Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

[monty junior]

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It is kind of weird CS that Duty considers us an elite club and the quality of players (that Wenger has signed) and our CL football as the main reasons, but then he considers Wenger a failure. It looks like a logical inconsistency to me. And I can't name 10 clubs in Europe bigger or better than we are.

Bigger - Manchester United, Liverpool, AC Milan
Better - Chelsea, Manchester City, Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG, Bayern Munich, Dortmund/Napoli.

There we go. The first three have better history and are a "bigger" club in that respect. The other seven are just...better.

Is that why Napoli got knocked of our CL group. Dortmund is nowhere near the team they were earlier in the year when we played in CL in terms of injuries and we split with them. If you really want to measure we have to look at criteria. If it is "better" I disagree certainly with regards to Dortmund and Napoli as of right now or throughout the season. Dortmund is behind Schalke and Leverkusen and neither one of those teams are all that mighty this year. Here are the teams if I am ranking the "better" aspect

1. Bayern
2. real
3. Barca
4. Chelsea
5. PSG
6. Juventus
7. Man City
8. Atleti
9. Arsenal

So Arsenal are in the top 10, even if you would rate Dortmund who is on the skids right now as being better, which I don't. Liverpool would have a fair shout right now at coming in ahead of us. That would still put us in the top 10 in terms of quality.

Dortmund are a fairly comfortable second now and are almost certainly in to the CL quarters. Depends what you regard as elite, for me the word elite is the very very best like Bayern, Real, Barca even Man U, teams who have a history of domestic and European domination. Arsenal are the level below, certainly no disgrace.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Sexy

[GSC]

When you say rethink gsc. Do you mean a new career?

Heh, there were sparks for United today, but nothing really of substance. He needs to have a clear out regardless but some decisions were off. RVP should've been off by 60 minutes, Matas wasted left

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

God Townsend is rubbish

[Dolphin Ziggler]

OxLol Chamberlain

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Bentaleb is awful, why does Sherwood persist with him

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Cos hes great and AVB was poor? Or something dumb

[NickisBHAFC]

Christ AVB did screw Spurs up, spent 100 million on crap.

[NickisBHAFC]

Can see this score getting ugly today.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

The modern football fan - bemoans lack of patience but desperate for instant gratification

[GSC]

Tbf, that probably applies regardless of football.

[Duty281]

The modern football fan - bemoans lack of patience but desperate for instant gratification

That's the fast food culture of my generation. Thankfully, I seem to have avoided it.

[kingraf]

I love fast food - so instant and gratifying....

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Mike Dean, the leader of the anti Arsenal movement, is having a good game

[NickisBHAFC]

Half time. Arsenal deservedly 1-0 up. Tottenham been terrible.

[CFCNick]

So, I'm not wrong really. You were basically being picky over the choice of word. Cos actually, Nick is still right by both of your definitions. We're all right.

Well you are wrong as you tried to tell me handball does not have to be intentional when it does. Recklessness is a form of intention not just in football but in common law in the UK.

You really are a jobsworth type aren't you CS. Everything in your life is so black and white. So absolute.

[Duty281]

So, I'm not wrong really. You were basically being picky over the choice of word. Cos actually, Nick is still right by both of your definitions. We're all right.

Well you are wrong as you tried to tell me handball does not have to be intentional when it does. Recklessness is a form of intention not just in football but in common law in the UK.

You really are a jobsworth type aren't you CS. Everything in your life is so black and white. So absolute.

Especially as there's many different types of intention in law, and they all differ according to the type of offence, I believe.

[The Special Juan]

McDonald's, McDonald's, Kentucky Fried Chicken and a Pizza Hut.

[Duty281]

Hmmm...I went to a KFC the other day.

Order ready in thirty seconds..fantastic! God knows what I were eating, though.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Oh my word what a miss

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Arsenal pretty lucky there, well Chesney Hawkes was anyway

[NickisBHAFC]

Bentaleb is awful, why does Sherwood persist with him

This.

[The Special Juan]

Penalties at Celtic Park #JustSayin

[GSC]

Hmmm...I went to a KFC the other day.

Order ready in thirty seconds..fantastic! God knows what I were eating, though.

One near me had rats in the kitchen.

Good job I don't eat KFC

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Spurs should be at least level

[GSC]

Penalties at Celtic Park #JustSayin

0-0 after 120 minutes #justsayin

[The Special Juan]

Penalties at Celtic Park #JustSayin

0-0 after 120 minutes #justsayin

I don't recall a single good save

[Duty281]

Hmmm...I went to a KFC the other day.

Order ready in thirty seconds..fantastic! God knows what I were eating, though.

One near me had rats in the kitchen.

Good job I don't eat KFC

Paints a delightful image on my mind, it really does.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Gonna win a tenner if Le Arse win just realised

Cmon Giroud

[kingraf]

if Arsenal win... Tottenham will have nicked one point out of a possible 21 vs the top four... £100m, coulda signed my buddies and I (some of whom are bouncers, others florists of "herbs") for £1m combined and we'd only yield one point less

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

How many more chances do Spurs want to waste

[NickisBHAFC]

Tottenham won't score.

[NickisBHAFC]

If Tottenham win ill let Admin change my name to whatever they want for ever.

If Tottenham draw ill let Admin change my name to whatever for a week.

[TopoftheChops]

If Tottenham win ill let Admin change my name to whatever they want for ever.

If Tottenham draw ill let Admin change my name to whatever for a week.

GlennMurrayismyhero

[kingraf]

Penalty for me... Had to be Mike Dean who doesn't give it. The law of attraction is real

[The Special Juan]

if Arsenal win... Tottenham will have nicked one point out of a possible 21 vs the top four... £100m, coulda signed my buddies and I (some of whom are bouncers, others florists of "herbs") for £1m combined and we'd only yield one point less

Current top 4 or historical top 4?

Actually ignore that, remembered they fluked a win at OT.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

God Townsend is rubbish

[Dolphin Ziggler]

BOOM! Easiest double ever

[NickisBHAFC]

Tottenham were awful. Never ever looked like scoring. 

Great goal by Arsenal.

[Duty281]

That should be the top four, as a minimum, secured now for Arsenal. Well done them.

Disjointed season for Spurs and it will end in disappointment again.

[LastDamnation]

Wasn't the greatest performance from us tbh, will have to play much better to beat chelsea next week.

[NickisBHAFC]

I like and rate Tim Sherwood a lot. But the squad he is working with isn't very good. They need a big clear out and need to cut there loses on players like Lamala and Soldungo.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Tottenham were awful. Never ever looked like scoring. 

Yeah I mean not as if Chadli missed a chance from four yards out with no goalkeeper in the net or nothing

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I like and rate Tim Sherwood a lot. But the squad he is working with isn't very good. They need a big clear out and need to cut there loses on players like Lamala and Soldungo.

What do you rate him on the back of?

[CFCNick]

I like and rate Tim Sherwood a lot. But the squad he is working with isn't very good. They need a big clear out and need to cut there loses on players like Lamala and Soldungo.

What do you rate him on the back of?

Nick rates everyone

[kingraf]

The real story is that with this defeat - David Moyes all but assured Liverpool a top four spot, and with condemned poor little Delfina Suarez to an irreversible Scouse accent

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I like and rate Tim Sherwood a lot. But the squad he is working with isn't very good. They need a big clear out and need to cut there loses on players like Lamala and Soldungo.

What do you rate him on the back of?

Throwing his coat on the bench in frustration obvs

[Ent]

Well my prediction was wrong considering we didn't score orister a decent chance in 90 minutes.

The players should be embarrassed as should the management.

And ordinary Liverpool side has done the double over us quite easily with us performing awfully in both games - today we lost as Liverpool had 9/10 outfield players who could actually run and we had 2/10.

Moyes just needs to go and go now, steering us to our first finish outside the top 3 in nearly a 1/4 of a century and or first finish outside cl places sinces they started awarding more than one.

I'll never know what he was thinking win team selection and tactics today. With an entire midfield who can't run and 2 wingers with no interest in defending.

Onto mata- we should sell him, he is terrible and Jose must be laughing to himself. Looks good I the ball but can't beat a man, run with the ball or defend at all. A waste of £40 million quid bringing moyes total wasted to £65 million.

What a waste.

[socal1976]

Kos and Per were absolutely immense. Scz gifted Spurs their best chance other than that and a couple of Adebayor half chances I think Arsenal pretty much controlled them. We should have made 2-0 or even 3-0 in the first half and killed it off. Dean missed a clear penalty late in the match where Vertinongen didn't play the ball and headlocked Kos on the set piece but that almost never gets called. To be fair our reverse rabbit's foot dean had a good match. Rosicky a wonder strike.

Right now it looks basically like the CL teams for next year are settled and any of the 4 of them could win this thing. Arsenal if they do the unlikely and beat Chelsea and Man City in the next two fixtures could find themselves in pole position. It is anyone of the top 4 are in it. One objective of making the Champions League secured, and in great position to win the cup, and it is the middle of march and we are still in it for the league as well. A lot of clubs wish they could fail like Arsenal.

[socal1976]

Well my prediction was wrong considering we didn't score orister a decent chance in 90 minutes.

The players should be embarrassed as should the management.

And ordinary Liverpool side has done the double over us quite easily with us performing awfully in both games - today we lost as Liverpool had 9/10 outfield players who could actually run and we had 2/10.

Moyes just needs to go and go now, steering us to our first finish outside the top 3 in nearly a 1/4 of a century and or first finish outside cl places sinces they started awarding more than one.

I'll never know what he was thinking win team selection and tactics today. With an entire midfield who can't run and 2 wingers with no interest in defending.

Onto mata- we should sell him, he is terrible and Jose must be laughing to himself. Looks good I the ball but can't beat a man, run with the ball or defend at all. A waste of £40 million quid bringing moyes total wasted to £65 million.

What a waste.

Bit harsh to say that this is an ordinary Liverpool side probably the best they have been in the last few years. I do agree with you that they certainly do agree that the 65 million spent on Mata an Fellaini looks so far to be a waste. Jose is going to get a free world class striker with United's 37 million next year. United should have signed a manager with the experience and CV of having won at a big club. It is a different animal doing a good job at United and doing a good job Everton where finishing in the top 7 is seen as a good season. RVP looks past it, he had one great year then Robbin Van Injured showed up.

[Ent]

They are ordinary - the pl is awful, probably the lowest standard since it was created.

The Liverpool side with reina, mascherano, gerrard and Torres in their pomp would have walked this league, as would any good Chelsea, united or arsenals 03/04 side.

It is god awful every single week.

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