Man Utd - The Gaalacticos thread

[Ent]

First topic message reminder :

Can see the same thing happening with Kroos, when Bayern stump up the wage & then the pressure will be on Moyes massively, after constantly telling everyone that he's been given the nod by these agents that these players wanted to come to United.

He shouldn't be saying things like that IMO. Just making things harder for himself.

[Ent]

These players are all brain dead.

Centre half trying a 30 yarder.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

You guys need to bring in someone like Tony Pulis

He'll get you out of this relegation battle

[Stella]

Same again, afraid to go into the middle of the pitch then a man out wide loses it and they stroll in.

As far as I'm concerned no body playing tonight aside from de gea should play for this club again- they have shamed themselves and the club.

Difficult to slate youngsters. The manager should take the blame, by playing too many of them.

[Ent]

Same again, afraid to go into the middle of the pitch then a man out wide loses it and they stroll in.

As far as I'm concerned no body playing tonight aside from de gea should play for this club again- they have shamed themselves and the club.

Difficult to slate youngsters. The manager should take the blame, by playing too many of them.

They don't have what it takes, dot have the right attitude or conviction.

Throughout the years out youngsters regardless of ability have shown desire and conviction when given a chance. These guys haven't, they are afraid to take risks - I've no interest in them.

[mystiroakey]

You guys need to bring in someone like Tony Pulis

He'll get you out of this relegation battle

You might be joking mate . but he would be ideal for them. He would take none of this defensive nonsense.

United Wont go down. But tp would do a better job than lvg.

[Gregers]

So we can now add MK Dons to the growing list of sides that had never beaten United until SAF stepped down from manager...

Seriously though what is LVG thinking, the League Cup was a genuine way for you to win a trophy this season (and guarantee European Football, and its all over by March so wouldn't get in the way of fighting for 4th come May)

Under Moyes you were often bad, under LVG you are bad at best... truly abysmal is still putting it nicely

[Ent]

Fair play to the away fans, still singing.

[Fernando]

MK Dons 4-0 - Benik Afobe

That was Frak awful they should be ashamed of themselves.

[AlexHuckerby]

OMG THE WORST DEFENDING EVER ITS 4!!!

[Ent]

Ridiculous.

No effort or desire from any of hour players.

Just absolute crap.

[Duty281]

Sorry, what is happening? Three nil to MK Dons?!

Nope, nope, it is four!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Epic just epic

[AlexHuckerby]

To be fair Gregers, think most would have thought that Welbeck and Hernandez etc would have been well enough to walk through MK Dons.

Di Maria's agent is putting in a transfer request I'm sure.

[Gregers]

To be fair Gregers, think most would have thought that Welbeck and Hernandez etc would have been well enough to walk through MK Dons.

Di Maria's agent is putting in a transfer request I'm sure.

But that defence clearly is not. Could have played Mata and RVP and get them to play themselves into form

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Its OK folks, you've got the pre season trophy to look back on #glorydays

[Ent]

Fans still singing at 4-0 after watching that absolute shower, fair play to them - something to be proud of tonight anyway. Nothing on the pitch to be anything but ashamed of.

[Gregers]

United's players should reimburse the cost of the ticket, travel, food and drink for every one of their travelling fans tonight

[mystiroakey]

United's players should reimburse the cost of the ticket, travel, food and drink for every one of their travelling fans tonight

They should give them there wife's for the night as well...

Man this is sad...

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Tbf Utd away fans were always the best down the carra even when we beat ya 1-0 that time

[Ent]

United's players should reimburse the cost of the ticket, travel, food and drink for every one of their travelling fans tonight

Definitely should.

[Gregers]

Is it too much to say united COCupped tonight.... (OK I'll get my coat, sorry that one is terrible!)

[Fernando]

Angel Di Maria thoughts right now...

[Hero]

David Moyes is sat in his cave somewhere laughing his head off.

[Ent]

Right full time, I feel fairly calm given how long that performance was farcical - I think the anger has passed.

That's probably the worst performance I've ever seen from a United side, it lacked the basic effort any pub team could have put in. There was no desire from any of the players to do anything in a correct manner.

No agression, no physicality, no pressing, no desire to get into position quickly.

No communication, no conviction, no desire to do anything but safety first passes.

No assured touches, no firmly struck passes, no off the ball movement, no making yourself available for a team mate.

We've had decades of youngsters playing for united, with varying abilities - but the common theme with them all was effort, determination and conviction in their play - they did what they were capable of when given a chance. This batch just don't have it in them, it is plain to see.

I don't want to see any of these players (barring De Gea and Wilson) play for the club again.

Keane - unfortunately not good enough for PL
Evans - Has shown he can't function at the top level without a top class player beside him telling him what to do and bailing him out, in other words he is useless to us.
Vermijl - no conviction, no brain, no thanks
anderson - overweight, lacks ability, doesn't care
Powell - no pace, doesn't care. At one point tonight he made a token press, let the defender past him easily then just stood there the furthest forward making no effort to get back. That's just not good enough at any level never mind someone fighting for their club future.
Janko - looked devoid of ability, only had a half so maybe harsh but if you can't show anything against a league one side you aren't going to make it in the PL
Kagawa - he's just crap, back to Germany with you
James - hes had a lot of game time pre season, tries but unfortunately isn't good enough
Hernandez - awful all round game, flog to who ever is interested
Welbeck - you know at least he tried (the only one) but he has such limited quality on the ball at times and can't do it against league 1 sides.
Periera - no conviction, whats the point
Wilson - to be fair the game was lost when he came on and he had some conviction so he can stay
Januzaj - embarrassing tonight, does he not realise we've just signed a £60 million pound player in his position? Where is the effort? Where is the conviction to take men on and pick out passes?

People will talk about and criticise the formation but formations don't make you give away 5 yard passes, or avoid passing it into the middle of the pitch, or not try.

The players should be ashamed by that.

[The Special Juan]

Oh no, the C team lost. Wah wah wah.

[Fernando]

[The Special Juan]

Christ that's horrifying, like a Slitheen out of Dr Who (it's funny because Moyes looks like Capaldi).

[Ent]

Also must say well played to MK Dons, they were everything we weren't tonight and well deserved the win and scoreline.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Oh no, the C team lost.  Wah wah wah.

The over reaction to this result is humorous to say the least, if we were getting beaten that badly with the first team it would be a problem but we were playing youngsters nowhere near the first team squad.

[Gerry SA]

Wow that was shocking. Defence was dreadful. If LvG/Woodward don't sign another CB then a top 10 finish was be lucky...

Secondly the midfield was hopeless. No creativity. No vision.

[Scrumpy]

LVG should bring in his own back room team, having to put up with the likes of Giggs is destroying Utd.

They need a new start and ditch all the dead wood.

Well done MK dons

[Guest]

If LvG/Woodward don't sign another CB then a top 10 finish was be lucky....

what an over-reaction, yeah it was shocking, but it was the C team at best. No Top 10.....

[Gregers]

Oh no, the C team lost.  Wah wah wah.

The over reaction to this result is humorous to say the least, if we were getting beaten that badly with the first team it would be a problem but we were playing youngsters nowhere near the first team squad.

The C team of a premier league side (with 5 players in it that have played for their national side mind you) cannot beat a league 1 side. It is worth reacting to

[Ent]

Oh no, the C team lost.  Wah wah wah.

The over reaction to this result is humorous to say the least, if we were getting beaten that badly with the first team it would be a problem but we were playing youngsters nowhere near the first team squad.

The C team of a premier league side (with 5 players in it that have played for their national side mind you) cannot beat a league 1 side. It is worth reacting to

I've seen similar united sides lose to lower league opposition and you just move on (Palace, Coventry, Leeds etc etc).

Playing weakened sides it happens some times. Getting chinned 4-0 to a 3rd tier side with no real chances created and no real effort or conviction in the side is very much something to react to.

[Gerry SA]

If LvG/Woodward don't sign another CB then a top 10 finish was be lucky....

what an over-reaction, yeah it was shocking, but it was the C team at best. No Top 10.....

De Gea first choice keeper 

Evans has been first regular for the last 4/5 years

Anderson is a CL winner

Hernandez and Welbeck have been first team regulars

Januzaj the supposed next big thing. 

Overreacting? I doubt it.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Can't say i'm too bothered, nobody aside from De Gea and a fully fit Evans would be starting in the premier league.

[Gregers]

Oh no, the C team lost.  Wah wah wah.

The over reaction to this result is humorous to say the least, if we were getting beaten that badly with the first team it would be a problem but we were playing youngsters nowhere near the first team squad.

The C team of a premier league side (with 5 players in it that have played for their national side mind you) cannot beat a league 1 side. It is worth reacting to

I've seen similar united sides lose to lower league opposition and you just move on (Palace, Coventry, Leeds etc etc).

Playing weakened sides it happens some times. Getting chinned 4-0 to a 3rd tier side with no real chances created and no real effort or conviction in the side is very much something to react to.

As you've said, its not just losing its getting outplayed and destroyed by a league 1 side

[Ent]

Oh no, the C team lost.  Wah wah wah.

The over reaction to this result is humorous to say the least, if we were getting beaten that badly with the first team it would be a problem but we were playing youngsters nowhere near the first team squad.

The C team of a premier league side (with 5 players in it that have played for their national side mind you) cannot beat a league 1 side. It is worth reacting to

I've seen similar united sides lose to lower league opposition and you just move on (Palace, Coventry, Leeds etc etc).

Playing weakened sides it happens some times. Getting chinned 4-0 to a 3rd tier side with no real chances created and no real effort or conviction in the side is very much something to react to.

As you've said, its not just losing its getting outplayed and destroyed by a league 1 side

Yes losses happen, thats 2/3 under LVG. In hindsight a stronger team and a win to get the ball rolling and confidence up would have been good.

I do think we'd enough on the pitch to win, they just didn't care or have the fortitude to perform.

[Gregers]

Oh no, the C team lost.  Wah wah wah.

The over reaction to this result is humorous to say the least, if we were getting beaten that badly with the first team it would be a problem but we were playing youngsters nowhere near the first team squad.

The C team of a premier league side (with 5 players in it that have played for their national side mind you) cannot beat a league 1 side. It is worth reacting to

I've seen similar united sides lose to lower league opposition and you just move on (Palace, Coventry, Leeds etc etc).

Playing weakened sides it happens some times. Getting chinned 4-0 to a 3rd tier side with no real chances created and no real effort or conviction in the side is very much something to react to.

As you've said, its not just losing its getting outplayed and destroyed by a league 1 side

Yes losses happen, thats 2/3 under LVG. In hindsight a stronger team and a win to get the ball rolling and confidence up would have been good.

I do think we'd enough on the pitch to win, they just didn't care or have the fortitude to perform.

Confidence in the dressing room is going to be shot after this. If (and this is a big if) you lose against Burnley this weekend then I'd struggle to see how LVG will get the ball rolling

On a side note you must be glad you're not playing Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton or Spurs for a while

[Ent]

They'll be handing out a few hidings to us unless we get everyone fit and in some sort of form. Defending and counterattacking might suit us better presently.

Don't know what is happening with injuries but this weekend

De Gea
Jones Smalling Rojo
Valencia Fletcher Herrera Young
Di Maria
Rooney RVP

Will hopefully take care of Burnley.

Didn't agree with LVGs post match interview as much tonight. Said he thought we created a lot of chances and were unlucky.

Other interesting bits, said it might take a year to build the team. Also said DI Maria will be used as a winger or midfielder depending on situation and can be useful in our current philosophy.

[Gregers]

You'd hope so but with Valencia and Young playing anything could happen (also isn't Herrera injured?)

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Only five of those Utd players played at the world cup #cteam

[Ent]

You'd hope so but with Valencia and Young playing anything could happen (also isn't Herrera injured?)

Hope he'll be back, couldn't quite bear put Fletcher and Cleverly on the same line up again.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Mata will play, definitely

[The Special Juan]

It's still top heavy. Don't like it, but if it gets the team back into the CL that'll do. Then LVG can go and buy 3 defenders.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Don't worry United fans, #ncfc lost 4-0 to MK Dons in League Cup in 2011 while in Premier League and we stayed up that season.

#youshallsurvive

[Ent]

Don't worry United fans, #ncfc lost 4-0 to MK Dons in League Cup in 2011 while in Premier League and we stayed up that season.

#youshallsurvive

Keep the faith.

I'd like

de gea
Jones smalling Rojo Blackett
Herrera Fletcher
Di Maria Mata Rooney
RVP

this weekend. I think it will be persisting with 4312, possibly

de gea
jones smalling/evans rojo
valencia fletcher/Herrera Di Maria Young
Mata
RVP Rooney

from what LVG said tonight.

[Trebs]

I hope we go back to four at the back, we don't have much more time to persevere with this system with five.

De Gea
Valencia Smalling Jones Rojo
Fletcher Cleverley
Mata Rooney Di Maria
RVP

I know Mata is a little out of position on the right but this is the best line up.

[Ent]

What a raping that right side would get with mata and Valencia on it.

[mystiroakey]

Ent I didnt watch the game- but did zaha play last night?

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