2014 Summer Transfer Window Thread

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Seems as though Joe Cole has been released by West Ham, might be a solid bargain for a lower league team if hes prepared to drop

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Bilbao can only use basque players, so makes little sense for them to take below the fee as replacements are limited

[Guest]

Somebody must've set that buy out clause and United have offered to pay it. Shouldn't matter whether that money comes from a team or the player himself, the buy out clause was still offered whether they like it or not

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All Spanish contracts require a buy out clause

[Derbymanc]

It obviously hasn't been offered in the way it has to be though, therein lies the problem for Man U. They probably offered the money in installments instead of in 1 go and Bilbao don't have to accept that.

Good on them, although I'm sure it will be resolved before the start of the season

[Ent]

Laughing stock again.

Get it sorted united FFs.

[Derbymanc]

Athletic Bilbao have rejected an offer of around £28.85m from Manchester United for midfielder Ander Herrera.
Herrera was the lynchpin of Bilbao's midfield last season as they finished fourth in La Liga and was believed to have a £28m buy-out clause in his contract, which rises to £32m after July 1.

They'll be trying to drag it out until after July 1st, can't blame them really.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

United seem confident. I think Herrara can probably take Bilbao to court if they are breaching his contract.

[Gerry SA]

Ander Herrera has paid up the remaining amount on his buy out clause. Deal to Manchester Utd is now complete.

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Hes already changed his twitter image

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Posted on the player's twitter I believe

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After 12 months, 3 spaniards and 2 failed bids, the "Ghost" has finally got his man.

 

[The Special Juan]

Oh my god the club has signed a player. I feel ill.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

BBC seemingly confident that Shaw will be done soon too

[Hammersmith harrier]

All Spanish contracts require a buy out clause

They do but it is what it says it is, a buy out clause that the player himself must pay.

The buying club will of course pay that sum and it most cases the selling club accepts the bid knowing the player is going to leave anyway but Bilbao don't do things that way and nor do they have to. We will have given Herrera the £28.5mil to buy out his contract and the tax issues can be circumvented quite easily now.

Glad we've bought a cultured midfielder something we haven't done for many a year since Carrick, not seen him play that much but he looked quite impressive against us in the Europa league a couple of seasons back.

[Hero]

A player leaving a CL club to join Utd, actually buying out the remainder of his contract to do so too.
Thought Utd weren't an attractive proposition anymore?

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A player leaving a CL club to join Utd, actually buying out the remainder of his contract to do so too.
Thought Utd weren't an attractive proposition anymore?

Lets be honest, its Bilbao not Madrid. And buying out his contract with money from United.

[Hero]

A player leaving a CL club to join Utd, actually buying out the remainder of his contract to do so too.
Thought Utd weren't an attractive proposition anymore?

Lets be honest, its Bilbao not Madrid. And buying out his contract with money from United.

Utd even at the peak of their dominance were never bringing in players from Real Madrid.

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The point is more, Herrera while a good player, hardly represents a real coup for United.

[Fernando]

If Herrera was that good he'd have broken into the Spanish national team by now like Koke & Isco have.

Realistically you are doing what Spurs did last year and paying big money for Europa League standard players. Id hope im wrong cos he's a decent player for Bilbao and i like their policy of people from there only.

[Ent]

Herrera in and shaw apparently doing medical.

Lot of money but a very good window.

A decent centre half would make it an excellent one.

[The Special Juan]

If Herrera was that good he'd have broken into the Spanish national team by now like Koke & Isco have.

Realistically you are doing what Spurs did last year and paying big money for Europa League standard players. Id hope im wrong cos he's a decent player for Bilbao and i like their policy of people from there only.

Go sign Bobblehead You never know, he could be a sleeper and turn out to thrive in a better team.

[Fernando]

If Herrera was that good he'd have broken into the Spanish national team by now like Koke & Isco have.

Realistically you are doing what Spurs did last year and paying big money for Europa League standard players. Id hope im wrong cos he's a decent player for Bilbao and i like their policy of people from there only.

Go sign Bobblehead  You never know, he could be a sleeper and turn out to thrive in a better team.

He'd still be better then Fellaini    27m for a person who was best off the striker at Everton yet decide to put in the middle of midfield where he is useless  

[The Special Juan]

I know, shocking. It could have been forgivable if it was anyone other than Moyes but the fact it was the same manager who managed him at the two clubs is ridiculous!!

Arsenal must be glad to finally get shot of Bendtner. I can't see anyone picking him up.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Cracking business for Southampton, got to say that.

Ent, are you alright? Its gone from hell on earth to "a very good window". I'd worry if this represents a very good window for your lot.

[Ent]

Been saying it all along. A left back and centre midfielder would be a very good window. A decent centre half would be a great one.

We are 7th, got to accept reality - we won't be purchasing big stars.

[Fernando]

I know, shocking.  It could have been forgivable if it was anyone other than Moyes but the fact it was the same manager who managed him at the two clubs is ridiculous!!

Arsenal must be glad to finally get shot of Bendtner.  I can't see anyone picking him up.

Id bet on Newcastle or Hull - He did well under Bruce at Birmingham   

[Hammersmith harrier]

It will have addressed two of our three major weaknesses Dolph quickly with two young players with a fair amount of potential, will give the players and most importantly the fans a lift before pre season has started.

I do think it's unfair to call Herrera an Europa league player just because he hasn't broken into the Spain squad, look at the midfielders they have at their disposal.

A huge fee for an 18 year old left back but there's something about Van Gaal that instils confidence and he will have a clear plan of what he wants to do, it was a deal that was always going to happen once England were eliminated.

The influx of ageing Dutch stars doesn't look like happening which can only be a good thing, we do however need an experience centre back, Hummels would be perfect and would then makes this a fabulous window for us.

It's a good day to be an United fan again.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Not sure I agree. Is he better, right now, than Evra? Your weakness areas are probably that none of your good players have pace, you are possibly two centre backs short of a good defence and no holding midfielder. This is a decent start, but if it were to end now I'd be worried.

[Hammersmith harrier]

It's a very good start though Dolph that's the thing, getting business done early will make us a more attractive prospect for the bigger names who will see we're heading in the right direction.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

That I will agree on, but not the 2 of the 3 weaknesses or Ent, of all people, saying this represents a very good window. Because in normal person's language an Ent "very good" means "best.window.ever"

[Champagne_Socialist]

It's a very good start though Dolph that's the thing, getting business done early will make us a more attractive prospect for the bigger names who will see we're heading in the right direction.

you won't sign any big name players this year.

My guess is that you will sign players from 2nd tier clubs such as herrera and shaw.

[Hammersmith harrier]

We've never played with a holding midfielder so wouldn't call that a weakness, centre is the one big problem left we need to resolve. We will buy other players but they aren't necessities so to speak, much depends of course on how LVG sets the team up.

[Hammersmith harrier]

It's a very good start though Dolph that's the thing, getting business done early will make us a more attractive prospect for the bigger names who will see we're heading in the right direction.

you won't sign any big name players this year.

My guess is that you will sign players from 2nd tier clubs such as herrera and shaw.

As is our modus operandi, we've always done it and will continue to do it but our signing of Mata shows we can still attract the big names regardless of one poor season.

[Champagne_Socialist]

It's a very good start though Dolph that's the thing, getting business done early will make us a more attractive prospect for the bigger names who will see we're heading in the right direction.

you won't sign any big name players this year.

My guess is that you will sign players from 2nd tier clubs such as herrera and shaw.

As is our modus operandi, we've always done it and will continue to do it but our signing of Mata shows we can still attract the big names regardless of one poor season.

true but mata was urchased halfway through the season with the expectation you would improve. He was also forced out by Mourinho and wanted to stay in the EPL and United were the only team offering him big wages etc.

If I was the United manager I would try and bring in Vlaar, he has looked quality for Holland and would move to utd.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

By holding I basically meant someone who can tackle and play it on, and has a bit of responsibility mixed with an engine. Centre backs are also a huge problem

[Dolphin Ziggler]

They can get a lot better than Vlaar

[Fernando]

so Tomkins then...

[Hammersmith harrier]

By holding I basically meant someone who can tackle and play it on, and has a bit of responsibility mixed with an engine. Centre backs are also a huge problem

A holding midfielder would be a squad option more than a starter for us I would imagine, for the vast majority of games Herrera and Carrick would be expected to dictate the pace and direction of the team. We bring in Hummels then i'd be delighted with our business whether we buy anybody else or not.

Make all the excuses you want C_S but the same also applies to Ozil when he signed for your lot, very rarely does one big team force another big team to sell one of it's star players.

[Champagne_Socialist]

By holding I basically meant someone who can tackle and play it on, and has a bit of responsibility mixed with an engine. Centre backs are also a huge problem

A holding midfielder would be a squad option more than a starter for us I would imagine, for the vast majority of games Herrera and Carrick would be expected to dictate the pace and direction of the team. We bring in Hummels then i'd be delighted with our business whether we buy anybody else or not.

Make all the excuses you want C_S but the same also applies to Ozil when he signed for your lot, very rarely does one big team force another big team to sell one of it's star players.

Arsenal before Ozil hadn't signed a recognised world class player in like 10 years. But we seem to have changed with the signing of Ozil and the potential signing of Balotelli.

man U will have a tough year ahead qualifying for CL if Liverpool keep suarez and man city and chelsea improve (chelsea already have fabregas and costa)

[Hammersmith harrier]

The signing of Costa doesn't worry me, his apparent strength will be negated by the more powerful defenders in the premier league.

Liverpool keeping hold of Suarez won't make a big difference anyway, he's going to miss 9 games for certain but will take him time after that to regain match fitness, his pre season won't start until November.

We won't struggle to make the champions league with a good manager in place.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Is there a real possibility of Yaya leaving Citeh? Cos that'd be a huge blow to them. Aguero also possibly injured for the start of the season

[compelling and rich]

Not sure I agree. Is he better, right now, than Evra? Your weakness areas are probably that none of your good players have pace, you are possibly two centre backs short of a good defence and no holding midfielder. This is a decent start, but if it were to end now I'd be worried.

im guessing shaw will attempt to defend so thats a big fat YES

[compelling and rich]

By holding I basically meant someone who can tackle and play it on, and has a bit of responsibility mixed with an engine. Centre backs are also a huge problem

A holding midfielder would be a squad option more than a starter for us I would imagine, for the vast majority of games Herrera and Carrick would be expected to dictate the pace and direction of the team. We bring in Hummels then i'd be delighted with our business whether we buy anybody else or not.

Make all the excuses you want C_S but the same also applies to Ozil when he signed for your lot, very rarely does one big team force another big team to sell one of it's star players.

Arsenal before Ozil hadn't signed a recognised world class player in like 10 years. But we seem to have changed with the signing of Ozil and the potential signing of Balotelli.

man U will have a tough year ahead qualifying for CL if Liverpool keep suarez and man city and chelsea improve (chelsea already have fabregas and costa)

balotelli world class? not sure about that, causes more problems than he solves, can be world class on his day but will be rubbish in more than a few games, so just like ozil then    

[compelling and rich]

so far im delighted with what we have done, i still maintain that the team we had were miles better than 7th and that a better manager would have got us top 4 no probs, so add LVG, herrera and shaw and delighted and strengthened three major weak areas

a cb now and i will be more than happy, even if herrera doesnt turn into a top class player he will see have miles more technical ability than any other of the cm we have got and will add some class we have been sorely missing

[Champagne_Socialist]

The signing of Costa doesn't worry me, his apparent strength will be negated by the more powerful defenders in the premier league.

Liverpool keeping hold of Suarez won't make a big difference anyway, he's going to miss 9 games for certain but will take him time after that to regain match fitness, his pre season won't start until November.

We won't struggle to make the champions league with a good manager in place.

just remember you were this deluded last year and I was right.

What utter nonsense that Costa's strength will be negated by the more powerful defenders in the epl hahaha seriously if you want to debate don't just spout nonsense to suit your agenda, actually debate with unbiased thoughts.

Suarez missed 6 games last year and managed to score 31 goals so him missing 9 games is not much different to last year.

Your team is still very poor. You will struggle to make the CL unless you bring in a lot more quality because all the other teams have improved drastically.

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The squad may have been better than 7th but it wasn't CL caliber.

A lot of average in that squad.

[compelling and rich]

The squad may have been better than 7th but it wasn't CL caliber.

A lot of average in that squad.

a lot of average that walked the league the season before with a proper manager

[Hammersmith harrier]

Apparently C and R thoughts like that are delusion, not like we have a front four to rival any in the division, have improved both the defence and midfield while the transfer window hasn't even opened.

[Champagne_Socialist]

The squad may have been better than 7th but it wasn't CL caliber.

A lot of average in that squad.

a lot of average that walked the league the season before with a proper manager

The squad that won the league in 12/13 was better though. Your older players were younger and you had an uninjured Van Persie who won you the league.

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A poor league and key players a year old. United were never under any serious pressure that season, Chelsea and City imploded on their own.

As a neutral, you look at the squad Moyes inherited, the only position other than De Gea they were above average in was up front.

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