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Post by Trebs Tue 15 Jul 2014, 2:58 pm

First topic message reminder :

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Post by Afro Tue 22 Jul 2014, 9:44 am

If anyone is after a good cheap keeper, without having to use up a valuable TP, Abbiati is available.

I will sell him for the £800k I paid for him if anyone wants him, subject to my injuries today
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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 9:44 am

Anyway, can somebody do my lawyers (voting so don't need injuries)
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Post by Afro Tue 22 Jul 2014, 9:46 am

Will put you some up in 5
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Post by Marky Tue 22 Jul 2014, 9:47 am

sodhat wrote:Who for England captain for you guys?

Gary Cahill. Between Cahill, Rooney and Hart, as hard to argue anyone else warrants a starting place almost automatically.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 9:49 am

1 lawyer in the double digit millions region this week.
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Post by Afro Tue 22 Jul 2014, 9:50 am

Here you go GSC

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Post by Azzy Tue 22 Jul 2014, 9:54 am

I like how GSC gets to know his Lawyers in advance, and plan for 12pm, whereas we all have to wait and see...  Whistle 

England captain should ALWAYS be a CB. With Jagielka being duff, and Smalling and Jones also being duff, I give the captaincy to Gary Cahill.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 9:55 am

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Post by sodhat Tue 22 Jul 2014, 9:56 am

If someone gave Azzy a bar of gold he'd complain it was too shiny.

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Post by Afro Tue 22 Jul 2014, 9:59 am

sodhat wrote:If someone gave Azzy a bar of gold he'd complain it was too shiny.

And then Viva would accuse him of being anti United
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Post by Azzy Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:00 am

In case you didn't know GSC, I have shares in a tinfoil hat company.

Unless you're referring to my Cahill Proclamation, which I stand by regardless. He's a solid CB, good communicator, could learn from Terry at Chelsea, and allows the midfield to play the game rather than listen to Stevie G's horrible whiny voice. "Yeaaaahhhh courrrrrsssssseeeeee"

If Rooney is made captain, England may as well call up Steve Bruce for his long-overdue cap. They won't be qualifying for the World Cup anyway.

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Post by Azzy Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:00 am

sodhat wrote:If someone gave Azzy a bar of gold he'd complain it was too shiny.
Gold is heavy bruv.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:03 am

In a factoid that may only interest Hero; Bale, Ronaldo and Rodriguez cost more than Ajax have spent on players in their history.
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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:04 am

Will the captaincy inspire Rooney to greater heights for England or will it be another chain tying him to the first XI. It'll be Rooney no doubt though.
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:04 am

Afro wrote:
sodhat wrote:If someone gave Azzy a bar of gold he'd complain it was too shiny.

And then Viva would accuse him of being anti United

Straight after that you'd unfollow me on Twitter for being pro United.
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Post by sodhat Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:05 am

Ronaldo - Rodriguez - Bale

Wow

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Post by sodhat Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:05 am

But then:

Neymar - Messi - Suarez

Wow

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:05 am

+ Falcao
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Post by Marky Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:07 am

Gary Cahill could be the new John Terry, in footballing terms anyway. As Azzy pointed out, he is already learning from JT at Chelsea, is easily England's best available CB, and to be honest there's no other standout possible captain.

Hart is a goalkeeper, Rooney being made captain would be a joke, and the only other candidate is Wilshere, who can't be relied on for his fitness anyway.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:07 am

Navas
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Post by Afro Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:07 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:
Afro wrote:
sodhat wrote:If someone gave Azzy a bar of gold he'd complain it was too shiny.

And then Viva would accuse him of being anti United

Straight after that you'd unfollow me on Twitter for being pro United.

100% I would
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Post by sodhat Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:08 am

I'll be watching plenty of La Liga this year I suspect.

I've also made a decision. It's time to return to my spiritual home of Pro Evolution Soccer when I buy my new console. Fifa hasn't really changed since 2010.

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Post by Marky Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:09 am

sodhat wrote:Ronaldo - Rodriguez - Bale

Wow

I'd still argue that it's barely an improvement on;

Ronaldo - Isco - Bale

The fact their midfield pairing could be Modric and Kroos behind them is ridiculous.

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Kroos - Modric
Bale - Rodriguez - Ronaldo
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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:09 am

ter Stegan
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Busquets
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Messi-Suarez-Neymar
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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:11 am

sodhat wrote:I'll be watching plenty of La Liga this year I suspect.

I've also made a decision. It's time to return to my spiritual home of Pro Evolution Soccer when I buy my new console. Fifa hasn't really changed since 2010.

PES 5 and 6 were miles better than FIFA ever has been.
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Post by Marky Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:11 am

GSC wrote:
ter Stegan
?-Marquinhos-Pique-Alba
Busquets
Rakitic-Iniesta
Messi-Suarez-Neymar

ter Stegen
Montoya - Mascherano - Pique - Alba
Rakitic - Busquets - Iniesta
Suarez - Messi - Neymar

Like Henry, Eto'o, Ibrahimovic, Sanchez and Neymar before him, Suarez will be a wide striker to accomodate Messi.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:12 am

Then we just wait for Ancelotti to be sacked for not winning the league in February and Madrid to go to hell again.
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Post by sodhat Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:12 am

GSC wrote:
sodhat wrote:I'll be watching plenty of La Liga this year I suspect.

I've also made a decision. It's time to return to my spiritual home of Pro Evolution Soccer when I buy my new console. Fifa hasn't really changed since 2010.

PES 5 and 6 were miles better than FIFA ever has been.

PES 3 to PES 6 were the high point of football gaming for me.

I used to be Barcelona and one year I signed Maradona. The man was scoring from the halfway line.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:13 am

Possibly, I have a feeling Enrique is going to shake it up a bit, at least until Messi gets back to full fitness.

Good to see Madrid and Barca are ready to tear the Spanish league a new one again. I was worried by the parity last season.
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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:15 am

For some unknown reason, Vorm is signing for Tottenham.
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Post by Afro Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:15 am

Marky wrote:Gary Cahill could be the new John Terry, in footballing terms anyway. As Azzy pointed out, he is already learning from JT at Chelsea, is easily England's best available CB, and to be honest there's no other standout possible captain.

Hart is a goalkeeper, Rooney being made captain would be a joke, and the only other candidate is Wilshere, who can't be relied on for his fitness anyway.

I personally would go for Rooney. He is the only one of only two England players I look at and think shows leadership traits AND can still justify his place in the side. For me there is too much focus on Rooney's World Cup performances, and ignoring his impact in qualifiers.

The other one btw is Cahill and I wouldn't be against him being captain. Joe Hart has shown nothing to suggest he can lead, and Wilshere even less.
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Post by sodhat Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:16 am

Surely Lloris now has to be offskis. Maybe Real are continuing their binge.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:17 am

Lloris just signed a new 5 year deal
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Post by sodhat Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:19 am

So they'd get more money for him

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Post by Marky Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:20 am

sodhat wrote:Surely Lloris now has to be offskis. Maybe Real are continuing their binge.

Diego Lopez and Iker Casillas already there and Keylor Navas joining suggests otherwise.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:21 am

I guess PSG possibly.
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Post by Afro Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:23 am

Wasn't Diego Lopez linked to Monaco as part of the J-Rod deal?

PSG seems to make sense though with the FFP impact.
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Post by Azzy Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:24 am

Rooney has yet to put in even one vaguely world-class performance in an international tournament. He's scored a couple of goals, but he's no Muller. He's no Ribery. He's not even a Khedira. He is incapable of taking a team by the scruff of the neck and dragging them to victory.

I don't know whether Cahill can do that, but Rooney doesn't even warrant a place in the starting XI. There are better options for that Sheringham role.

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:24 am

PES was king from 3-6 but has struggled to make a come back since then. I'll be getting Fifa again, I can't see PES taking them over for another 50 years times have changed.
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Post by sodhat Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:24 am

Lopez would be going you'd think

Sirigu is a good keeper though so you wonder where he'd be going. Maybe back to Italy, AC could do with a goalie.

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Post by Afro Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:28 am

TheSecondComing wrote:Rooney has yet to put in even one vaguely world-class performance in an international tournament. He's scored a couple of goals, but he's no Muller. He's no Ribery. He's not even a Khedira. He is incapable of taking a team by the scruff of the neck and dragging them to victory.

I don't know whether Cahill can do that, but Rooney doesn't even warrant a place in the starting XI. There are better options for that Sheringham role.

Why does him not producing a world class performance mean he doesn't justify his place. On that basis, we have no one who should be in the side.

In that position, Rooney is by far the best player we have at our disposal. Whether he is world class or not is irrelevant, its whether there is better. For me there isn't.

It's the Kevin Pietersen syndrome where your best player takes the blame because they don't perform to their full potential.
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Post by sodhat Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:29 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:PES was king from 3-6 but has struggled to make a come back since then. I'll be getting Fifa again, I can't see PES taking them over for another 50 years times have changed.

I don't think Fifa are that far ahead any more. PES debuted a new engine last year and so this year it should be a bit more refined. I hold out hope that it can get back to being the game it was.

Fifa feels a bit formulaic now. Like you can only score certain goals. For instance in PES I could crack one from 30 yards and it'd have a chance of going in if it was caught right, in Fifa you just won't score that goal.

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Post by sodhat Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:29 am

Afro wrote:
TheSecondComing wrote:Rooney has yet to put in even one vaguely world-class performance in an international tournament. He's scored a couple of goals, but he's no Muller. He's no Ribery. He's not even a Khedira. He is incapable of taking a team by the scruff of the neck and dragging them to victory.

I don't know whether Cahill can do that, but Rooney doesn't even warrant a place in the starting XI. There are better options for that Sheringham role.

Why does him not producing a world class performance mean he doesn't justify his place. On that basis, we have no one who should be in the side.

In that position, Rooney is by far the best player we have at our disposal. Whether he is world class or not is irrelevant, its whether there is better. For me there isn't.

It's the Kevin Pietersen syndrome where your best player takes the blame because they don't perform to their full potential.

Although he is a big-jawed c*ntpuffin.

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:33 am

I've always found PES to be to kiddish and not a true reflection on Football. I'll give it a try this year but I really can't see me sticking with them. 

It's cool to hate Rooney, while the Milners and John Osheas of this world can hide behind mediocrity.
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Post by Hero Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:39 am

sodhat wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:PES was king from 3-6 but has struggled to make a come back since then. I'll be getting Fifa again, I can't see PES taking them over for another 50 years times have changed.

I don't think Fifa are that far ahead any more. PES debuted a new engine last year and so this year it should be a bit more refined. I hold out hope that it can get back to being the game it was.

Fifa feels a bit formulaic now. Like you can only score certain goals. For instance in PES I could crack one from 30 yards and it'd have a chance of going in if it was caught right, in Fifa you just won't score that goal.

I scored last night for FC Twente v Bayern Munich where a pretty poor cross from my winger came across the goal, bounced up at Neuer, hit him on the leg and went in.
Best keeper in the world, my arse.

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Post by Afro Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:40 am

Its picking your team based on performance compared to expectation, and not performance compared to each other.

Rooney at 80% is still better than the vast majority of alternatives
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Post by Azzy Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:44 am

Afro wrote:Why does him not producing a world class performance mean he doesn't justify his place. On that basis, we have no one who should be in the side.

In that position, Rooney is by far the best player we have at our disposal. Whether he is world class or not is irrelevant, its whether there is better. For me there isn't.

It's the Kevin Pietersen syndrome where your best player takes the blame because they don't perform to their full potential.
His place in the team has nothing to do with world class performances. It's to do with his level of performances full stop. In the last 2 years Rooney has failed to put in even a 7/10 game. I've watched every game. He's been utter shight.

In the #10 role I'd rather see any of:

Barkley
Sterling
Lallana
Townsend
Jay Rodriguez

Because each and every one will put in the effort. Rooney doesn't. He has only two states of physical readiness: overweight and incapable of keeping up, or headcase looney bin run around like Robbie Savage and forget you're playing for England. He lacks the maturity of Raheem Sterling, and he's had 74 kids by 74 different mothers already.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:48 am

And Marco Reus to Bayern apparently.

Bayern should just cut out the middle man and buy Dortmunds academy.
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Post by Hero Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:53 am

He'll get lynched by Dortmund fans if he does after Gotze and Lewandowski and saying the following earlier in the year:

I wish luck to Lewa and Gotze, but Bayern will never have me. Money is not everything.


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Post by Hero Tue 22 Jul 2014, 11:42 am

Happy birthday to Afro btw!!  cake Bubbly 

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