Man of the match

Why do we have this if it is just going to be a political mouth piece for the pundits.

Coming up to the lions you could write who was going to be mom before the game as it was the political advertising campaign for their favourite player.

Now tonight Brian oD got mom tonight.

While I think it he is a great and will be missed, he was poor today and still gets it. This is not about bod but about the stupid pundits pushing their political favourites

It makes mom a joke and should be dropped as it insults our sensibilities

If he wins man of the series he better send the champers to Brown

Seriously...

This is what you have on your mind at 11:24 on a Saturday night?

You might be right - but I don't see many really caring...

Only just finished watching the matches, so for me it is super fast fast the game posting

Didn't Bastareaud get official motm? French TV would have picked it as it was a French game.

BOD was not poor you are an idiot (I cant say anymore as I would get banned)...end of discussion and good night.

Riskysports wrote:Why do we have this if it is just going to be a political mouth piece for the pundits.

Coming up to the lions you could write who was going to be mom before the game as it was the political advertising campaign for their favourite player.

Now tonight Brian oD got mom tonight.

While I think it  he is a great and will be missed, he was poor today and still gets it. This is not about bod but about the stupid pundits pushing their political favourites

It makes mom a joke and should be dropped as it insults our sensibilities

what has happened to rugby fans, it's fricking embarassing

ME-109 wrote:BOD was not poor you are an idiot (I cant say anymore as I would get banned)...end of discussion and good night.

Wow. Discussion consists of insults, thanks.

Missing the whole point of the past, but thanks for insulting me.

Was bod the best player yesterday. By a long way no.

That is why the political mom awards mean it is meaningless and just annoys people.

We should just drop it, as it serves no purpose except to give boasting power to some fans, who them trumpet it around. Forgetting it usually is just because the commentator is the players friend

When i heard yesterday that BOD was MOM. i thought it was a total joke. to be honest.

I know it was his last game, but please give man of the match to some one who deserved it. Basteru was a far far better player in my opinion than Bod was.

Sexton could have been MOTM in four of the games this year, I don't think he'll be chanting "one more year!"

O'Driscoll himself said his two man of the match awards were ridiculous. I think they just gave it to him as an excuse to role him out in front of the camera's and ask him how emotional it all is and hopefully get a few tears for the camera's.

He almost broke down at one point, but mostly kept a stiff upper lip.

Know a few people aren't taking this thread too seriously but I can't help agreeing despite myself. Though BOD's award yesterday probably wasn't the worst example, there have been some MOTM's I've seen over the years that were a complete joke and had no connection whatsoever on the course of the actual game. I'd rather just ditch it as a concept if it's going to be used as such. That or don't leave the decision to the whims of heart-over-head commentators like Jiffy, make it a fans' vote. To bring up one example, there is just no way in hell Jenkins was MOTM against France this year, he was given it more or less for the sake of his longevity.

Knowsit17 wrote:Know a few people aren't taking this thread too seriously but I can't help agreeing despite myself. Though BOD's award yesterday probably wasn't the worst example, there have been some MOTM's I've seen over the years that were a complete joke and had no connection whatsoever on the course of the actual game. I'd rather just ditch it as a concept if it's going to be used as such. That or don't leave the decision to the whims of heart-over-head commentators like Jiffy, make it a fans' vote. To bring up one example, there is just no way in hell Jenkins was MOTM against France this year, he was given it more or less for the sake of his longevity.

     Toataly agree 100%

Does it really matter? Aren't these things are pretty meaningless? Probably the most meaningful are players player awards, but they can be just a stupid as us/journalists/pundits/etc

MoM is a total irrelevance.In a team game I find the award an anathema.

MOTM is just another way to shoe-horn the sponsor's name into the proceedings.

I agree MOM is pointless, MOS though is not and should clearly go to Leigh Halfpenny

Scratch wrote:I agree MOM is pointless, MOS though is not and should clearly go to Leigh Halfpenny

    You are joking right?

If any deserves MOS it is Mike Brown.

Same with "World Player of the Year". How can you say a scrum half was better than a tighthead?

World 15 of the year would make much more sense in rugby. Plus it would give us an excuse to make more world 15 threads. We love making those lists.

Rugby is the ultimate team game, right?  Therefore, a man of the match award is contrary to what Rugby stands for.  

Halfpenny would not have had goals to kick unless his team wasn't putting on a lot of pressure causing those penalties.
Brown wouldn't have had kicks to field and yards to run if England were not playing good defense causing those kicks.
Sexton wouldn't have scored the 2 tries yesterday if his forwards weren't gaining the tough yardage to put him in position. Can one say with certainty that he was more effective than Henry who had 16 tackles?

Point being these guys did indeed play quite good.  But would they have done so without the other 14 blokes around them?  No.  It is a silly award.

majesticimperialman wrote:

Scratch wrote:I agree MOM is pointless, MOS though is not and should clearly go to Leigh Halfpenny

    You are joking right?

If any deserves MOS  it is Mike Brown.

   

doctor_grey wrote:Rugby is the ultimate team game, right?  Therefore, a man of the match award is contrary to what Rugby stands for.  

Halfpenny would not have had goals to kick unless his team wasn't putting on a lot of pressure causing those penalties.
Brown wouldn't have had kicks to field and yards to run if England were not playing good defense causing those kicks.
Sexton wouldn't have scored the 2 tries yesterday if his forwards weren't gaining the tough yardage to put him in position.  Can one say with certainty that he was more effective than Henry who had 16 tackles?  

Point being these guys did indeed play quite good.  But would they have done so without the other 14 blokes around them?  No.  It is a silly award.

+1

I don't mind man of the match because hopefully the person / people picking it are weighing up the roles of different positions and who excelled the most given their role. So, did the winger field balls well and finish good tries? Did the 12 create space for his 13 (taking the quality of the 10's service and forwards work into account)? Did the 6 put in a good tackling shift?

Obviously roles aren't so precise but hopefully you understand where I'm coming from.

Unfortunately people don't really pick on this basis, often awarding it to the person that obviously stood out (tryscorers, goalkickers, a few runs from a prop) because to an extent that's who the fans would probably pick anyway. They also tend to involve too much of the general story - this is BOD's last cap, Gray played really well considering he was dropped a week ago - none of which is actually relevant to man of the match where all should be held on level pegging from the first whistle and assessed only on the 80 minutes on the pitch.

I felt BOD getting it yesterday was horrendous, and so did he. If they wanted to interview him they could have just ... interviewed him. "Hey Brian, it's your last cap today, the fans are going to want to hear you speak. Irrelevant of a loss or win or how you particularly played, would you mind a quick 30 second interview after the match?". Seems fair to me and I doubt he would have said no.

I agree

BOD did not need to be put into that position - the whole MOM thing is such a shame

Coming up to the lions, it was just who the commentators wanted to go automatically got MOM (and they made that decision before the game even started)