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Confirmed: Mayweather vs. Maidana II, 13th September, MGM Grand.

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Post by All Time Great Thu 10 Jul 2014, 7:45 pm

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Post by kingraf Thu 10 Jul 2014, 7:52 pm

Looks legit.
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Post by wheelchair1991 Thu 10 Jul 2014, 8:03 pm

Not sure how well this will do in terms of ppv

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Post by owen10ozzy Thu 10 Jul 2014, 8:46 pm

Hooray another nothing fight for Floyd; granted the first fight was much closer than many thought it would be but have to feel that Maidana missed the boat last time out and Mayweather should win with some to spare this time.

Strange thing is that if it was a case of Floyd getting old last time out then he risks losing his unbeaten record and claims of being up there with Ali etc by losing to a B class fighter...surely make far more sense to lose it to a fellow all time great and much more thought of opponent.

Plenty of other fights out there I would have much preferred to see him in at this stage of his career. Showtime must be trying there best not to cry given the $200 million + they have pumped into his contract...they will be no where near getting that money back come the end at this rate.

Guerrero = 900k (rough estimates) $60 million ppv revenue
Alvarez = 2.2 m = $150 Million ppv revenue
Maidana = 900 k (rough estimates) $60 million ppv revenue

take off a guaranteed $105 million for Mayweather purses from those..leaves $165 million!

Still have to account for Floyds pretty huge % of PPV sales and the other fighters purse splits and PPV splits...then other expenses I simply can't see how Showtime get much back on this investment.

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Post by Dipper Brown Thu 10 Jul 2014, 8:50 pm

No interest whatsoever, personally. Not keen on rematches unless there's unfinished business (unfinished business is a trademark and not to be used without explicit permission Wink!).

Close but conclusive first time around, what more are we going to find out. Predicting much of the same second time round. Would rather see Khan, Porter, Thurman or Lara. Or obviously Pacquaio

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Post by Strongback Fri 11 Jul 2014, 5:47 am

Been playing it very safe since Castillo.

In time the record books will be correctly evaluated. He won't be Top 10 or Top 20 in the ATG stakes.

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Post by jimdig Fri 11 Jul 2014, 7:21 am

I thought I was a mayweather fan/ or at least an appreciator of his talent. Got up at stupid o clock to watch the last fight, as I have been with mayweather for quite some time now. Was surprised at just how much more satisfying it was watching mayweather getting hit clean repeatedly than watching him shoulder roll to safety. 

More of mayweather getting caught clean? Yes please. More of mayweather being forced to fight on the front foot, as defence on the the ropes is useless? Yes please. Maidana v mayweather 2? Yes please.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Fri 11 Jul 2014, 8:20 am

I can't understand why people are uninterested in this fight. Maidana gives Floyd one of his toughest fights albeit IMO Floyd was a clear winner.

Granted Floyd will most likely win in more convincing fashion much like the Castillo rematch but it will be fascinating to watch.

Just need to get tickets now!

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Post by Derbymanc Fri 11 Jul 2014, 9:05 am

Not having seen it I don't know but while Floyd got tagged more than he had in a while, wasn't he a clear winner???

If so then I don't really see the point. If it was close then fair enough.

Otherwise another easy fight and another stick for people to bash him with (deservedly I might add)

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Post by milkyboy Fri 11 Jul 2014, 9:06 am

I was uninterested in the first fight and it was a pleasant surprise. Given the first fight you can see the marketing angle for the rematch. Some obviously thought maidana won. I had floyd reasonably comfortably in the end, and just can't see maidana doing anything differently.... Also think floyd knows what he needs to do now and will win with a bit more to spare.

Given the first fight, we can't complain its a terrible match up, it's just I 'd rather he faced someone new.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Fri 11 Jul 2014, 10:47 am

I hope Maidana gets his MX gloves approved for this one. I want to see what would happen to Floyd if he had to take the shots every other Maidana opponent had faced; would he have been knocked down by the shots that buzzed him early in the fight? Would that body attack have been more effective early on in the fight and hindered his late rounds rally?

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Post by Derbymanc Fri 11 Jul 2014, 10:52 am

I thought the gloves got sorted for the first fight and it was something that got blown out of all proportion???

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Post by hampo17 Fri 11 Jul 2014, 11:09 am

No he was forced to use gloves with more padding in the end, didn't use his normal choice.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri 11 Jul 2014, 11:16 am

Pointless fight. Maidana has nothing to offer other than a spirited performance in the first fight but still got well and truely beaten.
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Post by Derbymanc Fri 11 Jul 2014, 11:20 am

Cheers Hampo, I remember going off about it at the time but was sure I'd seen something saying he hadn't.

I'm sure Floyd will make him wear the same type gloves again, but if I was Maidana I'd be shouting from the rooftops now about how he'd have beaten him with proper gloves. Might not be true but would help him get a few extra buys.

Still a bad fight but then I don't expect the top 2 to take a really tough fight when their fans aren't too fussed by it.

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jul 2014, 12:01 pm

Dipper Brown wrote:No interest whatsoever, personally. Not keen on rematches unless there's unfinished business (unfinished business is a trademark and not to be used without explicit permission Wink!).

Close but conclusive first time around, what more are we going to find out. Predicting much of the same second time round. Would rather see Khan, Porter, Thurman or Lara. Or obviously Pacquaio
Try tell that thieving c**t Hearn...he nicked it off me in the first place.

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Post by Dipper Brown Fri 11 Jul 2014, 12:15 pm

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Post by Derbymanc Fri 11 Jul 2014, 12:16 pm

Join forces with Strongy Dave I'm sure he'll help you get retribution for it Wink

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jul 2014, 1:00 pm

Only time I'll join forces with STRONGY is to assist with his suicide

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Post by milkyboy Fri 11 Jul 2014, 1:11 pm

I think the kind of 'assisting' you're thinking of might blur the boundaries between suicide and murder Dave.

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Post by Derbymanc Fri 11 Jul 2014, 1:40 pm

Just arrange a meeting and dress up as Eddie Hearn, he'd either fall at your feet praising you, or die of a heartattack as he thought the devil had shown up in person

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jul 2014, 2:02 pm

milkyboy wrote:I think the kind of 'assisting' you're thinking of might blur the boundaries between suicide and murder Dave.
That's why we have Courts, Judges and Juries

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Post by Strongback Fri 11 Jul 2014, 2:09 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Only time I'll join forces with STRONGY is to assist with his suicide


Dave needs assistance to find his c*ck.

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jul 2014, 2:10 pm

Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Only time I'll join forces with STRONGY is to assist with his suicide


Dave needs assistance to find his c*ck.
That's why there's your wife and sister

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Post by Strongback Fri 11 Jul 2014, 2:12 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Only time I'll join forces with STRONGY is to assist with his suicide


Dave needs assistance to find his c*ck.
That's why there's your wife and sister


Neither of them are interested in baldy little squirts with a 2 incher.

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jul 2014, 2:22 pm

Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Only time I'll join forces with STRONGY is to assist with his suicide


Dave needs assistance to find his c*ck.
That's why there's your wife and sister


Neither of them are interested in baldy little squirts with a 2 incher.
Think you'll find it's a three incher...mind you, some women don't like it that thick....thankfully your wife and sister love it

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Post by Strongback Fri 11 Jul 2014, 2:32 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Only time I'll join forces with STRONGY is to assist with his suicide


Dave needs assistance to find his c*ck.
That's why there's your wife and sister


Neither of them are interested in baldy little squirts with a 2 incher.
Think you'll find it's a three incher...mind you, some women don't like it that thick....thankfully your wife and sister love it


Dave I know you're small but there's no need to talk about the height of your shoe lifts.

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jul 2014, 2:41 pm

Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Only time I'll join forces with STRONGY is to assist with his suicide


Dave needs assistance to find his c*ck.
That's why there's your wife and sister


Neither of them are interested in baldy little squirts with a 2 incher.
Think you'll find it's a three incher...mind you, some women don't like it that thick....thankfully your wife and sister love it


Dave I know you're small but there's no need to talk about the height of your shoe lifts.
Hey, whatever you need to do to rid you of the image of your wife and sister riding the length of my pole with a look of sheer delight plastered across their faces (not the only thing plastered across their faces either!!!)

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Post by Strongback Fri 11 Jul 2014, 2:49 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Only time I'll join forces with STRONGY is to assist with his suicide


Dave needs assistance to find his c*ck.
That's why there's your wife and sister


Neither of them are interested in baldy little squirts with a 2 incher.
Think you'll find it's a three incher...mind you, some women don't like it that thick....thankfully your wife and sister love it


Dave I know you're small but there's no need to talk about the height of your shoe lifts.
Hey, whatever you need to do to rid you of the image of your wife and sister riding the length of my pole with a look of sheer delight plastered across their faces (not the only thing plastered across their faces either!!!)


As I said they would have no interest in a little bald death metaller that works in admin for plod and speaks with a Bradford accent.

There's a lot of things going against you there kid.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Fri 11 Jul 2014, 3:08 pm

I actually am interested, whereas i wan't for the first

Yes Floyd probably had an off night and could well dominate Marcos this time around, but Marcos will make it hot while he can, wont stop throwing and if he can get floyd on the ropes he will score to the body and try to wear him down

Floyd hasn't taken much punishment but he doesn't have the same legs and can be hit and bullied!! Just a shame Canelo tried to box him instead of brawl like marcos did as his size and power could have troubled floyd moreso

Thurman is too high a risk for floyd with little reward atm so cant see it happen and who knows if khan can stay unbeaten

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Post by Guest Fri 11 Jul 2014, 3:43 pm

Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Strongback wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Only time I'll join forces with STRONGY is to assist with his suicide


Dave needs assistance to find his c*ck.
That's why there's your wife and sister


Neither of them are interested in baldy little squirts with a 2 incher.
Think you'll find it's a three incher...mind you, some women don't like it that thick....thankfully your wife and sister love it


Dave I know you're small but there's no need to talk about the height of your shoe lifts.
Hey, whatever you need to do to rid you of the image of your wife and sister riding the length of my pole with a look of sheer delight plastered across their faces (not the only thing plastered across their faces either!!!)


As I said they would have no interest in a little bald death metaller that works in admin for plod and speaks with a Bradford accent.

There's a lot of things going against you there kid.
And as I said, whatever you need to convince yourself that Lady Snottington and Princess Twitterford aren't gobbling c()ck whilst laughing at the thought of the look on your face if you ever found out they were indeed "slumming it"

Thankfully the internet appears to be a wonderful place for finding evidence of ladies who think they're better than others debasing themselves in a manner that would cause a will to get re-written quicker than you can say "Swallow that first, then you can have some more m'lady!"

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 11 Jul 2014, 4:35 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:Hooray another nothing fight for Floyd; granted the first fight was much closer than many thought it would be but have to feel that Maidana missed the boat last time out and Mayweather should win with some to spare this time.

Strange thing is that if it was a case of Floyd getting old last time out then he risks losing his unbeaten record and claims of being up there with Ali etc by losing to a B class fighter...surely make far more sense to lose it to a fellow all time great and much more thought of opponent.

Plenty of other fights out there I would have much preferred to see him in at this stage of his career. Showtime must be trying there best not to cry given the $200 million + they have pumped into his contract...they will be no where near getting that money back come the end at this rate.

Guerrero = 900k (rough estimates) $60 million ppv revenue
Alvarez = 2.2 m = $150 Million ppv revenue
Maidana = 900 k (rough estimates) $60 million ppv revenue

take off a guaranteed $105 million for Mayweather purses from those..leaves $165 million!

Still have to account for Floyds pretty huge % of PPV sales and the other fighters purse splits and PPV splits...then other expenses I simply can't see how Showtime get much back on this investment.

You then have to factor in the other incomings like ticket sales and sponsorship money, Showtime will be making a fairly hefty profit from his fights as long as he's bringing in on average over 1mil PPV buys.

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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 11 Jul 2014, 7:23 pm

Hammersmith;

From what I read and know I'm not sure Showtime receive anything from ticket sales or closed circuit that is essentially the promoters cut. Sponsorship I'm not sure about and advertising I would imagine is pretty non-existent given there is very little of it (well certainly over here)...

WWould be interested to know more about this part if anyone can shed any light on it though; just by my account showtime make back their investment through PPV sales only..

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 11 Jul 2014, 7:41 pm

That promoters cut goes toward paying Mayweather though Owen something you hadn't taken into account considering it's his promotional company.

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