Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

by monty junior Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:27 pm

First topic message reminder :

socal1976 wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
socal1976 wrote:It is kind of weird CS that Duty considers us an elite club and the quality of players (that Wenger has signed) and our CL football as the main reasons, but then he considers Wenger a failure. It looks like a logical inconsistency to me. And I can't name 10 clubs in Europe bigger or better than we are.

Bigger - Manchester United, Liverpool, AC Milan
Better - Chelsea, Manchester City, Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG, Bayern Munich, Dortmund/Napoli.

There we go. The first three have better history and are a "bigger" club in that respect. The other seven are just...better.

Is that why Napoli got knocked of our CL group. Dortmund is nowhere near the team they were earlier in the year when we played in CL in terms of injuries and we split with them. If you really want to measure we have to look at criteria. If it is "better" I disagree certainly with regards to Dortmund and Napoli as of right now or throughout the season. Dortmund is behind Schalke and Leverkusen and neither one of those teams are all that mighty this year. Here are the teams if I am ranking the "better" aspect

1. Bayern
2. real
3. Barca
4. Chelsea
5. PSG
6. Juventus
7. Man City
8. Atleti
9. Arsenal

So Arsenal are in the top 10, even if you would rate Dortmund who is on the skids right now as being better, which I don't. Liverpool would have a fair shout right now at coming in ahead of us. That would still put us in the top 10 in terms of quality.

Dortmund are a fairly comfortable second now and are almost certainly in to the CL quarters. Depends what you regard as elite, for me the word elite is the very very best like Bayern, Real, Barca even Man U, teams who have a history of domestic and European domination. Arsenal are the level below, certainly no disgrace.

by **Crimey** Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:10 pm

GSC wrote:Unless Fellaini plays CB I guess

Apparently he and Carrick are rotating throughout the game according to Moyes....

Headscratch

by socal1976 Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:12 pm

kingraf wrote:I only logged in hoping that SoCal had already erupted - Someone PM me when the carnage begins... hopefully, CS is also logged on simultaneously - this could be the greatest threat in the history of the interweb

I doubt that KR, unfortunately since the 5-0 defeat at anfield I knew we weren't a team that could yet win the league. And today this result clearly demonstrated it. Wenger needs to figure out what is going on and get the team back to playing good football and win the FA cup. That is the only thing that can salvage the season. I hope this sends a signal to him and the board that we need to add real quality in the summer.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:16 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Cisse missed a sitter- ta for the pt Newcastle! phew

You'd have thought you'd have learned by now - never tempt fate!

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:17 pm

Crimey wrote:Suarez already has more goals than RVP finished with last year and is only one assist behind how many Mata had last year. Right now, I'd say he is up there with Messi and Ronaldo. It will be interesting to see how Chelsea and City approach the Liverpool games, attack and they could be done on the counter, sit back and Liverpool can break them down. Expect Chelsea will go for the early goal and then try and sit back for the rest of the game, City will probably just out-score Liverpool, on paper the Liverpool-City game should be a stormer.

8-8

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:17 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Cisse missed a sitter- ta for the pt Newcastle! phew

You'd have thought you'd have learned by now - never tempt fate!

I know lol he scored 30 seconds after!! Doh

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:19 pm

weird team by united.. what is moyes on..

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:20 pm

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:20 pm

Problem with us is, as its always been, we seem to let teams walk over us in games like this

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:22 pm

yeah really looks like that based on that clip..

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:28 pm

So rooney lone striker. interesting

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:28 pm

Hahaha that was a nothing game!

I'd be interested to see how Mata does centrally behind Rooney if it wasnt for the fact I hope they both play Poopie

by westisbest Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:29 pm

Ha, Ha. Great answer by OGS, when asked about Liverpool.

In fairness fair play. Has his own problems with Cardiff.

Bit of a stupid question to ask.

by GSC Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:29 pm

RVP being out might help Moyes.

Mata should be more involved

by GSC Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:34 pm

Fellaini shouldve scored really.

by GSC Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:35 pm

Bright start from United as Mata gets in behind.

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:37 pm

oh my god!!!!!!!!!!

rooney

vision

by GSC Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:38 pm

Magic goal from Rooney

by The Special Juan Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:38 pm

Hee hee hee. That was a good goal.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:39 pm

Typical

by GSC Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:41 pm

Pretty soft foul let alone a booking

by The Special Juan Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:44 pm

There's Rafael being a liability again. What a surprise Rolling Eyes

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:47 pm

there is a real buzz about united again. but rafael keeps that up they will be a man down..

by GSC Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:50 pm

Who would've thought Mata central with Rooney up top would be brighter than a half assed RVP

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:51 pm

beggars belief doesn't it..

by The Special Juan Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:01 pm

It's a sham Ashley Young gets credited with an assist for that goal.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:03 pm

Told you, we give teams goals in games like this

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:03 pm

gift goal- but a poachers one. he can play up front can rooney...

by Bull Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:20 pm

Kagawa is playing! Awesome.

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:22 pm

strange team- classic 4 4 1 1 but with players out of position. still looks a lot better than his normal set ups

by Guest Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:26 pm

What the fook is swazz?

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:29 pm

Hood talk for a power fade volley

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:58 pm

This has been a terrible game

by The Special Juan Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:25 pm

That was a good performance. It's one of the few times this season I can say the team looked totally in control, although it helped that West Ham were only slightly better than Arsenal today.

by westisbest Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:42 pm

Time for us tomorrow to put the boots on and smoke Stoke.

by Guest Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:57 pm

westisbest wrote:Time for us tomorrow to put the boots on and smoke Stoke.

I reckon you'll smoke Stoke but they aint no joke and they rough up folk, the pressure they soak, your attacks will be broke but as long as you don't choke and play fizzy like coke then you'll win ugly via a 5 yard toe poke.

Villa 1-0

by The Special Juan Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:02 pm

FreekShow wrote:
westisbest wrote:Time for us tomorrow to put the boots on and smoke Stoke.

I reckon you'll smoke Stoke but they aint no joke and they rough up folk, the pressure they soak, your attacks will be broke but as long as you don't choke and play fizzy like coke then you'll win ugly via a 5 yard toe poke.

Villa 1-0

Brap.

by Guest Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:05 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
westisbest wrote:Time for us tomorrow to put the boots on and smoke Stoke.

I reckon you'll smoke Stoke but they aint no joke and they rough up folk, the pressure they soak, your attacks will be broke but as long as you don't choke and play fizzy like coke then you'll win ugly via a 5 yard toe poke.

Villa 1-0

Crap.

Not my finest work granted Juan.

by westisbest Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:06 pm

The only thing Stoke will be is dire.
That Peter Crouch looks like a boy from the choir.

And Stephen Ireland, that lad is a liar.

The Villa boys are gonna be on fire.

Very Happy

by Guest Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:10 pm

Top man you are Westy thumbsup

by Guest Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:20 pm

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Mystioakey!

Christ, that WHU game was terrible, bar Rooney's magic moment. Tuesday should be a different matter.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:31 pm

man city will destroy united

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:42 pm

Thats allright John. Really gutting to lose in the last minute. but hey ho..

By the way that Game did literally send me to sleep... I hate sleeping in the day , makes me feel odd. Anyway yeah Citeh v united midweek. Gonna support the underdogs. And I think they may give them a game

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:43 pm

Not sure I've ever seen a better goal live than that Tettey strike, was sat right behind it. Oh my goodness me.

Brilliant today, we pressed them high, we attacked with creativity and we took the game to them. Just wish we would do this week in week out against the teams around us, then we'd be much higher because we're better than them (for me)

Oh and Jonny Howson is brilliant. If he hasn't got injured he'd be on that plane already

by Guest Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:45 pm

I think if you can maintain that 7 point cushion going into the last 4 games you'll be okay Olly.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:47 pm

FreekShow wrote:I think if you can maintain that 7 point cushion going into the last 4 games you'll be okay Olly.

From what I saw today we've got nothing to be worried about, Sunderland were absolute dogshite and they've got a horrific run of fixtures now.

I reckon 4 more points will be enough for safety for us. WBA home win and a point at Swansea next week. We'll lose to Fulham as per usual

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:49 pm

Also wish I followed my tips, 2 of 3 came in again Laugh

Sunderland were very dirty, Poyet side. Cattermole came on and within five minutes he was booked for dissent Laugh

by mystiroakey Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:50 pm

Yeah you are safe..

last spot between WBA, palace and sunderland

by Guest Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:53 pm

Olly wrote:Also wish I followed my tips, 2 of 3 came in again

Sunderland were very dirty, Poyet side. Cattermole came on and within five minutes he was booked for dissent

Unreal. You paid for my beer tonight, again

I'll have to make a note of your tips. Some strike rate you have.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:15 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:Also wish I followed my tips, 2 of 3 came in again

Sunderland were very dirty, Poyet side. Cattermole came on and within five minutes he was booked for dissent

Unreal. You paid for my beer tonight, again

I'll have to make a note of your tips. Some strike rate you have.

We're a very predictable side freeky!! Always happy to help the cause

Snodgrass has really stepped up last few weeks, love that man

by CFCNick Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:19 pm

socal1976 wrote:
kingraf wrote:I only logged in hoping that SoCal had already erupted - Someone PM me when the carnage begins... hopefully, CS is also logged on simultaneously - this could be the greatest threat in the history of the interweb

I doubt that KR, unfortunately since the 5-0 defeat at anfield I knew we weren't a team that could yet win the league. And today this result clearly demonstrated it. Wenger needs to figure out what is going on and get the team back to playing good football and win the FA cup. That is the only thing that can salvage the season. I hope this sends a signal to him and the board that we need to add real quality in the summer.

Not just quality but a plan b. Most top four teams wouldn't concede more than four in the situation Arsenal found themselves in today. The players need to learn how to shut up shop like Chelsea or City would.

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