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Post by GSC Wed 14 May 2014, 9:17 am

First topic message reminder :

Seems as though Joe Cole has been released by West Ham, might be a solid bargain for a lower league team if hes prepared to drop
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Post by LastDamnation Thu 05 Jun 2014, 6:13 pm

I didn't think Wenger would be able to resist, but probably good that we're not spending 30m on a squad player

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Post by Guest Thu 05 Jun 2014, 8:19 pm

Ayoze Perez/Jack Colback on their way. Rebuilding towards the top 6  picard 

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 05 Jun 2014, 9:38 pm

Leeds say youve bid for McCormack, Toon deny it.

I wouldnt be getting your hopes towards top 6 whether you bought well or not.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu 05 Jun 2014, 10:01 pm

Not overly impressed by Liverpools dealings so far, seems a bit last year.

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Post by Kurt N. Jurqa Thu 05 Jun 2014, 10:03 pm

Can's a good buy IMO especially being it was felt they had a weak squad and he's a player that can comfortably play in a variety of positions.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu 05 Jun 2014, 10:06 pm

Personally don't rate him in the slightest, think we need to be judging Liverpool by different standards now, had we United bought him I wouldn't be impressed or happy.

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Post by compelling and rich Thu 05 Jun 2014, 10:18 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Personally don't rate him in the slightest, think we need to be judging Liverpool by different standards now, had we United bought him I wouldn't be impressed or happy.

i'll be happy if we sign anyone who can play CM just so i dont have to watch clev and fellaini again! reckon theres a good chance that can will be better than both of them two!

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu 05 Jun 2014, 10:19 pm

Let's be honest c and r we want a world class central midfielder not just somebody better than what we currently have.

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Post by compelling and rich Thu 05 Jun 2014, 10:21 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Let's be honest c and r we want a world class central midfielder not just somebody better than what we currently have.

i know, i know! but im just so desperate not to go into another season with that midfield. its a massive weakness and were not going anywhere till its sorted

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu 05 Jun 2014, 10:26 pm

We won't be doing anything until after the world cup, I don't necessarily think a deal for Kroos is dead but more down to Van Gaal wanting a look at him. All our scouting was down under Moyes and judging by LVG's character he'll be reluctant to trust the word of somebody else.

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Post by compelling and rich Thu 05 Jun 2014, 10:30 pm

media do my head in, cant they do there job and report on stories they actually have evidence in! so far cesc has been at every prem team, kroos has been signed and rejected, now were after bastian

its a good job i dont read newspapers, bbc gossip snippets are more than enough of that rubbish for me

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Post by Kurt N. Jurqa Thu 05 Jun 2014, 10:35 pm

Rakitic from Sevilla to Barca for 12m, steal of the century there.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu 05 Jun 2014, 10:43 pm

compelling and rich wrote:media do my head in, cant they do there job and report on stories they actually have evidence in! so far cesc has been at every prem team, kroos has been signed and rejected, now were after bastian

its a good job i dont read newspapers, bbc gossip snippets are more than enough of that rubbish for me

Buying players playing in the world cup before it's started makes no sense, you could spend £25mil on somebody then have receive an injury that rules them out for months.

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Post by Kurt N. Jurqa Thu 05 Jun 2014, 11:16 pm

Or the reverse, you're keen on a player, they have a blinder and you're priced out of a deal for him.
Last World Cup, Utd got Chicarito for 6m, after the WC that would have been considerably more.

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Post by compelling and rich Thu 05 Jun 2014, 11:28 pm

there is certainly a balance and risk in both, but my personal preference has always been get it done as early as possible. city did well last season doing the same. leaving it till after a world cup doesnt leave much time to agree deals then get the players moved in and settled.

take shaw for instance, get it done now. agent can sort living accommodation etc. then after WC he can move straight in and get his head down in training

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Post by Ent Thu 05 Jun 2014, 11:33 pm

Could snap your cruciate in your first training session or game, makes sense just to get the business done.

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Post by Crimey Thu 05 Jun 2014, 11:38 pm

Yeah quite pleased that Liverpool are looking to do most deals early in the window, been stung before by waiting too late. Signing players in positions we need as well which is always a good sign. Next step for me is offloading a couple, think one of Aspas or Borini is definitely gone, I would sell Aspas, at least Borini showed last year that when fit he can do a decent job in the Premier League and is versatile and younger, would have thought Assaidi will be sold, probably to Stoke, so too Reina to Napoli now that Ter Stegen went to Barca.

And the bids for Lallana presumably show the willingness to spend big on a player which is always exciting.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 05 Jun 2014, 11:54 pm

That Rakitic deal is a steal. Little bits of smart business being done by Barca.

West Ham are chasing about 4 left backs currently. Timothee Kolodziejczak and Marcus Olsson are two of those, Raphaël Guerreiro a possible third. Also yet to meet the £7m asking price for Anderlecht's Kouyate. Sounds to me like we're still in and around the Barry move too but most likely Everton.

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Post by Ent Thu 05 Jun 2014, 11:57 pm

Hard to believe no one else in for rakitic at that price.

Kick in the balls they are apparently looking to off load fabregas 1 year after we put all our eggs in that basket.

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Post by Crimey Thu 05 Jun 2014, 11:59 pm

£12 million is ridiculous for such a good player.

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Post by compelling and rich Fri 06 Jun 2014, 12:02 am

how long left is on his contract?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 06 Jun 2014, 12:03 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:That Rakitic deal is a steal. Little bits of smart business being done by Barca.

West Ham are chasing about 4 left backs currently. Timothee Kolodziejczak and Marcus Olsson are two of those, Raphaël Guerreiro a possible third. Also yet to meet the £7m asking price for Anderlecht's Kouyate. Sounds to me like we're still in and around the Barry move too but most likely Everton.
Thought Marcus Olsson was more of a left mid/wing type?
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri 06 Jun 2014, 12:17 am

Stupid twins, I meant Martin and you knew it!

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Post by westisbest Fri 06 Jun 2014, 7:51 am

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I do like our new top for next season.

I will reserve judgement on Senderos till he's played a few games.
Be interesting to see if he starts, or if Okore will partner Vlaar.

At least that is another Villa representation at the WC. Takes our tally to 3.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 06 Jun 2014, 8:13 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Stupid twins, I meant Martin and you knew it!
Haha yes, yes I did  Very Happy
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Post by GSC Fri 06 Jun 2014, 10:19 am

http://files.lfp.es/201311/250x250_08092229ayoze.jpg

Looks like Pards went to Tenerife and came back with his holiday rep
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Post by Guest Fri 06 Jun 2014, 11:14 am

@DZ - The rumour is we did make a bid for McCormack. It was apparently so derisory & insulting, not only did Leeds reject it, but we also claimed we didn't make the bid because it would of looked embarrassing. Typical Ashley.

Ayoze will be heading to the development squad, that geezer does not look like he will cut it in the EPL. Basically another Almalfitano....the bad one.

Always like Rakitic & he's only 26 I think. Interesting direction Barcelona are going now.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri 06 Jun 2014, 12:25 pm

Newcastle and West Ham operate the same negotiation tactics. Bid low then run away

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Post by Guest Fri 06 Jun 2014, 1:28 pm

Crimey wrote:Yeah quite pleased that Liverpool are looking to do most deals early in the window, been stung before by waiting too late. Signing players in positions we need as well which is always a good sign. Next step for me is offloading a couple, think one of Aspas or Borini is definitely gone, I would sell Aspas, at least Borini showed last year that when fit he can do a decent job in the Premier League and is versatile and younger, would have thought Assaidi will be sold, probably to Stoke, so too Reina to Napoli now that Ter Stegen went to Barca.

And the bids for Lallana presumably show the willingness to spend big on a player which is always exciting.
The Assaidi deal has stalled due to Stoke waiting to see if he recovers from a knee injury he got at the end of last season. They're also unwilling to shell out £7million for him. Looks like Alberto might off too and I'd think they'll off-load Aspas who has failed to make the most of the few opportunities he's had. His corner kick in the dying seconds of the Chelsea game may have sealed his fate...it certainly did in my eyes. Shame really as in pre-season, he showed some lovely touches and I thought he might work out well. Shows what I know....

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Post by Alistair Fri 06 Jun 2014, 1:36 pm

John wrote:@DZ - The rumour is we did make a bid for McCormack. It was apparently so derisory & insulting, not only did Leeds reject it, but we also claimed we didn't make the bid because it would of looked embarrassing. Typical Ashley.

Ayoze will be heading to the development squad, that geezer does not look like he will cut it in the EPL. Basically another Almalfitano....the bad one.

Always like Rakitic & he's only 26 I think. Interesting direction Barcelona are going now.

Hi John,

A close friend of mine follows Leeds and he believes that the debt is worse than Cellino first thought and he is touting out players based on rumour. And either way, the £8million he claims is hardly derisory.

Can't see McCormack going there, he's not French.

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Post by Guest Fri 06 Jun 2014, 2:46 pm

Confused. No, our supposed offer was derisory & it wasn't £8m, that's what your valuation is. I'd be amazed if we offered more than £4m as our first offer. Not particularly happy about how things are panning out for us, especially as the Gomis deal has gone quiet,Cabella deal has gone pear-shaped & we're now resorting to pursuing Championship players. Even Danny Ings is in the mix.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 06 Jun 2014, 3:35 pm

You say "resorting to pursuing Championship players" like that's automatically a bad thing

Some very good players down there and below, wouldn't hurt if you filled your squad out with hungry young players from England than Frenchmen looking for a payday
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri 06 Jun 2014, 4:08 pm

The problem is when you lose the class of Cabaye and Remy and replace them with hungry championship players in a squad that isnt automatically that good.

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Post by Guest Fri 06 Jun 2014, 4:12 pm

I'm saying it, in terms of the striker who's going to spearhead our side & lead us into the top half of the table. Do I have faith in McCormack scoring 15+ goals in the EPL, like Demba or Loic have done. The answer is no. I know there is talent in the Championship but for our main striker, I'd rather have a proven player like Gomis, who's done it in another top league & in Europe. I have no problem with us signing young, exciting players from the Championship, like Will Hughes for example, I just feel we need to push the boat out, for essentially, the striker who's going to keep us in the EPL. I think you will understand that.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri 06 Jun 2014, 8:51 pm

Arsenal £12m bid for Lukaku.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 06 Jun 2014, 8:58 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:The problem is when you lose the class of Cabaye and Remy and replace them with hungry championship players in a squad that isnt automatically that good.
I think we found out last season that foreigners aren't gonna always fit in either

If you can find the right player for your system in the lower leagues they can score, I mean Grant Holt scored like 17/18 goals in a season, Steve Morison scored 10 despite being benched half the year

Players in the lower leagues can do it
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 06 Jun 2014, 9:17 pm

They like Lallana and Lambert progressed through the leagues with one team Olly, it's a far easier transition when you're already integrated into a system at no extra cost.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri 06 Jun 2014, 9:26 pm

Of course its the right player, but Ligue 1 is a better standard than The Championship in the decent sides especially, so they are more likely to perform.

And its also the type of player we're talking about. I think me and John are both talking about buying a very obviously good player on decent whack. Gomis is a clear standard step up from McCormack and Gomis is the level they should be looking. Rhodes looks like he'll cost about £10m, for example, clearly the best striker in that league, I wouldn't say I'm confident he'd score in the Prem.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 06 Jun 2014, 9:38 pm

Morison didn't HH but I do see your point

I think Newcastle could do a lot worse than pick up someone like McCormack alongside a Gomis, hed easily be the best striker there (if he signed today)
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri 06 Jun 2014, 10:34 pm

Alongside yes, but not only a McCormack.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Fri 06 Jun 2014, 10:59 pm

Been told tonight, Ravel Morrison could be moving to Swansea for 5 million. Doubt it will happen as i can't see the rumor anywhere, but thinking logically it would be a good move for him.

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Post by Kurt N. Jurqa Fri 06 Jun 2014, 11:48 pm

I saw the rumour a couple of days ago, suppose it depends on how much of a dick he's been recently. He must be one of the most infuriating players to manage, hugely talented but grade A buffoon.

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Post by Ent Sat 07 Jun 2014, 12:34 am

He's still be at united if he wasn't a complete and utter Joey Deacon.

Waste of time for any club.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 07 Jun 2014, 10:51 am

Hes been linked with Swansea for about two weeks. Hes also been linked with QPR for about 2 months. He wont go anywhere, if he does at all, until we buy some players so the fans are appeased.

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Post by compelling and rich Sat 07 Jun 2014, 2:05 pm

i remember us being slated for getting rid of morrison, told you all he was more trouble than he's worth and wont ever reach his potential because of his attitude

still time but wheres that smug smiley face

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Post by Guest Sat 07 Jun 2014, 2:18 pm

compelling and rich wrote:still time but wheres that smug smiley face

Here it is

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I remember we put a bid in for Ravel back in January 2012, but was thankfully rejected. I know Pardew likes him, hope we don't fall into the trap & go back in for him.

Also, Liverpool’s latest signing is 'average'. That’s according to former Premier League striker and now Bundesliga TV pundit Jan Aage Fjortoft. He doesn’t think Emre Can will add anything to the Liverpool midfield. We shall wait & see ......

Also, rumours of Toni Kroos now being linked with Real Madrid.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 07 Jun 2014, 2:21 pm

Funnily enough, I think Ravel would have flourished further at Newcastle cos he would have played. Its when hes not played that hes a problem.

We're linked with Romeu now. Would love that but I can only see him going to Spain.

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Post by compelling and rich Sat 07 Jun 2014, 2:23 pm

surely though he's not been playing because of his attitude in training etc because he's easily got more ability than most west ham/qpr players in his postion

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 07 Jun 2014, 2:24 pm

Hes not been played because Allardyce loves Nolan.

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Post by compelling and rich Sat 07 Jun 2014, 2:26 pm

not followed his qpr stint too much but he was a sub for the play off final so cant be impressing harry too much either if he's leaving him out of there biggest game

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