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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 17 Jul 2014, 20:50

First topic message reminder :

Brighton are gonna sign Chris O'Grady to replace Ulloa

Oh the lolz
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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Mon 21 Jul 2014, 21:37

PF4EC wrote:I dont understand why rodgers would go for lovren instead of hummels and lallana instead of kroos? they can offer champions league football now. They might not have prem experience but they are world cup winners and the cheaper options IF the majority of press reports are to be believed. If borini goes for £14mill that is one heck of a bit of business though!

Lallana and Kroos were two totally different situations. Lallana had 4 years left on his contract, and a hefty sell on clause which inflated his price. Also Kroos is reportedly earning £200,000 a week. I'd be surprised if Lallana's getting paid half of that. Over the time of their contract Real Madrid will spend considerably more money on Kroos, then Liverpool will on Lallana.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 21 Jul 2014, 21:37

Personally I think Oscar is a quality player who's only failing will be being managed by Mourinho who will stifle his attacking instincts.

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 21 Jul 2014, 21:40

ive heard plenty have the same opinion HH, for me though he's not done it enough to justify all the praise he gets. oscar was there before mourinho and didn't exactly set the world alight (bar one champions league game)

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 21 Jul 2014, 21:42

Yeah I can't say I'm too high on Oscar, good player sure, but not particularly great for me

I do like willian in the other hand
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Post by GSC Mon 21 Jul 2014, 21:45

Madrid will also get a lot more from Kroos than Liverpool will from Lallana
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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Mon 21 Jul 2014, 21:56

True, but the point PF4EC was making was that Kroos was cheaper, and that's not remotely true. Plus he only had eyes on joining Real so it's a moot point.

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 21 Jul 2014, 21:59

not necessarily true thats he's more expensive, real normally rake it in shirt sales for any star because of their huge global brand, while you may not attribute this solely down to kroos he will sell a fair few im sure after the world cup. cant imagine lallana selling many shirts in asia

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 21 Jul 2014, 22:05

I'm not so sure on that one C and R, I can't imagine the Germans would be too bothered buying a Real shirt while the Spanish and Asians would favour the bigger named Ronaldo and Rodriguez. Lallana as an English player could well sell a few in this country but neither I imagine will make somebody who wasn't going to buy a shirt go out and buy one.

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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Mon 21 Jul 2014, 22:10

I agree with HH. Real Madrid shirts with Ronaldo name apparently accounted for 1 million of the 1.4 million sold last year, but he's far more marketable than Kroos. Madrid bought Kroos because he's a bloody good player, not for his marketability.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon 21 Jul 2014, 22:12

Ilan means Brazilians can work. GOL

I love Oscar, not surprised that Mourinho thinks Willian and Oscar were affected in the season, second half mainly, by the looming World Cup. Seems to think they were only half with the side.

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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Mon 21 Jul 2014, 22:58

The Mirror are reporting Spurs have offered £20 million for Antoine Griezmann. Would be a fantastic buy if it came off.

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 21 Jul 2014, 23:33

Nakatomi Plaza wrote:I agree with HH. Real Madrid shirts with Ronaldo name apparently accounted for 1 million of the 1.4 million sold last year, but he's far more marketable than Kroos.  Madrid bought Kroos because he's a bloody good player, not for his marketability.

i know he wont be the main attraction but he will sell a few, wouldnt be suprised if adidas threw some money in aswell, started doing it more often these days liking there big high profile adidas sponsored players playing for a adidas teams. there was a lot of rumours with the ronaldo back to united was being pushed by nike

kroos isnt anywhere near a ronaldo in terms of marketability i know that, but he is a lot more than lallana and that was my main point. that real are not just getting the better footballer

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 22 Jul 2014, 00:02

United chasing Cuadrado according to some of them foreign papers

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Post by Nachos Jones Tue 22 Jul 2014, 08:01

Thank goodness I no longer have to see that disgrace of a person Evra play in the premier league. Horrible cowardly little man and good riddance to him. ManU have done the right thing in letting him go.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 08:43

Caulker to have a medical at QPR.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 08:47

On Harry Appreciation Day no less
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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:02

Sigurdsson back to Swansea.

Leicester have been foiled in their attempt to overpay for good Championship strikers, with a bid for Deeney rejected.
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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:14

Vorm to Spurs for some reason
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Post by Gerry SA Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:45

Germany and Borussia Dortmund star Marco Reus has rejected a move to Liverpool.

He's agreed a pre-contract deal with Bayern Munich to join them in 2015 for his £28m buy out figure.

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Post by J.Benson II Tue 22 Jul 2014, 10:53

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:United chasing Cuadrado according to some of them foreign papers

Wasn't really a fan of his during the WC. Came across as a bit of a headless chicken at times. I think United can do better.
Someone earlier had mentioned Shaqiri. That would be a quality signing for United imo.

And Liverpool stood no chance of getting Reus. Shame to see he's going to Bayern though. The German fans are going to lose interest in the BL if Bayern keep destroying their competition.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 22 Jul 2014, 11:12

Gerry SA wrote:Germany and Borussia Dortmund star Marco Reus has rejected a move to Liverpool.

He's agreed a pre-contract deal with Bayern Munich to join them in 2015 for his £28m buy out figure.  

Unfortunately that isn't possible, you can only sign a pre contract agreement in the final six months of your contract.

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Post by Gerry SA Tue 22 Jul 2014, 11:15

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Gerry SA wrote:Germany and Borussia Dortmund star Marco Reus has rejected a move to Liverpool.

He's agreed a pre-contract deal with Bayern Munich to join them in 2015 for his £28m buy out figure.  

Unfortunately that isn't possible, you can only sign a pre contract agreement in the final six months of your contract.
Sorry not a pre-contract.

But there's an agreement with the player and both clubs.

Dortmund will not look to flog him to another club.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 22 Jul 2014, 11:17

I highly doubt Dortmund would agree to anything of the sort, they would far rather he went abroad than to Bayern.

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Post by Gerry SA Tue 22 Jul 2014, 11:23

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I highly doubt Dortmund would agree to anything of the sort, they would far rather he went abroad than to Bayern.
Well Bayern have just signed Felix Gotze, younger brother of Mario, from Dortmund as well.

And I doubt that Dortmund would want Reus to leave Germany. Reus to Bayern makes their national squad even stronger.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 22 Jul 2014, 11:32

Why would Dortmund be concerned with the national team?

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Post by Hero Tue 22 Jul 2014, 11:38

Dortmund are majorly peeved at Bayern nowadays for Gotze and Lewandowski, their once friendly rivalry is now quite a hostile one.
Reus only in January stated 'I wish good luck to Lewa & Gotze but Bayern will never have me. Money is not everything'.

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Post by Hero Tue 22 Jul 2014, 11:46

It's also being reported that although Pep is a fan that the board have vetoed attempting the move due to the animosity that would arise from it.

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Post by Crimey Tue 22 Jul 2014, 11:50

If the James Rodriguez transfer goes through...

it means that he, Ronaldo and Bale will have cost Real Madrid around €265M: more than what Ajax have spent on transfers (€232M) since their founding in 1900.

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Post by Gerry SA Tue 22 Jul 2014, 11:53

Next year Reus has a £28m buy out.

Dortmund can't block the move even if they wanted to.

Similar to the Gotze move when Bayern activated his buy out clause.

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Post by Gerry SA Tue 22 Jul 2014, 11:54

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Why would Dortmund be concerned with the national team?
They more successful the national side are, the more money the German football federation make.

Therefore the more money they distribute to thr clubs.

Dortmund need all the money they can get to compete with the free spending Bayern.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 22 Jul 2014, 13:12

It really doesn't work like that, selling your best players to your main rival is never a good thing, would Arsenal have that attitude? No chance.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 22 Jul 2014, 13:16

Some news related to West Ham and a couple others too

1. Jack Collison - QPR
2. West Ham, Newcastle, Swansea and Everton are interested in Mbark Boussoufa
3. Lassana Diarra wants to come back to london West ham aren't interested as of yet
4. WBA in for Victor Moses
5. West Ham still after a loan for Atsu
6. Newcastle are considering offering Ben Arfa + money for Carroll

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Post by whocares Tue 22 Jul 2014, 14:27

Crimey wrote:If the James Rodriguez transfer goes through...

it means that he, Ronaldo and Bale will have cost Real Madrid around €265M: more than what Ajax have spent on transfers (€232M) since their founding in 1900.

seems widely confirmed ... amount varies between 80 and 90 M€

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Post by Crimey Tue 22 Jul 2014, 15:01

That statistic is ridiculous, I know Ajax have their fantastic youth system but for Real Madrid to match the money spent by one of the biggest football clubs in the world over 114 years on just three players is almost unbelievable.

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Post by GSC Tue 22 Jul 2014, 15:03

Its kinda irrelevant. For the vast majority of those 114 years, Ajax will have spent nothing on acquiring players. Then when you account for market inflation it makes sense.
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Post by Crimey Tue 22 Jul 2014, 16:24

James Rodriguez transfer confirmed for £63 million. Should start a dominoe effect now, Isco or Di Maria will have to go you would have thought. Probably Di Maria because he'd command the higher transfer fee, is older, has likely peaked and there is interest.

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Modric - Kroos
Marcelo - Ramos - Varane - Carvajal
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 That is a fantastic side and I think probably better balanced than Barcelona's front line.

Suarez
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Ratikic - Iniesta
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Think that Barcelona front three will be getting in each other's away a bit and I think Suarez and Neymar will struggle having to bow down to Messi as king.

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Post by The Special Juan Tue 22 Jul 2014, 18:07

Madrid's front 6 don't really offer much in terms of defense so any side willing to counter will have great success against that defense (provided they haven't conceded 10 by that time). As for Barca, that front 3 will never work. Messi and Neymar don't really work together so how can the addition of Suarez be beneficial?
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Post by Gerry SA Tue 22 Jul 2014, 18:11

Barcelona have stated that they will be playing Messi behind Suarez and Neymar.

      Neymar----------Suarez

---------------Messi

And Benzema is pretty much the weak link in the Real Madrid attack.

If they get Falcao than their attack will be unstoppable.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Tue 22 Jul 2014, 18:19

Bojan signs off Stoke on a four year deal.

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Post by The Special Juan Tue 22 Jul 2014, 18:24

I was a big fan of Bojan but he never kicked on like I expected. Can't see him doing much unfortunately.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 22 Jul 2014, 18:38

I think Suarez is the perfect player for Messi. Both those teams have keepers who havent played with that demand for success, both teams havent really done anything in defence.

I'd hope Barca play Masch in midfield and go buy some defenders. But I think they'll take a year to come back to the top properly so Madrid have the edge. Its all a bit of a new era at Barca and they need to get used to it.

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Post by kingraf Tue 22 Jul 2014, 18:50

I'm so happy about the Rodriguez signing, but at the same time, it seems pretty clear that we probably aren't going to win a coin toss... Still, we have La Decima, and even if we most likely get carved to pieces against teams that can defend, it's gonna be a riot, goals gol, golazos
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 22 Jul 2014, 19:10

Didnt see that Caulker to QPR had been confirmed. Good signing for them, although I hope he takes another club down. Palace miss out.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Tue 22 Jul 2014, 19:38

The Special Juan wrote:I was a big fan of Bojan but he never kicked on like I expected. Can't see him doing much unfortunately.
Was on loan at Ajax last year, didn't really impress. Plenty of moves, not much end product.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 22 Jul 2014, 19:41

Bojan - very underwhelming. Using the "once played for Barca" tag to forge a career nicely tho
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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Tue 22 Jul 2014, 19:49

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Some news related to West Ham and a couple others too

1. Jack Collison - QPR
2. West Ham, Newcastle, Swansea and Everton are interested in Mbark Boussoufa
3. Lassana Diarra wants to come back to london West ham aren't interested as of yet
4. WBA in for Victor Moses
5. West Ham still after a loan for Atsu
6. Newcastle are considering offering Ben Arfa + money for Carroll

Guarentee he'll be linked to QPR at some point, seeing as his best form in England was playing under Redknapp at Pompey.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 22 Jul 2014, 19:51

Could work out well or could be another QPR player who wants money and lifestyle not career.

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Post by Fernando Tue 22 Jul 2014, 20:39

Andy Carroll has re-injured his ankle.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2701638/Lionel-Messi-sounded-Arsenal-prior-signing-new-deal-Barcelona.html 

Not going to lie but this is by far the worst piece of football media writing ever.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 22 Jul 2014, 21:40

Not the same injury, and in fact if its anything to go by he was already out of the games anyway due to needed conditioning work as he'd come back too lean.

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Post by Fernando Tue 22 Jul 2014, 21:47

If he continues he's usual way you won't see him til January. It's a shame he gets injured alot he could be a top player if he stayed away from the injury table.

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