2014 Summer Transfer Window Thread

[GSC]

Who really cares?

[CFCNick]

I dont normally comment on other teams players.

But £30m for Shaw is car azy.

That much for an 18 year old.

PSG did the same thing last year. But, you know it's ok because United do things the "right" way.

Remind me where are money comes from?

I don't know. You're in massive debt and didn't qualify for Europe. Where did it come from?

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

The main issue be whether he crumbles under the pressure of the £30m move.  He's better than Evra so I'm not concerned about whether he's good enough.

He is better then Evra now (current version). I think 30mill is a lot of money for a 18 yr old full back.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

It's not an awful amount. Add English tax (you have to) he's likely to be their full back for a long time. He's probably good enough to be first choice now, which is pretty impressive considering he could then be that for 10-15 years

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

It's not an awful amount. Add English tax (you have to) he's likely to be their full back for a long time. He's probably good enough to be first choice now, which is pretty impressive considering he could then be that for 10-15 years

Barring serious injury....

[Guest]

stop piping on about serious injury or cruciate ligaments. If everyone was this worried, no transfers would be done.

[GSC]

Yeah barring serious injury applies to every transfer ever

[Champagne_Socialist]

The main issue be whether he crumbles under the pressure of the £30m move.  He's better than Evra so I'm not concerned about whether he's good enough.

He is better then Evra now (current version). I think 30mill is a lot of money for a 18 yr old full back.

30 mil for an 18 year old with 1 years worth of epl experience. Will either turn out to be a rooney type move or an andy carrol type move.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I reckon he'll be eased in. Evra is still a decent player and will be worth playing for a decent chunk of games

[J.Benson II]

Shaw is a good player but it's just the price that's crazy. Southampton have some good English players but they get over-rated due to the novelty of a PL team full of young English talent.
You had people putting both Lallana and Shaw in the PL team of the season for instance (ahead of the likes of Silva and Azpilicueta).

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Curse of the English. I can only imagine RAWK are slapping a £50m price tag on Flanagan.

But considering Southampton don't want to sell, he's young, English and has just played in the World Cup I guess it isn't too surprising that it's £30m.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

You'd imagine Utd will deal with him like they did with De Gea, with a fairly capable experienced player to share the workload and help ease him in

[compelling and rich]

Who really cares?

uefa and FFP   

[GSC]

UEFA doesn't even really care, FFP is a publicity stunt.

[Liam]

I don't think 30m is that bad tbh. He's already a good player at just 18, has everything to become a top class left back at only 18, and (barring serious injury that SOF keeps harping on about, almost as if he wishes it upon him to prove his point) he will be our and probably england's first choice left back for 10-15 years. When you look at it that way, its not a massive price to pay in my book.

[Ent]

It's a ridiculous amount, 2nd most expensive fullback ever and one of the most expensive defenders ever and not the finished product, literally no guarantee he will ever be good enough to be first choice for us. Never mind world class.

[compelling and rich]

i'd bet my left nut that the deal is structured like the rooney deal was, we always have in the big british deals for young players. we'll end up paying the full fee im sure but that only means that shaw has performed to expectations

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Lallana medical at Liverpool

25m plus add one

Awful lot to pay if he gets seriously injured

[compelling and rich]

id rather take 18 year old shaw for 27mil than 26 year old lallana for 25mil!

[Marky]

Red Devils sign striker!

Crawley Town have announced Matt Harrold joins them from Bristol Rovers  

[owen10ozzy]

25 million is a lot but then you could argue Lallana is more proven is some ways. Still a lot regardless when you consider that's only £7 million less than Barca payed for Fabregas...or same as Real paid for Beckham...or £13 mil more than Utd paid for Ronaldo ...   

Anyhow you get my point; sadly that's the way with English players...yet FA refuse to do believe that there is a problem with no players coming through of World Class ability...(they must not else more would be done to give English players opportunities in Premier League)...they must look at inflated prices like this and think...wow we have loads of world class players what are people on about!!

Glen Johnson 18 mill
Stwart Downing 20 mil
Darrent Bent 24 mil
James Milner 26 mil
Joleon Lescott 22mil
Wright Phillips 21 mil

Oh dear lord its frightening! Great link for anyone wanting to see the 100 most expensive transfers as of Jan 2014 and the inflation values!

http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/100-expensive-premier-league-transfer-fees-includes-5-newcastle-buys/

Anyhow...Koeman must be rubbing his hands near £60 million to spend (unless they don't let him use it of course)...goes abroad after selling 3 English players and brings in 6/7 proven players and shrinks the pool of English players in the Premiership even further! Woohoo bring on 2016 and that world cup win in 2022!!   

[Guest]

Lallana medical at Liverpool

25m plus add one

Awful lot to pay if he gets seriously injured

never been a huge fan of lallana, yes, technically good but just think alot of media got carried away with him & then people jumped on the bandwagon for england. thought he was average in the WC, few neat turns & passing but he's never worth £25m at his age. BR already panicking with life after suarez....

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

"@ManuelaNEWS: Suarez's personal lawyer Alejandro Balbi confirmed Suarez has a deal with Barcelona. Balbi is meeting Liverpool lawyers today in Barcelona"

[J.Benson II]

£25m for Lallana is a bigger joke as £30m for Shaw.
At least Shaw has the youth and can improve.

Would be better of getting someone like Arnautovic.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

"@SkySportsAmy: I'm told Arsenal are now very keen on signing Dejan Lovren. Could be a summer exodus at #saintsfc..."

Also the Nodge got transfer news in 15 mins, probably Snodgrass/Lafferty related

[Guest]

Arsenal might be keen but Southampton are having a closing down sale but for ridiculous prices.   Wenger will be put off.

Snodgrass for £7m is that Olly? Can see why we weren't interested.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Snodgrass is 7m rising to 8m. I like him but that's wayyyy too much and he's only got a year left on his deal so we probably would've sold for a reasonable price.

But hey when has Steve Bruce ever cared about overpaying for a player

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I do love Brucey. Snoddy for £8m makes Lallana look a snip!

But, seriously, that Lallana price is mad. Coutinho was apparently £8.5m. Let that sink in. I like Lallana, but its a hell of a price.

And what if he were to get seriously injured?! (Or more likely, considering the destination, bite someone)

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Yep kyle Lafferty confirmed.

Underwhelming, probably signals the end of Becchio, hopefully he can prove my initial fears wrong

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Shaw confirmed, looks to be £27m

[Gerry SA]

Rumours out of Madrid are suggesting Cristiano Ronaldo has asked Real Madrid to cancel the pending transfer of AS Monaco's Radamel Falcao.

Seems a rather odd rumour considering CR7 and El Tigre are close friends.

Anyway as present AS Monaco and Real Madrid haven't agreed a fee. Madrid's €40m opening bid was dismissed.

I'd expect AS Monaco would want around the €50-58m they paid Atletico last summer.

[Guest]

C. Ronaldo -----Falcao--------Bale
-----------------vs-------------
- Neymar-------Suarez-------Messi-

[compelling and rich]

C. Ronaldo -----Falcao--------Bale
-----------------vs-------------
- Neymar-------Suarez-------Messi-

think barcas edges it on paper, although they are very different. much more pace, power and aerial threat in real line up

[Gerry SA]

C. Ronaldo -----Falcao--------Bale
-----------------vs-------------
- Neymar-------Suarez-------Messi-

You mean

CR7 ------Benzema-----Falcao-----Bale

Neymar Jr------Suarez------Messi

Madrid has the better line up.

Neymar Jr is overrated. And Suarez might eat someone   

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Weird thing about certain players. Neymar looks the only player capable of doing anything good for Brazil (bar Oscar) but is still stuck with this overrated tag because thats the narrative many have for him.

I'd prefer Madrid's front three (I dont think Benzema and Falcao play in the same team.)

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Neymar for Brazil is a whole different animal to the one that was at Barca last year

[GSC]

Its pretty equal.

Suarez edges out Bale
Ronaldo edges out Messi
I'd have Falcao slightly ahead of Neymar at this point, Neymar suffers when hes not the focal point.

[Hammersmith harrier]

The Brazil team is built around him that's why, he'll never be the main man at Barcelona and he seems to struggle because of that.

[GSC]

Yes, hes very much like a far superior Adel Taarabt.

I'd build my team around him, I wouldn't add him to a team.

[The Special Juan]

2 in so far but I'm expecting more. The club have at least 1, if not 2 CBs to replace.

[Gerry SA]

Reports in the Netherlands are claiming Manchester United have agreed a fee with Feyenoord for the centre back Stefan De Vrij. Report claims deal could be concluded as early as tomorrow.

[compelling and rich]

Reports in the Netherlands are claiming Manchester United have agreed a fee with Feyenoord for the centre back Stefan De Vrij. Report claims deal could be concluded as early as tomorrow.

hope its true, lessons learnt from last season. get the deals done nice and early!!

[Duty281]

Maybe English players don't play abroad because of their ridiculous price tags?

£25 million for Lallana, a player who's probably reached the ceiling in terms of ability, and is good rather than great. That's about £10-15 million too much.

And £27 million for Shaw, a player who is more about his potential than any actual proven class, is taking the biscuit.

Why buy an Englishman when you can get a foreign player at much, much better value?

[compelling and rich]

there are a few benefits to buying home grown talent, there more likely to stick around for a lot longer and not want to move back abroad like a tevez and ronaldo did. look at the rooney and rio deals to see that if there good enough its worth while buying good english talent. but the markets gone crazy when the likes of downing, carrol, henderson and now lallana are all going for 20mil plus. none of them were particularity brilliant in the first place!

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Taking transfer inflation into account you can work out the £18m we got for Rio all those years ago is the equivalent to £46m in today's market.

But what if he'd got a serious injury?

[GSC]

Duty hit the nail on the head.

Shaw would probably be worth half that if he played abroad

[Lowlandbrit]

Shaw would probably be worth half that if he played abroad

To be fair, everyone knows English clubs are loaded with tv cash, and it's probably a lot cheaper for foreign clubs to replace their players to a decent standard.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Duty hit the nail on the head.

Shaw would probably be worth half that if he played abroad

It's a two edged sword, you pay more for English talent in the knowledge they know the league well or you go abroad for somebody who may or may not adapt to the pace of the premier league. As has already been mentioned an English player is also less likely to want to move after a few years so is a more secure long term investment.

That said it was only 9 years ago that we paid £5mil for Evra, what a steal that looks now.

[compelling and rich]

Duty hit the nail on the head.

Shaw would probably be worth half that if he played abroad

It's a two edged sword, you pay more for English talent in the knowledge they know the league well or you go abroad for somebody who may or may not adapt to the pace of the premier league. As has already been mentioned an English player is also less likely to want to move after a few years so is a more secure long term investment.

That said it was only 9 years ago that we paid £5mil for Evra, what a steal that looks now.

both evra and vidic deal have to go down as some of the best transfers deal in recent history, and both came in same window

[Liam]

Lallana is a poor deal for liverpool for a couple of reasons:

1) he's only an anterior cruciate ligament injury away from disaster

2) there are many players around europe who as good, if not better who could fit into liverpool's midfield and improve them and for far cheaper as well.

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