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Post by Duty281 Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:13 pm

First topic message reminder :

Superb by Mourinho. When are Liverpool at their most dangerous? The first thirty minutes of games; that is, generally, when they tear teams apart.

Not allowed to do that today, though, even against a very weakened Chelsea side. Liverpool didn't get a clear chance all game, and one costly, costly error gave Chelsea what they needed.

That and frustration, as Liverpool rapidly ran out of ideas and invention.

Back in City's hands now - another title won on goal difference?

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Post by skyeman Fri May 02, 2014 3:03 pm

GSC wrote:So Mourinho says Hazard isn't ready to sacrifice himself 100% for the team.


For once, i agree with JM. Hazard won't be there much longer now. You can only get away (sometimes} with what he did if you are one of the best.

Hazard is not one of those.

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Post by GSC Fri May 02, 2014 3:04 pm

Hes on his way though. Chelsea wouldn't be contenders without him.
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Post by skyeman Fri May 02, 2014 3:08 pm

GSC wrote:Hes on his way though. Chelsea wouldn't be contenders without him.


Wait until they make the Suarez, Rooney or Messi deal Very Happy Bales record may be broken.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri May 02, 2014 3:17 pm

GSC wrote:So Newcastle fans are planning a walkout at the 69th (giggle) minute

Surely itd be better just not to turn up. Ashley still gets his money

They're ninth in the table! Ninth!

I'd give my left nut to have the season they've had!
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri May 02, 2014 3:22 pm

So potentially in his first season Jose would've isolated and sold Mata and Hazard.

Madness
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Post by skyeman Fri May 02, 2014 3:58 pm

Olly wrote:So potentially in his first season Jose would've isolated and sold Mata and Hazard.

Madness


You just can't have in Hazard's case players criticise you as a manager, Beckham found that out!

Most managers would get shot.

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Post by compelling and rich Fri May 02, 2014 4:21 pm

hope hazard does leave, we'll be quite happy to take him off there hands just like mata

chelsea have lacked going forward this season with only hazard as there major threat, mourinho might as well just put 11 defenders on if thats all he wants

more hypocrisy from the man as i dont recall him whinging about ronaldo not tracking back

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri May 02, 2014 4:52 pm

Hearing on the grapevine Loza is starting for us sunday
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Post by Bull Fri May 02, 2014 4:55 pm

Going to OT tomorrow here's hoping its a good match.

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Post by The Special Juan Fri May 02, 2014 5:06 pm

If Hazard's up for grabs I'll take him. He'd be a perfect fit for Utd on the wing.
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Post by GSC Fri May 02, 2014 5:16 pm

He'd go PSG most likely. Maybe Bayern
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Post by Guest Fri May 02, 2014 5:30 pm

I think Bayern have Draxler viewed as a long term replacement for Robben or Ribery. I can't see Hazard going anywhere, he made a defensive mistake, the team went out & some comments got said which have been blown out of proportion. Blow over very quickly. As for United getting Hazard.....yeah ok.

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Post by J.Benson II Fri May 02, 2014 5:35 pm

Can't see Chelsea selling Hazard. He's their best player and one of the top 3 players in the league.
Would be sheer madness.
Mata was understandable since he was unfavoured by Mourinho but Hazard has been Chelsea's main man.

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Post by Crimey Fri May 02, 2014 6:21 pm

I can understand a player like Hazard getting frustrated in the Chelsea side, in the same way I imagine Mata got frustrated. They are attacking players who want to express themselves creatively so I imagine being constricted as he has been since December gets incredibly annoying especially when there are teams like PSG sniffing around who do play attacking football and would give him a lot more freedom.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri May 02, 2014 7:11 pm

Especially as there is no skill in defending

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Post by Guest Fri May 02, 2014 7:16 pm

I remember when Mourinho said that Ricardo Carvalho had a small brain.

The Special One is getting soft in his old age.

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Post by skyeman Fri May 02, 2014 9:10 pm

He will be gone.

When a manager says a player does not give 100%, that is pretty detrimental to a player. And the player not liking the managers tactics Rolling Eyes 

Managers and players say plenty against each other and keep the faith but that is irreversible.

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Post by Liam Fri May 02, 2014 9:23 pm

Its an interesting one. I mean, who would have honestly thought Mata would go to utd. We all wondered why Jose didn't want to play him, and it was because he wouldn't work as hard in defence as he does in attack, and off he was to utd.

Seems a very similar scenario with Hazard. To say comments like that about a player can almost destroy a relationship between player and manager. It seems an awkward fit and I can honestly see Chelsea accepting a big bid from PSG if it comes in the summer, and Jose will replace him with someone who fits his philosophy, simple as.

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Post by compelling and rich Fri May 02, 2014 9:31 pm

i think mourinhos losing a bit if he doesnt want hazard. think he's getting too caught up in the everybody defends in my team concept. he's becoming a parody of himself

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Post by Duty281 Fri May 02, 2014 9:34 pm

Liam wrote:Jose will replace him with someone who fits his philosophy, simple as.

James Milner? He doesn't mind a bit of tracking back every now and then.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri May 02, 2014 9:36 pm

great player as well milner- comes on and changes citeh for the better.


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Post by Guest Fri May 02, 2014 9:39 pm

I like Milner. Unsung hero and model pro that will probably forgotten about in 10 years time, sadly.

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Post by The Special Juan Fri May 02, 2014 9:47 pm

FreekShow wrote:I like Milner. Unsung hero and model pro that will probably forgotten about in 10 years time, sadly.

10 years is being generous. I'm with you though, we need to see more players like him as a person.
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Post by Guest Fri May 02, 2014 9:53 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
FreekShow wrote:I like Milner. Unsung hero and model pro that will probably forgotten about in 10 years time, sadly.

10 years is being generous.  I'm with you though, we need to see more players like him as a person.

As apposed to more players like him as an alien?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri May 02, 2014 9:55 pm

GSC, you think every player will end up at Bayern or PSG so your comments have to be taken with a pinch of salt.

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Post by Guest Fri May 02, 2014 10:00 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:GSC, you think every player will end up at Bayern or PSG so your comments have to be taken with a pinch of salt.

You throw enough mud at a wall eventually some of it will stick I suppose.

Hazard will stay put. Mourinho will go before he does.

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Post by The Special Juan Fri May 02, 2014 10:01 pm

FreekShow wrote:
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FreekShow wrote:I like Milner. Unsung hero and model pro that will probably forgotten about in 10 years time, sadly.

10 years is being generous.  I'm with you though, we need to see more players like him as a person.

As apposed to more players like him as an alien?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri May 02, 2014 10:10 pm

Crimey wrote:I can understand a player like Hazard getting frustrated in the Chelsea side, in the same way I imagine Mata got frustrated. They are attacking players who want to express themselves creatively so I imagine being constricted as he has been since December gets incredibly annoying especially when there are teams like PSG sniffing around who do play attacking football and would give him a lot more freedom.

Cos PSG went to Chelsea and showed loads of ambition...
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri May 02, 2014 10:11 pm

Hazard wont go anywhere.

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Post by compelling and rich Fri May 02, 2014 10:22 pm

FreekShow wrote:I like Milner. Unsung hero and model pro that will probably forgotten about in 10 years time, sadly.

james who?  Headscratch 

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Post by Hero Fri May 02, 2014 10:30 pm

I'll be surprised if PSG spend much this summer, I suspect the FFP will although lenient this time will give them a stern warning on spending this window.
They could always do a Hazard/Cavani swap though.

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Post by Guest Fri May 02, 2014 10:31 pm

compelling and rich wrote:
FreekShow wrote:I like Milner. Unsung hero and model pro that will probably forgotten about in 10 minutes time, sadly.

james who?  Headscratch 

Point proven.

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Post by Hero Fri May 02, 2014 10:33 pm

I think Milner is a unsung top player as well, a few friends go to watch City most weeks and they rate him so highly when he plays.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri May 02, 2014 10:41 pm

he will be a key substitute for roy as well.

he may do so well as one first game he may end up starting the second!

Against Bayern and liverpool(both aways) he totally changed citeh, and it wasnt just solid english grit he loves linking up and getting forward

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Post by compelling and rich Fri May 02, 2014 10:45 pm

to be fair most players who sit on the bench for large periods will be forgotten in the future. tidy footballer who should have stuck it out at cm, never been a top winger as he has no pace and cant beat a man

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri May 02, 2014 10:47 pm

compelling and rich wrote:to be fair most players who sit on the bench for large periods will be forgotten in the future. tidy footballer who should have stuck it out at cm, never been a top winger as he has no pace and cant beat a man

But unlike many English wingers, he can actually cross the ball
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Post by Guest Fri May 02, 2014 10:49 pm

Olly wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:to be fair most players who sit on the bench for large periods will be forgotten in the future. tidy footballer who should have stuck it out at cm, never been a top winger as he has no pace and cant beat a man

But unlike many English wingers, he can actually cross the ball

Yup. Beckham played many games wide and had no pace but he could whip a mean ball in.

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Post by The Special Juan Fri May 02, 2014 10:49 pm

Hero wrote:I think Milner is a unsung top player as well, a few friends go to watch City most weeks and they rate him so highly when he plays.

A true United fan would never have City mates boxing
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Post by mystiroakey Fri May 02, 2014 10:50 pm

milner is no becks, but he is certainly a very effective sub.

I would love to see him start more

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Post by Guest Fri May 02, 2014 10:51 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
Hero wrote:I think Milner is a unsung top player as well, a few friends go to watch City most weeks and they rate him so highly when he plays.

A true United fan would never have City mates boxing

Hero probably befriended them when they were nothing. Nothing I tell ya.

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Post by Hero Fri May 02, 2014 10:54 pm

Ah the days of mocking them when City were in the same division as Macclesfield are long gone unfortunately.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri May 02, 2014 10:55 pm

Just think about when palace are the best team in the world and barca fans will be commenting on playing like palace in there good games because they wear there strip. just wait lads- its gonna happen to us when crystal palace becomes the in place in london to be again- once that chinese trillionaire rebuilds the 'crystal palace' and the tube line gets there.  we will then get a buyer that has more money than sense but also be an ethical chap and understands footie.


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Post by Guest Fri May 02, 2014 11:00 pm

I can see it now Mysti. An asian billionaire rolls up at Selhurst Park and before you know it we all hate that team of pampered superstars in red that is Crystal Temple.


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Post by mystiroakey Fri May 02, 2014 11:01 pm

I like it Freek. Belive!!

I suppose the most annoying thing for united fans is that we feel sorry for them. When you are hated you are doing something right.


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Post by The Special Juan Fri May 02, 2014 11:02 pm

FreekShow wrote:I can see it now Mysti. An asian billionaire rolls up at Selhurst Park and before you know it we all hate that team of pampered superstars in red that is Crystal Temple.


Or an American and rebrands them as the Palace Crystals.
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Post by mystiroakey Fri May 02, 2014 11:05 pm

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FreekShow wrote:I can see it now Mysti. An asian billionaire rolls up at Selhurst Park and before you know it we all hate that team of pampered superstars in red that is Crystal Temple.


Or an American and rebrands them as the Palace Crystals.


pffft, dont mess with the name or the colours..

If we got a tan i would support Millwall and I HATE Millwall

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Post by Guest Fri May 02, 2014 11:08 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
FreekShow wrote:I can see it now Mysti. An asian billionaire rolls up at Selhurst Park and before you know it we all hate that team of pampered superstars in red that is Crystal Temple.


Or an American and rebrands them as the Palace Crystals.

Or a syndicate of South Central LA money laundering gangsters take control and there we are:

Pistol Malice.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri May 02, 2014 11:11 pm

Crystal Palace is the best name for any team in the world- why would you change that stylish name.

but i like Pistol Malice- maybe brighton with their weird fascination with us should rename themselves that.

When we called ourselves the eagles back in the day , that was one of the main reasons they started the rivalry(because they are the seagulls)


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Post by socal1976 Sat May 03, 2014 6:04 am

J.Benson II wrote:Can't see Chelsea selling Hazard. He's their best player and one of the top 3 players in the league.
Would be sheer madness.
Mata was understandable since he was unfavoured by Mourinho but Hazard has been Chelsea's main man.

That is exactly how mata was viewed last year, didn't Mata win Chelsea's player of the year twice and wasn't in the top 3 or 4 in terms of voting for player of the year after RVP and Suarez? Jose ruined Mata, I like for Mata to be much better once he settles in at United. As for Hazard I don't see him going anywhere but the Mata situation and the Hazard situation were eerily similar. People forget how good Mata was for Chelsea in the seasons prior to Jose's arrival. These guys weren't chopped liver they won the European cup without Jose.

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Post by westisbest Sat May 03, 2014 4:17 pm

Great start from Villa.

Now lets get that W.

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