Joe Schmidt responds to Denis Leamy's parochial rant!!

by GunsGerms Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:16 am

First topic message reminder :

Leamy's article prior to the Ireland game in which he claimed there was a Leinster bias which could harm our WC chances:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/denis-leamy-questions-schmidt-selection-30091421.html

Schmidts response:
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/joe-schmidt-denies-having-a-leinster-bias-1.1729932

“For me, I select Irish players. If people want to differentiate, if people want to divide that provincially, that’s their prerogative,” he said. “But, as a group, we’re just trying to select the Irish national team. If people are going to be distracted by provincial loyalties, then that is something that is certainly not happening within the group.

“I think there has been a super unity within the group. It is probably always disappointing to get criticised. I can totally understand the perception. But, what I can totally guarantee is that we have all the stats, we watch all the games and we try to do as much homework as we possibly can.”

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:52 am

Nos na Gaoithe wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
Munster good and great means raw materials there for Ireland to be good and great...

...But me - my 'club/Province' when I was growing up was Ireland, back before the sheen of Professionalism and slick Sky HECs - it still is my 'Province'. Leinster is but small change to the emotions I give to Ireland.

Well said SF.

Have been saying this for years... but it never seems to get through the scepticism of many people. Despite my love for Leinster... it pales by comparison to my love of seeing players from one end of Ireland to the other putting last week's battles aside and coming together for a passionate team fight.

I have always been an Ireland fan first a Leinster fan second too. I love Leinster because I have played rugby in Leinster for various different Leinster clubs over the years and even been to Leinster games as early as the early 90s (v NZ) but my rugby budget goes towards six nations games every year. You simply cannot compare with Ireland games.

by Nos na Gaoithe Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:02 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
I have always been an Ireland fan first a Leinster fan second too. I love Leinster because I have played rugby in Leinster for various different Leinster clubs over the years and even been to Leinster games as early as the early 90s (v NZ) but my rugby budget goes towards six nations games every year. You simply cannot compare with Ireland games.

Ditto (at under-age level) and ditto.

I also represented Leinster and Ireland in two separate (smaller) sports - well Ireland only in one of them. And for me the excitement rose precisely with the inclusion of my former opponent players in each higher level representative team (from club to provincial to higher provincial to country). It was exactly what made it special.

by thebandwagonsociety Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:02 pm

Nos na Gaoithe wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
Munster good and great means raw materials there for Ireland to be good and great...

...But me - my 'club/Province' when I was growing up was Ireland, back before the sheen of Professionalism and slick Sky HECs - it still is my 'Province'. Leinster is but small change to the emotions I give to Ireland.

Well said SF.

Have been saying this for years... but it never seems to get through the scepticism of many people. Despite my love for Leinster... it pales by comparison to my love of seeing players from one end of Ireland to the other putting last week's battles aside and coming together for a passionate team fight. My late father was a true blue Dub who loved Munster and they were the only team in his life (beyond the Dubs) that he travelled far and abroad to support. To many on here he would no doubt be a blow-in Lunster. He felt something similar - if less devoted - for Clare in hurling. Sport should be something to take us out of ourselves and our insular experiences. This site often makes you despair in that regard.

The linking of sports to a sort of genetic nationalist politics and localism is a real scourge. It's a complete displacement of what's important about it - and I think you're right to link it with the 'spectacularisation' and 'consumerisation' of rugby like soccer and other sports. There is a vicious circle where media hysteria produces nationalist hysterics.

Sport should no doubt be all about local development and local representation. But that doesn't necessarily need to make every statement a one-eyed one - or every selection a matter of political scandal. And the ironic fact is, that the more the nationalist/localist hysterics take over and are fueled by media coverage and money... the more the game becomes less about local development and representation. For the moment professional rugby in Ireland is just about keeping all ten fingers and thumbs in the dyke in that regard.

Great post.. I'd go so far to suggest this could be the best post of the year.

by **Notch** Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:06 pm

Great post Nos Na Gaoithe

by SecretFly Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:27 pm

Hey!!! Let's not go overboard here.... I have a game I'm going to on Saturday that I want to be a humdinger! Let's wait until after the game before yis all want to share rooms and shower towels! Wink

Let me add to the list then, when I get serious - Well said indeed, Nos Na Gaoithe.

It'll probably get a few 'Bah Humbugs' from one or two Provincial purists but 606 wouldn't exist without the eternal dissenters either.

by **Notch** Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:42 pm

Interesting mixed messages in the article from Thornley in the Irish Times;

Irish Times wrote:Perhaps it is true that players from Leinster are more familiar with Schmidt’s methods and thus better equipped to execute them. Hence, Anthony Foley was surely on the money when this vexed matter was brought up before Ireland’s penultimate game at home to Italy by Matt Cooper on Today FM, and the current assistant Munster coach diplomatically ventured that more Munster players would work their way into Joe Schmidt’s thinking the more they worked under him.

Nevertheless when asked whether the contrasting representation might be mentioned in the build-up to this coming Saturday’s Aviva sell-out between Leinster and Munster, Foley paused and said tellingly: “I’d be disappointed if it had to be.”

Following their patchy and unconvincing win at home to Treviso, Rob Penney sought to tap into the Munster zeitgeist by billing this Saturday’s game as: “It is basically Munster playing the Six Nations champions.”

I'm with Anthoney Foley on this. The importance of this game should be motivation enough... Penneys antics just reflect badly on him.

by ME-109 Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:58 pm

Notch wrote:Interesting mixed messages in the article from Thornley in the Irish Times;

Irish Times wrote:Perhaps it is true that players from Leinster are more familiar with Schmidt’s methods and thus better equipped to execute them. Hence, Anthony Foley was surely on the money when this vexed matter was brought up before Ireland’s penultimate game at home to Italy by Matt Cooper on Today FM, and the current assistant Munster coach diplomatically ventured that more Munster players would work their way into Joe Schmidt’s thinking the more they worked under him.

Nevertheless when asked whether the contrasting representation might be mentioned in the build-up to this coming Saturday’s Aviva sell-out between Leinster and Munster, Foley paused and said tellingly: “I’d be disappointed if it had to be.”

Following their patchy and unconvincing win at home to Treviso, Rob Penney sought to tap into the Munster zeitgeist by billing this Saturday’s game as: “It is basically Munster playing the Six Nations champions.”

I'm with Anthoney Foley on this. The importance of this game should be motivation enough... Penneys antics just reflect badly on him.

Yet you ignore Kearney, Gibbes etc... Doh

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:03 pm

Classy operator Foley. Its no surprise he is held in such high regard by all.

by Sin é Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:06 pm

Notch wrote:Interesting mixed messages in the article from Thornley in the Irish Times;

Irish Times wrote:Perhaps it is true that players from Leinster are more familiar with Schmidt’s methods and thus better equipped to execute them. Hence, Anthony Foley was surely on the money when this vexed matter was brought up before Ireland’s penultimate game at home to Italy by Matt Cooper on Today FM, and the current assistant Munster coach diplomatically ventured that more Munster players would work their way into Joe Schmidt’s thinking the more they worked under him.

Nevertheless when asked whether the contrasting representation might be mentioned in the build-up to this coming Saturday’s Aviva sell-out between Leinster and Munster, Foley paused and said tellingly: “I’d be disappointed if it had to be.”

Following their patchy and unconvincing win at home to Treviso, Rob Penney sought to tap into the Munster zeitgeist by billing this Saturday’s game as: “It is basically Munster playing the Six Nations champions.”

I'm with Anthoney Foley on this. The importance of this game should be motivation enough... Penneys antics just reflect badly on him.

I think Axel's response went over your head Notch angel

by ME-109 Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:06 pm

GunsGerms wrote:Classy operator Foley. Its no surprise he is held in such high regard by all.

Smart lad....about time the Limerick side brought something to the table other than lots of brawn and no brains.

by Sin é Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:09 pm

Rob Kearney: Let's show why Leinster dominated Ireland team

"I think if you don't use something like that to fire you up and use it to your advantage, there is something a little bit wrong with you," the Louth man said.

"I have no doubt they will use that. There's no doubt that we've things to prove as well... that there was such a strong Leinster contingent there. We have to show why. It is a double-edged sword."

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/rabodirect-pro12/rob-kearney-lets-show-why-leinster-dominated-ireland-team-30121544.html

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:16 pm

That was posted already Sinners. Kearney is a real bore anyway so I wouldnt get too excited about it.

by thebandwagonsociety Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:30 pm

It's the epitome of lazy journalism. Fall back on the stereotypical sh!te, throw the questions to both sides. If someone responds to it then great, turn it into a story. If someone doesn't respond to it then great, it's a story that they are trying to keep under wraps.

Where is the prep and analysis of the actual game? What will be the tactics? How do the tight-five compare? Who will come out on top in the breakdown battle? Will Keatley or JJ start at 10, will it be Jimmy or Madigan? What tactical advantages and weaknesses are there in the backlines? These are questions that should warrant some journalistic insight. But instead the papers just churn out the usual tripe.

by ME-109 Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:32 pm

That doesnt sell papers...

by SecretFly Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:32 pm

Let me get this right.......some people think that the game will have no baggage, that it'll be just another Pro12 game and that none of the players will be thinking about 6N whilst planning for it?

Disappointed in all of you who might think that or indeed hope that it turns out to be so. This is one of the great Derby rivalries in world rugby...there is always disgruntled stuff and backbiting files, and cardboard boxes full of things that need to be sorted and dealt with.

Kearney the bore is being honest...Foley the Flipper is being deliciously disingenuous and slyly ironic.... and who would have it any other way? We don't want humdrum between these two - we want them either licking a wound or strutting like peacocks.

by ME-109 Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:35 pm

SecretFly wrote:Let me get this right.......some people think that the game will have no baggage, that it'll be just another Pro12 game and that none of the players will be thinking about 6N whilst planning for it?

Disappointed in all of you who might think that or indeed hope that it turns out to be so. This is one of the great Derby rivalries in world rugby...there is always disgruntled stuff and backbiting files, and cardboard boxes full of things that need to be sorted and dealt with.

Kearney the bore is being honest...Foley the Flipper is being deliciously disingenuous and slyly ironic.... and who would have it any other way? We don't want humbrum between these two - we want them either licking a wound or strutting like peacocks.

Apparently that affects some peoples sensibilities...

by Mickado Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:37 pm

thebandwagonsociety wrote:It's the epitome of lazy journalism. Fall back on the stereotypical sh!te, throw the questions to both sides. If someone responds to it then great, turn it into a story. If someone doesn't respond to it then great, it's a story that they are trying to keep under wraps.

Where is the prep and analysis of the actual game? What will be the tactics? How do the tight-five compare? Who will come out on top in the breakdown battle? Will Keatley or JJ start at 10, will it be Jimmy or Madigan? What tactical advantages and weaknesses are there in the backlines? These are questions that should warrant some journalistic insight. But instead the papers just churn out the usual tripe.

Agreed, there's an article on The Score with the headline

"Munster’s meagre Six Nations representation not Leinster’s problem"

The article contains no such quote or intimation.

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:38 pm

I noticed that too. The journal isnt exactly a great online media source.

The headline is correct though, it isnt Leinster's problem. This match has nothing to do with the six nations anyway. God I hope Leinster trounce Munster.

by Mickado Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:39 pm

GunsGerms wrote:I noticed that too. The journal isnt exactly a great online media source.

The headline is correct though, it isnt Leinster's problem. This match has nothing to do with the six nations anyway. God I hope Leinster trounce Munster.

Murray Kinsella's analysis is always well worth a read/watch. But in general, I'd agree.

by ME-109 Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:42 pm

GunsGerms wrote:I noticed that too. The journal isnt exactly a great online media source.

The headline is correct though, it isnt Leinster's problem. This match has nothing to do with the six nations anyway. God I hope Leinster trounce Munster.

You didnt care last week Guns...change of heart?

by wolfball Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:46 pm

thebandwagonsociety wrote:
Nos na Gaoithe wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
Munster good and great means raw materials there for Ireland to be good and great...

...But me - my 'club/Province' when I was growing up was Ireland, back before the sheen of Professionalism and slick Sky HECs - it still is my 'Province'. Leinster is but small change to the emotions I give to Ireland.

Well said SF.

Have been saying this for years... but it never seems to get through the scepticism of many people. Despite my love for Leinster... it pales by comparison to my love of seeing players from one end of Ireland to the other putting last week's battles aside and coming together for a passionate team fight. My late father was a true blue Dub who loved Munster and they were the only team in his life (beyond the Dubs) that he travelled far and abroad to support. To many on here he would no doubt be a blow-in Lunster. He felt something similar - if less devoted - for Clare in hurling. Sport should be something to take us out of ourselves and our insular experiences. This site often makes you despair in that regard.

The linking of sports to a sort of genetic nationalist politics and localism is a real scourge. It's a complete displacement of what's important about it - and I think you're right to link it with the 'spectacularisation' and 'consumerisation' of rugby like soccer and other sports. There is a vicious circle where media hysteria produces nationalist hysterics.

Sport should no doubt be all about local development and local representation. But that doesn't necessarily need to make every statement a one-eyed one - or every selection a matter of political scandal. And the ironic fact is, that the more the nationalist/localist hysterics take over and are fueled by media coverage and money... the more the game becomes less about local development and representation. For the moment professional rugby in Ireland is just about keeping all ten fingers and thumbs in the dyke in that regard.

Great post.. I'd go so far to suggest this could be the best post of the year.

Agreed. Great post. Though I will say, that my father, god rest his soul, used was a big GAA man, ran the local club in Mayo etc. And he had been all over the world, and always said (with a twinkle in his eye) - Son, I don't have a problem with any race or religion or country - except for those pr1cks from Davitts...

Irish tribalism is so engrained at the parish level, I think the newer generations need to be brought up loving Irish rugby first and province/club/school secondary, and mayeb we can reduce some of the insane provincial bickering that has occurred... I mean its actually gotten WORSE since we won the championship...

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:49 pm

ME-109 wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:I noticed that too. The journal isnt exactly a great online media source.

The headline is correct though, it isnt Leinster's problem. This match has nothing to do with the six nations anyway. God I hope Leinster trounce Munster.

You didnt care last week Guns...change of heart?

Its hard to care when we have just won the 6 nations. Nothing comes close in importance to that for me.

It would be nice to trounce Munster as looking at the two sides Leinster should really be good enough to do that but it wont really effect me too much either way.

by Sin é Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:03 pm

Wolf, Matt O'Connor laments the lack of tribalism in the SH clubs. He thinks its great up here (in NH). It gets bums on seats.

I worry about these games as something always goes wrong (injury, citing etc) that will rule someone you need over the next while. In fairness though, Matt O'Connor is unlikely to go running to the media to get a Munster player cited (like Schmidt did to POC last year).

by wolfball Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:08 pm

Sin é wrote:Wolf, Matt O'Connor laments the lack of tribalism in the SH clubs. He thinks its great up here (in NH). It gets bums on seats.

I worry about these games as something always goes wrong (injury, citing etc) that will rule someone you need over the next while. In fairness though, Matt O'Connor is unlikely to go running to the media to get a Munster player cited (like Schmidt did to POC last year).

Tribalism will never be eliminated from the Irish psyche. I am merely saying that for at least a week or two after winning only the 2 or 3rd championship of most of our lives, we can actually be united. Sin you know yourself a little bit I hope and realise that you are one of the worst for finding controversy and tribalism where none exists. Sure other provinces do it on here (not connacht as i'm the only one left i think Wink

) but you have a responsibility to govern yourself and tone down some of the madder allegations against the irish team.

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:15 pm

Sin é wrote:Wolf, Matt O'Connor laments the lack of tribalism in the SH clubs. He thinks its great up here (in NH). It gets bums on seats.

I worry about these games as something always goes wrong (injury, citing etc) that will rule someone you need over the next while. In fairness though, Matt O'Connor is unlikely to go running to the media to get a Munster player cited (like Schmidt did to POC last year).

Its usually a Munster player that gets cited so maybe Penney and Munster fans should focus on their teams dicipline rather than what Leinster's coach does or says after the game.

Kearney was in hospital overnight after the match. Of course Schmidt called for a citing, any good coach would have. It was a serious incident.

by SecretFly Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:19 pm

Sin é wrote:Wolf, Matt O'Connor laments the lack of tribalism in the SH clubs. He thinks its great up here (in NH). It gets bums on seats.

I worry about these games as something always goes wrong (injury, citing etc) that will rule someone you need over the next while. In fairness though, Matt O'Connor is unlikely to go running to the media to get a Munster player cited (like Schmidt did to POC last year).

POC "I didn't deserve a citing" - and sticks by it.
Schmidt "I think POC did deserve a citing" - and sticks by it.

I hear POC needed an Alliance Party member from the North to run between his part of the field and Schmidt's to allow the two of them to communicate with each other during training.

POC: "Tell that little runt to put on some tracksuit bottoms. He isn't fooling nobody and always complains about the cold anyway. Tell him it takes more than two pale bare chicken sticks to prove he knows what he's talking about on the field"

Schmidt: "Tell that big stubbleheaded idiot to release the waitress from the choke tackle, we're not on the training field now.... he's two hours late trying it and maybe next time he'll cop on to what I asked him to do earlier in the move"

by ME-109 Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:29 pm

OMG all the Mother Teresa's are out in force. Ah shure lets stop all this parochialism in Oirish Rugby and all love each other... Hug

. What a load of shiite. Seems like Notchs High Horse is getting over crowded.

Its a discussion board on Irish Rugby....It was Guns who posted the article (its a good discussion point - so what)...

Its turning into the Stepford wives on here.....bland and beige...

I miss the time when the Cork and Limerick crowd were at each other over the selection for the Munster team...it used to be great banter...

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:32 pm

Why do Cork people love falling out with people so much? Why is everyone so moody in Cork Dod?

by ME-109 Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:33 pm

GunsGerms wrote:Why do Cork people love falling out with people so much? Why is everyone so moody in Cork Dod?

Whose moody...life is great...

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:34 pm

You are. Never happy, typical gumpy old Cork man.

by SecretFly Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:34 pm

It's that Famous Fishman...he sells dodgy fish...and dodgy fish irritates stomach linings.

I blame the Queen. Everybody in Cork now seems to get all their fish from that one man. Wink

by ME-109 Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:43 pm

GunsGerms wrote:You are. Never happy, typical gumpy old Cork man.

Its because of our quest for perfection...the rest of the nation should try to keep up...

Here less of the old...

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:45 pm

Haha.

by **Notch** Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:51 pm

ME-109 wrote:
Notch wrote:Interesting mixed messages in the article from Thornley in the Irish Times;

Irish Times wrote:Perhaps it is true that players from Leinster are more familiar with Schmidt’s methods and thus better equipped to execute them. Hence, Anthony Foley was surely on the money when this vexed matter was brought up before Ireland’s penultimate game at home to Italy by Matt Cooper on Today FM, and the current assistant Munster coach diplomatically ventured that more Munster players would work their way into Joe Schmidt’s thinking the more they worked under him.

Nevertheless when asked whether the contrasting representation might be mentioned in the build-up to this coming Saturday’s Aviva sell-out between Leinster and Munster, Foley paused and said tellingly: “I’d be disappointed if it had to be.”

Following their patchy and unconvincing win at home to Treviso, Rob Penney sought to tap into the Munster zeitgeist by billing this Saturday’s game as: “It is basically Munster playing the Six Nations champions.”

I'm with Anthoney Foley on this. The importance of this game should be motivation enough... Penneys antics just reflect badly on him.

Yet you ignore Kearney, Gibbes etc...

Why, what have they been saying?

by SecretFly Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:55 pm

They've been saying .......................... well it isn't printable. Provincial anti-Munster stuff.

by **Notch** Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:05 pm

Is it;

Jono Gibbes wrote:Look, I really don't know if I really believe all that stuff. Rob Penney is stirring it a little bit.

Look at what they have done this year: they have got a home quarter-final, they've only lost three games, they're off the top of the league by two points – I don't know if they need all the peripheral stuff talked about by us.

and

Rob Kearney wrote:I think if you don't use something like that to fire you up and use it to your advantage, there is something a little bit wrong with you.

I have no doubt they will use that. There's no doubt that we've things to prove as well... that there was such a strong Leinster contingent there. We have to show why. It is a double-edged sword.

Because I'm not really sure what else they are going to say when Penneys comments are put to them tbh. If that makes me sound one-sided to you so be it.

Foleys comment didn't go over my head. He wouldn't be a proper Munster coach if he wasn't using this behind the scenes to motivate his players. Same for any other province. I was so annoyed with Penney because he's brought it into the media and the media don't need a second excuse to start the provincial bandwagon rolling... You can see now this is the angle that'll shift the papers. It lacked class as a stunt to pull.

Just a week after players from right across Ireland pulled together to achieve something special and the Munster coach is already playing selection politics bingo- its ridiculous. We can be rivals and have a bit of class with how we deal with each other.

by SecretFly Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:10 pm

Don't be re-printing that stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's outrageously over the top and might have the IRB on their doorstep perhaps suggesting they are bringing rugby into disrepute.

by Sin é Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:17 pm

wolfball wrote:
Sin é wrote:Wolf, Matt O'Connor laments the lack of tribalism in the SH clubs. He thinks its great up here (in NH). It gets bums on seats.

I worry about these games as something always goes wrong (injury, citing etc) that will rule someone you need over the next while. In fairness though, Matt O'Connor is unlikely to go running to the media to get a Munster player cited (like Schmidt did to POC last year).

Tribalism will never be eliminated from the Irish psyche. I am merely saying that for at least a week or two after winning only the 2 or 3rd championship of most of our lives, we can actually be united. Sin you know yourself a little bit I hope and realise that you are one of the worst for finding controversy and tribalism where none exists. Sure other provinces do it on here (not connacht as i'm the only one left i think ) but you have a responsibility to govern yourself and tone down some of the madder allegations against the irish team.

I hope to god tribalism is not eliminated. Otherwise, you lose your competitiveness. Guarantee you if Connacht were more tribal, they would win more.

by Sin é Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:21 pm

Notch wrote:Is it;

Jono Gibbes wrote:Look, I really don't know if I really believe all that stuff. Rob Penney is stirring it a little bit.

Look at what they have done this year: they have got a home quarter-final, they've only lost three games, they're off the top of the league by two points – I don't know if they need all the peripheral stuff talked about by us.

and

Rob Kearney wrote:I think if you don't use something like that to fire you up and use it to your advantage, there is something a little bit wrong with you.

I have no doubt they will use that. There's no doubt that we've things to prove as well... that there was such a strong Leinster contingent there. We have to show why. It is a double-edged sword.

Because I'm not really sure what else they are going to say when Penneys comments are put to them tbh. If that makes me sound one-sided to you so be it.

Foleys comment didn't go over my head. He wouldn't be a proper Munster coach if he wasn't using this behind the scenes to motivate his players. Same for any other province. I was so annoyed with Penney because he's brought it into the media and the media don't need a second excuse to start the provincial bandwagon rolling... You can see now this is the angle that'll shift the papers. It lacked class as a stunt to pull.

Just a week after players from right across Ireland pulled together to achieve something special and the Munster coach is already playing selection politics bingo- its ridiculous. We can be rivals and have a bit of class with how we deal with each other.

Lets face it Notch, you are just jealous that Ulster don't get under the skin of the Leinster supporters like the way Munster can.

by SecretFly Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:22 pm

Who would Connacht be tribal against?

Who did them most wrong?

Actually, which Province has beaten Connacht most often?

One for the trench coat statisticians Wink

by ME-109 Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:32 pm

SecretFly wrote:Who would Connacht be tribal against? - Cromwell

Who did them most wrong? Cromwell

Actually, which Province has beaten Connacht most often?

One for the trench coat statisticians

Because now everyone says to hell or connacht

by SecretFly Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:37 pm

But that's Leinster people that were sent to Connacht. Wink

So who would Connacht be tribal against? It's a given - it's Munster again!

by wolfball Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:41 pm

SecretFly wrote:Who would Connacht be tribal against?

Who did them most wrong?

Actually, which Province has beaten Connacht most often?

One for the trench coat statisticians

Where is the Cromwell Pirates when you need them...

by wolfball Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:42 pm

SecretFly wrote:But that's Leinster people that were sent to Connacht.

So who would Connacht be tribal against? It's a given - it's Munster again!

They did steal Fields of Athenry...

by SecretFly Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:44 pm

There you go...that's more than cause enough to rifle them up the jacksie...as the Carry On crew might word it.

by **Notch** Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:23 pm

Sin é wrote:
Lets face it Notch, you are just jealous that Ulster don't get under the skin of the Leinster supporters like the way Munster can.

The truth is the more bitter and unfriendly the rivalry, the less enjoyable it is to go to away games and socialise with opposition fans. When I did go to the quarter-final Ulster won in Limerick I had an outstanding time and the Munster fans I met were all top class. Showed great sportsmanship and hospitality. If I were a Leinster fan in that scenario, I might have got a more mixed reception maybe? I really don't know. But I enjoy it more when its good natured and you can congratulate your opponents on a victory and commiserate with them over a loss.

by Engine#4 Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:23 pm

wolfball wrote:
SecretFly wrote:Who would Connacht be tribal against?

Who did them most wrong?

Actually, which Province has beaten Connacht most often?

One for the trench coat statisticians

Where is the Cromwell Pirates when you need them...

He was born in Huntingdon so I think Northampton are probably his local top tier team.

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