Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[McLaren]

First topic message reminder :

Not had that much fun watching football for a while.

Robben taken the p*1ss out the spanish keeper and central defenders was literally hilarious.

[GunsGerms]

Presumably it s a requirement for denominational schools.

[pedro]

What do you mean "school reasons"

Diggers has to finish high school first.

[super_realist]

Why would anyone want to send a child anywhere which requires your child has undergone a stupid religious ritual before they can be considered to be accepted onto the roll?

Surely that would be illegal if a school were to discriminate on the basis of whether a delusional madman had sprinkled water on a babies head or not?

Time we got rid of denominational schools.

[GunsGerms]

Why would anyone want to send a child anywhere which requires your child has undergone a stupid religious ritual before they can be considered to be accepted onto the roll?

Time we got rid of denominational schools.

Would you not send your kid to one if it was the only or even the best school in your area. However, I agree non denominational or even multi denominational schools are the way forward IMO.

[Diggers]

Best school in the area by a mile, not that heavy on the god stuff so it's barely an issue.
I'm all for Christian values which they do stress, so not an issue for me really.

[Diggers]

By the way it's not a legal requirement. Our first child got in with no church going, however we can't take a risk of the youngest not getting in so are simply covering a few extra bases.
You will find any c of e or catholic school will accept multiple faiths or indeed non believers.

[super_realist]

Why would anyone want to send a child anywhere which requires your child has undergone a stupid religious ritual before they can be considered to be accepted onto the roll?

Time we got rid of denominational schools.

Would you not send your kid to one if it was the only or even the best school in your area. However, I agree non denominational or even multi denominational schools are the way forward IMO.

I might in those circumstances, but I don't think a school could insist that the child is christened (how could they even tell) plus I would insist they were under no obligation to take part in any religious ceremonies/assemblies etc.

Religion has no place in education/politics/finance etc. I don't know why these morons can't just keep their beliefs at home where it doesn't affect the general public. No one would have an issue then. Teach RE if youu must, but don't have denominational schools, it's just divisive and creepy.

This isn't a religious rant by the way, just don't see how something based on zero evidence and a laughable premise can stipulate to whom they provide education. Surely that's indefensible.

[super_realist]

Best school in the area by a mile, not that heavy on the god stuff so it's barely an issue.
I'm all for Christian values which they do stress, so not an issue for me really.

I'm not sure Christian Values are something you want your child to learn Diggers, homophobia, misogyny, approving of slavery, mafia boss analogies,   hypocrisy, lying, gullibility, naivity, subjugation of women, lack of critical or logical thinking, infinite punishment for a finite crime etc.

You can learn how not to be a dick head without denominational schools.

[SmithersJones]

Friend of ours spent months going to the local Catholic church, volunteering to help out, buttering up the priest and having him round for dinner etc to make sure their son got into the Catholic primary school. And he didn't.

[pedro]

I guess you can base a private school on any values you'd want. Religious are just the common ones.

[super_realist]

Friend of ours spent months going to the local Catholic church, volunteering to help out, buttering up the priest and having him round for dinner etc to make sure their son got into the Catholic primary school. And he didn't.

maybe the priest didn't fancy the boy.

[GunsGerms]

I might in those circumstances, but I don't think a school could insist that the child is christened (how could they even tell) plus I would insist they were under no obligation to take part in any religious ceremonies/assemblies etc.

Religion has no place in education/politics/finance etc. I don't know why these morons can't just keep their beliefs at home where it doesn't affect the general public. No one would have an issue then. Teach RE if youu must, but don't have denominational schools, it's just divisive and creepy.

This isn't a religious rant by the way, just don't see how something based on zero evidence and a laughable premise can stipulate to whom they provide education. Surely that's indefensible.

I presume they might request a baptism certificate?

Im not in favour of one religion schools. My preference for my son would be a multi denominational school because religious diversity including athiesm is a relaity in the world we live in and wont change anytime soon so I would like my son to be tolerant and understanding of all types.

He will be attending a protestant school which is excellent, as I did myself as he is 400th on the waiting list for the local multi-d school.

[pedro]

Friend of ours spent months going to the local Catholic church, volunteering to help out, buttering up the priest and having him round for dinner etc to make sure their son got into the Catholic primary school. And he didn't.

Money, money, money.   

[SmithersJones]

Friend of ours spent months going to the local Catholic church, volunteering to help out, buttering up the priest and having him round for dinner etc to make sure their son got into the Catholic primary school. And he didn't.

maybe the priest didn't fancy the boy.

  Obviously not!

[SmithersJones]

Friend of ours spent months going to the local Catholic church, volunteering to help out, buttering up the priest and having him round for dinner etc to make sure their son got into the Catholic primary school. And he didn't.

Money, money, money.   

Would have been cheaper, he's now going to a private school!

[super_realist]

By multi denominational, do you just mean a standard state school?

I'm not against learning about other peoples religion in RE classes (it's important to understand why people believe in fairytales)

but I really don't think there's the slightest need for schools to have a "denominational" tag.
If you want to be religious, do it on your own time, school isn't the place for it.

[pedro]

My preference for my son would be a multi denominational school because religious diversity including athiesm is a relaity in the world we live in and wont change anytime soon so I would like my son to be tolerant and understanding of all types.

Don't be too sure about that. Allah akhbar.

[incontinentia]

More like "shalom" pedro.

[navyblueshorts]

Blimey that is brutal Navy. To be honest probably at least 90% of being a parent to a very young kid is just really boring, the repetition is very tedious, especially when you are knackered. They get way more interesting the older they get IMO, I'm no fan of babies really but they have their moments.
I wouldn't change it though and can only see it getting better, hopefully reasonably quickly as my 2 year old has a serious attitude problem, no idea where she gets it from!

Brutal? Yep. We had twins, 3 months early, more than a year of hospital ICUs. Pretty horrendous and both have varying disability now. So far away from what we'd hoped for even though there are good bits. 5 years on, still having problems coming to terms with how things are cf. what they should be. Them's the breaks I guess!

What do you mean "school reasons"

Diggers has to finish high school first.

[beninho]

I am god parent to my sisters kids. I am not overly religious but I think in all likelihood I will have my little one christened. I got married in a church and I like the trafition of having the little man christened in church as well. We have a couple of faith schools near by but they accept people from all religions, I think they need to fill a quota. I will want my child to go the the best school available, I prefer the options of general faith schools then private schools. I dont like that people can pay for better education. Nothing that can dine about ut though now.

[super_realist]

I am god parent to my sisters kids. I am not overly religious but I think in all likelihood I will have my little one christened.  I got married in a church and I like the trafition of having the little man christened in church as well.  We have a couple of faith schools near by but they accept people from all religions, I think they need to fill a quota.  I will want my child to go the the best school available, I prefer the options of general faith schools then private schools. I dont like that people can pay for better education. Nothing that can dine about ut though now.

Why don't you also get your kid the Islamic, Hindu or Jewish, Flying Spaghetti Monster equivalent whilst you are at it? I'm sure they are traditional?

I just don't get Christening at all if you aren't a Christian. I'm certainly glad I wasn't Christened. Being Christened is about religion and is a religious ceremony, and if you aren't religious, why would you bother?

[Davie]

Is there really such a thing as a baptism certificate?

I seem to recall that going back a few years, potential God parents used to have to be confirmed themselves before being eligible. My sister always wanted me to be god parent to one of her kids but because I wasn't confirmed she said it wasn't possible - She does treat me as an unofficial god parent to her kids though (or at least she did - they are grown up themselves now)

My own daughter wasn't even christened as we decided to let her make her own choices. As she became a teenager she got involved in church groups off her own bat (it was actually the choir she was interested in - she attended a church school at the time though as stated she wasn't baptized) and made her own decision to undergo baptism and confirmation. Now she is older I think she realizes it was only the choir scene she was interested in and not the rest of the church scene, but I'm glad me and the ex allowed her to make her own choices in the matter)

[super_realist]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-28586702

Not been a great year for Giraffes

[pedro]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-28586702

Not been a great year for Giraffes

It's not beacuse it's a giraffe, but this could only happen in Africa.

[super_realist]

Careful now, Guns might call you racist for that one.

[pedro]

Careful now, Guns might call you racist for that one.

Maybe. But I'm right.

[GunsGerms]

That Justin Bieber needs a good hiding.
 
Running his mouth again. This time  at Orlando Bloom.
Bloom went to punch him but missed.
 
Funny though people like Bieber run their mouth when their 'homies' are with them.
 
Dont think he would be so quick to run it to anyone if he was on his own.
 
Coward.

That's unacceptable behaviour from Orlando Bloom.

Since when is it ok to hit a girl?

[super_realist]

How could he have missed a head that big would be my question.

[Diggers]

I am god parent to my sisters kids. I am not overly religious but I think in all likelihood I will have my little one christened.  I got married in a church and I like the trafition of having the little man christened in church as well.  We have a couple of faith schools near by but they accept people from all religions, I think they need to fill a quota.  I will want my child to go the the best school available, I prefer the options of general faith schools then private schools. I dont like that people can pay for better education. Nothing that can dine about ut though now.

Why don't you also get your kid the Islamic, Hindu or Jewish, Flying Spaghetti Monster equivalent whilst you are at it? I'm sure they are traditional?

I just don't get Christening at all if you aren't a Christian. I'm certainly glad I wasn't Christened. Being Christened is about religion and is a religious ceremony, and if you aren't religious, why would you bother?

Quite simple why Id bother. To prove you are a church goer you need to attend for a year, you then get a reference from the parish. For our school you have to attend one of 3 churches. Clear way to get noticed that you are going is a christening. Plus it's quite nice for the grandparents, basically it's just an excuse for a party with 50 minutes in a church included.
I don't think my time is that precious that I can't give up one Sunday in 3 to make sure my kids go to a good school.
Id also be quite happy with non denominational schools, but life it is what it is. So you can call me a hypocrite or a pragmatist, I'm fine with either.

[super_realist]

I am god parent to my sisters kids. I am not overly religious but I think in all likelihood I will have my little one christened.  I got married in a church and I like the trafition of having the little man christened in church as well.  We have a couple of faith schools near by but they accept people from all religions, I think they need to fill a quota.  I will want my child to go the the best school available, I prefer the options of general faith schools then private schools. I dont like that people can pay for better education. Nothing that can dine about ut though now.

Why don't you also get your kid the Islamic, Hindu or Jewish, Flying Spaghetti Monster equivalent whilst you are at it? I'm sure they are traditional?

I just don't get Christening at all if you aren't a Christian. I'm certainly glad I wasn't Christened. Being Christened is about religion and is a religious ceremony, and if you aren't religious, why would you bother?

Quite simple why Id bother. To prove you are a church goer you need to attend for a year, you then get a reference from the parish. For our school you have to attend one of 3 churches. Clear way to get noticed that you are going is a christening. Plus it's quite nice for the grandparents, basically it's just an excuse for a party with 50 minutes in a church included.
I don't think my time is that precious that I can't give up one Sunday in 3 to make sure my kids go to a good school.
Id also be quite happy with non denominational schools, but life it is what it is. So you can call me a hypocrite or a pragmatist, I'm fine with either.

That's a great shame you have to go to such dreadful lengths and dance to such a stupid tune just to get into a school.

The system needs a massive shake up if schools demands a stupid ceremony, attendance of fairy stories 1 week in 3 to try and con the school that you actually believe their nonsense and are a part of it. Rather transparent I would have thought, especially as you're likely to drop it like a stone once they're in.

[westisbest]

I have never found being a parent boring(boy is 9 months).

Anything but
.
I have a friend whose 11 year old is a bit of a pain in the a55.
No problem otherwise with friends kids.

[super_realist]

I could scarcely call you a hypocrite Diggers, even though Christians are some of the most hypocritical people in society, at least you have justification for going to church, even if it's completely selfish, at least you admit it, you must be one of the few that actually have a genuine reason.

[Diggers]

West, good for you mate, I know people who feel the same.
For me, if Id have found pushing a pram around fun I didn't have to wait to become a Dad to do it.
Similar some blokes enjoy the birth, I hated both of mine, can't see why watching your partner in agony for 8 hours would be considered fun. Great when the baby pops out, but on the whole not something Id ever want to do again and definitely won't be doing again.

[beninho]

We had a planned c section so didnt see my wife in hours worth of labour. But I saw her go into surgery , then you start panicking as your can hear what the doctors say. I'm not sure what is worse.

[gaelgowfer]

What a shock I got when first attending a Church of England service.  All that kneeling and canting.  I thought it was just the catholics who did that.  Coming from a staunch Orange Lodge type family, it was a helluva shock I can tell you.   

Still when in Rome ...

[super_realist]

No, when in Rome say no thanks, I'm washing my hair or watching the National Paint Drying Championships

[gaelgowfer]

No, when in Rome say no thanks, I'm washing my hair or watching the National Paint Drying Championships

Yes, well, sometimes s_r, it's the smart thing to just blend in.  You should try it sometime!

[super_realist]

Can't think off a single reason where attending a church service would be something that one should do.

[gaelgowfer]

Can't think off a single reason where attending a church service would be something that one should do.

Not so easy to say no when yer only twelve and half s_r.  

Still, I think I really started to go off the whole idea on my wedding day.  During the register signing part of the ceremony, the minister thought it a hoot to show off his prize possession ... a medieval chastity belt! 

[Diggers]

Love the CG BBC live feed. Amir Khan, supposed devout Muslim, keeps talking about putting his money on certain boxers and little bets he's had.
Time to read the Koran again Amir.

[super_realist]

Love the CG BBC live feed. Amir Khan, supposed devout Muslim, keeps talking about putting his money on certain boxers and little bets he's had.
Time to read the Koran again Amir.

Religious people are hypocrites be definition Diggers, nothing new about Khan being one.

[super_realist]

On another note, is there a conspiracy between the "less fortunate" that when they buy a dog, it has to be a staffie? Can't they be a bit more imaginative?

[pedro]

On another note, is there a conspiracy between the "less fortunate" that when they buy a dog, it has to be a staffie? Can't they be a bit more imaginative?

It's the chicken and the egg super.

[incontinentia]

Never knew the NI anthem for boxing is 'Londonderry Air' (Danny Boy).

Sounds a bit naughty...

[Diggers]

On another note, is there a conspiracy between the "less fortunate" that when they buy a dog, it has to be a staffie? Can't they be a bit more imaginative?

It's the chicken and the egg super.

Usually owner and dog are wearing matching chains.
Ugly, ugly animals. And the dogs aren't no oil paintings either!

[navyblueshorts]

Love the CG BBC live feed. Amir Khan, supposed devout Muslim, keeps talking about putting his money on certain boxers and little bets he's had.
Time to read the Koran again Amir.

Who cares? He'll just say some 'Hail Mary's (or the Islamic equivalent) and then all is forgiven!

[Diggers]

Sad to see the CG's end, really enjoyed them. Shows that not all sport has to be world class to be entertaining, though plenty of high quality has been on show. Must be fantastic to be part of a team at a huge multi sport event. Makes a change as a viewer from all the usual sports served up week in and week out on TV.
As long as they keep the games away from third world nations, which seems to be plan, Im sure they will thrive. Glasgow a good model to show you don't have to spend billions.

[navyblueshorts]

Agreed. Haven't watched as much as I thought but seemed like it was a lot of fun. Plenty of quality sport on show too.

[Diggers]

Looking like Jack Rodwell to Sunderland, if he's fit again could be an excellent signing for us, still only 23 and was quality at Everton.
Hopefully City haven't completely ruined him.

[westisbest]

Samuel Eto linked with you to Diggers.

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