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Post by GSC Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:38 am

First topic message reminder :

Who really cares?
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:19 pm

Really? Thats all he has? I dont like throwing out the "how much of him have you seen?" but how much of him have you seen?!

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:26 pm

Good engine, great pace & can score some goals. He's not prolific though & the EPL will be tougher for him, than the stat enhancer that is La Liga. Seen loads of him in La Liga, inconsistent & there is a reason why Barcelona are selling. I'm not getting carried away because of WC performances, unlike some. He's a good signing, but is he the top striker who will score 30 goals, like Aguero, Suarez or RVP. Not for me.

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:37 pm

Viewed some Arsenal forums too tonight, saying the same thing. Sanchez is a good signing but he's not prolific & he wont solve the issue of Arsenals lack of goals in comparison to the title rivals. Remy too isn't a natural finisher, not sure why Wenger skirts around what Arsenal actually need. A top class, proven, prolific, world class or as near as striker, who will bang 30 goals & lead you to a title. That's my opinion.

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Post by GSC Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:38 pm

Amazing how Arsene hasn't accomplished such a simple task.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:45 pm

The guy was sensational in Italy, has been brilliant internationally before now and got 19 goals last season in La Liga.

Hes not the top striker who will score 30 goals because that isnt his position or game. But, arguably, when you have as good a side as goalscoring from its support staff as Arsenal do then you dont need the 30 goal man.

Its not the be all and end all, but its a brilliant signing nonetheless.

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Post by kingraf Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:49 pm

Lots of guys have not done well at Barça. Messi, for all his talents, doesn't do sharing
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:50 pm

GSC wrote:Amazing how Arsene hasn't accomplished such a simple task.

I sense sarcasm, but how many years does he intent to avoid buying a top class striker? Remy is a 1 in 3 man, Sanchez`s record isn't prolific, what is it 20 in 70 for Chile? He was sensational in Italy but goal tally was low.
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Post by Fernando Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:50 pm

Im delighted if it comes through when Theo is injured we lack people running on beyond Giroud so hopefully he'll sort that because Santi & Ozil won't do it.

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:57 pm

Fernando, I agree with your point. It's not the no.9 striker though, I believe Arsenal required to go to the next level, that's all my point was.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:06 pm

I just dont agree that that is the reason they didnt break down the top teams. They didnt have a foothold to defend midfield against them. They need pace for those games, why Walcott's injury was such a blow, but Sanchez would offer the ability to get in behind if he played centrally or if he played deeper.

Unless they can get an absolutely top drawer, can't be turned down striker, then its not an issue. Its certainly lower priority than right back and deeper in midfield

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:48 am

Thought you'd be interested to know Olly that according to our young Jack, Nathan Redmond would cost a club £10m to buy.

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:40 am

Newcastle back in for Remy. Looks like we lost out on everyone else & throwing everything behind this deal, which is a positive. Also, looking to wrap up the Remy Cabella deal for around £10m.

Galatasaray reveal that £20m(euros) to activate Sneijder release clause. Good luck with that.

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Post by Liam Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:01 pm

I suppose with Sanchez moving to Arsenal, the chances of Remy going there now are pretty low. Do you think he'd want to go back to newcastle john or do you think he'll try and hold out for a move elsewhere, maybe to Spurs or a club like that?

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:09 pm

We are definitely not his first choice, that's Arsenal, then his backup is Spurs. At Arsenal he will get limited time behind Sanchez/Giroud, not sure Spurs is a massive step up to us in all honesty. I hear we are now desperate for Remy after missing out on all the other targets, I expect we will make it financially rewarding for him coming back to us. If Cabella can join too, would be a huge double swoop & would also persuade Moussa Sissoko to stay.

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Post by Liam Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:14 pm

Surprised Cabella (No offence meant here John) hasn't attracted bigger clubs. Wasn't it only last summer he was linked with Man Utd? swear the owner said he was worth 70m or something stupid or am i thinking of someone else? Keeping Sissoko would be a massive plus. Still need to replace Cabaye however

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:21 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Thought you'd be interested to know Olly that according to our young Jack, Nathan Redmond would cost a club £10m to buy.

Pretty much a big eff off then
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Post by The Special Juan Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:38 pm

So Evra's asked to leave? Good, there's no room for sentiment in football.
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Post by whocares Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:41 pm

John wrote:Newcastle back in for Remy. Looks like we lost out on everyone else & throwing everything behind this deal, which is a positive. Also, looking to wrap up the Remy Cabella deal for around £10m.

Galatasaray reveal that £20m(euros) to activate Sneijder release clause. Good luck with that.


Montpeliler president keeps on saying he "needs" 16M€ for Cabella (£12-13m). Marseilles also allegedly interested and they paid that sort of money for Thauvin last year so who knows.

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Post by Hero Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:42 pm

The Special Juan wrote:So Evra's asked to leave?  Good, there's no room for sentiment in football.

He asked to leave last summer too.

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Post by The Special Juan Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:55 pm

He should have!! He must mean it this time then. Seeing as he only signed a new contract extension not that long ago (I think?) he's not after money.
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Post by Ent Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:59 pm

We've lost a lot of experienced heads this summer and brought in younger players so far. Would be good to have evra around from that point of view.

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:21 pm

Filipe Luis joining Chelsea.

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Post by Roller_Coaster Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:38 pm

I understand (ok merely read on t'BBC) that Evra had a 1 year additional year clause activated by utd, presumably in the full knowledge he wanted to go, so that they could generate something from a player that could otherwise have walked for nowt. Don't think he wanted to stay anyway, certainly didn't look like he wanted to be there last year anyway. Or the year before tbh.

Italy for Vidic and Evra? Makes sense because of the pace of play I guess, Italian sides can get years more effective use that a PL side for those that are skillfull enough and they certainly are. Leave the charging around at 100mph to the English sides.

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Post by westisbest Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:40 pm

We have been linked with Bendtner.
 
Lambert has sent Helenius back on loan frm where we got him.
Maybe if you played him Paul when Benteke was injured he might have done well.
At least give him a fkng go.
 
And I just read Lambert blocked the Hutton move to WBA.
 
 
FFS.

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Post by Ent Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:41 pm

Granted thats the most likely outcome, happy enough if he stays or goes.

We look very inexperienced at the back going into the new season, but plenty of time in transfer window.

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Post by compelling and rich Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:29 pm

inexperienced at the back or not its still better than having a defender who couldn't be arsed defending for the last 3 years, he needed to go.

not even convinced he was such a good leader, certainly didnt lead on the pitch and with france only seems to cause trouble. sign of the total lack of leaders we currently have that evra was vice/captain at times

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Post by GSC Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:30 pm

Villa to sign Kieron Richardson, laying down the gauntlet to West Brom in the battle to sign **** players for free
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Post by GSC Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:47 pm

West Ham make a 12m bid for World Cup Wonder Enner Valencia
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:39 pm

Been scouting him for six months apparently. We must have been gutted when he played well in the World Cup. Price hike. We obviously want to upgrade our winger-cum-striker position, we wanted to last year and fluffed it, so we've looked at Valencia and Konoplyanka.

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Post by Fernando Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:44 pm

We're hearing that Chile forward Alexis Sanchez has now passed his medical at Arsenal and the 25-year-old's switch from Barcelona to the Emirates should be confirmed very soon. Alexis is understood to have agreed a four-year deal and the fee will be around £32million

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:47 pm

Hes not very good though, ask John

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Post by GSC Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:48 pm

Tbf he has a decent engine and some pace to go with it.
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Post by Mat Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:58 pm

westisbest wrote:We have been linked with Bendtner.
 
Lambert has sent Helenius back on loan frm where we got him.
Maybe if you played him Paul when Benteke was injured he might have done well.
At least give him a fkng go.
 
And I just read Lambert blocked the Hutton move to WBA.
 
 
FFS.

That's a relief! Though Hutton will probably end up scoring against us now.

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Post by Ent Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:13 pm

compelling and rich wrote:inexperienced at the back or not its still better than having a defender who couldn't be arsed defending for the last 3 years, he needed to go.

not even convinced he was such a good leader, certainly didnt lead on the pitch and with france only seems to cause trouble. sign of the total lack of leaders we currently have that evra was vice/captain at times  

I think you do him a disservice. Past his best bit I thought he was reasonable this season.

Certainly a big personality within the dressing room and very much known as a leader.

I feel his experience could be invaluable off the pitch. With vidic and rio gone and giggs retiring we've only really carrick and Rooney as seasoned campaigners used to winning things.

Either way extending his contract either means we get a few quid for him or make use of his non playing skills so I think it was a good idea all in all.

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Post by compelling and rich Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:37 pm

Ent wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:inexperienced at the back or not its still better than having a defender who couldn't be arsed defending for the last 3 years, he needed to go.

not even convinced he was such a good leader, certainly didnt lead on the pitch and with france only seems to cause trouble. sign of the total lack of leaders we currently have that evra was vice/captain at times  

I think you do him a disservice. Past his best bit I thought he was reasonable this season.

Certainly a big personality within the dressing room and very much known as a leader.

I feel his experience could be invaluable off the pitch. With vidic and rio gone and giggs retiring we've only really carrick and Rooney as seasoned campaigners used to winning things.

Either way extending his contract either means we get a few quid for him or make use of his non playing skills so I think it was a good idea all in all.

on the pitch i think he's been shocking and lazy, doesnt even bother getting out to the wingers and lets them cross it in. decent going forward which he gets to do a lot playing for united but a absolute liability defending. put him in a team where he wouldnt be able to attack all game and you would see that he wasnt "reasonable"

giggs is still in the dressing room, lack of leaders has been a problem with this united team way before vidic and evra started leaving. RVP is the only one who's been captain anywhere

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Post by The Special Juan Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:39 pm

It means Utd have to announce a captain and a vice-captain.  Rooney and Carrick/Fletcher?
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Post by compelling and rich Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:42 pm

The Special Juan wrote:It means Utd have to announce a captain and a vice-captain.  Rooney and Carrick/Fletcher?

all depends on what LVG thinks of rooney, i dont want him as captain thats for sure. holland captain under LVG has been RVP so may continue it, he obviously trusts him. i have no idea who else there is, evans?

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Post by The Special Juan Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:56 pm

I don't see Evans being captain but he's a good shout for vice-captain. I completely forgot about RVP - he has to be nailed on for it surely?
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Post by compelling and rich Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:00 pm

The Special Juan wrote:I don't see Evans being captain but he's a good shout for vice-captain.  I completely forgot about RVP - he has to be nailed on for it surely?

think id be happy with rvp captain carrick/evans vice, as long as its not rooney in either. although LVG may placate him by making him vice

im still hoping for a experienced CB to come in, he may well be a candidate

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:10 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Hes not very good though, ask John

You clearly can't understand English. Never said he wasn't any good, just not the prolific striker that Arsenal needed, to be the difference maker in the big games.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:23 pm

John, wind it in, I was taking the mick

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Post by GSC Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:29 pm

#bantz
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:34 pm

Bantz was on #flames so im sad its all gone wrong #sake

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:55 pm

Saints and Stoke are apparently after Redmond for 6m.

Would have to double that to get us listening I'd imagine, considering what Snodgrass fetched
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:58 pm

Your get over it DZ, just like you had to, when Colback chose Toon, instead of your gaffe. #moveon.

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Post by CFCNick Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:19 pm

Hero wrote:To put in perspective with other bets:

James Rodriguez to Real Madrid 3/1
Lovren to Liverpool 1/5
Lukaku to A.Madrid 11/8
Khedira to Chelsea 5/4
Balotelli to Arsenal 8/13
Higuain to Liverpool 7/2
Hummels to Utd 7/4
Cavani to Utd 6/4
Robben to Utd 13/8
Benzema to Arsenal 7/4
Barkley to City 2/1
Ronaldo to Utd 7/1
Rooney to Chelsea 6/1
Hazard to PSG 7/4
Alves to PSG 4/7
Pogba to Utd 4/1
Reus to Arsenal 3/1
Di Maria to Utd 6/4
Walcott to Utd 6/4
Schweinsteiger to Utd 8/11
Richards to Newcastle 4/7

Kherdira to Chelsea has been rumoured since the dawn of time. He won't come now we signed Pasalic yesterday.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:30 pm

John wrote:Your get over it DZ, just like you had to, when Colback chose Toon, instead of your gaffe. #moveon.

You're not my real dad

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Post by Hero Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:47 pm

Pogba has been sightseeing in London today (several photos doing the rounds).

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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:51 pm

Sanchez has been confirmed as an Arsenal player!!!!

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20140710/alexis-sanchez-agrees-to-join-arsenal

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:56 pm

Can't wait until October when Arsenal fans are ripping into him for failing to score against Hull
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