Rio de Janiero - 2014 Fifa World Cup Thread

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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Diego Costa for £32 million isn't looking to hot either...Chelsea could be looking at the 3 most expensive striker flops in history in Shevchenko, Torres and now Costa.

He lacks pace and mobility which for me are essential in the premiership.

Tbf this isn't the same Costa that's been playing for Atletico, a long hard season and a few injuries catching up with him here I think

[Duty281]

He got fined £66k

His weekly salary is £200k without factoring tax/image rights/endorsements etc.

I doubt hes worried about the fine

The fine is pointless, Suarez won't even notice.   

[GSC]

I don't see why its unjust. 3rd offense, hasn't shown any signs of improvement in his behaviour.

I'd have banned him until Jan tbh

[Dolphin Ziggler]

The fine is pointless, although I do find it funny that FIFA fine so low.

The ban? Well, I think its enough. Missing the rest of the World Cup is pretty big for him personally, and two and a half months of PL football, including any training time at his club. He's gonna have to do a rushed pre-season. Probably mid-November comeback?

[Scrumpy]

the 4 month ban and 9 international  match bans was sufficient, the fine is something added to the punishment.

The punishment is an accurate reflection of the crime committed. Calls for a year long ban or 2 year ban are unjust and the punishment would not fit the crime.

Yes it would for a repeat offender.

Liverpool should sack him and tell him to feck off.

[Scrumpy]

Everyone saying the fine is pointless but it will help pay towards Sepp's xmas do.

[GSC]

Tbh I'd be surprised if Suarez doesn't try to move abroad anyway. His relations with the English press don't seem positive.

[SecretFly]

BTW.... people probably think FIFA will have been wishing this incident away.....hmmmm, it's an absolute classic that the boardroom boys were probably doing jigs to and getting drunk on.  They couldn't have asked for a better way to promote the product across the world.  Blatter loved it....especially the 'little us and the big them' sub-plot.

"Thank you, Luis.  Your service to the cause has been noted."

[Nachos Jones]

My 13 year old boy has just asked me if his ban goes on to the FiFa games... He has apparently just bought him for a lot of Microsoft points (whatever that means)...

[The Special Juan]

You can't keep the stars away from the product too long.  The customers get annoyed that they ain't getting what they paid for and begin to potentially refuse to pay for anything.

That alarm bell stuff for people who like big deals, big boardrooms and big loadsa money envelopes.  Keep the money coming in...keep the stars burning bright.

I got that on a fortune cookie once.

[Champagne_Socialist]

the 4 month ban and 9 international  match bans was sufficient, the fine is something added to the punishment.

The punishment is an accurate reflection of the crime committed. Calls for a year long ban or 2 year ban are unjust and the punishment would not fit the crime.

Yes it would for a repeat offender.

Liverpool should sack him and tell him to feck off.

Lets be honest here he is a repeat offender of a 'minor' crime (minor in the sense of damage caused). yes biting is a horrible crime but there are players who have headbutted other players which is far worse and got far less punishments.

4 month ban and a 9 match international ban fits the crime.

[Duty281]

I'd have given Suarez a total ban until he's cleared to play by a panel of psychologists after evaluating his mental health.

His mental health, and clarity of mind, is far more important than what he actually did.

[SecretFly]

My 13 year old boy has just asked me if his ban goes on to the FiFa games... He has apparently just bought him for a lot of Microsoft points (whatever that means)...

it means your son has been duly screwed by the Wonderful World of Blatter

[Champagne_Socialist]

I don't see why its unjust. 3rd offense, hasn't shown any signs of improvement in his behaviour.

I'd have banned him until Jan tbh

3rd offence of a minor crime.

If we are giving peole 7 months bans for 3rd offences then all those jumping 2 footed tackles that players have committed 3 times need to be banned for 7 months and all those players who headbutt need to be banned for 7 months and all those players who elbow need to be banned for 7 months.

What suarez did was wrong and a 4 month ban is a suitabe punishment but fernando torres face scratch on vertongen was far worse or other players who elbow etc etc

[Scrumpy]

Mate go and bite a random person in the street and see where it gets you, you'll be surprised!

Maybe we could send you some food parcels?

[SecretFly]

Mate go and bite a random person in the street and see where it gets you, you'll be surprised!

Maybe we could send you some food parcels?

Choice Italian cuts.

[Nachos Jones]

My 13 year old boy has just asked me if his ban goes on to the FiFa games... He has apparently just bought him for a lot of Microsoft points (whatever that means)...

it means your son has been duly screwed by the Wonderful World of Blatter

Continually, apparently you don't buy complete games anymore. You have to by the Microsoft Point things to continue playing the game   

[Lowlandbrit]

Looks a bit wet in Recife:
https://twitter.com/lucky13wxman/statuses/482157421939666944
https://twitter.com/BenSmithBBC/status/482162618938175488/photo/1
https://twitter.com/CindyBoren/statuses/482153605517287424
https://twitter.com/weatherchannel/statuses/482150783455342592
https://twitter.com/sportcut/statuses/482159262345359360

Sure Americans will be gutted if the conditions mean neither side creates much...

[Duty281]

Shall I compare thee to a Serbian arm?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate,
Rough teeth do taste the darling shoulder of Chiellini,
And FIFA's ban hath all too short a date.

#shakespeare

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I'd have given Suarez a total ban until he's cleared to play by a panel of psychologists after evaluating his mental health.

His mental health, and clarity of mind, is far more important than what he actually did.

I know biting is pathetic, but it really is just an aggressive act. Sportsman gets overly aggressive during competitive sport is barely a mental health issue.

[Champagne_Socialist]

Mate go and bite a random person in the street and see where it gets you, you'll be surprised!

Maybe we could send you some food parcels?

if I bite someone in the street my sentence should be less than if I head butt someone in the street....

[GSC]

An aggressive act the vast majority of sportsmen feel no need to do once, let alone repeatedly. Theres something wrong with Luis

[SecretFly]

It's kinda scary.  

Maybe the UN Security Council should keep a serious eye on developments because what I've learned from this incident is that Suarez ain't alone!!!!  

Seems there are a lot of vampire zombies out there that aren't all movie extras either.  Seems they are a real breed who have become a little too excited by all this teeth and blood chat.  "Biting ain't no big thing... it's juicy and sweet, my precious, and praps more people should try it before knocking it."

[Champagne_Socialist]

An aggressive act the vast majority of sportsmen feel no need to do once, let alone repeatedly. Theres something wrong with Luis

Well Rooney has elbowed players should he be setioned as well?
Pepe headbutted a player should he be banned until his mental health is cleared?

[Duty281]

I'd have given Suarez a total ban until he's cleared to play by a panel of psychologists after evaluating his mental health.

His mental health, and clarity of mind, is far more important than what he actually did.

I know biting is pathetic, but it really is just an aggressive act. Sportsman gets overly aggressive during competitive sport is barely a mental health issue.

But he's done it three times now, despite being punished twice before.

It's not a usual act for a footballer, either, far from it.

[SecretFly]

Mate go and bite a random person in the street and see where it gets you, you'll be surprised!

Maybe we could send you some food parcels?

if I bite someone in the street my sentence should be less than if I head butt someone in the street....

You might think your bite is less serious. Maybe it is, maybe it aint. You've heard of infections passed on and through bites? I don't want anybody's saliva sludge journeying down my veins. How about you?

[Duty281]

Uruguay have three days to appeal, according to the BBC.

The ban will cover the first nine Premier League games as well, and a chunk of the Champions League group stages.

[The Special Juan]

Elbowing is something that happens. Rooney elbows someone, he gets a ban, we call him a tw@ and we move on. van Persie elbows someone (which he does often), same thing. The first thing people do in a moment of aggression is go in with their hands, elbows, feet or even head but never mouth.

[Champagne_Socialist]

Mate go and bite a random person in the street and see where it gets you, you'll be surprised!

Maybe we could send you some food parcels?

if I bite someone in the street my sentence should be less than if I head butt someone in the street....

You might think your bite is less serious.  Maybe it is, maybe it aint.  You've heard of infections passed on and through bites?  I don't want anybody's saliva sludge journeying down my veins.  How about you?

we are talking about the damage suarez caused to chiellini not the damage someone with HIV could cause to a random person. If Suarez bit chiellin on the street and the same amount of damage was caused Suarez would in most cases face less of a punishment then if he headbutted chiellini in the street.

[Fernando]

My 13 year old boy has just asked me if his ban goes on to the FiFa games... He has apparently just bought him for a lot of Microsoft points (whatever that means)...

it means your son has been duly screwed by the Wonderful World of Blatter

Continually, apparently you don't buy complete games anymore. You have to by the Microsoft Point things to continue playing the game   

Not on fifa you don't unless buying Ultimate Team Packets which are a rip off    Your kid is screwing with you   

[Champagne_Socialist]

Elbowing is something that happens.  Rooney elbows someone, he gets a ban, we call him a tw@ and we move on.  van Persie elbows someone (which he does often), same thing.  The first thing people do in a moment of aggression is go in with their hands, elbows, feet or even head but never mouth.

Well not everyone because jermain defore and suarez have bitten people instead of elbowing. Everyone is different and the fact you seem to minimise the damage of an elbow highlights your biased views.

John Terry out of aggression was racist on the pitch to another player, he also kneed another player in the back. Should he be banned for 2 years or until he passes a mental health check?

Wayne rooney has elbowed players countless times in the back, he stamped on a players genitals, he has kicked players on purpose, where are the calls for him to be sectioned?

[Scrumpy]

Mate go and bite a random person in the street and see where it gets you, you'll be surprised!

Maybe we could send you some food parcels?

if I bite someone in the street my sentence should be less than if I head butt someone in the street....

Please feel free to try it!

But we are not talking about a headbutt, why bring that up whilst trying to defend this Mental Baby from Uruguay?

[SecretFly]

If Suarez bit chiellin on the street and the same amount of damage was caused Suarez would in most cases face less of a punishment then if he headbutted chiellini in the street.

You think? Or you know?

Plus - you know what Suarez has and what he hasn't in terms of pass-onable conditions? You know his medical history? The intent of a bite is as serious as the intent of a head butt (just ask Tyson when he bit off and ear and spat it out). The jury would decide how severe the incident and the judge would determine the sentence.

[Duty281]

Oliver Kay ‏@OliverKayTimes  · 3m  
Fifa making up rules as they go along, but to judge by what they've just told me, only #URU (not #LFC) would be allowed to appeal Suarez ban

And he would be allowed to transfer clubs, apparently, despite the ban seemingly covering "all football activity".

[Scrumpy]

Suarez has spent a long time in Liverpool, who knows what he has caught whilst living there?

[JamesLincs]

biting is far more dangerous and animalistic than a punch, elbow, headbutt, etc

almost half the ban is in the off season

[Champagne_Socialist]

If Suarez bit chiellin on the street and the same amount of damage was caused Suarez would in most cases face less of a punishment then if he headbutted chiellini in the street.

You think?  Or you know?  

Plus - you know what Suarez has and what he hasn't in terms of pass-onable conditions?  You know his medical history?  The intent of a bite is as serious as the intent of a head butt (just ask Tyson when he bit off and ear and spat it out).  The jury would decide how severe the incident and the judge would determine the sentence.

Biting would fall under ABH whilst headbutting would fall under GBH. GBH is more serious.

[The Special Juan]

Elbowing is something that happens.  Rooney elbows someone, he gets a ban, we call him a tw@ and we move on.  van Persie elbows someone (which he does often), same thing.  The first thing people do in a moment of aggression is go in with their hands, elbows, feet or even head but never mouth.

Well not everyone because jermain defore and suarez have bitten people instead of elbowing. Everyone is different and the fact you seem to minimise the damage of an elbow highlights your biased views.

John Terry out of aggression was racist on the pitch to another player, he also kneed another player in the back. Should he be banned for 2 years or until he passes a mental health check?

Wayne rooney has elbowed players countless times in the back, he stamped on a players genitals, he has kicked players on purpose, where are the calls for him to be sectioned?

Would rather get a broken nose/cheekbone from elbows than HIV from a bite. (You can ban Terry for as long as you want, I don't care)

[GSC]

An elbow or headbutt can be a flash of anger moment. A bite requires actual conscious thought.

[Scrumpy]

Should have been longer seeing as it was an unprovoked attack.

Come on Liverpool set an example and sack him.

[SecretFly]

Champagne has convinced me that I'm all wrong.  And another guy Azabache on a related site has made me see the error of my ways too.

Like I said on that thread,  Time for people to stand up against FIFA bullying of talented players and their talents.  We must start a campaign to unburden Suarez of this miscarriage of justice.  Save Suarez's Canines is my kickstart campaign.  Small fee to join... Quatarians most welcome to invest.

[Champagne_Socialist]

An elbow or headbutt can be a flash of anger moment. A bite requires actual conscious thought.

Utter nonsense.

[Duty281]

Should have been longer seeing as it was an unprovoked attack.

Come on Liverpool set an example and sack him.

The natives on RAWK are starting to turn against Suarez!

[GSC]

If it was a moment of anger he'd have just lamped him.

[JamesLincs]

a bite is instinct.... if your a dog

[Scrumpy]

I agree with GSC unless you are being pinned down and couldn't us your arms I don't think you would think to bite anyone.

He knew what he was doing, hence why he has done it before and will do it again.

Dirty little Baby

[GSC]

a bite is instinct.... if your a dog

lets not rule anything out.

It obviously wasn't a heat of the moment thing though. Including the going down holding his face.

[Champagne_Socialist]

Champagne has convinced me that I'm all wrong.  And another guy Azabache on a related site has made me see the error of my ways too.

Like I said on that thread,  Time for people to stand up against FIFA bullying of talented players and their talents.  We must start a campaign to unburden Suarez of this miscarriage of justice.  Save Suarez's Canines is my kickstart campaign.  Small fee to join... Quatarians most welcome to invest.

To be honest I am not sure what your views are.

My opinion is that the bite was wrong of course but the bite he gave to chiellini was not as bad as some elbows or headbutts that I have witnessed or some very dangerous 2 footed jumping tackles that were aimed at hitting the player.

A 4 month ban is sufficient as it is the 3rd time he has committed the same offence and it is an off the ball offence.

[GSC]

Uruguay reportedly threatening not to play their last 16 tie.

Get the jet fuelled.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I think a bite can be instinct. All you have to do is have had that action as natural as a child and never got past it.

[Champagne_Socialist]

I agree with GSC unless you are being pinned down and couldn't us your arms I don't think you would think to bite anyone.

He knew what he was doing, hence why he has done it before and will do it again.

Dirty little Baby

Just like JohN Terry knew what hwhen he kneed Sanchez in the back or Rooney knew what he was doing when he stamped on a players genitals etc etc

Everyone reacts differently.

Your argument has no standing. First you claimed a bite was worse when in fact a headbutt is worse under the law and you are trying to claim that elbows and headbutts and stamps and punches are not as bad as a bite because you claim that they are done in the heat of the moment when a bite is not, clearly everyone acts differently and clearly suarez bit the guy in the heat of the moment.

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