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Post by GSC Wed May 14, 2014 4:17 am

First topic message reminder :

Seems as though Joe Cole has been released by West Ham, might be a solid bargain for a lower league team if hes prepared to drop
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Post by GSC Thu May 29, 2014 12:33 pm

Obvious solution is to bench/sell Carroll.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu May 29, 2014 1:01 pm

Not gonna happen, nor should it really. I don't really want to throw money on a striker again, it wont solve anything as its the support that is our major problem. Never anyone near the striker unless we build ridiculously slow so Nolan can get up there.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu May 29, 2014 2:21 pm

Sky reporting that Liverpool have all but agreed a fee for Ricky Lambert.

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Post by Guest Thu May 29, 2014 2:31 pm

Oh dear brendan Rodgers  picard picard picard 

Lambert at Liverpool, never, ever good enough.

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Post by Fernando Thu May 29, 2014 2:37 pm

8m for Rickie Lambert to sit on the bench...Not sure it's worth it tbh unless Suarez is off to Madrid, Aspas & Borini are better options well Borini is for sure.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu May 29, 2014 2:49 pm

Good player, on the down slope though

Don't really think he fits Liverpool's style either, despite being good on the ball

Need a backup striker for sure, go get a young developmental guy for 8m I say
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Post by compelling and rich Thu May 29, 2014 2:54 pm

ricky lambert?? seriously? will have Europe quaking in there boots that one

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Post by The Special Juan Thu May 29, 2014 2:55 pm

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Post by Fernando Thu May 29, 2014 3:02 pm

Conspiracy Theory

With Bournemouth having a sell on fee on Lallana could be doing this as a way to get around losing money on him.  Whistle 

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu May 29, 2014 3:04 pm

You know what, I think it might be a very good deal. I think Lambert would probably be quite happy to be a bench option considering his love for Liverpool and his age. Will score goals from there, will score when used from the start against lower teams. I don't think they'll get a better option for the price.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu May 29, 2014 3:08 pm

I think Lambert's a good player, and could probably do a job, but for a 32 year old £9m is a fair whack, and I'm not sure he's got the quickness to fit the style even though he has the vision and technical ability
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu May 29, 2014 3:09 pm

Sad indictment of modern football though. Likelihood is all three of Southampton's world cup players will never play for them again, whilst they've lost their young manager and could lose Rodriguez too. Once a team shows any signs of building something good they just get taken apart. Even La Liga winners and CL finalists Atletico look to be losing players to our third placed side.

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Post by compelling and rich Thu May 29, 2014 3:12 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:You know what, I think it might be a very good deal. I think Lambert would probably be quite happy to be a bench option considering his love for Liverpool and his age. Will score goals from there, will score when used from the start against lower teams. I don't think they'll get a better option for the price.

there must be better foreign options out there, the likes of hernandez, benteke, remy, michu were all brought in at a much younger age and much cheaper. i also reckon all of the above would do a better job in the liverpool team than lambert

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Post by compelling and rich Thu May 29, 2014 3:14 pm

to be fair though if i was a southampton fan the one player i would be least worried about losing is lambert. if this means they keep on to one of the other players linked away id be delighted at 9mil

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Post by Duty281 Thu May 29, 2014 3:18 pm

Why would Liverpool want to sign Lambert? He hasn't got much of a future, and has nowhere near the ability of Sturridge or Suarez. He'll just sit on the bench and rot.

Borini offers more of a future, and I'm sure there's plenty of better, younger strikers that Liverpool could sign, given that they're in the Champions League and have title aspirations.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu May 29, 2014 3:25 pm

Sunderland sign Jordi Gomez on a free on a three year deal

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Post by GSC Thu May 29, 2014 3:55 pm

Southampton have rejected bids for Shaw and Lallana apparently
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu May 29, 2014 4:00 pm

I just think Lambert has proved he'll score goals in the Prem, wont kick up a fuss to be a bench option, gives them a different approach. He's not exactly going to lose out as his pace drops, he's never been fast anyway. He's got 2-3 years at least. And hes smart enough to use the pace playing off him. Seems reasonably easy.

Borini to me looks nothing like being worth much more than a 4th option. If one of Suarez or Sturridge is injured you play Coutinho and Sterling rather than just one over playing Borini. But Lambert is completely different. And, of course, the gamble of signing an option like Benteke or Michu etc is you get it wrong (which hes done a few times) and it isnt worth it. Lambert won't need to adjust at all and won't go mad cos hes stuck not playing in Liverpool.

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Post by Guest Thu May 29, 2014 4:18 pm

At first, I thought oh dear but on reflection, it might be a decent option. He won't kick up a fuss as he`ll do anything to play for his beloved Liverpool. He can score goals n will allow Suarez to rest with extra euro games. Yeah, he's old, over priced but its not a bank breaker. He's not the `starter` signing that BR was stating he wanted to add to the first XI, but he adds depth. Players like Remy will want guaranteed places, with Suarez, Liverpool can't offer that.

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Post by compelling and rich Thu May 29, 2014 4:27 pm

bbc reporting it 4mil plus add ons, much more acceptable if true

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Post by Gregers Thu May 29, 2014 4:29 pm

Could be a very good signing by Liverpool, Lambert offers something different when plan A doesnt work (Liverpool did not have a Plan B this season) so this will help them a lot

Also helps with homegrown for CL, will be happy to be on the bench, can easily slot in when Sturridge gets his usual midseason injury

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Post by GSC Thu May 29, 2014 4:37 pm

Don't see the point tbh. Not good enough for the level Liverpool aspire to, no upside at 32 and likely to decline in the near future. Pretty underwhelming
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Post by compelling and rich Thu May 29, 2014 4:37 pm

im getting confused, they got rid of Carroll because BR didn't want to play that style. now its a good signing to get lambert in who's similar?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu May 29, 2014 4:44 pm

A pretty poor signing truth be told, not going to help them push onto the next level.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu May 29, 2014 4:57 pm

If hes £4m plus add ons then its a steal and a great option. I could see him adding 10 goals a season and adding a chance to rest strikers and also a different option. Id say if they had him in the run in last season then they win the league.

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Post by GSC Thu May 29, 2014 4:58 pm

Why. He wouldn't have done anything vs Chelsea which lost them the league
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu May 29, 2014 4:59 pm

Not sure what difference he makes in the Chelsea game Dolph, aside from that they had won 12 games in a row, the palace game looks bad but the title was gone by then effectively.

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Post by GSC Thu May 29, 2014 5:02 pm

4m for a 32 year old almost shipped out in Jan to lower half clubs.

Gonna need more convincing on that one. Might be value at 4m in a vacuum but not a good fit for Liverpools style, nor their ambitions.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu May 29, 2014 5:05 pm

Rodgers doesn't have a plan B or any ambition to play a plan B

If he did he'd have kept Carroll
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu May 29, 2014 5:07 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:If hes £4m plus add ons then its a steal and a great option. I could see him adding 10 goals a season and adding a chance to rest strikers and also a different option. Id say if they had him in the run in last season then they win the league.
Suarez and Sturbridge couldn't do it but Lambert would've done? Cmon Dolph
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Post by Duty281 Thu May 29, 2014 5:22 pm

Liverpool should sign Grant Holt as well!

He'd be a right bargain at £2 million!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu May 29, 2014 5:25 pm

Duty281 wrote:Liverpool should sign Grant Holt as well!

He'd be a right bargain at £2 million!
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Post by Guest Thu May 29, 2014 5:26 pm

I think its a shocking signing but who else is going to come in & be happy as the backup, as Lambert will be. He will do a job & he's a proven scorer of around 10 goals, but that's it. Its hardly the signing of a club who`s trying to push on & capitalise after being in the duldrums for so long. Underwhelming, but if its £4m + add ons, its just about a decent deal + adds depth. Liverpool need to focus elsewhere n spend big, like at left back on Moreno & a holding midfielder.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu May 29, 2014 5:49 pm

I honestly think having the option would have been massive for them. That little Chelsea defender, name escapes me, wouldnt have had a clue how to handle Lambert. I think he'd have been good late against Palace too, holding up the ball, range of passing to keep it too. The fact is, they had no other options up front. Let alone the fact he'd have also been around for the earlier games to add goals.

I find it baffling that you think he couldnt have had that impact. Considering the position they were in, I think having him off the bench in that Chelsea game could have easily got them a goal and would have stopped the very repetitive play they had going. Takes two men too. Screaming out for someone like him in that game. I think they could probably draw that and then I dont even think the Palace capitulation happens without the Chelsea loss.

Snobbery on this board sometimes. Third choice striker who is proven to score Prem goals and has proven at Southampton that he is very good at bringing others in to play.

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Post by Kurt N. Jurqa Thu May 29, 2014 5:56 pm

Just bring him on for the penalties Liverpool get.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu May 29, 2014 5:56 pm

Well he didn't score against them in either game for Southampton, he's easy pickings for Cahill and Terry, if Suarez and Sturridge didn't trouble them then Lambert sure as hell isn't going to.

Again against Palace it wasn't going forward that they had a problem it was the fact they couldn't defend a league because their defence is awful.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu May 29, 2014 6:01 pm

Cahill and Terry werent playing. He'd be playing for a better team. He'd give them a different option to vary their attack and he'd create space.

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Post by GSC Thu May 29, 2014 6:14 pm

Liverpool couldve played until July and they wouldn't have got any decent service
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Post by NickisBHAFC Thu May 29, 2014 6:36 pm

Liverpool signing Lambert for 9 million is beyond stupid. Lambert is a great player don't get me wrong. But for 32, a big old unit, no future, liverpool in the champions league next season, its just madness.

Gomez to Sunderland makes no sense as well.

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Post by Duty281 Thu May 29, 2014 6:49 pm

It is not snobbery.

It is more the fact that Liverpool will get a maximum two seasons out of him, most of which he'll be sat on the bench for. It is not the sort of signing that you expect a club in the Champions League to make: it's not exciting, it's not forward-thinking. It smacks of short-termism.

Yes, Liverpool do need greater depth, but signing a 32 year-old with limited ability is not the answer for them...it would be the answer for a mid-table Premier League side, which isn't where Rodgers' side are.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu May 29, 2014 6:59 pm

I don't see who better they are going to get for a role with limited playing opportunities. He'll get goals, he'll last I'd say three years, he won't complain about his lot. Id have him over Borini, Aspas or any other of the muck they've got.

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Post by Kurt N. Jurqa Thu May 29, 2014 7:17 pm

It's 4m that's being reported by the Beeb which for a striker that has a proven track record is fine, what's 4m nowadays really to Premier League clubs? Every Premier league club is pulling in 60m+ from tv rights! he's home grown, an international, knows the area well, supports the club. If they'd spent it on a David Villa everyone would have cooed and said great deal despite the age, yet despite his great goal history he's injury riddled and never played in the Premier League.

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Post by Crimey Thu May 29, 2014 7:38 pm

£4 million I think is a really good deal for a player who as others have pointed out is a life-long fan of the club and was previously in the youth systems so will have that passion and is more likely to be happy being a bench player. 

Think people are forgetting it's all well and good Liverpool spending £20-£30 million on stars but at the end of the day one of the main things needed next year is depth. Especially in attacking areas where Liverpool were woefully short. Think that £4 million will likely be got back by selling Aspas anyway.

I wasn't happy with £8 million, but I think £4 million is much more reasonable and a decent signing. Might also persuade Lallana to move if he can link up with Lambert again. Also think it completes Lambert's fairytale career, ends up being the number 9 for Liverpool.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri May 30, 2014 2:38 am

I don't think it's snobbery but as Duty says it smacks of short termism, I'm sure there must be a young 20/21 year old out there for the same price who you can develop and offers depth as well.

I'm also not sure Lambert fits tbh. Just cos he's a boyhood fan etc etc isn't an argument for me

I'd like to see him do well, but I just don't think it'd be a signing that'll pan out well for Liverpool, and isn't one that's making me waiver from my belief they'll have a serious drop off this upcoming season
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Post by GSC Fri May 30, 2014 3:12 am

Why not just sign a youngster to work in behind Sturridge and Suarez.

Little short term value and no long term value.
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Post by hampo17 Fri May 30, 2014 5:12 am

Lambert is having a medical tomorrow, I don't mind this signing if it means we are selling Aspas, it adds depth upfront and gives us the chance to rest Suarez and Sturridge.

Liverpool are also in talks with Sevilla for Moreno, don't mind that signing if it comes off. Only 21 and solves the problem off left back, plus it could allow Flanagan to move to his more natural right back.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri May 30, 2014 5:21 am

I think they want someone who can do the job with ease. No worries of attitude, adjustment (he won't need an AA) etc. Its not like they're an old team.

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Post by CFCNick Fri May 30, 2014 5:51 am

Is there any sort of sell on fee for Bristol Rovers? They could do with any money that may come their way.

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Post by nasisillmatic Fri May 30, 2014 6:09 am

It isn't a signing that's going to get me excited, but at £4 million its a good enough signing to add depth. He's proven himself in the Prem, won't kick up a fuss with not starting every game, gives us a different option, and he's better than Aspas.

I've been told the deal was done a couple of days ago, subject to a medical before or after the England game.

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Post by Guest Fri May 30, 2014 6:36 am

Suits both Lambert & Liverpool. The club has got an decent professional who's experienced & is a proven EPL scorer at £4m+. At his age, he is now happy to sign a big pay packet & essentially end his 'starting' career & just sit on the bench at his beloved Liverpool. Even though he's not a great player, he will do the job Liverpool require, in playing back-up to Suarez. End of.

@DZ, have you signed Colback yet?

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