Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

by Duty281 Sun 27 Apr - 16:13

First topic message reminder :

Superb by Mourinho. When are Liverpool at their most dangerous? The first thirty minutes of games; that is, generally, when they tear teams apart.

Not allowed to do that today, though, even against a very weakened Chelsea side. Liverpool didn't get a clear chance all game, and one costly, costly error gave Chelsea what they needed.

That and frustration, as Liverpool rapidly ran out of ideas and invention.

Back in City's hands now - another title won on goal difference?

by **hampo17** Tue 29 Apr - 19:20

If any of the Spurs players that arrived last season need to go Steve, Soldado is at the head of the list. He just hasn't cut it in the Premier League, and at 28 how difficult will it be for him to change his style?

Nacer Chadli could certainly develop in to a good player with the right manager, and at only 24 has his best years ahead of him. Christian Eriksen has been a good signing, I was disappointed Liverpool didn't get him at the time and I believe he'll only improve next season. Vlad Chiriches another one who has his best years ahead of him and needs a manager who'll teach him, not Tim Sherwood who is an idiot.

Etienne Capoue chances are he'll go to Napoli in the summer for around £8m, Erik Lamela only 22 and inexperienced. Give him another season and see what he has to offer, no point shipping a young player like that out after one season.

Spurs problem was two things, last season they relied so heavily on Gareth Bale that it meant this season was always going to be difficult, he pulled them out of so many holes and that was irreplaceable really. Secondly the amount of players they signed and immediately tried to blood in the first team, was stupidity on AVBs part, and also the boards who allowed such a large number of signings.

by mystiroakey Tue 29 Apr - 19:21

keep wenger on for 2 more years- then martinez is the ideal replacement as long as we keep seeing strides at everton.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 29 Apr - 19:29

hampo171 wrote:If any of the Spurs players that arrived last season need to go Steve, Soldado is at the head of the list. He just hasn't cut it in the Premier League, and at 28 how difficult will it be for him to change his style?

Nacer Chadli could certainly develop in to a good player with the right manager, and at only 24 has his best years ahead of him. Christian Eriksen has been a good signing, I was disappointed Liverpool didn't get him at the time and I believe he'll only improve next season. Vlad Chiriches another one who has his best years ahead of him and needs a manager who'll teach him, not Tim Sherwood who is an idiot.

Etienne Capoue chances are he'll go to Napoli in the summer for around £8m, Erik Lamela only 22 and inexperienced. Give him another season and see what he has to offer, no point shipping a young player like that out after one season.

Spurs problem was two things, last season they relied so heavily on Gareth Bale that it meant this season was always going to be difficult, he pulled them out of so many holes and that was irreplaceable really. Secondly the amount of players they signed and immediately tried to blood in the first team, was stupidity on AVBs part, and also the boards who allowed such a large number of signings.

Most of those players were signed by Baldini weren't they?

by Guest Tue 29 Apr - 19:30

Yeah, Spurs are a club that want a coach and definitely not a manager.

Been that way for a decade now.

by **hampo17** Tue 29 Apr - 19:31

Olly wrote:
hampo171 wrote:If any of the Spurs players that arrived last season need to go Steve, Soldado is at the head of the list. He just hasn't cut it in the Premier League, and at 28 how difficult will it be for him to change his style?

Nacer Chadli could certainly develop in to a good player with the right manager, and at only 24 has his best years ahead of him. Christian Eriksen has been a good signing, I was disappointed Liverpool didn't get him at the time and I believe he'll only improve next season. Vlad Chiriches another one who has his best years ahead of him and needs a manager who'll teach him, not Tim Sherwood who is an idiot.

Etienne Capoue chances are he'll go to Napoli in the summer for around £8m, Erik Lamela only 22 and inexperienced. Give him another season and see what he has to offer, no point shipping a young player like that out after one season.

Spurs problem was two things, last season they relied so heavily on Gareth Bale that it meant this season was always going to be difficult, he pulled them out of so many holes and that was irreplaceable really. Secondly the amount of players they signed and immediately tried to blood in the first team, was stupidity on AVBs part, and also the boards who allowed such a large number of signings.

Most of those players were signed by Baldini weren't they?

Depends what reports you read, AVB said he didn't want a number of the signings but the board and Baldini signed them anyway.

by AberdeenSteve Tue 29 Apr - 19:33

Agree that Soldado has been usless Hampo, I was just talking generally speaking what was the best move for Tottenham to make when the new manager take the hot seat. I think the guys who mentioned all need a decent run of games, and a little time to adjust to the English game.

De Boer has been great for the youth at Ajax, but a blotch on his CV.. The 5-1 cup final defeat to PEC Zwolle, the Dutch equivalent to that team that always somehow manages to avoid relegation.

by mystiroakey Tue 29 Apr - 19:35

AberdeenSteve wrote:Agree that Soldado has been usless Hampo, I was just talking generally speaking what was the best move for Tottenham to make when the new manager take the hot seat. I think the guys who mentioned all need a decent run of games, and a little time to adjust to the English game.

De Boer has been great for the youth at Ajax, but a blotch on his CV.. The 5-1 cup final defeat to PEC Zwolle, the Dutch equivalent to that team that always somehow manages to avoid relegation.

pelgrini with wigan twice??

by AberdeenSteve Tue 29 Apr - 19:38

mystiroakey wrote:
AberdeenSteve wrote:Agree that Soldado has been usless Hampo, I was just talking generally speaking what was the best move for Tottenham to make when the new manager take the hot seat. I think the guys who mentioned all need a decent run of games, and a little time to adjust to the English game.

De Boer has been great for the youth at Ajax, but a blotch on his CV.. The 5-1 cup final defeat to PEC Zwolle, the Dutch equivalent to that team that always somehow manages to avoid relegation.

pelgrini with wigan twice??

There is being beaten 2-1 & 1-0, and being beaten 5-1 and totally dominated.

by Guest Tue 29 Apr - 19:45

Wigan beat Pelligrini once Mysti. Mancini shares that honour.

by compelling and rich Tue 29 Apr - 20:08

well looks like we wont be getting ancelotti

by mystiroakey Tue 29 Apr - 20:11

FreekShow wrote:Wigan beat Pelligrini once Mysti. Mancini shares that honour.

arr yes. ta

by compelling and rich Tue 29 Apr - 20:30

compelling and rich wrote:well looks like we wont be getting ancelotti

although on this performance kroos may think its not such a massive step down after all!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 29 Apr - 20:52

Nick have you got access to the v2 footie account?!

by westisbest Wed 30 Apr - 8:07

Mysti

Hearing that Palace are in talks with Lewis Grabbon. £3m.

Heard anything on that?

Done very well for Bournemouth this season.

by NickisBHAFC Wed 30 Apr - 16:08

3 Million, is he really worth that? I was cautious when we nearly got him for 1.2 million. In fact it was the Palace fans telling me he isn't even worth 500 grand!

by mystiroakey Wed 30 Apr - 16:17

I have heard nothing- but as above nick allways knows more about palace than me....

obsessed much Very Happy

the problem is we have brought in a lot of new players and it ends up being pot luck if they can hold on to a spot at a pl team from the lower leagues..

The first players I want signed are ince and Zaha.

We may lose bolasie which would be a killer- but Zaha is much more of a player and ince a great fill in to becoming a starter in a year or so's time.

We spent 4 odd mill on gayle and he is useless in a Pulis team. Sadly we wont get near that back for him. So fingers crossed we can utilise him somehow. i dont want to go crazy buying 14 average players again like holloway did. I would much rather go for 4 good players and keep what we have rather than gambling on players from lower leagues

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 30 Apr - 21:24

Guess who's got Chelsea's payback game this weekend!

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 30 Apr - 21:32

Nailed on survival once you lose Very Happy

by Fernando Wed 30 Apr - 21:33

Olly wrote:Guess who's got Chelsea's payback game this weekend!

Just doesn't get any better does it Laugh

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 30 Apr - 21:36

Well I'm gonna take under 20 mins for Chelsea's first goal

by Fernando Wed 30 Apr - 21:37

I predict Chelsea 1-2 Norwich

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by mystiroakey Wed 30 Apr - 22:17

Gotta feel for Norwich. Palace will hopefully do you lot a favour last game

by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 1 May - 8:48

Chelsea will still think they can win the league...So Norwich have no chance.......

City can mess up a cup of tea and Palace want to finish in front of the fans on a high and are stubborn...1-0 Isn't out of the bounds of possibility and Mourinho will know that.....Though I do expect Liverpool to win !!

Me I think Liverpool win the league still.........My beloved City will stumble probably at home to Villa knowing them.......

History has taught me in the 20 odd years I've followed them to expect the worst..

by westisbest Thu 1 May - 9:16

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Chelsea will still think they can win the league...So Norwich have no chance.......

City can mess up a cup of tea and Palace want to finish in front of the fans on a high and are stubborn...1-0 Isn't out of the bounds of possibility and Mourinho will know that.....Though I do expect Liverpool to win !!

Me I think Liverpool win the league still.........My beloved City will stumble probably at home to Villa knowing them.......History has taught me in the 20 odd years I've followed them to expect the worst..

Well lets hope so: Very Happy

by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 1 May - 9:20

Who do you support Mate ?

by CFCNick Thu 1 May - 9:23

Westy is a villain.

by compelling and rich Thu 1 May - 12:06

CFCNick wrote:Westy is a villain.

yeah but who does he support drumroll

by TopoftheChops Thu 1 May - 12:42

mystiroakey wrote:Gotta feel for Norwich. Palace will hopefully do you lot a favour last game

They'll be down by then

by GSC Thu 1 May - 13:57

Javier Zanetti through the years

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by **Crimey** Thu 1 May - 15:24

Presumably he has Keanu Reeves' condition?

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 1 May - 15:31

In the first one it looks like hes got the same condition as Superman

by Duty281 Thu 1 May - 15:49

Crimey wrote:Presumably he has Keanu Reeves' condition?

He's immortal?

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 1 May - 21:50

The Carlo Nash POTY vote at Norwich? Right or wrong? (google it)

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 1 May - 22:50

Another question:

Villa and Toon fans, why do you want your managers out? And "neutrals" - why should either man, or indeed Allardyce at our place, stay or go?

by mystiroakey Thu 1 May - 22:57

all should stay.

Newcastle are a huge club with a big fan base and a big turnover. he doesn't get the backing financially.

as you said before dolph- what's the point in replacing big sam for someone else like him. but then you do have a soft spot for moyes dont you!!

villa- ok 50/50 on that one. not sure.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 1 May - 22:59

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Another question:

Villa and Toon fans, why do you want your managers out? And "neutrals" - why should either man, or indeed Allardyce at our place, stay or go?

Villa - Lambert - I'm 50/50 here. I think you can make a great case for Lambert going, the on pitch product is so inconsistent, although I do think they've had rotten luck with injuries. But I'd also argue any manger is going to struggle at the minute at Villa, you've got a owner who doesn't want to invest, debts in the club, a youthful squad with players like Baker forced to play despite not being good enough. Its a tough one for me, I can see either way.

Allardyce - West Ham - I understand the style of play argument, I had the same with Hughton. But I do think Allardyce should be given the summer to try and progress the style like Pulis/Hughton were at there clubs. I think he's earnt that with the results he's achieved (safety)

Pardew - Newcastle - Much like Allardyce should be given the summer to make changes, and has factors out of his hands which hamper his management. But results haven't been good enough and I think he's a vile man so I wouldn't mind seeing the back of him

by GSC Thu 1 May - 23:00

Most of Norwichs players have been poop anyway

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 1 May - 23:10

GSC wrote:Most of Norwichs players have been poop anyway

They have indeed, but someone like Olsson's been good all season, played through an injury that's gonna require surgery in the summer, should be player of the season, but won't be cos some idiots thought it'd be funny to vote for Nash, when it's just pathetic and makes a mockery of the Barry Butler trophy, im sure his family are pleased about that btw

by GSC Thu 1 May - 23:12

Nash said hell decline it anyway.

Who cares anyway.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 1 May - 23:42

Its a debate in football, is all. Its a discussion point. I think its interesting. Some suggest it shows a poor support, others say its fair cop.

I can understand all cases to fire. All three are screwed by their Chairmen's reluctance to spend.

Pardew I feel has been mugged, but he lets himself down with his character. The board screwed him in January, and it filtered to the players very easily. Results should have been better, but the fact they've lost no ground just shows how little they had to play for. It feels to me like the fans can't target Ashley now so have chosen someone new.

Lambert. He could have bought a lot better, but his hands are tied too. I really think he'll go on to do more if given the chance, and there's a part of me who'd like him at West Ham, but hes also infuriating and makes a rod for his own back.

Allardyce - I'm still not fussed either way, but his actions don't help, he needs to improve the side and the atmosphere is vile at the club. I think the last part of that is possibly why he should change; the place feels angrier than i've known it. My feeling is that the manager would be easier to replace now than in the season, so if nothing is going to change in his approach then he should go now.

Today we've been linked with ex-Milan manager Allegri. Thats mental.

by westisbest Fri 2 May - 8:22

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Another question:

Villa and Toon fans, why do you want your managers out? And "neutrals" - why should either man, or indeed Allardyce at our place, stay or go?

For me Lambert needs to go.

We need a change. He will just continue to sign cannon fodder in the summer if he stays.
The football under him is poor.

Defence is shocking.
Cant score
Players cant even find their man for a simple pass(mind you most of our playes could'nt find t1ts in a strip club).

3 key positions, centre back(cabnt have another season with Baker/Clarke). Okore will come back, but still another to cover injuries.
Attacking midfielder and another striker, especially with Tekkers out till xmas.

If Lambert stays things will not get better.

He said months ago that we are improving, moving forward. No we're not Paul.
We've done worse this season than last.

We've been a laughing stock since MON left. Finishing 6th 3 seasons in a row, for example.. Now look at us.

Dont get me started on Lerner.

For all the moaning I do(maybe not as much as Olly on Norwich: Very Happy

), I do love this club and will always show my support.

Its sad to see where we are going, from where we once were.

by GSC Fri 2 May - 8:26

Could be worse

by westisbest Fri 2 May - 8:51

Could be.

But still bad enough.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 2 May - 11:25

I think for Villa it'd be a definate risk to get rid of Lambert, he will keep you in the division while you go through this tumultuous time with the lack of funds and the ownership issue.

I can't see you getting back to the levels you were under MON under any manager while Lerner is still in charge.

Tbh you could go the way of a Blackburn if you sack Lambert IMO

He's in the category of could be better, could be worse, and with the state Villa are in at the minute, a bit of stability in the management might not be a bad thing

by GSC Fri 2 May - 11:37

Trust me it really isn't. Villa will still be a PL side next year

by GSC Fri 2 May - 12:05

So Newcastle fans are planning a walkout at the 69th (giggle) minute

Surely itd be better just not to turn up. Ashley still gets his money

by westisbest Fri 2 May - 12:10

GSC wrote:Trust me it really isn't. Villa will still be a PL side next year

Maybe, but we'll still probably be down the bottom, so wont exactly be an enjoyable season.

by GSC Fri 2 May - 12:12

Better than the alternative

by Guest Fri 2 May - 12:22

GSC wrote:So Newcastle fans are planning a walkout at the 69th (giggle) minute

Surely itd be better just not to turn up. Ashley still gets his money

Embarrassing really, won't achieve anything. I don't understand why Newcastle fans can't just understand that we need to wait until the summer to rebuild the squad. I've been saying it since February & even knew this run of form was bound to happen. Yeah, it's been a torrid time but we are still going to finish top 10. Let's just wait until the summer & see what unfolds. If Ashley doesn't re-invest, then something need to be done. Patience is all that's needed.

by GSC Fri 2 May - 13:51

So Mourinho says Hazard isn't ready to sacrifice himself 100% for the team.

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