do. Am still curious what you would prefer. If a fighter is calling himself a world champion I want to see him prove it against the best at his weight, if he loses so be it. Better that than having to endure endless defences of vacant titles against people nobody has ever heard of, unless you're genuinely saying as a fan you prefer that as a method of promoting.

He puts fights like Crawford Vs Burns together, secures £1million for Barker in tough fights they can conceivably win but then Hearns is targeted for losing world titles, he puts them in against nobodies, they are joke fights, they fight outside of there own country for a world title shot and they are being fed for peanuts. He actually does something good that he finds hard to criticise he simply got lucky.

#StrongbackLogic

Where's the critical analysis in your post?

In your world Eddie walks on water.

All I do is hold up a mirror to the blind pycophantry that exists towards Hearn on this site.

Matchrooms last 4 or 5 cards have been dire, as bad as what Warren puts out.
Feel free to post up the cards so we can have a good look at them.

#havealexsballsdroppedyet

Strongback, my dear friend, you just appear to have lost all logic and reason when it comes to the case of Eddie Hearn. He is your new fix since Haye has somewhat left the scene.

MY view was that the Liverpool Card last night was pretty poor and was more or less just saved by Bellew's fight being quite good, otherwise it would have gone down as a complete disaster, however if you actually don't just point out the negatives in everything and give some form of sympathy to Hearn in things that go wrong outside of his control then you may end up with a view that is actually seen as somewhat balanced. Hearns card unfortunately was plagued with injuries, Callum Smith would have been good to see, Paul Smith vs Tobias Webb would have been a fun fight, although you realistically only see one winner. Stephen Smith was in a very tough fight, his toughest on paper since Selby. Brook's fight was a filler, though relatively entertaining, Mitchell's fight was poor, Bellew saved it from being very poor to just pretty poor.

However the last couple of cards have had some very good matchups and very entertaining fights on them, Rees Vs. Buckland was scintilating, having a talent like Crawford in Scotland is brilliant, Coyle Vs Brizuela was probably the FOTY so far and one of the most insane fights I have ever watched. Darren Hamilton Vs. Woodhouse was a very good fight, Cardle Vs Appleby was also a good fight, watching Joshua although obviously against overmatched opponents has been good to watch, personally I enjoy watching the progression of exciting young up and comers.