Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[super_realist]

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Rugby players are too fat to catch us Davie.

[super_realist]

Mac will be in mourning. Bob Crow has snuffed it.

He did a great job for his union and if there were more out there like him, then all workers would benefit.  Only power in the workplace will provide us with true democracy.  

With his huge salary and two houses he really lived his values.

[beninho]

His job was getting the best for members of his union. And tube drivers in London have done very well recently. He didn't come across to me as likeable. But if I was in a union I would want him fighting my corner. What was is salary anyway? Was it huge?

[super_realist]

over 100k, not massive, but hardly living the socialist ideal.

[pedro]

over 100k, not massive, but hardly living the socialist ideal.

Make that 145k. Living in a council house.

[super_realist]

Council house? Really. He's as hypocritical as Bono then.
Someone deserving should have that.

[JAS]

Hang on...condemned because he lived in a council house. Condemned for not living by Socialist values. No doubt if he had lived in a mansion he'd be condemned for that too.

I didn't particularly like the bloke, had he been my union leader that might have been different. I don't think it's a particularly good thing for the left for Union leaders to be boorish loudmouth Bolshy gobshites but I suppose that goes with the territory. No doubt an intelligent, engaging, diplomatic and charismatic union leader would be viewed with mistrust and be condemned for being false too!!

[super_realist]

Jas, think you are missing the point. Earning a £145k does not necessitate a council house and subsidised rent from the tax payer.

In fact it's far worse for him to do that than live in a house he paid for with his salary. He's laughing at the less fortunate by A) Taking a home from someone who actually needs it and B) laughing at the taxpayer who are subsidising his rent, when he could actually get a mortgage for nearly 700k, or he could have if he wasn't dead.

[JAS]

No I'm not missing the point, who are we to dictate in a free democracy where a person should live and under what arrangement.

Are you saying there should be a law whereby once your earning tip past a certain point you you be ejected from a council house if that is where you live?

Maybe he still lived with his mum?

[super_realist]

Because Jas, council houses ought to be for those who require affordable housing, not those who earn 145k a year.
Why shoudn't there be a cut off?

He didn't need to live in a council house, and if was was as socially aware as what he portrayed he should have realised he was taking the home of someone more needy.

[MontysMerkin]

Ahhh super, you're such a softy, looking out for all those less well off. And normally you'd just want the tenants euthanised!

[super_realist]

Surprised Crow was never lynched by his neighbours.

[incontinentia]

Why would someone earning 140K a year want to live among the lumpen proletariat?

[super_realist]

Just heard about a woman getting jailed for microwaving her cat.   

[MontysMerkin]

Just read that there are 14000 lobbyists in London. Democracy? Pah!

"After comments by Mark Britnell, the head of health at accountancy giants KPMG giants and a former adviser of David Cameron, hit the headlines in May 2011 – Britnell told an investors' conference that "the NHS will be shown no mercy and the best time to take advantage of this will be in the next couple of years" "

[navyblueshorts]

Just heard about a woman getting jailed for microwaving her cat.   

I hope you're laughing at her stupidity rather than the idea of microwaving a cat...

Re. Crow and his house, I'm afraid to say I'm with you on that point. WTF was he given a council house for when he was earning that amount of dosh??????

[golfermartin]

He wasn't earning that sort of dosh when he was given it. He had been living there for years. When queried about it he said why should I be forced to move from the home I love because my wages have gone up? To be fair he has a point.

[super_realist]

He wasn't earning that sort of dosh when he was given it. He had been living there for years. When queried about it he said why should I be forced to move from the home I love because my wages have gone up? To be fair he has a point.

He shouldn't have been made to move, but he should have been required to make a compulsory purchase.
Why should taxpayers subsidise the rent of a man who could pay the value of the property in about 6 months salary?

Re Microwaved cat, yes, I was laughing at both the stupidity and the action. Obviously it's very cruel, but somehow it's a comical concept.

[beninho]

He was paying the full rent on his property, not claiming HB. If he had brought his property, then its removing it from housing stock. So in no ones interest.

But luckily for his family he did not buy it, as his wife and children can stay in accommodation without any concerns.

Microwaving a cat is not funny in anyway. But if thats what you find comical...you have very strange sense of humour.

[super_realist]

He was paying the full rent on his property, not claiming HB. If he had brought his property, then its removing it from housing stock. So in no ones interest.

But luckily for his family he did not buy it, as his wife and children can stay in accommodation without any concerns.

Microwaving a cat is not funny in anyway.  But if thats what you find comical...you have very strange sense of humour.

Full rent is still publically subsidised, renting a council property isn't the same as normal market value, hence subsidised and he was still taking it away from someone more deserving.

[incontinentia]

Re Microwaved cat, yes, I was laughing at both the stupidity and the action.  Obviously it's very cruel, but somehow it's a comical concept.

I thought it sounded funny too til read the news story, a truly disgusting act. Someone over here (in Ireland) shot an endangered Eagle some weeks ago(there are about 4 in the whole country and had been re-introduced). It subsequently died, although it had a broken leg and wing and took about 2 weeks. I don't understand the mindset of someone who would do that.

[JAS]

Kneecapping target practice on endangered eagles now...sheesh so much for the beneficial effects of the Peace Process :-O

[super_realist]

Re Microwaved cat, yes, I was laughing at both the stupidity and the action.  Obviously it's very cruel, but somehow it's a comical concept.

I thought it sounded funny too til read the news story, a truly disgusting act. Someone over here (in Ireland) shot an endangered Eagle some weeks ago(there are about 4 in the whole country and had been re-introduced). It subsequently died, although it had a broken leg and wing and took about 2 weeks. I don't understand the mindset of someone who would do that.

I'd rather a microwaved cat than a kneecapped Eagle.

Saw a Sea Eagle the other week flying over the golf course, hell of a sight.
Population reintroduced the other year from Norway.

[Davie]

There may not have been anything funny about the cruelty to the cat (though I hate them myself) .. but the headline was funny .. apparently she microwaved the cat because it ate her pet goldfish

Somethings you just can't make up

[super_realist]

There may not have been anything funny about the cruelty to the cat (though I hate them myself) .. but the headline was funny .. apparently she microwaved the cat because it ate her pet goldfish

Somethings you just can't make up

That's what I found funny, I wouldn't microwave a cat (though i'd happily shoot the feral ones)

Cats decimate the songbird population too. Horrbile creatures.

[dynamark]

Just bought a flat and found out that my neighbour has two cats hence the communal door is left open for their benefit.Not happy.Mr Crowe always sounded like a throwback to red Robbo
no offence but society has moved on surely

[super_realist]

I'm not a twitterer, but has anyone checked out  Golf Club W@nker on Twitter? The golf equivalent of Full Kit W@nker.

Some really funny and true observations.

[Davie]

Oscar Pistorius throws up in court again. He must be some kind of actor to be able to turn that on at will

[beninho]

Golf club wnkrs is pretty funny. Golf is so easy to lampoon. Tuck your shirt in...

[pedro]

Oscar Pistorius throws up in court again. He must be some kind of actor to be able to turn that on at will

Let's see who will win an Oscar then: Pistolius or a longing prison mate...  

[incontinentia]

Kneecapping target practice on endangered eagles now...sheesh so much for the beneficial effects of the Peace Process :-O

I don't think eagles have kneecaps  

[MontysMerkin]

The bird's knee is the joint between the thigh and the "drumstick" and is usually concealed by feathers in living birds. Many species have a kneecap or patella. Not sure about an eagle though.

[navyblueshorts]

...Cats decimate the songbird population too. Horrbile creatures.

Not so bad then if only 10% are taken out. It's an over-sold theory peddled by catophobes anyway.

[incontinentia]

super is phobic to many things- cats, Irishmen, kneecap smashers, the hypoteloristic, old people, young people, middle aged people etc

[MontysMerkin]

Think it would be a lot quicker to list what he does like! Very short list though. Reminds me of Frazer in Dads Army - we're all doomed!

[golfermartin]

...Cats decimate the songbird population too. Horrbile creatures.

Not so bad then if only 10% are taken out. It's an over-sold theory peddled by catophobes anyway.

My problem with cats is that they kill for fun. Magpies get a very bad press for taking chicks, but at least they do it to feed themselves / their young. Cats do it to give to their owners as presents - not normally appreciated.

[MontysMerkin]

Our cat caught a worm once. She was very proud of herself. But that's all she managed, at least so far.

[super_realist]

Our cat caught a worm once. She was very proud of herself. But that's all she managed, at least so far.

I'm not overly keen on cats, they do harm the bird population, even if Navy was being a pedant in regard to the literal, rather than colloquial meaning of "decimated".
I find those horrible little dogs like Llassa Apsahls etc to be much worse, they just seem so pointless and disgusting to look at.  Every time I see one I'm tempted to see just how far I could kick one.

[SmithersJones]

Cats - a = un.

Worst thing about that story was that despite the fact she has severe mental health issues, the demise of the cat was deemed sufficiently important to merit jailing her rather than helping her get treatment.

[beninho]

We don't do rehabilitation in this country it's all about punishment. If a vote was to reintroduce hanging or look to provide better rehabilitation then I think hanging would win.

[super_realist]

We don't do rehabilitation in this country it's all about punishment. If a vote was to reintroduce hanging or look to provide better rehabilitation then I think hanging would win.

Hanging for owning a cat? Seems fair to me.

[navyblueshorts]

...Cats decimate the songbird population too. Horrbile creatures.

Not so bad then if only 10% are taken out. It's an over-sold theory peddled by catophobes anyway.

My problem with cats is that they kill for fun. Magpies get a very bad press for taking chicks, but at least they do it to feed themselves / their young. Cats do it to give to their owners as presents - not normally appreciated.

Umm, nope. Cats kill because it's their evolutionary behaviour. I have two cats; one is the most pathetic hunter ever to grace the planet while the other is what I would call 'average' and she eats what she catches (less the crunchy bits that is....). A cat 'giving' their owner a kill is certainly part of their normal behaviour. It's not 'fun' in the sense that we would understand it.

[navyblueshorts]

I'm not overly keen on cats, they do harm the bird population, even if Navy was being a pedant in regard to the literal, rather than colloquial meaning of "decimated"....

Harm the bird population? Twaddle. So they kill a few. It's a bit naive to think that if they don't, there would suddenly be stacks more birds around. For one thing, the increased pressure on the food resource available would mean that a lot of the extra would either starve/be out competed or parents would simply not have offspring that they otherwise might due to cat kills.
I wasn't really being a pedant...just poking a little fun   .

[super_realist]

A few?...a few?

There are estimated to be approx 10m cats in the UK. If they kill just four birds a year, that would be 40million birds a year, even if they only killed 1 each it's still a staggering amount of birds.
Imagine there was something that killed 10million cats a year, there would be outrage

The bird population would be self regulating with fewer cats around as food of course would become scarce for some species. Though it seems improbable there isn't enough berries/worms for the likes of blackbirds, thrush, starling etc.

[golfermartin]

...Cats decimate the songbird population too. Horrbile creatures.

Not so bad then if only 10% are taken out. It's an over-sold theory peddled by catophobes anyway.

My problem with cats is that they kill for fun. Magpies get a very bad press for taking chicks, but at least they do it to feed themselves / their young. Cats do it to give to their owners as presents - not normally appreciated.

Umm, nope. Cats kill because it's their evolutionary behaviour. I have two cats; one is the most pathetic hunter ever to grace the planet while the other is what I would call 'average' and she eats what she catches (less the crunchy bits that is....). A cat 'giving' their owner a kill is certainly part of their normal behaviour. It's not 'fun' in the sense that we would understand it.

Cat's kill for no good reason (I didn't lierally mean "fun") although they do often play with the kill before delivering the "coup de gras". Big cats tend to be "dispatched" when they start on the human population, but that's just their "evolutionary behaviour". It's a poor excuse. Few other animals kill except for food.

[incontinentia]

I like cats, even though they are soulless, personality-less creatures.   

[beninho]

I'm no cat lover ...but I have no interest in birds. So let the 40m bird slaughter carry on. The vast majority are rubbish like magpies.

[golfermartin]

I'm no cat lover ...but I have no interest in birds. So let the 40m bird slaughter carry on. The vast majority are rubbish like magpies.

WUM

[super_realist]

Anyone seen the TM Mini-Driver @ 12 deg? Looks an interesting concept (like the Callaway Deep)
If it's as easy to hit and as good as my RBZ 3 Wood, and goes further, I'll be bagging one. Might be just the ticket to get my golf mojo back.

[pedro]

The vast majority are rubbish like magpies.

and that was even before the Alan Pardew incident and 'Geordie Shore'.

[pedro]

I'm sure the guy wasn't looking at the ball.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/13/playboy-playmate-liz-dickson-sues-golfer-tee/

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