Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

by super_realist Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:16 pm

First topic message reminder :

Rugby players are too fat to catch us Davie.

by Diggers Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:30 pm

Good point but all a bit late, knighthood for Mr Pulis!
Just watched Copa del Ray, good game, glad Real won. But Benzema, fantastic player but I don't think I've ever seen him pass.

by Roller_Coaster Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:41 am

[quote="kwinigolfer"]Digs,
When I win the lottery and buy PFC...quote]

I hope you get the three numbers you need Kwin!

by beninho Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:54 am

I didn't watch the classico but just seen bales goal. Superb. Can one match haveso many great players. Can't think of another that could rival it.

by mystiroakey Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:15 am

Roller_Coaster wrote:
kwinigolfer wrote:Digs,
When I win the lottery and buy PFC...quote]

I hope you get the three numbers you need Kwin!

by Diggers Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:43 am

beninho wrote:I didn't watch the classico but just seen bales goal. Superb. Can one match haveso many great players. Can't think of another that could rival it.

Perhaps the best of the lot on Ronaldo was missing.
Di Maria is great to watch, almost an old school winger but do quick and skilful.Having him and Bake and Ronaldo running at you can't be much fun.

by dynamark Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:15 pm

Evening all good game to say the least.getting a nosebleed here in Leicester.
Look out for Rihad Mahrez in the prem next year picked him up for about 400k from france
lovely player strong two feet and tricks for fun.Spoke to a Man u season ticket holder last night who had sent a letter asking for his ticket to be suspended until moyes is gone.

by mystiroakey Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:32 pm

sounds amzing Dyno!

However

look mate- I am a palace fan and certain players that need to be protected couldn't retain there place in the PL(players like williams for instance had to be loaned although he is one of our brightest talents ), same thing has happened to ince and gayle- they cant get a game

3 talents with great technical ability that a promoted team may not be able to play due to them needing to do so much more than just float about and try and get forward

by Diggers Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:34 pm

Strewth, would you Adam and Eve it.

by kwinigolfer Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:41 pm

Well done Digs, They even deserved it!
And could just as easily have got a point at Anfield a couple of weeks ago. Incredible.
Bournemouth fumble.
Pompey flourish.
PUP

by Diggers Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:45 pm

So if we win our game in hand out of the bottom 3 on goal difference (if Liverpool beat Norwich tomorrow that is), next up Cardiff at the SOL, genuine 6 pointer.
Best thing about today is hopefully denying Terry and co another title medal. Happy day.

by Diggers Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:50 pm

About 6 teams still with a chance of that final playoff spot Kwini, Forest and Watford back on it. Ipswich-Bpurnemouth next week, big game.

by kwinigolfer Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:51 pm

Hopefully the FA will have a look at Ramires's arm across Larson's face and ban his arse into next season.
About the nastiest piece of work in football.

by Diggers Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:57 pm

Yeah that was very cynical, it was probably a foul by Larsson to stop him scoring a minute earlier, but that's no excuse.

by mystiroakey Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:02 pm

sweet result for you.. your gd may keep you up!!

palace 5 wins in the trott...... wtf

by Diggers Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:08 pm

Rodgers or Pulis manager of the year for me really.

by mystiroakey Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:50 am

yep between the two..

Hating all this spygate stuff coming out though!

by mystiroakey Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:24 am

Westy wins- Knew he was back on track- the masters come a week or two early...

by kwinigolfer Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:47 pm

6 words I never thought I'd write:
Pompey stay in the Football League.

Three months of Richie Barker managing more like Ronnie Barker was almost enough to see us gonners, but thank goodness for Sir Andrew Awford - if they'd appointed him a month earlier we'd be in the play-off places by now.

by incontinentia Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:21 pm

Westwood would play in the Workshop Sunday stableford if it counted towards his owgr points

by mystiroakey Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:27 pm

yawn. still pipping up over him, even though he finished 7th then smashed a field including ousty and coulsarts.

just admit you were wrong and move on thumbsup

by pedro Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:24 pm

incontinentia wrote:Westwood would play in the Workshop Sunday stableford if it counted towards his owgr points

But the field would probably be stronger than most of the tournaments he plays in.

by mystiroakey Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:26 pm

like the masters pedro?

you lot are supposedly golf fans- your lack of knowledge is quite depressing lads.

by incontinentia Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:40 pm

Westwood did well at the masters, as did Larry Mize

by Diggers Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:16 pm

Westwood needed a win, isn't it well over a year since his last one? Even the best need to know they can still do the job.
I think that's 41 career wins for Lee, the funny thing about his career for me is that pre slump he win for fun but didn't do a great deal in the majors, post slump great form in the majors, massively consistent, but overall has found wins a lot harder to come by, at any level really.
Just a shame that nerveless win for fun attitude and great majors game never had a real overlap.

by pedro Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:27 pm

Heard of irony, mysti? I happen to be a Westwood fan, but fact is that a large proportion of his wins have been in mediocre tournaments.

by Diggers Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:17 pm

Moyes gone, no big shocker really. Big boots to fill and since day one he has looked a bit tentative, doesn't help when a few of your key players all seem to age at the same time plus RVP goes back to being a sick note.

by GunsGerms Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:53 pm

Diggers wrote:Moyes gone, no big shocker really. Big boots to fill and since day one he has looked a bit tentative, doesn't help when a few of your key players all seem to age at the same time plus RVP goes back to being a sick note.

Moyes is just the fall guy for a club with no contingency plan and sub par players. ManUs league position isnt that far off where they should be with the players they have is it?

by Diggers Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:00 pm

Well as has been said many times, those same sub par players won the league at a canter last year. Its one serious drop off in form, and he's had money to spend. Fellani was a truly shocking buy for Man Utd, they needed specialist strength in a few key positions and he cost a fortune and gives none of that, awful, awful bit of business. I like Mata but Moyes is struggling to get the best out of him.
I think Moyes has to take his fair share of the blame personally.

by kwinigolfer Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:21 pm

You could go through the top 22 players at Old Trafford and find it difficult to come up with half a dozen names who have a future at Man Utd.
I'd offer :
De Gea
Phil Jones (but he's got to stop being so accident-prone, a set position would help)
Rooney
Van Persie (if he can get fit and motivated again)
Januzaj (but would help if he wasn't so chronically one-footed)
Mata

But the rest are either too old (however fine a player they might have been) or are never going to improve. Some would add Welbeck but don't see much point in a striker that can't strike.
Guys like Kagawa, Evans, Powell, Cleverley, Hernandez, Valencia, even Smalling, could continue as roll-players, but most will be looking for new teams.

Priority 1). for me would be two athletic full-backs (a la Coleman & Shaw) and a dominating centre-half, build from the back.

No point in having blue-chip mid-fielders if the foundation still leaks.

by Davie Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:49 pm

Giggs as interim manager ...

I heard he was offered it full time but he turned it down as he wanted to spend more time with his brother's family drumroll

by pedro Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:05 pm

And van Gaal after the World Cup they say. I guess Hodgson will also be available by then.

by GunsGerms Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:07 pm

Carlos Quieroz

by super_realist Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:20 pm

ALways found it funny that people care so deeply about something they don't even take part in.

by GunsGerms Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:29 pm

super_realist wrote:ALways found it funny that people care so deeply about something they don't even take part in.

Me too. Cant stand English football. Problem is half of Ireland wont shut up about it like it is actually important or something.

by incontinentia Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:47 pm

Yes, its always funny when some guy from Ireland with absolutely no affiliation to Liverpool uses "we" when referring to them.

by GunsGerms Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:50 pm

incontinentia wrote:Yes, its always funny when some guy from Ireland with absolutely no affiliation to Liverpool uses "we" when referring to them.

Agreed or when they sign Liverpool songs down the pub with a scouse accent. Embarassing.

by pedro Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:04 pm

ManU have more fans outside the UK than inside.

Some clubs also hardly have English players on the team.

I think it's a bit of a anachronistic view that you can't be fan of a club without being from that area. Just as being from Manchester you absolutely have to hate the other team. Silly.

IMO you can be from a city and cheer both/all teams just as you can be from abroad and cheer any team you like.

You guys just travel to Asia and you will see hardcore fans of EPL teams. I'm sure they can be just as passionate as the geezer down the pub.

by GunsGerms Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:27 pm

pedro wrote:ManU have more fans outside the UK than inside.

Some clubs also hardly have English players on the team.

I think it's a bit of a anachronistic view that you can't be fan of a club without being from that area. Just as being from Manchester you absolutely have to hate the other team. Silly.

IMO you can be from a city and cheer both/all teams just as you can be from abroad and cheer any team you like.

You guys just travel to Asia and you will see hardcore fans of EPL teams. I'm sure they can be just as passionate as the geezer down the pub.

Thats all very well but still no clue why anyone would want to support ManU or any other English team for that matter.

Irish fans spend a billion Euros per anumn supporting English teams. What a waste, none of that goes back to our communities in any way!! Imagine how good football would be in Ireland if that money was better spent on clubs that actually have a vested interest in communities in Ireland? Isnt that a big part of what sport is about?

Its not like the Premier league is a particularly good product anyway, its just agressively well marketed.

I hope Liverpool lose the league just to annoy the Irish fans who try to justify the dole money they spend on supporting Liverpool in the false belief that Liverpool is somehow intrinsically liked to Ireland.

by kwinigolfer Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:35 pm

Guns,
It would be healthy for all British Isles football if there was more cash invested in Scotland & Ireland; very telling, in fact, that the lion's share of the big bucks invested anywhere in the British Isles is from overseas.
There's a bubble there, "irrational exuberance" if you like, that will burst in England unless football finds a way to reconnect with its roots.
Hopefully PFC can lead the way with its Community initiative, the Green Bay Packers of English football.

by MontysMerkin Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:05 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
pedro wrote:ManU have more fans outside the UK than inside.

Some clubs also hardly have English players on the team.

I think it's a bit of a anachronistic view that you can't be fan of a club without being from that area. Just as being from Manchester you absolutely have to hate the other team. Silly.

IMO you can be from a city and cheer both/all teams just as you can be from abroad and cheer any team you like.

You guys just travel to Asia and you will see hardcore fans of EPL teams. I'm sure they can be just as passionate as the geezer down the pub.

Thats all very well but still no clue why anyone would want to support ManU or any other English team for that matter.

Irish fans spend a billion Euros per anumn supporting English teams. What a waste, none of that goes back to our communities in any way!! Imagine how good football would be in Ireland if that money was better spent on clubs that actually have a vested interest in communities in Ireland? Isnt that a big part of what sport is about?

Its not like the Premier league is a particularly good product anyway, its just agressively well marketed.

I hope Liverpool lose the league just to annoy the Irish fans who try to justify the dole money they spend on supporting Liverpool in the false belief that Liverpool is somehow intrinsically liked to Ireland.

Wow, the Irish must be well stupid. Run

by GunsGerms Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:11 pm

Completely and wholeheartedly agree.

Why would anyone group of people routinely and collectively invest massive portions of their disposable income in something and expect absolutely nothing tangable in return?

by incontinentia Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:09 pm

Not stupid so much as suggestible, vacillating, slovenly, credulous, niggardly, servile and frothing at the gash.

by Diggers Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:47 pm

Depends what you mean by tangible really. Is pleasure tangible? You could pay a tenner a month to watch PGA golf, where is the tangible return on that?
Some people are obsessed by football, way over the top. But some peoples weeks are ruined if they shoot an 88 rather than a 86 in their weekly friendly golf match.
It's all horses for courses.

by super_realist Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:56 pm

pedro wrote:ManU have more fans outside the UK than inside.

Some clubs also hardly have English players on the team.

I think it's a bit of a anachronistic view that you can't be fan of a club without being from that area. Just as being from Manchester you absolutely have to hate the other team. Silly.

IMO you can be from a city and cheer both/all teams just as you can be from abroad and cheer any team you like.

You guys just travel to Asia and you will see hardcore fans of EPL teams. I'm sure they can be just as passionate as the geezer down the pub.

THey aren't really fans though are they? Well in the "fanatic/obsessive" definition yes, but they are closer to sycophants, glory hunters and armchair tv viewers than actual supporters. Surely you need at least some link to the club to have a connection, otherwise you might as well stick a pin in a map.

I also find the possessive "us", "we" in relation to the club they support somewhat embarrassing too. I saw someone on another thread saying "We" (meaning Man United) made a terrible error when "we" appointed Moyes".

You didn't have anything to do with it.

by Diggers Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:06 pm

Of course they are fans. Who cares why they decided to care, as long as the giving a monkeys remains constant then they are a "fan" as far as I'm concerned.
You always say there's no reason to tied to or be supportive of Scotland just because you were born there.

by super_realist Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:16 pm

That doesn't mean I jump to the support of another nation to which I have zero connection. I choose not to support Scotland precisely because I don't have much affinity with them, even though I have the tenuous link of being born there, which is usually a minimum requirement, or "my dad supported them" or my "grandad was born there"

It's not that I don't consider them "supporters", it's more that it seems credulous how they claim to have a love for something they have absolutely no connection with.
Who wakes up and says "I'm going to be a United, Arsenal, LIverpool etc fan today"? bet they wear their kit down the shops too.

by Diggers Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:26 pm

Some people come from families with no football connection. It could be the first match they saw and remembered, or that a player they loved watching played for the club.
All these reasons are valid, you can live in Timbuktu and still chat to fellow supporters online. At the end of the day..who cares. If someone gets pleasure from supporting a team then why is that in any way a bad thing?

by super_realist Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:54 pm

Reminds me of Mac. Anything that has at one point been successful he's on the bandwagon before you can shout "gloryhunter", desperate for a bit of reflected glory.

I wonder how many Rochdale fans there are in Laos? First game they saw? Or is it more about being a glory hunter?

by beninho Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:47 pm

I'm a Wycombe fan. I really wish I wasn't. Bloody rubbish and likely to be non league again. Little junior Ben is likely to be brought up a stoke fan like it's mother's side! We will tell if it's born feet first..

Anyway thinking of a little trip to the Scottish highlands. Not something to walky as the wife is getting fat, but thinking nairn or Elgin. Any Scots on here been their or gave advise or recommendations??

by pedro Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:50 pm

s_r you keep on cheering for the scandi golfers. First golfers you saw?

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