England v India First Test Trent Bridge

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The 5 test series cramped into a 42 day schedule gets underway at Trent Bridge tomorrow. The 2 middling sides have a lot to prove. Hopefully we'll get to have some exciting cricket.

Now highest ever for an England No 11 ...move over John Snow   

It's his first fifty ever!! I can't even deal... This is the greatest day ever

kingraf wrote:It's his first fifty ever!! I can't even deal... This is the greatest day ever

I'm due Gerry will be delighted too   

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:

Gerry SA wrote:Sky sports getting excited over Jor Root's average of 45 and 4 hundreds.

He's a shocking player.

8 Tests outside England he averages mid 20s. With only 2 50s.

4 cheap hundreds on these crap pitches shows how crap he is.

A bit OTT to suggest he's a "shocking" player?  

Just ignore Gerry...he's a well-known WUM. Nothing he posts is worth reading (he's been on my ignore list for ages).   

4 byes against Dhoni. Bet he enjoyed that one!

Everything else this summer will be a massive disappointment compared to this

Olly wrote:This is cricket peaking.

Literally it'll never get better than a James Anderson 50. 

*edit - he just nutmegged Dhoni with a reverse sweep. Its majestic

A James Anderson 100?

GSC wrote:

Olly wrote:This is cricket peaking.

Literally it'll never get better than a James Anderson 50. 

*edit - he just nutmegged Dhoni with a reverse sweep. Its majestic

A James Anderson 100?

Only if he gets to the hundred hitting it off his man sausage

I suppose when you've endured a summer of Mitchell Johnson trying to break your arm, this really is feast-on bowling

Largest partnership in the match.....  

hehe.

get in england.. India are as dweeby as we are at the end of an opponents innings.

435/9, trail by 22. I would declare now - seriously! India are demoralised and don't expect it. Give 'em 20 minutes before lunch. Nothing for Cook to lose and a lot to gain.

Gerry SA wrote:Sky sports getting excited over Jor Root's average of 45 and 4 hundreds.

He's a shocking player.

8 Tests outside England he averages mid 20s. With only 2 50s.

4 cheap hundreds on these crap pitches shows how crap he is.

Are you doing this for attention Gerry. awww

 Did your parents never hug you? heres one from me!  


Root is the best talent in the game. all the shots and has great grit.

Anderson has now hit 14 boundaries - one more than Root.   

guildfordbat wrote:435/9, trail by 22. I would declare now - seriously! India are demoralised and don't expect it. Give 'em 20 minutes before lunch. Nothing for Cook to lose and a lot to gain.

That would be the positive / proactive option, but you have to remember Cook tends to be defensively-minded. I reckon he'll want to get ahead of India, no matter how small the margin.

Plus the rate Jimmy's going, he could be on for a ton of his own...now that really would be unbelievable!

In the words of Mrs. Thatcher: "I'm enjoying this, I'm enjoying this!"

England have, at the very least, trapped India in a dead end, and will be able to have a real go with the ball in the knowledge that a win for the visitors will be highly unlikely.

And isn't Anderson just darling?

I thought ABdVs 66-ball hundred would be the most remarkable thing I'd see today... boy was I wrong.

guildfordbat wrote:435/9, trail by 22. I would declare now - seriously! India are demoralised and don't expect it. Give 'em 20 minutes before lunch. Nothing for Cook to lose and a lot to gain.

What do we do now?. its a really tough one- we have gone from being in good shape to get a draw to this!

For me let the last make history and go for a double hundred partnership with jimmy getting a ton , get a 70 odd lead then bowl them out for 100 when they are demoralized

"@jonathanliew: James Anderson has now hit as many fours in this innings as Alastair Cook has in 2014."

Some amazing stats flying around.

You can't declare, let the Burnley Lara continue!!

Seriously why are they still bowling short

No we don't need to declare; just keep batting.

Bat the day if we can, and approach that figure of 650 I mentioned yesterday...

mystiroakey wrote:

guildfordbat wrote:435/9, trail by 22. I would declare now - seriously! India are demoralised and don't expect it. Give 'em 20 minutes before lunch. Nothing for Cook to lose and a lot to gain.

What do we do now?. its a really tough one- we have gone from being in good shape to get a draw to this!

For me let the last make history and go for a double hundred partnership with jimmy getting a ton , get a 70 odd lead then bowl them out for 100 when they are demoralized

Lol! Possibly a tad optimistic but England are most definitely in the ascendancy now. Reckon India will bat pretty much as they did in the first innings, so England will need to be a bit cleverer, if they are to get them out cheaply (or at least to give themselves a chance of the win).


This is currently the 4th largest last-wicket stand in the history of Test cricket...nice!   

An England win is still a huge outside bet, but we can be glad that che chances of defeat have been negated hugely.

What would it take for an England win? Lead of 50 (minimum), and then shoot India out for below 200 on a dead surface.

Tricky!

Strange - at this point you would think we would just run for anything- but the lads are still playing to a plan. Its good tbh. This is taking the p!ss out of india-Make sure we just get the lead which will make them blush. This could be the winning partnership of the series.

I wasn't expecting Cook to declare but throwing it out there as a possibility and saying what I would do from my armchair!

Whatever happens, it'll be good for England if the Indian opening batsmen only have 10 minutes to get ready after we finish our innings rather than the whole luinch break.

guildfordbat wrote:435/9, trail by 22. I would declare now - seriously! India are demoralised and don't expect it. Give 'em 20 minutes before lunch. Nothing for Cook to lose and a lot to gain.

I quite like your lateral thinking there , guildford . I imagine you were a fairly innovative captain in your playing days ?
Might have been worth a try - too late now - but the other side is that bowling India out quickly on this is still rather unlikely ; so grinding them into the dirt for as long as possible might be even better ?
An actual lead for England would be an improbable feather in their cap ...and would also help to deflate India . But even more the drag on their bowlers ... Every extra over of toil is chipping away at their morale.

150 partnership up!

150* partnership.   

and the pedulum has swung..the crown for who is more useless has moved to Dhoni's head   

for now atleast

Jimmy brings England level with India with yet another boundary, taking him to 69. Now the 2nd highest 10th wicket stand of all time.

Seems Root and Anderson have taken the hint from some boos from the crowd, for refusing runs, and are now getting on with it again.

Jimmy gives him the charge and levels the score !

Quite the momentum shift   

Wonder what the betting shops were offering on an England lead when Plunkett got out ?

This partnership has now lasted the length of an entire t20 match!

Don't get why Root is refusing singles. Andersons 69 NO

And England take the lead!

About thirty overs quicker as well!

Dhoni remembers Binny is in the team (Why?) and brings him on for his seventh over   

Actually wondering when MSD takes the pads off and has a trundle himself...

An extra half-hour as well for this session, I'm thinking that benefits England!

GSC wrote:Don't get why Root is refusing singles. Andersons 69 NO

? But plan seems to be working rather well ...maybe they aren't game to change it ?   

Cry more in hope than expectation

Ah ...they delay lunch now in these circumstances. Newish rule.

Just as well it wasn't there when Mike Gatting was playing ...he'd have gone on strike in protest

alfie wrote:

GSC wrote:Don't get why Root is refusing singles. Andersons 69 NO

?   But plan seems to be working rather well ...maybe they aren't game to change it ?    

Thing is, just blocking and turning down runs when they're available just stifles the game and kills England's momentum. If they really want to demoralise India, they should try to rack up a lead of 50 or so as quickly as possible and declare, or just throw the bat until one of them is out.

dhoni wil now be happy if Eng bats on....takes defeat out of the equation ( for India)

Maybe , dyrewolf. But I am not complaining. Think killing them slowly might be better in the long run.

dyrewolfe wrote:

alfie wrote:

GSC wrote:Don't get why Root is refusing singles. Andersons 69 NO

?   But plan seems to be working rather well ...maybe they aren't game to change it ?    

Thing is, just blocking and turning down runs when they're available just stifles the game and kills England's momentum. If they really want to demoralise India, they should try to rack up a lead of 50 or so as quickly as possible and declare, or just throw the bat until one of them is out.

i dont know- just playing proper test cricket like this is and maximising there chances to score runs and take time has worked to give them a 160 partnership- this partnership could literally go on for ever!

KP_fan wrote:dhoni wil now be happy if Eng bats on....takes defeat out of the equation ( for India)

How?

The only way defeat is out of the equation for India is if England bat till tomorrow...a tad unlikely.

mystiroakey wrote:

dyrewolfe wrote:

alfie wrote:

GSC wrote:Don't get why Root is refusing singles. Andersons 69 NO

?   But plan seems to be working rather well ...maybe they aren't game to change it ?    

Thing is, just blocking and turning down runs when they're available just stifles the game and kills England's momentum. If they really want to demoralise India, they should try to rack up a lead of 50 or so as quickly as possible and declare, or just throw the bat until one of them is out.

i dont know- just playing proper test cricket like this is and maximising there chances to score runs and take time has worked to give them a 160 partnership- this partnership could literally go on for ever!

Maybe - but that won't win the match for England.   

And now England have the highest last-wicket partnership of all time, beating Hughes and Agar's record.   

Now for god's sake get on with it, build a lead and get India batting again.

Appeals getting a bit desperate now.

I think England should just maintain their present strategy.

Bat as long as possible, the runs will taker of themselves, and pin India further into the corner where their only hope is a draw or defeat.

Duty281 wrote:

KP_fan wrote:dhoni wil now be happy if Eng bats on....takes defeat out of the equation ( for India)

How?

The only way defeat is out of the equation for India is if England bat till tomorrow...a tad unlikely.

Yes, this is a rather curious stance to take.

India don't have time to bat England out of the game and leave enough time to be confident of taking 10 wickets, while if India get knocked over for <250 England could chase it

Trent Bridge really should be fined for this pitch though

Absolute dog of a wicket