Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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Seriously desperate now, please score Norwich

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

my i also add that moyes said that fellaini is the best belgium playing in the prem    

this is the man we have to trust to lead our club forward

Which is why we need to act now before its too late, and if the rumors are to be believed, then that is what is about to happen. I've heard Van Gaal's name mentioned, be happy with him but Klopp is the one who is just custom made to be utd head coach. We should go all out for Klopp, because he would then hopefully bring Reus with him.

Why would Klopp leave Dortmund where he is loved and adjored to come Man U, only for the fans to turn on him and hire planes to fly over OT saying 'Klopp Out', if the players are unable to adapt his way of playing after 6 months.

[Ent]

Tbh I don't really see him being great at any position

Why not at cb? He has all the attributes to be a very good one: Pace, Power, reading of the game, heading, good technically on the ball

Not that quick, poor reader of the game really - dives in more than any centre half I've seen in the last decade. Awful, awful technique.

Smalling is ok, solid.

you you even watch united ent!? jones physicality is the best thing about him so far, he's very quick for a centre half, i do agree that he needs to improve on reading the game but what cb at his age doesnt. been really impressed with him when he's been played at cb and given a proper run

I think he deceives people with how rushed he looks in everything he does, he always ends up divine into tackle which suggests to me he isn't that quick. Smalling probably faster over a medium distance.

He looked like a superstar in the making early on but I think reality has set in and he looks a poor player at the highest standard. Hope it's just been a bad 2 years and I'm wrong but don't think so.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Ross Barkley is the target for Liverpool at £38 million apparently

Imagine adding his pace, power and ability in that team

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Ross Barkley is the target for Liverpool at £38 million apparently

Imagine adding his pace, power and ability  in that team

Man U have got more chance signing Kroos, Reus and Klopp.

[Liam]

Everton will never sell to Liverpool so you can forget that, especially if they get top 4! Ridiculous rumour.

SOF why wouldn't klopp come to utd? We're arguably the biggest club in the world, generate the most profit and revenue and still, believe it or not, have some top players at the club. 75,000 seated stadium, chance to rebuild the club under your philosophy and with less pressure as rater than following SAF, your following Moyes and the chance to rebuild the squad? Pretty enticing if you ask me.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Because you don't offer champions league, although your in a strong position commercially, no champions league money is a good chuck of profit you would usually have gone. Thats including stadium attendances, match day merchandise and prize money. If you think that Man U are just goin to give there new manager a blank cheque book and say make us good again, then I think your very much mistaken.

Plus if he didn't have the desired effect straight away, planes will be flown over OT demanding his resignation.

He's loved in Dortmund and in Germany, and has a great team to make an assault in the league and champions league.

[Fernando]

Jurgen Klopp will replace Tata at Barca id expect tbh.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Dortmund have had it good, but now they're losing they're best players and Bayern are just monopolising German football I'd think this summer would be a good time for Klopp to start a new adventure

Utd despite no CL football will still have a lot to spend, and will be attractive. One down year isn't gonna spiral them into the abyss

[Fernando]

Yaya Toure out for 2 weeks.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Dortmund have had it good, but now they're losing they're best players and Bayern are just monopolising German football I'd think this summer would be a good time for Klopp to start a new adventure

Utd despite no CL football will still have a lot to spend, and will be attractive. One down year isn't gonna spiral them into the abyss

Moyes wont be leaving so its mute point really.

[Liam]

Seems Moyes will be leaving. Too many stories going around, plus, a few weeks back he was coming out and saying he had the undoubted backing from the board. Now he either basically says "no comment" or that it's not up to him to decide, all he can do is TRY (his favourite word) and turn it round.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Dortmund have had it good, but now they're losing they're best players and Bayern are just monopolising German football I'd think this summer would be a good time for Klopp to start a new adventure

Utd despite no CL football will still have a lot to spend, and will be attractive. One down year isn't gonna spiral them into the abyss

Moyes wont be leaving so its mute point really.

Well the Utd board either have to back him or sack him, and honestly he just looks well out of his depth so sacking him should be the course of action to take.

[GSC]

Sacking Moyes would likely do more harm than good in the short term.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Gives the club a bad rep. I think they need to give Moyes another half of season to save face. Otherwise it would make loyal managers like Klopp think twice about joining if they arent going to be given sufficient time.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Gives the club a bad rep. I think they need to give Moyes another half of season to save face. Otherwise it would make loyal managers like Klopp think twice about joining if they arent going to be given sufficient time.

What so set yourselves back another year or two just to "save face"?

Cmon man

[Liam]

Its not about showing loyalty. Its about doing whats right. Its a huge summer coming up for utd and for me, if Moyes had shown improvement across the season and looked as if he was coming to terms with the job then yeh, give him another season. But its been consistently shocking all season, clueless tactics and team selections and it has to end before its too late. It was never the right appointment. The appointment should have been done like any other, draw up a shortlist of managers who are possible candidates for the job. By all means involve Fergie in who he recommends but that's all.

All Moyes really had was that he'd done a cracking job at Everton, longevity and making them hard working and hard to beat and consistently making them a top 8 club on a limited budget. Football wise they weren't attractive to watch. You have to have more than that to succeed at utd. Rodgers was appointed manager at Liverpool because his footballing philosophy matched Liverpool's. He also showed and is showing that his tactical understanding of the game is top top draw. Moyes has never really shown this. I've backed him all the way this season, as have the fans. Time has come to finish this disastser before it becomes a catastrophe.

[J.Benson II]

I think ideally they would want to give Moyes the beginning of next season to see how they start. However, that would mean keeping Moyes during the summer and giving him the big budget to improve the squad, something I don't think they are keen on doing.
Any other club would have ditched him around Christmas. United being loyal mainly because he was Fergie's choice and having to pay off his contract if they fired him.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/15/manchester-united-offering-toni-kroos-260000-a-week

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Gives the club a bad rep. I think they need to give Moyes another half of season to save face. Otherwise it would make loyal managers like Klopp think twice about joining if they arent going to be given sufficient time.

What so set yourselves back another year or two just to "save face"?

Cmon man

 
Thats the business Oliver. You got to give the man at the helm time, otherwise you just become another Chelsea. Who must have spent a fair wack in compo payments in recent years.
 
Moyes is on a long contract which wouldnt be cheap to break either.

Remember Rodgers came 7th in his first season. Our board could have pulled the trigger

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Gives the club a bad rep. I think they need to give Moyes another half of season to save face. Otherwise it would make loyal managers like Klopp think twice about joining if they arent going to be given sufficient time.

What so set yourselves back another year or two just to "save face"?

Cmon man

Thats the business Oliver. You got to give the man at the helm time, otherwise you just become another Chelsea. Who must have spent a fair wack in compo payments in recent years.

Moyes is on a long contract which wouldnt be cheap to break either.

What's the point in keeping a guy who is quite obviously not up to the task just to be loyal? You do that, you end up in a situation like we are this season, and its gonna cost us our premier league place barring a miracle

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

So because you don't think Moyes is up for the task he should be sacked.

I think there are people better qualified to make that decision at the club.

[Liam]

Gives the club a bad rep. I think they need to give Moyes another half of season to save face. Otherwise it would make loyal managers like Klopp think twice about joining if they arent going to be given sufficient time.

What so set yourselves back another year or two just to "save face"?

Cmon man

 
Thats the business Oliver. You got to give the man at the helm time, otherwise you just become another Chelsea. Who must have spent a fair wack in compo payments in recent years.
 
Moyes is on a long contract which wouldnt be cheap to break either.

Remember Rodgers came 7th in his first season. Our board could have pulled the trigger

Difference is you didn't win the league the season before. Don't get me wrong, it was more everyone else being rubbish and us having RVP than us having the best team, no questions about that. But, we still should really have been top 4, every utd supporter accepted that we wouldn't really challenge for the title, but no one saw us finishing 7th! I mean, Spurs have been absolutely dire all season, yet we're behind them and lost at home to them!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Culver house and Karsa suspended by Villa, yep Lambert's a goner...

[mystiroakey]

Yep that 4th place is up for grabs. And united should have taken it. And I think everyone would agree if fergie was still there united may not have threatened Liverpool or citeh but would still be favs at this point for 4th.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

So because you don't think Moyes is up for the task he should be sacked.

I think there are people better qualified to make that decision at the club.

Just my opinion from what I've seen   

BTW I like Moyes, he just doesn't seem up to being a manager of a top club. Its a totally different situation to Rodgers last season anyways

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Dont sack Moyes. If you accepted that it would take a year to shake off the crud and start again then stand by that conviction. The best away record in the league shows something, I really think it does. A team that lacks confidence, conviction and some of its past glory has struggled to handle how teams approach them at home. Moyes will have learned a lot from this first season and will know all the gaps. New manager will need to assess all over again anyway.

I feel like Lambert would be in demand if he left Villa but I don't know where to currently. Swansea could be a good fit.

[GSC]

It amuses me that at the start of the season United fans were all talking about how they'd give Moyes time, wouldn't knee jerk and knew the value of stability

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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I feel like Lambert would be in demand if he left Villa but I don't know where to currently. Swansea could be a good fit.

I can dream of a reunion   

[GSC]

While it would be foolish to sack Moyes already, theres a clear trend from his Everton days about being overawed away to big clubs. You'd have to wonder whether he can handle the pressure given his OT record

[NickisBHAFC]

Moyes will be fine, just working with a bunch of old cloggers. Once he has a clear out, he will challenge again once he gets a better squad together. 

I said Rodgers would do class at Liverpool, he has already done just that, Moyes will do the same at United.

[J.Benson II]

Dont sack Moyes.

Pretty much what ever non-United fan keeps saying.  

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

The Manure fans where saying give him time at the start. Funny how things have changed. Welcome to midtable boys

[J.Benson II]

Always amusing whenever United beat some average or poor outfit this season their fans would talk about turning the corner/showing improvements etc - then the following week they would actually play someone decent and get creamed.  

[GSC]

The Manure fans where saying give him time at the start. Funny how things have changed. Welcome to midtable boys

Something about people in glass houses throwing stones?

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

The Manure fans where saying give him time at the start. Funny how things have changed. Welcome to midtable boys

Something about people in glass houses throwing stones?

Not sure what your implying?

[Dolphin Ziggler]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/15/swansea-city-confirm-training-clashes-players

Still nice and rosy down Swansea way then. I hope someone knocked Chico out

[compelling and rich]

think soilder of fortunes continued insistence that we need to give moyes more time tells you everything you need to know about how moyes has done

he's had plenty of support all the way threw the season, and any manager worth his salt top 4 was a easy target at united. i mean everton beating us to the top 4 come on!

[westisbest]

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I feel like Lambert would be in demand if he left Villa but I don't know where to currently. Swansea could be a good fit.

I can dream of a reunion   

Lets hope so olly for all our sakes.

Not sure what they were suspended for.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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I feel like Lambert would be in demand if he left Villa but I don't know where to currently. Swansea could be a good fit.

I can dream of a reunion   

Lets hope so olly for all our sakes.

Not sure what they were suspended for.

Westi it will never happen, about as likely as RVW scoring a hat trick on Sunday!   

Apparently Culver house/Karsa had a bust up with the guy they've promoted that isn't given, which is strange cos surely both parties would be suspended

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Good start from Sky, not sure they've mentioned us yet.

Hate these games in many ways. Win lose or draw, we won't matter come the end of the match. It'll all be Arsenal.

[westisbest]

Cowans was promoted with Given olly.

Hearing the players couldn't get on with Culverhouse.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

#emptyseats

[Liam]

whats new at the emirates although the price of tickets is an absolute disgrace for a club who hasn't won anything in 9 years

[The Special Juan]

Look at all the young home-grown talents Arsenal have on the field tonight!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Severe lack of pace out there for Le Arse

[NickisBHAFC]

whats new at the emirates although the price of tickets is an absolute disgrace for a club who hasn't won anything in 9 years

This.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Why is Mertesacker not marking Carroll

Should've been a pen on Jarvis

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

What a miss by Diane, West Ham should be one up here

[NickisBHAFC]

Na, doubt any ref would of given that tbh Olly

Big miss by Diame, how Liverpool are interested in him ill never know  

[The Special Juan]

On the plus side, Abou Diaby will be back next week...

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