2014 Summer Transfer Window Thread

by GSC Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:38 pm

First topic message reminder :

Who really cares?

by GSC Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:52 pm

Why, he's crap

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:20 pm

There's just players you love and only really appreciate inside your own club. None of you get Carlton, and thats fine, but I love the man. Same-ish with Holt

by Fernando Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:51 pm

http://www.whufc.com/articles/20140717/hammers-agree-valencia-transfer_2236884_4012331

by westisbest Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:02 am

Exactly Dolph.

I've had a few favourites at Villa over the years, who havn't been great.

Big Fash, Lee Hendrie, Tommy Johnson, Ian Taylor to name a few.

by Guest Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:36 am

Anyone listening to the LVG press conference.

Van Gaal drops big news, saying Carrick injured for a long time, too long. Haven't heard about Vidal as of yet.

by FootballLight Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:11 am

Lowlandbrit wrote:
FootballLight wrote:As you can see with Bolton, Blackpool and Birmingham (now), they got relegated from the PL, didn't sell any of their players, couldn't win promotion in the first season and now all 3 clubs are struggling financially
Blackpool aren't struggling financially, their chairman just doesn't spend any money on them. I'm pretty sure that study that had the Championship a billion pounds in debt had them as the only club with money in the bank.

So then, if they have got "money" as you claim, why do they only have 8 first team squad players currently and their chairman Karl Oyston has said they will have a full 25 man squad by the start of the season, they just lack finances? Everything you have said there is completely false, and doesn't make much sense to be perfectly honest.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:15 am

One of the notes I saw on twitter was that LVG either said or it was inferred that he wouldnt make signing for a little while.

Sky report that West Ham bid £4m for Boca Juniors left back Emiliano Insua (not ex Liverpool player). We were in talks with Boca and him 3 weeks ago, so whether its slowly catching up or we've gone back in I don't know. However, they also "understand" we are closing in on the signing of Croatian defender Ivan Strinic who is a left back. It sounds to me like we're carrying on our approach of negotiating with a few options in the position we want to reinforce. I think its a great approach.

Livorno president also says we're interested in their striker Paulinho

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:21 am

FootballLight wrote:
Lowlandbrit wrote:
FootballLight wrote:As you can see with Bolton, Blackpool and Birmingham (now), they got relegated from the PL, didn't sell any of their players, couldn't win promotion in the first season and now all 3 clubs are struggling financially
Blackpool aren't struggling financially, their chairman just doesn't spend any money on them. I'm pretty sure that study that had the Championship a billion pounds in debt had them as the only club with money in the bank.

So then, if they have got "money" as you claim, why do they only have 8 first team squad players currently and their chairman Karl Oyston has said they will have a full 25 man squad by the start of the season, they just lack finances? Everything you have said there is completely false, and doesn't make much sense to be perfectly honest.

I know very little about Blackpool but even I know Oyston is shafting them currently

by GSC Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:22 am

Oyston refuses to spend money on agent fees for some reason

by Guest Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:27 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:One of the notes I saw on twitter was that LVG either said or it was inferred that he wouldnt make signing for a little while.

Said he wanted to view the first team & give them the opportunity to impress. It's the classic 'give everyone a chance' comment, but he already knows what's what. If Carrick is injured for months, just speeds up the chance of signing the direct replacement in my opinion & getting him in ASAP. Waiting a few weeks would be a mistake, need to integrate them during pre-season.

by Lowlandbrit Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:28 am

FootballLight wrote:So then, if they have got "money" as you claim, why do they only have 8 first team squad players currently and their chairman Karl Oyston has said they will have a full 25 man squad by the start of the season, they just lack finances? Everything you have said there is completely false, and doesn't make much sense to be perfectly honest.

Because their chairman keeps pocketing any money they make instead of investing it in the squad.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2611556/Blackpool-exclusive-Club-owners-paying-26m-Premier-League-promotion.html
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/may/22/championship-club-accounts-profit-loss-and-the-wage-bill

by NickisBHAFC Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:32 am

People like Karl Oyston wreck football clubs and wreck peoples weekends. Get him out of football and give Blackpool fans there football club back.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:35 am

John wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:One of the notes I saw on twitter was that LVG either said or it was inferred that he wouldnt make signing for a little while.

Said he wanted to view the first team & give them the opportunity to impress. It's the classic 'give everyone a chance' comment, but he already knows what's what. If Carrick is injured for months, just speeds up the chance of signing the direct replacement in my opinion & getting him in ASAP. Waiting a few weeks would be a mistake, need to integrate them during pre-season.

See, if i'd seen the quote I'd have taken it like a normal person and not the way that journo represented it. Silly mugs.

Aren't they off to the US tomorrow? I'd imagine nothing will happen for at least a week, and no chance Vidal is done this weekend like someone guessed

by GSC Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:36 am

We just signed someone while in Portugal.

by FootballLight Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:37 am

The point of mine was that Blackpool are struggling for money and need some investment. You cannot say that I am wrong because no matter what/where he puts his money, it isn't into Blackpool. I doubt he gains that much anyway and they are struggling financially. No matter what you're argument is to it, there is no denying they are struggling, because the money isn't in the club, it is elsewhere.

by NickisBHAFC Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:39 am

West Ham have made some very good signings. Interesting to see how they do next season. But against Stevenage in there pre season game on Saturday sounded like it was the same old route one football.

by GSC Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:40 am

Your point was they were struggling for money because of highly paid players.

Which never applied to Blackpool.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:46 am

NickisBHAFC wrote:West Ham have made some very good signings. Interesting to see how they do next season. But against Stevenage in there pre season game on Saturday sounded like it was the same old route one football.

I'd heard we played notably different to last season, wingers tighter in etc. And no, you won't get the bite you swine

by Fernando Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:48 am

Maybe you can persuade Hero to filter the word "bite" to something offensive about Nick

by FootballLight Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:51 am

When did I ever mention highly paid players regarding Blackpool? I did with Norwich, not Blackpool, or at least I do not recall. But here is my evidence and I will take quotes, backing up exactly what I said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28194124

"Blackpool's fans are frustrated at what they view as a lack of investment by chairman Karl Oyston"

"It is no good to jumping to conclusions. We need to give it time to settle down and then see what happens. That Premier League season put the club on its feet financially, now it's up to the club to get on with it." Jimmy Armfield

"Achieved on the lowest wage bill in the Championship, it was witnessed by one of the smallest average attendances in the division and masterminded at a dilapidated training ground still in use since the days of the legendary Stanley Matthews." - This shows a lack of finances at not being able to upgrade their facilities and improve elsewhere.

"The mood of supporters did not improve when they learned the club paid £11m(This here is a link) to a company owned by Owen Oyston - Karl's father - during the Premier League campaign, equating to £211,538 a week and putting Oyston senior among the highest earners in world football."

"The squad is not just thin, it is almost non-existent," says Glenn Bowley, chairman of the club's official supporters' association. "There seems to be a significant lack of progress. It is a complete and utter shambles." - Once again, shows a lack of finances

"What is causing widespread unrest and anger is a perceived lack of investment since a Premier League season that generated £80m - a sum the chairman claimed would "change the club forever". - Once again, shows another lack of finances

"Since the end of last season, 27 players have left, including their player of the year and one of the most highly-prized assets in British football." - Once again shows a lack of finances

That is just about to be honest. I don't think there is much more to read about the club's financial state apart from Karl Oyston's stories on how the club are in a "strong position" and his reassurance to the fans that the finances will get better and the club will improve, squad size wise anyway.

If the club weren't in trouble financially, don't you think they would have at least a squad of 18 by now, not 8?

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:55 am

Do you think you're telling us stuff we don't know? None of us were sitting here thinking Tom Ince, Charlie Adam and co we are all still there and they were in great health?

by Guest Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:57 am

As for Carrick, out for 10-12 weeks as has had ankle surgery.

by FootballLight Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:00 am

No, but your still missing my point!! My point is, they are struggling financially because of their relegation from the PL, not because of their high paid players which they never had or because of any other reasons you seem to tell me, that I already know. You clearly don't know much of this because you are still missing the point about how they are struggling financially because of their relegation from the PL, that is my point!!

by GSC Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:00 am

FootballLight wrote:As you can see with Bolton, Blackpool and Birmingham (now), they got relegated from the PL, didn't sell any of their players, couldn't win promotion in the first season and now all 3 clubs are struggling financially

I mean, why would you include didn't sell any of their players (their 2 best players actually left after that season, one for over 10m) otherwise

by FootballLight Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:06 am

I didn't mean exactly collectively mean with all 3, the problem is, they didn't make enough profit out of selling their best players, even if they did sell or not.

by Lowlandbrit Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:27 am

FootballLight wrote:You clearly don't know much of this because you are still missing the point about how they are struggling financially because of their relegation from the PL, that is my point!!

And you're somehow missing our point, which is that it's a bit strange to include a team that didn't really spend any money on getting to, staying in, or getting back to the Premier League when talking about teams not adjusting to life after relegation.

by kingraf Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:33 am

The Morata to Juventus deal is apparently now in limbo. We really aren't going to raise funds for a big money move. On the bright side, ordered my "Kroos 8" shirt. First Madrid jersey I've bought since "Ronaldo 9" five years ago when my dad got swept up with the euphoria in the capital. Bloody madridistas

by Hammersmith harrier Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:22 am

I think Raf that one deal will set off a chain reaction in the transfer window as it always does, Juve aren't in a position to buy without first selling and Real can't buy without selling and so on.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:41 am

Also rumours linking us with Saphir Taider of Inter and Ben Arfa. I'd love em both

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:52 am

Michu has gone Napoli on loan, though I expect that'll go permanent after the year

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:01 am

Van Gaal wrote:“My method is always the same and I want to look at the players present. Of course I know how they play but I do not know the players I have trained. So the first three to four weeks I will see how they can do and then maybe I shall buy other players. Shaw and Herrera were already on the list and I gave my approval because I like them but first I want to see the player perform my philosophy.”

Whether its reflective of what will happen or not, I'll leave that there for later when United dont sign anyone

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:06 am

Arsenal

In: Alexis Sanchez (Barcelona, £30m) Debuchy (£10m or something)

Aston Villa

In: Philippe Senderos (Fulham, free), Joe Cole (West Ham, free), Tom Leggett (Southampton), Isaac Nehemie (Southampton), Kieran Richardson (Fulham)

Burnley

In: Lukas Jutkiewicz (Middlesbrough, £2.5m), Michael Kightly (Stoke City), Marvin Sordell (Bolton, free), Matt Gilks (Blackpool, free), Matt Taylor (West Ham, free), Steven Reid (West Brom, free)

Chelsea

In: Cesc Fabregas (Barcelona, £30m), Diego Costa (Atletico Madrid, £32m), Mario Pasalic (Hadjuk Split), Filipe Luís (£20m)

Crystal Palace

In: Chris Kettings (Blackpool, free)

Everton

In: Gareth Barry (Manchester City, free)

Hull City

In: Robert Snodgrass (Norwich, £7m), Jake Livermore (Tottenham, £6m), Tom Ince (Blackpool, free)

Leicester City

In: Matthew Upson (Brighton, free), Marc Albrighton (Aston Villa, free), Ben Hamer (Charlton, free), Jack Barmby (Manchester United, free)

Liverpool

In: Adam Lallana (Southampton, £25m), Lazar Markovic (Benfica, £20m), Emre Can (Bayer Leverkusen, £9.8m), Rickie Lambert (Southampton, £4m)

Manchester City

In: Fernando (Porto, £12m), Bacary Sagna (Arsenal, free), Willy Caballero (Malaga, £6m)

Manchester United

In: Luke Shaw (Southampton, £27m), Ander Herrera (Athletic Bilbao, £29m), Vanja Milinkovic (FK Vojvodina)

Newcastle United

In: Emmanuel Rivière (Monaco), Remy Cabella (Montpellier, £12m), Siem de Jong (Ajax, £6m), Ayoze Perez (Tenerife, £1.5m), Jack Colback (Sunderland, free), Janmaat (£6m?)

Queens Park Rangers

In: Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United, free)

Southampton

In: Dusan Tadic (Twente, £10.3m), Graziano Pelle (Feyenoord, £9m)

Stoke City

In: Mame Biram Diouf (Hannover, free), Dionatan Teixeira (Banska Bystrica), Phil Bardsley (Sunderland, free), Steve Sidwell (Fulham, free)

Sunderland

In: Billy Jones (West Brom, free), Jordi Gomez (Wigan, free), Costel Pantilimon (Manchester City, free)

Swansea City

In: Marvin Emnes (Middlesbrough, £1.5m), Bafetimbi Gomis (Lyon, free), Lukasz Fabianski (Arsenal, free), Stephen Kingsley (Falkirk)

Tottenham Hotspur

In: None

West Bromwich Albion

In: Craig Gardner (Sunderland, free), Joleon Lescott (Manchester City, free), Chris Baird (Burnley, free), Sebastien Pocognoli (Hannover 96)

West Ham United

In: Cheikhou Kouyate (Anderlecht, £7m), Mauro Zarate (Velez Sarsfield), Aaron Cresswell (Ipswich), Diego Poyet (Charlton), Enner Valencia (undis.)

by Nakatomi Plaza Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:09 am

You can add Debuchy to Arsenal, and Janmaat to Newcastle, as both have been confirmed.

by Hammersmith harrier Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:16 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Van Gaal wrote:“My method is always the same and I want to look at the players present. Of course I know how they play but I do not know the players I have trained. So the first three to four weeks I will see how they can do and then maybe I shall buy other players. Shaw and Herrera were already on the list and I gave my approval because I like them but first I want to see the player perform my philosophy.”

Whether its reflective of what will happen or not, I'll leave that there for later when United dont sign anyone

We'll sign at least two more, it's more a case of who.

by compelling and rich Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:21 am

John wrote:
Fernando wrote:I think they may target Hummels now Ginter has joined Dortmund.

Adrian Ramos, Ciro Immobile, Dong-Won Ji & Matthias Ginter have been the signings this year for Dortmund. Bayern won't be too worried.

I don't see United getting both, maybe one. I'd actually be disappointed that LVG had to basically blow £100m + in one summer on players to get United back into the top 4 & his so-called brilliant management, couldn't achieve this, with just two signings. I know United needed strengthening but I thought a proven manager alone, could of done the job.

were not settling for just getting back in top four, that's minimum requirement. get those signing mentioned and we would be challenging for the title and be a force in europe again when we get back in there. or at least thats the aim

by Guest Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:25 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Also rumours linking us with Ben Arfa.

Just fined him this week. Keep him off the pies if you can.

The Carrick injury will force LVG's hand. United will be bringing in, I wouldn't believe a word LVG has to say. You can't go into the EPL season with Cleverley, Fletcher, Fellaini & the inexperienced to the EPL Herrera in that midfield.

Has James Rodriguez fee agreed been confirmed then to Madrid?

by Gerry SA Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:26 am

Many media outlets in Spain are suggesting Real Madrid will complete the signing of James for a fee of anywhere between €80-€107m.

Deal will be completed once Angel Di Maria joins PSG.

by Guest Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:29 am

£63m I hear for James?

by Gerry SA Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:35 am

John wrote:£63m I hear for James?

That was the original offer.

I think AS Monaco have set their stall on £85m/€107

Looks as though Falcao can't leave unless Benzema is sold.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:39 am

I know United will be buying, I've just left that quote there to calm people down when he doesnt move instantly

by Guest Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:47 am

Give us £6m for Ben Arfa, I think we'd snap your hand off. Time to get rid of HBA.

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