Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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Seriously desperate now, please score Norwich

[GSC]

As I say, the only thing I think he really excels at is versatility. Good at a number of roles but not particularly great in any.

[Ent]

Tbh I don't really see him being great at any position

Why not at cb? He has all the attributes to be a very good one: Pace, Power, reading of the game, heading, good technically on the ball

Not that quick, poor reader of the game really - dives in more than any centre half I've seen in the last decade. Awful, awful technique.

Smalling is ok, solid.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I've been really impressed with stones, might just be being overly critical but both young united centre halves have underwhelmed me. Jones in particular is an awful player.

I'd certainly take Stones ahead of Smalling to the world cup, he arguably been better than our starting CB jagielka in his absence anyways

Would be good experience for him anyways, more beneficial than taking a Lescott

I kinda think Jones is best at DM, not sure about him at CB

[Stella]

Anyone else think Barry should be going to Brazil? He like Heskey, and a few others tend to get the blame when we go out, but is there a better English DM in the EPL?

[Ent]

Not good enough on the ball for cm or fullback.

Needs to model himself on a peak vidic or 04-06 terry to see how a defender lacking that yard of pace can be top class.

Would still take smalling as he's a solid centre half and can cover rb.

[Guest]

What I would say that impresses me about Sterling at the same age compared to Lennon and SWP when they burst on the scene is his composure in front of goal. SWP scored some worldies to say the least, but wouldn't necessarily back him in a one on one situation, same with Lennon. With Sterling, he's proven it this season, one that stands out was the game vs Spurs.

Thought Sterling got a little bit lucky with yesterday's goal. it looked good, but he did dilly-dally, and could have easily been robbed of the ball.

Lucky? It was brilliant. He looks up as if he's going to pass the ball across the goal and tricks both Kompany and Hart before mugging the pair of them. Audacious

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Anyone else think Barry should be going to Brazil? He like Heskey, and a few others tend to get the blame when we go out, but is there a better English DM in the EPL?

He's been very good this season, kinda a renaissance

But I'd doubt we'll take him seems Gerrard has that role sewn up

[Stella]

What I would say that impresses me about Sterling at the same age compared to Lennon and SWP when they burst on the scene is his composure in front of goal. SWP scored some worldies to say the least, but wouldn't necessarily back him in a one on one situation, same with Lennon. With Sterling, he's proven it this season, one that stands out was the game vs Spurs.

Thought Sterling got a little bit lucky with yesterday's goal. it looked good, but he did dilly-dally, and could have easily been robbed of the ball.

Lucky? It was brilliant. He looks up as if he's going to pass the ball across the goal and tricks both Kompany and Hart before mugging the pair of them. Audacious

I'm not totally convinced he knew what he was doing, but hey, he finished well when the space came.

[Stella]

Anyone else think Barry should be going to Brazil? He like Heskey, and a few others tend to get the blame when we go out, but is there a better English DM in the EPL?

He's been very good this season, kinda a renaissance

But I'd doubt we'll take him seems Gerrard has that role sewn up

Gerrard will start of course, but maybe as back up? I will be surprised if he goes, mind.

[Guest]

What I would say that impresses me about Sterling at the same age compared to Lennon and SWP when they burst on the scene is his composure in front of goal. SWP scored some worldies to say the least, but wouldn't necessarily back him in a one on one situation, same with Lennon. With Sterling, he's proven it this season, one that stands out was the game vs Spurs.

Thought Sterling got a little bit lucky with yesterday's goal. it looked good, but he did dilly-dally, and could have easily been robbed of the ball.

Lucky? It was brilliant. He looks up as if he's going to pass the ball across the goal and tricks both Kompany and Hart before mugging the pair of them. Audacious

I'm not totally convinced he knew what he was doing, but hey, he finished well when the space came.

The space didn't come.....he made it!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Anyone else think Barry should be going to Brazil? He like Heskey, and a few others tend to get the blame when we go out, but is there a better English DM in the EPL?

He's been very good this season, kinda a renaissance

But I'd doubt we'll take him seems Gerrard has that role sewn up

Gerrard will start of course, but maybe as back up? I will be surprised if he goes, mind.

I'd be surprised too, personally I'd have him ahead of Carrick, but cant see it happening

[GSC]

GK: Hart, Foster, Darlow
DEF: Cahill, Jagielka, Jones, Smalling, Baines, Cole, Johnson
MID: Gerrard, Lampard, Carrick, Henderson, Cleverley, Sterling, Lallana, Townsend, Ox
ATT: Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck, Lambert

My guess for the 23 barring further injury

[Stella]

What I would say that impresses me about Sterling at the same age compared to Lennon and SWP when they burst on the scene is his composure in front of goal. SWP scored some worldies to say the least, but wouldn't necessarily back him in a one on one situation, same with Lennon. With Sterling, he's proven it this season, one that stands out was the game vs Spurs.

Thought Sterling got a little bit lucky with yesterday's goal. it looked good, but he did dilly-dally, and could have easily been robbed of the ball.

Lucky? It was brilliant. He looks up as if he's going to pass the ball across the goal and tricks both Kompany and Hart before mugging the pair of them. Audacious

I'm not totally convinced he knew what he was doing, but hey, he finished well when the space came.

The space didn't come.....he made it!

He did, but he did dilly-dally, when he first got it. I could be being too critical, but he could have easily been tackled from behind before he went back onto his right foot.

[Fernando]

What I would say that impresses me about Sterling at the same age compared to Lennon and SWP when they burst on the scene is his composure in front of goal. SWP scored some worldies to say the least, but wouldn't necessarily back him in a one on one situation, same with Lennon. With Sterling, he's proven it this season, one that stands out was the game vs Spurs.

Thought Sterling got a little bit lucky with yesterday's goal. it looked good, but he did dilly-dally, and could have easily been robbed of the ball.

Lucky? It was brilliant. He looks up as if he's going to pass the ball across the goal and tricks both Kompany and Hart before mugging the pair of them. Audacious

I'm not totally convinced he knew what he was doing, but hey, he finished well when the space came.

The space didn't come.....he made it!

He did, but he did dilly-dally, when he first got it. I could be being too critical, but he could have easily been tackled from behind before he went back onto his right foot.

I thought was clever by Sterling but no idea why Hart was that far out of his goal considering Kompany was still ahead of him.

#EnglandsNo.1MyArse

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

What I would say that impresses me about Sterling at the same age compared to Lennon and SWP when they burst on the scene is his composure in front of goal. SWP scored some worldies to say the least, but wouldn't necessarily back him in a one on one situation, same with Lennon. With Sterling, he's proven it this season, one that stands out was the game vs Spurs.

Thought Sterling got a little bit lucky with yesterday's goal. it looked good, but he did dilly-dally, and could have easily been robbed of the ball.

Lucky? It was brilliant. He looks up as if he's going to pass the ball across the goal and tricks both Kompany and Hart before mugging the pair of them. Audacious

I'm not totally convinced he knew what he was doing, but hey, he finished well when the space came.

The space didn't come.....he made it!

He did, but he did dilly-dally, when he first got it. I could be being too critical, but he could have easily been tackled from behind before he went back onto his right foot.

Which then would have been a pen.

Not sure how you can criticise this goal? Would you have rather him shown no composure what so ever and just shoot first time and hope for the best?

[Stella]

Why a pen? For getting tackled?

Like I say, a bit over critical. My first thought was 'shot' when he first got it, and to be fair, he would have been criticised if he had been caught with the ball. In fairness it's the end result that matters, and that was a goal.

[Fernando]

It would have been avoided if Hart wasn't 8 yards off his line like a complete muppet.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Why a pen? For getting tackled?

Like I say, a bit over critical. My first thought was 'shot' when he first got it, and to be fair, he would have been criticised if he had been caught with the ball. In fairness it's the end result that matters, and that was a goal.

You cant tackle from behind Stella   

[Stella]

Why a pen? For getting tackled?

Like I say, a bit over critical. My first thought was 'shot' when he first got it, and to be fair, he would have been criticised if he had been caught with the ball. In fairness it's the end result that matters, and that was a goal.

You cant tackle from behind Stella   

You can if you come round the side and get the ball?

[NickisBHAFC]

GK: Hart, Foster, Darlow
DEF: Cahill, Jagielka, Jones, Smalling, Baines, Cole, Johnson
MID: Gerrard, Lampard, Carrick, Henderson, Cleverley, Sterling, Lallana, Townsend, Ox
ATT: Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck, Lambert

My guess for the 23 barring further injury

Whilshere? Barkley? 

Id rather see Carroll go over Lambert as well tbh.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Why a pen? For getting tackled?

Like I say, a bit over critical. My first thought was 'shot' when he first got it, and to be fair, he would have been criticised if he had been caught with the ball. In fairness it's the end result that matters, and that was a goal.

You cant tackle from behind Stella   

You can if you come round the side and get the ball?

Then its not from behind then   

Sort it out Stella

[Stella]

Why a pen? For getting tackled?

Like I say, a bit over critical. My first thought was 'shot' when he first got it, and to be fair, he would have been criticised if he had been caught with the ball. In fairness it's the end result that matters, and that was a goal.

You cant tackle from behind Stella   

You can if you come round the side and get the ball?

Then its not from behind then   

Sort it out Stella

From behind, as in a player from behind him, who in fairness can tackle from behind, as long as they don't go through the player. I could have worded it better, but my point still stands.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Why a pen? For getting tackled?

Like I say, a bit over critical. My first thought was 'shot' when he first got it, and to be fair, he would have been criticised if he had been caught with the ball. In fairness it's the end result that matters, and that was a goal.

You cant tackle from behind Stella   

You can if you come round the side and get the ball?

Then its not from behind then   

Sort it out Stella

From behind, as in a player from behind him, who in fairness can tackle from behind, as long as they don't go through the player. I could have worded it better, but my point still stands.

Fair enough but what Man City player could have tackled him from 'behind'?

[The Special Juan]

GK: Hart, Foster, Darlow
DEF: Cahill, Jagielka, Jones, Smalling, Baines, Cole, Johnson
MID: Gerrard, Lampard, Carrick, Henderson, Cleverley, Sterling, Lallana, Townsend, Ox
ATT: Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck, Lambert

My guess for the 23 barring further injury

Come on, you know Ashley Young will be there for some reason.

[GSC]

We can live in hope

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

"@Cricketer_Dan: Between them Wolfswinkel & Hooper have gone 2,537 mins without a goal. That's 28 full games. #ncfc"

Boy thats properly depressing

[NickisBHAFC]

Van Wolfswinkel biggest disappointment of the season?

Ozil, Lamala, Soldado all up there.

[The Special Juan]

Fellaini too but I'd say the Wolf or Soldado.

[GSC]

Lamela possibly.

Think it has to be RVW though. Last league goal on the opening say

[Guest]

How can RVW be the biggest disappointment? What were you expecting, 15-20 goals a season, I certainly wasn`t. He wasn't a big name signing in terms of the league generally or the highest fee last summer. Yeah, he's been dreadful & Norwich`s biggest disappointment, but for me, its clearly between Ozil, Fellaini or a Spurs player.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Lamela for me

RVW has been poor, but its not as if he's playing in a free scoring side which creates chances for him, which is basically what he needs. Looking back the hype machine in the summer about him from the club built him up to something he was never gonna live upto

Jovetic has also been non existent

[NickisBHAFC]

Jovetic hasn't been given a fair crack and tbf when he does play, he hardly does terrible.

Fellani forgot about him, i knew from day one that wouldn't work out, i classed him as the next Veron.

[GSC]

Ozil is a pretty laughable suggestion. Fell off hard but sparked Arsenals first half title challenge which is a lot more than others nominees.

Lamelas been useless but I don't get how you play that many games up front and score 1 goal. For a supposed goal scorer.

Fellaini awful but contribute more than other 2

[Dolphin Ziggler]

No way can it be Ozil. No way. He had a very good spell at least, was fine otherwise and then injured. Lamela has been injured and also just hasnt settled, not helped by the manager being sacked, but hes also only 22.

Would be between Fellaini and RVW. Fellaini isnt exactly the root of United's problems and is in a side where nearly every man is playing below the level expected. 

Mitroglou would also rank close even in half a season. 

I'd go for RVW. He should be scoring at least ten goals. 1 goal on the opening day is terrible. Considering what each man represented when they were bought in the summer I think it would have to be RVW. I'm not surprised, I thought he'd flop, but aside from goals I just think hes been an absolute passenger of a player. He was Norwich's gamble at making the step from fighters to mid table and beyond. Hes failed.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/14/steven-gerrard-norwich-best-liverpool?CMP=twt_gu

God we're gonna get destroyed

[Liam]

Soldado hands down disappointment of the season. Been poor for such a prolific striker in Spain. I've been surprised that Negredo has out scored him tbh. Yes he's in the better side but I always preferred Soldado in Spain and thought he'd suit the premier league.

[Liam]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/14/steven-gerrard-norwich-best-liverpool?CMP=twt_gu

God we're gonna get destroyed

You never know Olly, strange things can happen in football. Your fighting for your lives down there but yes, I would be surprised if we didn't see a comfortable 3-0 win for Liverpool

[Dolphin Ziggler]

If there's ever a game that Suarez, who hasnt looked his best in the past two matches, wanted to be coming up then its Norwich

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I'd be surprised if it isn't at least 5

If we can score I'll be happy

Im also going to Chelsea away cos I just enjoy flushing money away

[compelling and rich]

Tbh I don't really see him being great at any position

Why not at cb? He has all the attributes to be a very good one: Pace, Power, reading of the game, heading, good technically on the ball

Not that quick, poor reader of the game really - dives in more than any centre half I've seen in the last decade. Awful, awful technique.

Smalling is ok, solid.

you you even watch united ent!? jones physicality is the best thing about him so far, he's very quick for a centre half, i do agree that he needs to improve on reading the game but what cb at his age doesnt. been really impressed with him when he's been played at cb and given a proper run

[skyeman]

For the money and the club he was coming too.

Definitely Fellaini.

Great at Everton but a flop at OT. Could turn it around though.

[Liam]

Fellaini looked great at Everton because he played CF. They knocked long diagonal balls into him and he would chest it down for someone or hold it up, that's it. Should never have gone for him, let alone paid that obscene amount of money for him. Whenever he played cdm he looked average and has shown this season when played there he's out of his depth at the highest levels. Should cut our losses and get rid of him.

[compelling and rich]

soldado for me, for large parts played every game and as a striker has barely scored and contributed nothing

fellaini has been injured for large parts, few really poor games but did ok in a few others. think fellaini has been targeted more unfairly than some others as he's moyes poster boy and signifies everything that has been going wrong with moyes in charge

[skyeman]

Fellaini looked great at Everton because he played CF. They knocked long diagonal balls into him and he would chest it down for someone or hold it up, that's it. Should never have gone for him, let alone paid that obscene amount of money for him. Whenever he played cdm he looked average and has shown this season when played there he's out of his depth at the highest levels. Should cut our losses and get rid of him.

Totally agree, but should Moyes not know that?

If not, why?

[compelling and rich]

Fellaini looked great at Everton because he played CF. They knocked long diagonal balls into him and he would chest it down for someone or hold it up, that's it. Should never have gone for him, let alone paid that obscene amount of money for him. Whenever he played cdm he looked average and has shown this season when played there he's out of his depth at the highest levels. Should cut our losses and get rid of him.

Totally agree, but should Moyes not know that?

If not, why?

because he's a clueless out of his depth manager?

[compelling and rich]

my i also add that moyes said that fellaini is the best belgium playing in the prem    

this is the man we have to trust to lead our club forward

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/news/10766475/Manchester-City-to-be-made-to-pay-a-high-price-for-spending-spree-under-Uefa-Financial-Fair-Play-rules.html

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Ooooh a fine, that'll annoy em

[Liam]

my i also add that moyes said that fellaini is the best belgium playing in the prem    

this is the man we have to trust to lead our club forward

Which is why we need to act now before its too late, and if the rumors are to be believed, then that is what is about to happen. I've heard Van Gaal's name mentioned, be happy with him but Klopp is the one who is just custom made to be utd head coach. We should go all out for Klopp, because he would then hopefully bring Reus with him.

[socal1976]

No way cleverly should be in England's World Cup roster over either Barkley or wilshere. Dolph Andy Carroll shouldn't be there either regardless of how handsome he looks or how he beats up center halves. Lallana and Barkley both should be there and super jack as well if he is healthy

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