Genk

First topic message reminder :

SEASON 2 STARTING BUDGET - £6,700,000
CURRENT BUDGET - £9,320,000
GOALKEEPERS
GK Laszlo Koteles
GK Morgan De Sanctis
GK Marco Silvestri
DEFENDERS
RB Matteo Darmian
RB/CB Eric Dier
CB Dan Burn
CB Jamaal Lascelles
CB/LB Georgio Chiellini
LB Behrang Safari 
LB Faiouzi Ghoulam
MIDFIELDERS
RM Bilal Ould-Chikh
CM Marcelo Diaz
CM Frank Lampard
CM Francis Coquelin
CM Michael Carrick
CM Andres Iniesta
CM Bastian Schweinsteiger
LM Sekou Cisse
LM Rolando Aarons
FORWARDS
ST Zlatan Ibrahimovic
ST Alexandre Lacazette
ST James Wilson
LW/ST Heung Min-Son
SEASON 3 TRANSFERS
TRANSFERS IN
Pelle - £7m
Dante - £13.2m
Honda + Son + Terry + Diame = p/ex 1
Lacazette - £14.96m
Caceres - p/ex 2 + £6m
Chiellini - £14.5m
Schweinsteiger - £24.6m
Carrick + Darmian + Astori - p/ex 3 +£6.5m
Kondogbia - £12.32m
Ghoulam - £6.16m
Safari + Chikh = £900k
Iniesta = £30.8m
Coquelin = P/EX 4

TRANSFERS OUT
Elia - £3.5m
De Jong - £10m
Luisao - £5m
Pelle + Dante + De Rossi = p/ex 1
Herrera = £10m
Terry - £8m
Di Natale - p/ex 2
Aurier - £10m
Diame - £6m
Caldirola - £1.1m
Mavuba - £6.5m
Evra - £2m
Caceres + Honda - p/ex 3.
Schrijvers - £1.14m
Digne - £12m
Mason - £4.5m
Kondogbia = P/EX 4 + £11m


BONUSES
End of season two money - £5m
£4.5m - Week One bonuses (win)
£1m - Week Two bonus (draw)
£4.5m - Week Three bonuses (win)
1m Week Four bonuses (lose)
£1m CL prediction bonus
£1m Week Five bonuses (draw)
£4.5m Week Six bonuses (win)

£7.5m - Sponsor initial fee
£3.5m to be added per win.

My advice would be to wait unless you can get a really good deal.....think how you will feel if you lawyer him now and then someone snaps him up next season? He is worth to you more as a bargaining chip at this point.

I am still interested in De Rossi, though not as much. Just bear it in mind if you do fancy getting rid.

The idea of not accepting a lawyer to stop someone else from buying him later doesn't really make sense to me.

Why would you not sell Son for £14m and then spend that on someone better who is worth £14m on TM? You then would have either a better £14m bargaining chip, or someone worth a c£15-16m lawyer instead.

Someone might well snap Son up for £12m, but I don't see the problem for you as you now will have better anyway.

I could understand it if you had someone like Messi or Ronaldo, but Son and Tadic are both easily replaced from TPs.

Or am I missing something?

It is not about selling Son/Tadic to lawyers, it is about timing of it.

All the above you have said is true but it comes down to this - Tactically, would it not be better to sell that person next season for lawyers (risk I know if they don't come up) and stop that player from being snapped up by others? Yes you may have a better player, but it is one slightly lesser player that you will have to face (in this case your defense)

I would rather have 14m and not have Son score against me, than 14m and he does.

But someone will just spend the £12m/£14m  on a different player of the same or higher standard.



I think you are choosing between

1) having a definate £14m in the bank (or a better player) and risking Son scoring against you;
2) risking not having £14m and having Son (instead of a better player), and still risking someone else equivalent Son's standard scoring against you.


To me, you are risking limiting your own improvement and gaining nothing from it.

Each to their own

I agree with afro.

The more lawyers you accept, the more money you make. There's a couple of attacking players I'm looking at in that sort of price bracket.

Ask Hero how long he had to wait for a lawyers offer for McCormack.

Twist is right in the sense of each to their own.

My preferred approach is what treb's says. The teams that do well are those that accept as many lawyers as possible.

GSC as an example, is ruthless and accepts most lawyers offer, and then uses the money to move forward - he is close to winning the league! I do the same - I won the league last season.

It is only where I feel a TM value is likely to go up, or in the case of an older player who would cost more than his lawyer value to replace like for like, that I don't accept

Costa would be an interesting one.

I do have a massive mancrush on Aguero

I don't get why Twist wouldn't sell in all honestly all your doing is given people a reason to go buy a better player. If you sell Son to someone your gunna limit there money giving you a better chance at a player they may want...

Poor old Trebs pages are being filled with this

I do get your points, but it's just personal preference and what I am going with. May not make sense but its my choice

I have a bit of money for de rossi

I can buy better for 20mil. Never going to get me to part with that much cash.

I would give you 10m and Thiago. Son isn't going to be part of the deal

The above sounded really pissy didn't it! Sorry, long day and not finished yet.

Happy to negotiate but it won't be 20mil or involve Son. Depends how much you want money for other targets. I will go to around his TM area.

Tbh I haven't got time for a big search on TM as snowed under. So just wanted a quick easy buy.

SEASON 2 TRANSFERS

TRANSFERS IN
Chadli - £5.3m
Lampard - £1.3m
Evra - £3.5m
Aarons - £500k
De Rossi - £15.8m
Insigne - £13.2m
Herrerra - £8.8m
Mavuba - £6.6m
Tadic - £4.4m + P/EX 1
Luisao - £4.4m
Mason - £300k
Digne - £11m
De Jong + Di Natale - P/EX 2

TRANSFERS OUT
Bebe - £1m
Camus - £2.5m
Toulalan - £8.5m
Welbeck - £17m
Gerkens - £1.2m
Insigne - £15m
Fletcher - £3m
De Ceauler - £1.5m
Barzagli - P/EX 1
Hamalainen + Monrose - £1m
Ojo released - £300k
Corchia - £4.5m
Klose - £1m
Quaresma - £4m
Kane + Chadli - P/EX 2
Wilson - £500k

OTHER BONUSES
Predictions week one - £500k
Week One - £1m
Week Two - £1m
Week Three - £1m Not added because GSC was unhappy with me for not confirming a transfer.
Week Four - £1m
Week Five - £1m (£0.5m deducted for late)
Week Six - 0.5m (£0.5m deducted for late)
Week Seven - £1m
Week Eight - £1m
Week Nine - £1m
Week Ten - £1m
Week Eleven - £1m


FINAL BUDGET - £2,000,000

Can't remember what his TM value is. It's around 13m isn't it? I will give you 14m if it is.

Is he? Wow. Too high I think trebs. I would go to 15m but only if you are looking to sell to get other targets. Otherwise you probably won't. I know I wouldn't unless the cash was needed.

Perfectly reasonable. I might come back to you with an offer of 17m.

I really just need to sit down and sort out what's what with my squad. I need a CM, CB, RB cover and a ST. Lot to get with only 33m.....thats when we get sponsorship.

To be honest, I'm not really in the mood yet

Multi buys are always good!

Son being a goal scorer and on form, will be worth around 20m. So de rossi and 7m, I might take.

I need to come up with a suitable TP replacement. I'm online tonight so I can thrash something out with you.

Ok so Son = De Rossi + £££ (think we agree he gives more to a team than de rossi, with his goals)

So what's the £££ and I will look for TPs tonight.

12m? Really? Surely he should be worth more than de Rossi, because Son can win you games. De Rossi can't.

Ok well I might come back for de Rossi

Januzaj is free to leave. How much money are you going to offer?

I'm interested in Wilson.

Bernat has gone. Januzaj can go for £10m make an offer for the others.

Hello. What would you want for Zlatan and De Rossi, if it didn't involve Son?

I only want Wilson, Di Natale I noticed was not received very well here. Despite out scoring any striker here in the last 10 years.

Januzaj is going for cash I want to but my own players. Gsc has bid 10m

I'd rather sell to gsc if I'm honest. Il losing out on £3m.

£11m plus Wilson for Januzaj

Listen up you tyre kicker. Gsc has made a 10m bid for Januzaj you've got till 11:59pm to make an 11m bid or else gsc will sign him.

Probably about the 7-8m mark on Carrick.

Masch I'd have to have a ponder on. Feel free to make me an offer

Would you be interested in 11m and Rabiot for De Rossi?

Gives you a huge transfer kitty for that marque signing you're after and gives you a certainly decent back up.

I am still interested in De Rossi as well

All due respect I'm not putting pressure on you. I did say to gsc that if mighty doesn't beat your offer by 11:59 he can confirm. I want to stick my word sorry pal.

Hello mate,

Just to let you know I have added a few more players, so we might be able to come to a deal for de Rossi. Or, if you are still interested in Son, I will be looking to bring in TP's next week so cash would be handy. But that deal will need to be next week.

Lots of options. You know i like a deal. Look over my new squad and see what takes your fancy.

That's fair enough.

If you still fancy Son, then we can come to a cash deal for him next week.

You know very well that Januzaj has gone I did tell you yesterday.

Ok, well low teens seems fair enough. If you are still interested come next Tuesday then make me an offer.

15m seems fair enough.

If my maths are right, I need at least 14.5m for my TP's.

Think I will wait until next week mate. Lots of bargains on TM so you might be able to find yourself a better deal there when you get another two TP's.

Tbh, can't see any obvious part ex apart from the obvious Ibra or perhaps Pelle.

But would prefer straight cash. £11.5m

In a cash deal not sure, but would prefer a part ex. Make me a fair offer.

A little more cash would be better, Lampard and more cash for Clasie.

What have you got/are able to get?

Maybe. I'm more leaning towards keeping Mirallas ahead of Pelle as with style I want to play Mirallas would start whereas Pelle would be behind Kruse.

So I would be more inclined to accept a cash offer than part ex.

It's very rare for me to play a front two in a style to suit Pelle and Kruse.

Having given it some thought, I'm going to say no to a part ex unless you are willing to offer an unexpected amount of cash.

I'll sell him for £11.5m cash

De Rossi + Pelle = Honda + Diame + Kane

enq

Above has changed now through various deals.

However.....

I'm more inclined to do a deal for Son now. Could add Honda as well. Let me know your thoughts mate.

Ok well your budget isn't enough for Son, and I have nothing in the pot.

So looks like it is some sort of player swap mate.

Dante + de Rossi = Son + Terry + Diame as a starting point.

De Rossi totally off the table then?

Ok I will do Pelle and Dante and 3m = Son + Terry

Confirm if you want

Ok I will do 2 and 2

So pelle and Dante = Son and Terry.

Would like to get De Rossi involved as well but I could only offer Honda in a 3 and 3 deal. Might stretch to Diame as well, if some cash was offered your end.

For just Son, I wouldnt do Pelle and cash.....as he would only be my third choice striker.

How about

Pelle + Dante + De Rossi + 2m = Son + Terry + Honda + Diame.

That's the deal I really want. Son and Honda are your two attacking wingers then.

To jump in on this...

How about Pepe and your choice of Suarez, Rabiot or Balde Diao & 8m
For Dante and De Rossi

ENQ