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Broner Vs. Matthysse On Mayweather Undercard

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:11 am

Sounds like this fight has been made, I know JBW will have a mild hard on for this, and I'm gonna join him with it.

Honestly think this is a great fight, bit of a make or break for Broner, he takes a shellacking from another Argentinian hard man and you get the feeling his career will be sent back to the stone age, he wins and he answers a few questions, depending on the manner I suppose.

Makes total sense financially, big American name faces big Argentinian name on the main event, biggish American name faces biggish Argentinian name on the chief support. Actually looking forward to this one a little more than the main event, hell... A lot more!

So how do we see this one panning out then?

Has Broner learned from his previous mistakes, rectified them and has the perfect opponent to show what he has changed, or will he be same old, same old and have an absolute mare against the Argentinian hard man? Has Matthysse had anything taken out of him from the last couple of fights he's had, knocked down 3 times in the last two fights and took a lot of big punches?

One thing for sure, this fights got my balls tingling.

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Post by Gerry SA Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:28 am

ShoTime's Stephan Espinoza confirmed over the weekend that Broner will not be fighting Matthysse.

Matthysse is set to fight Roberto Ortiz(31-0-1). Ortiz is the WBC 'silver belt' champion at 140lbs.

There's a rumour stating Danny Garcia will be stripped if his WBC 140lbs belt and that the vacant belt will be on the line between Matthysse and Ortiz.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:30 am

Well, that's made me all soft.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:35 am

Thought Broner had rejected this. Didn't surprise me either.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:23 am

Broner rejected as far as reports suggest?? Didn't want to take another beating from a beast.

Not yet anyway.

Not sure who he is lined to fight.


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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:25 am

Hats off to Broner if true, massive risk and should be all wrong for him.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:28 am

Now I've read the rest of the thread I'm dissappointed, if unsurprised.

Nice to see DG being stripped though.......

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Post by Derbymanc Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:36 am

Why's Garcia being stripped?

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:41 am

No idea, in fairness he did 'defend' it in the last 6 months and has another defence lined up.

Does he hold another belt? WBC don't like to share....

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Post by Gerry SA Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:44 am

WBC unhappy that Garcia's fighting Rod Salka.

WBA wanted to see Garcia rematch Herrera or Matthysse.

Garcia also holds the WBA title, so I doubt he'll care too much.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:59 am

Garcia being stripped after his hectic 18 months is laughable..

Holmes fought Marvis Frazier, Zanon, Cobb, Rodriguez, Ocasio, Leon Spinks, Ocasio etc etc..under the WBC...

Absolutely laughable !!!

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Post by Valero's Conscience Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:03 am

Perfect fight but been hearing Matthysse got someone else and Broner wouldn't jump in against another pressure slugging Argie too soon!

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:16 pm

Yea would be a bit much for Broner to jump in with matthysse

I do think some of the fear of matthysse has gone, didn't look all that sharp in his last fight but i guess he'd been out for a while and came back very strongly and put a beat down on Molina

Matthysse probably has a better style for Broner tbh compared to marcos. He's a much cuter boxer than maidana and is harder to budge, but maidana's workrate and unorthodox style made it a nightmare for Broner to slip, problems even Floyd encountered. Matthysse would give Broner more time to land his counters, but I don't think he has the pop or workrate to beat Matthysse ad once again could take a hammering, lets see if he can withstand the punishment as I still think matthysse is a bigger hitter than Marcos

While I don't like Broner, he showed guts against Maidana and can be in entertaining fights, and I'd love matthysse to come back strong he's a great exciting fighter and with him in the mix the division is stronger

Hope they don't get matched too soft though

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:02 pm

Oh god dammit Alex. Having read the opening I went ahead and got a pre emptive tattoo of Matthysse defenestrating Broner with an uppercut and now this. Humph.

I do agree that Mathysse lost some of his aura during the Garcia match and during the first few rounds of the Molina fight, but my word did he get some back during the second half! The merciless, bloody nature of his response, against a guy used to taking punches with contempt was enough for me to think he's not lost anything yet. Especially given the way he used the jab effectively to open things up.

Though Broner v Matthysse may be a wet pipe dream, it would be a great match. Would Broker be stupid enough to do his usual early fight routine of just looking at what the opponent has to offer and giving little in return? Broner seem to have the legs or brains to box on the backfoot, so his best bet may be to try beating Lucas to the punch with superior handspeed and discourage him, but he'd have to up his workrate considerably to keep Matthysse at bay.

I'd predict a late round KO in favour of Matthysse, unless the ref let's Broker make it a clinch fest as Matthysse' doesn't look like a really savvy in fighter.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:03 pm

Broner *doesn't seem to have the legs or brains etc.

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:34 pm

I thought those misspellings were deliberate, JBW. Part of your Angel Garcia impression.

"Man, **** Matusta! Danny already beat Matusta, he ain't nothin'! After Floyd whoops Madonna we gonna go after Madonna, too. Madonna lost to A Mere Con, but Danny already knocked Con out! And don't even talk to me about Promadivov - what's he got? One right hand over the top, that's it? They say Promadvidov's a killer, nah he ain't no killer! Parvodilov don't want it with Danny!"
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Post by John Bloody Wayne Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:38 pm

Un F ing canny.

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Post by 3fingers Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:10 pm

Respect to broner for taking/making this fight. Thats all I can say really. Paradoxically, a more technical version of maidana might play into broners arms.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:09 am

Word of the day fingers.....word of the day.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:30 pm

Yeah I'd agree with that, fairplay to Broner for taking this. What a fight. The op had it right all along. Is it definitely on?

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:29 pm

No, its not.

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