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Post by Duty281 Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:44 pm

First topic message reminder :

beninho wrote:Instead of a protest vote, then its better to spoil your ballot.

Ukip are dangerous because some people actually believe what they say, and they target the middle classes in areas of law multi culturalism - ( if thats a word). And as gets shown every now and then, the Councillors they put up have been shown as a bit racist. But its easy for them to make grand statements, because realistically they will not get voted in and have to back up the statements they have made.  

Have no fear, the nutters are getting kicked out at regular intervals.

And some people may believe what they say for, a lot of the time, it's common sense.

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Post by navyblueshorts Tue May 13, 2014 11:59 am

McLaren wrote:When asked to pick a 5 aside team from the bbc world cup pundits, rio responded to where Savage could play be saying that savage could clean his boots.  
Exactly. A prat. Hahaha! Banter! What a wit! Savage (like him or loathe him) will have a far more successful post-playing career than Ferdinand as he actually appears to have a bit of brain in there, despite the evidence of his playing days.
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Post by Diggers Tue May 13, 2014 12:06 pm

Come off it, that's exactly the sort of comment Savage would make on Twitter and not give a monkeys about. It's changing room banter, Christ of you can get offended by proxy for Savage because of a comment like that then you have a thin skin.
Try taking a look at the community work he does in London to stop kids joining gangs. Or just judge him on a throwaway joke instead.....

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Post by super_realist Tue May 13, 2014 12:13 pm

Offended by proxy. LIke that one diggers. I'll file that next no faux-fence and synthetic outrage.

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Post by kwinigolfer Tue May 13, 2014 12:29 pm

Does Daniel Levy sound like the most unpleasant person in Sport?
Discuss.

Of course, there's loads of competition, but he sounds like such a miserable, entitled prat; can't imagine anyone actually wanting to work with him (as opposed to the tradition of a one-time great club).

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Post by lorus59 Tue May 13, 2014 12:45 pm

Throughout history many football chairmen have been egomaniacs. Think of Ken Bates, Doug Ellis, Sam Hamman......the list goes on.

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Post by raycastleunited Tue May 13, 2014 12:50 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
McLaren wrote:When asked to pick a 5 aside team from the bbc world cup pundits, rio responded to where Savage could play be saying that savage could clean his boots.  
Exactly. A prat. Hahaha! Banter! What a wit! Savage (like him or loathe him) will have a far more successful post-playing career than Ferdinand as he actually appears to have a bit of brain in there, despite the evidence of his playing days.

That's right, judge him on a joke that you don't find funny, even though you weren't there, don't know either person and so have no clue as to the context within which the remark was made. I can see a future for you at the Daily Mail.

Ferdinand doesn't come across as the smartest tool in the box, but he certainly doesn't come across as nasty either. He's been a fantastic player for well over a decade, and even though he's not fully fit his ability to read the game and his composure on the ball mean he could still do a decent job at any team outside the elite champions league level.

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Post by Diggers Tue May 13, 2014 12:53 pm

Bates must win the prize of biggest shyster chairman surely. Though Mike Ashley might overtake him in years to come...or at least I hope so.

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Post by raycastleunited Tue May 13, 2014 1:05 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Does Daniel Levy sound like the most unpleasant person in Sport?
Discuss.

Of course, there's loads of competition, but he sounds like such a miserable, entitled prat; can't imagine anyone actually wanting to work with him (as opposed to the tradition of a one-time great club).

You're right there is loads of competition.

The undoubted king was Jesus Gil of Atletico Madrid and mayor of Marbella. He successfully turned Marbella into a haven for gangsters and ex-nazis, and left Atletico in EUR500m debt. He's been dead for a while now but Levy still has some way to go before he can step into his shoes. Surely Vincent Tan at the moment is leading the way as number one bond sports villain

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Post by super_realist Tue May 13, 2014 1:08 pm

The Birmingham guy was a crook.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue May 13, 2014 5:02 pm

Yeah Tan is a lunatic. Reminds me of the dude from hangover.

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Post by pedro Tue May 13, 2014 9:52 pm

Yes Jesus Gil was nuts. And Tan looks like one of the aforementioned Marbella gangsters, smuggling khat from North Africa.

Uli Hoeness of Bayern proved to be quite an a-hole as well. (Although tax evasion is not a new thing in football)

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Post by McLaren Wed May 14, 2014 4:47 am

It seems Elin is pretty damn smart;

Spoiler:

There is no way Tiger stood a chance in hiding his antics from her, and he is maybe even dumber than Super likes to make out if he thought he could.
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Post by super_realist Wed May 14, 2014 7:54 am

Getting a degree isn't a hallmark of intelligence. ANyone can get one, and almost the majority of people do these days.

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Post by McLaren Wed May 14, 2014 8:09 am

Super

Watch the video before commenting.
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Post by super_realist Wed May 14, 2014 8:31 am

You expect us to sit through that?

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Post by pedro Wed May 14, 2014 8:55 am

The only thing Elin needs to know:"Half is mine"

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Post by navyblueshorts Wed May 14, 2014 9:03 am

Diggers wrote:Come off it, that's exactly the sort of comment Savage would make on Twitter and not give a monkeys about. It's changing room banter, Christ of you can get offended by proxy for Savage because of a comment like that then you have a thin skin.
Try taking a look at the community work he does in London to stop kids joining gangs. Or just judge him on a throwaway joke instead.....
Offended? I think you need to look up the definition. I just think it's typical of the numbnuts comments I expect of Ferdinand. No more, no less.
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Post by navyblueshorts Wed May 14, 2014 9:07 am

raycastleunited wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
McLaren wrote:When asked to pick a 5 aside team from the bbc world cup pundits, rio responded to where Savage could play be saying that savage could clean his boots.  
Exactly. A prat. Hahaha! Banter! What a wit! Savage (like him or loathe him) will have a far more successful post-playing career than Ferdinand as he actually appears to have a bit of brain in there, despite the evidence of his playing days.

That's right, judge him on a joke that you don't find funny, even though you weren't there, don't know either person and so have no clue as to the context within which the remark was made. I can see a future for you at the Daily Mail.

Ferdinand doesn't come across as the smartest tool in the box, but he certainly doesn't come across as nasty either. He's been a fantastic player for well over a decade, and even though he's not fully fit his ability to read the game and his composure on the ball mean he could still do a decent job at any team outside the elite champions league level.
That's so laughable it's ridiculous. You go off on one re. me commenting on Ferdinand and then do exactly the same re. me. Mr. Pot? Meet Mr. Kettle. You even go on to say "Ferdinand doesn't come across as the smartest tool in the box" - obviously you know the man well. I never said anything about his playing ability, which has been exceptional for a long time, did I but don't let that get in the way of your rant.
Oh, I wouldn't use the Daily Fascist for bog paper btw so I guess that shows, again, what you know about me eh?
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Post by gaelgowfer Wed May 14, 2014 10:02 am

super_realist wrote:Getting a degree isn't a hallmark of intelligence...

I very much doubt this was her reason for taking a degree course.  I would imagine it had more to do with her re-gaining her self-confidence and self-respect after enduring such humiliation at the hands of Woods.

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Post by Diggers Wed May 14, 2014 10:18 am

navyblueshorts wrote:
Diggers wrote:Come off it, that's exactly the sort of comment Savage would make on Twitter and not give a monkeys about. It's changing room banter, Christ of you can get offended by proxy for Savage because of a comment like that then you have a thin skin.
Try taking a look at the community work he does in London to stop kids joining gangs. Or just judge him on a throwaway joke instead.....
Offended? I think you need to look up the definition. I just think it's typical of the numbnuts comments I expect of Ferdinand. No more, no less.

That's the point though really NBS, its what you expec,t regardless of if its actually what he does or how he behaves the vast majority of the time. I would suggest its a slightly pre conditioned view in your mind of how a footballer like Ferdinand should be.
Lets face it we have all said some pretty stupid stuff on here, you and I being no exceptions...me probably more so...possibly...but does that mean we are complete numb nuts al the time. Hmm, again possibly.
Anyway the basic premise is a little knowledge is a dangerous thing when judging someone...unless of course its Ian Poultry in which case none of my points are applicable  Whistle


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Post by McLaren Wed May 14, 2014 10:21 am

Gael

If super had bothered to watch the video instead of commenting as an ignorant privileged white strait male he might have found out she won an awarding for outstanding results and that is why she was allowed to make the speech.  As you say, I am sure she decided to get a degree for very good reasons.
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Post by mystiroakey Wed May 14, 2014 10:25 am

McLaren wrote:Gael

If super had bothered to watch the video instead of commenting as an ignorant privileged white strait male he might have found out she won an awarding for outstanding results and that is why she was allowed to make the speech.  As you say, I am sure she decided to get a degree for very good reasons.


Even I don't treat English as badly as that Mac.


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Post by navyblueshorts Wed May 14, 2014 12:03 pm

Diggers wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
Diggers wrote:Come off it, that's exactly the sort of comment Savage would make on Twitter and not give a monkeys about. It's changing room banter, Christ of you can get offended by proxy for Savage because of a comment like that then you have a thin skin.
Try taking a look at the community work he does in London to stop kids joining gangs. Or just judge him on a throwaway joke instead.....
Offended? I think you need to look up the definition. I just think it's typical of the numbnuts comments I expect of Ferdinand. No more, no less.

That's the point though really NBS, its what you expec,t regardless of if its actually what he does or how he behaves the vast majority of the time. I would suggest its a slightly pre conditioned view in your mind of how a footballer like Ferdinand should be.
Lets face it we have all said some pretty stupid stuff on here, you and I being no exceptions...me probably more so...possibly...but does that mean we are complete numb nuts al the time. Hmm, again possibly.
Anyway the basic premise is a little knowledge is a dangerous thing when judging someone...unless of course its Ian Poultry in which case none of my points are applicable  Whistle
True, sadly. Very true. Especially the bit about Poulter.
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Post by mystiroakey Wed May 14, 2014 1:30 pm

He is of course completely correct apart from the bit about Poulter Wink

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Post by navyblueshorts Wed May 14, 2014 3:05 pm

mystiroakey wrote:He is of course completely correct apart from the bit about Poulter Wink
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Post by Diggers Wed May 14, 2014 3:13 pm

I'm just happy to be nearly completely right about anything  Smile

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Post by McLaren Thu May 15, 2014 2:44 am

I thought this was pretty funny, and it might help reform our special relationship with our American buddies after the spat over names.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mattbellassai/british-slang-as-guessed-by-american

An American comes up with some pretty funny meanings for some common UK slang terms. Hell, it could just be reading something rude but it seemed funny to me. I particularly liked the redefining of up the duff. (when used in the actual sense is a terrible expression)
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Post by navyblueshorts Thu May 15, 2014 10:20 am

When I was a student, knew a Texan once who suggested a female friend of mine was 'spunky' when we were in a bar. As I recall, he liked her 'pants' as well. Now picture the scene of a Western film when the good guy walks into the bar containing the bad guy whom he's just threatened to run out of town....
Had a good laugh about it once he'd explained what he meant.
Language is pretty interesting when you start looking at it.
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Post by pedro Thu May 15, 2014 10:56 am

I say potato, Dan Quayle says potatoe.

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Post by gaelgowfer Thu May 15, 2014 1:51 pm

Well, the assurance that he would not touch the Ailsa course without the R&A's blessing didn't last long did it ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-27426843

Quelle surprise.  Rolling Eyes

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Post by super_realist Thu May 15, 2014 1:57 pm

Who cares Gael, why do you always think change is a bad thing, or is it only when Wiggy does something, honestly, that man could cure cancer and you still wouldn't be happy.
It's tiresome.

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Post by gaelgowfer Thu May 15, 2014 2:12 pm

Point missed sr and not for the first time.

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Post by super_realist Thu May 15, 2014 2:55 pm

Yes, he said he wouldn't change it, and he said he might "tweak" it, big deal, it's just a golf course, not a work of art.

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Post by kwinigolfer Thu May 15, 2014 3:17 pm

Having said all of which; I can't see that the R&A would consider awarding The Open to a venue that will be tweaked without their consultation . . . . . .
It certainly wouldn'y fly with the USGA and can't imagine the R&A telling Drumpf,
"Go ahead, put in all the windmills (not for windpower though) and waterfalls you want and we'll be thrilled to come and look at it the week before the 2018/2019/2021/2022 Open which we'll now award you carte blanche."

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Post by super_realist Thu May 15, 2014 3:31 pm

A bit melodramatic Kwini, he might not be a likeable man, but he understands the importance of Golf in Scotland. His Aberdeen course is a masterpiece.

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Post by kwinigolfer Thu May 15, 2014 3:41 pm

Yes, But anyone who trusts him to do "the right thing" is delusional.

Perhaps one day his resurrection of Doral's Blue Course will be seen as a masterpiece also, but, in its March 2014 manifestation, it was a travesty. Waterlogged carnage for the sake of it.
And he loved it.
Be careful what you might wish for!

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Post by beninho Thu May 15, 2014 3:50 pm

Turnberry only held 4 opens. Would it matter if it never held another anyway.

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Post by super_realist Thu May 15, 2014 3:54 pm

I think The Open is pretty rubbish anyway.

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Post by JAS Fri May 16, 2014 7:00 am

gaelgowfer wrote:Well, the assurance that he would not touch the Ailsa course without the R&A's blessing didn't last long did it ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-27426843

Quelle surprise.  Rolling Eyes

Bit of a stretch to interpret from a very flimsy and weakly researched piece of journalism (not unusual from the beeb when it comes to golf!!) that he plans to rip the bulldozers into the Ailsa Course??.
Where does the article specifically say that he IS going to change the Ailsa Course WITHOUT consulting the R&A? Really Gael, what makes you jump on this utter non story nonsense??

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Post by McLaren Fri May 16, 2014 7:27 am

Excluding Gael and Kwini, as they seem to get what is wrong with trump and the way he behaves. What is it about him that the rest of you admire so much?

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Post by Davie Fri May 16, 2014 7:30 am

Mac obviously a believer in the law of the excluded middle (google it Mac - your speciality)

Don't really understand the hatred towards him - perhaps a little more understandable from Kwini as he lives in the USA where Trump is more prevalent - but Gael seems to have a very irrational dislike for the man

Does everyone else admire him? I doubt it. Indifference may be a better description

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Post by JAS Fri May 16, 2014 8:05 am

McLaren wrote:Excluding Gael and Kwini, as they seem to get what is wrong with trump and the way he behaves.  What is it about him that the rest of you admire so much?


Mac...find me one quote, just one, from anywhere on these boards where I have said I admire Trump. The man is an utterly detestable egotistical buffoon.

Just because he's a buffoon doesn't mean that his Aberdeen course isn't a stunning golf course.
Just because he's a buffoon doesn't automatically mean that he's going to wreck Turnberry
Just because he's a buffoon doesn't mean that global warming is all his fault

It's quite amusing the way Gael and yourself foam at the mouth and let your personal judgement and sound rational argument get distorted by your emotional hatred of Wiggie

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Post by super_realist Fri May 16, 2014 8:07 am

McLaren wrote:Excluding Gael and Kwini, as they seem to get what is wrong with trump and the way he behaves.  What is it about him that the rest of you admire so much?


NObody as said that he's a great bloke, or that we agree with the way he does business, just that gael seems to jump on everything he does with zeal.
She wouldn't give a toss if Branson bought Turnberry and thought about "tweaking" it. SHe just likes bashing Trump for the sake of it, and he hasn't even done anything wrong in this case, just changed his mind on what he "might" do.

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Post by Diggers Fri May 16, 2014 8:26 am

So, no suprise, looks like getting rid of legal aid is meaning cases are taking twice as long so of course no money is being saved.
Plus it's far more confusing for those having to represent themselves. Another stupid policy backfiring.

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Post by Roller_Coaster Fri May 16, 2014 9:51 am

Diggers wrote:So, no suprise, looks like getting rid of legal aid is meaning cases are taking twice as long so of course no money is being saved.
Plus it's far more confusing for those having to represent themselves. Another stupid policy backfiring.

I blame Trump.

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Post by gaelgowfer Fri May 16, 2014 9:57 am

Oh dear, a case of mass hysteria has broken out on the board.  Quelle surprise!!!

Where does the article specifically say that he IS going to change the Ailsa Course WITHOUT consulting the R&A? Really Gael, what makes you jump on this utter non story nonsense??

Because JAS dear, it would be entirely in character for him to act this way.  Still, involving the R&A for their advice on any tweaking could be viewed as (I have to admit) quite a clever ploy to rope them in making it almost impossible for them not to take The Open to Turnberry at some point in the future.  No question that Turnberry is a stunning venue but it falls considerably short on profits as an Open venue.  Potentially, a bit of a conundrum for the R&A though.        

Incidentally, some of you have very short memories.  I can't forget the treatment he's meted out (and continues to mete out) to those homeowners in Aberdeen.  Aside from the fact the views from their homes continue to be blocked, they still live day to day under the threat of eviction.  Should relations ever be restored between Trump and Aberdeenshire Council then who's going to bet against the council serving compulsory purchase orders on those homeowners in order to progress this potentially huge development? Perhaps you can compartmentalize Trump's deeds but I can't and I make no apologies for it.

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Post by super_realist Fri May 16, 2014 10:00 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27435624

More scaremongering and stupidity from the loonies.

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Post by super_realist Fri May 16, 2014 10:04 am

I can't imagine Gael gives a toss about those "poor" people in Balmedie and simply uses it as another way to bash Trump.

Why would Gael even care if Trump changed Turnberry, it belongs to him. Would Trump care if Gael changed her net curtains without consulting him?

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Post by Diggers Fri May 16, 2014 10:10 am

Re Trump, Id probably say genuinely in life it's probably wise to not set a lot of store in the word of a self serving egomaniac who has a track record of shafting people.
It would be sensible to assume every word he utters is a lie and be pleasantly surprised if he occasionally tells the truth.


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Post by Diggers Fri May 16, 2014 10:13 am

Super if you own something with a heritage you have an obligation to protect that heritage. That's why we have listed property, ownership doesn't necessarily give you carte blanche to do what you want with a property.

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