2014 Summer Transfer Window Thread

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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Brighton are gonna sign Chris O'Grady to replace Ulloa

Oh the lolz

[Guest]

No not Kagawa, I think he and Mata together could be deadly, the other three well good riddance.  A smaller world class squad would be more beneficial.

Think LVG sees him as surplus to requirements, in one of his first interviews when he arrived in the US he was complaining about the number of players we had for that position. Would imagine he sees Mata behind Rooney and RVP and then two of Herrera, carrick, cleverley, fletcher in centre mid behind

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Also sounds like Arsenal have interest in Douglas Costa, whilst Milan are interested in Joel Campbell.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Shame, hes been talking about how hes one of the squads best passers. Think he could be a great player in this league if used right, but might be best to get gone before he wastes too much of his career.

[Hero]

Douglas Costa is one of those that looked amazing at an early age but hasn't quite lived up to it so far, taking the cash at Shaktar didn't help him, a move could rejuvenate him certainly.

[Nakatomi Plaza]

Matt Law in the Telegraph's saying Mourinho wants rid of Torres, but cannot find a buyer. Looks like Chelsea will need to get rid of one of their foreign contingent as they have 18, so one would miss out on being registered for the Premier League.

[Nakatomi Plaza]

Douglas Costa is one of those that looked amazing at an early age but hasn't quite lived up to it so far, taking the cash at Shaktar didn't help him, a move could rejuvenate him certainly.

Any move for Costa could be extremely messy. He's represented by Kia Joorabchian, and all of his clients at Shaktar are refusing to return to Ukraine because of the unrest there. Shaktar's owner thinks Joorabchian using this to engineer moves.

[Ent]

Douglas Costa is one of those that looked amazing at an early age but hasn't quite lived up to it so far, taking the cash at Shaktar didn't help him, a move could rejuvenate him certainly.

Looked amazing or had good YouTube videos?

[Hero]

Douglas Costa is one of those that looked amazing at an early age but hasn't quite lived up to it so far, taking the cash at Shaktar didn't help him, a move could rejuvenate him certainly.

Looked amazing or had good YouTube videos?

I'm referring of course to the 2009 WC when he was coming through with Ganso and Texeira.   

[Crimey]

I don't understand people saying that because Southampton only finished ninth that the players aren't good enough for the top four. Are people not aware that the bigger clubs in England signing from mid-table and even relegation battlers is basically entirely common.

Manchester United last decade signed the likes of Carrick and Berbatov from Tottenham when they were finishing in a similar position. West Ham had basically all their best players taken from them, despite struggling and then being relegated, by bigger clubs. (Ferdinand, J. Cole, G. Johnson, Carrick etc.) Also see Aston Villa when they lost Barry, Milner, Downing and Young to bigger clubs despite not finishing ahead of those clubs. Arguably even Arsenal losing so many players to Manchester City could be a similar idea.

It's a fairly sound business plan, even if it costs the big clubs more money. Smaller clubs either develop players or buy them cheap from Europe or in the lower leagues and take the risk, the big clubs then see that the players are good enough for the Premier League and sign them. This reduces the risk of buying unproven players or throwing youngsters into their squad early.

While it's odd to see so many players leave one mid-table club to bigger clubs all at once, it doesn't mean that those players can't be better than the ninth place finish. Most of the players will improve by being surrounded by better players thus improving them and the team.

[Ent]

There's taking the pick of the lower placed clubs players and there is signing all of them.

Plus berbatov and young have been poor for united.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Spot on Ent, if they were all the cream they would have done better, personally think Spurs have better midfielders than Schneiderlin as it is.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Yer Berba was only top scorer in the Prem. And Young has regressed since being at United.

And this is coming from a team that has just spent £30 mill and £100k a week on a prospect

[Gerry SA]

Arturo Vidal 'has verbally agreed to join Man Utd'

This story just seems to run and run...

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He also has a verbal agreement with a local Gardener

[Lowlandbrit]

Blackpool have signed Jacob Mellis, Tomasz Cywka and Peter Clarke. They just need a goalkeeper now and they'll actually have a team for the first game.

[J.Benson II]

While it's odd to see so many players leave one mid-table club to bigger clubs all at once, it doesn't mean that those players can't be better than the ninth place finish. Most of the players will improve by being surrounded by better players thus improving them and the team.

As I've said before, it's the price these players are being flogged at which is ridiculous.

Guys like Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovern etc are good players. No one is questioning that. What we are questioning is why all these players who played for a mid table PL club are now considered the hottest talents in football and being valued at similar prices to Dortmund's and Athletico's stars after they came second in the Champions League.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Looks like Jenks will be ours on loan, Bruce has told talksport that they were after him but he wants to stay in London and has spoken to Sam

Now reports of a battle between us and QPR over Valbuena. One QPR will win with astronomical wages, our problems with Alou Diarra and Valbuena's past friendship with that Kumquat Barton.

[J.Benson II]

Surprised none of the top teams showed an interest in Valbuena. Quality player. Not the youngest but should still have a good 2-3 years in him.

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Sky Sources: Southampton hoping to sign goalkeeper, defender and forward by the end of the week

In other news, Manchester are hoping to sign a midfielder.

[Ent]

Eurosport saying £47 million for vidal is done. Is this a saga yet?

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Quotes from Juve saying he's staying.

Enner Valencia work permit done and player officially signed.

[Hero]

The Eurosport thing is just referencing the earlier Chilean Newspaper idle gossip.

[NickisBHAFC]

Jose Fonte is off to Cardiff I understand. Southampton clearing out more in there Sale.

[compelling and rich]

Jose Fonte is off to Cardiff I understand. Southampton clearing out more in there Sale.

dont understand this one, always thought fonte looked decent enough for saints, especially considering loveren has gone. no idea why they would want to sell him to a championship club

[Crimey]

While it's odd to see so many players leave one mid-table club to bigger clubs all at once, it doesn't mean that those players can't be better than the ninth place finish. Most of the players will improve by being surrounded by better players thus improving them and the team.

As I've said before, it's the price these players are being flogged at which is ridiculous.

Guys like Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Lovern etc are good players. No one is questioning that. What we are questioning is why all these players who played for a mid table PL club are now considered the hottest talents in football and being valued at similar prices to Dortmund's and Athletico's stars after they came second in the Champions League.

A combination of factors:

English players are more expensive because of homegrown rules and the fact that it's generally considered a good thing to have English players, therefore they are more valuable than a foreign alternative.
Clubs selling to a club in the same league as them also increases the price as they are selling to a competitor.

The reason why the big clubs want to sign those players rather than a cheaper, perhaps better alternative is because these players have already proven they can perform in the Premier League. It removes quite a big risk when spending large sums when a player has already shown they are capable of playing well in the Premier League. While say Mandzukic etc. may seem like a better player, there is a chance that they will fail to acclimatise to the English game and English culture outside of football.

[Guest]

Forster, Vlaar, Van Dijk, Jetro Willems to replace Shaw, Redmond, Tadic & Pelle. Say if they got all them, who they are linked with, how would you rate those replacements? Apparently Schneiderlin/Rodriguez going nowhere now.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

I feel for Southampton as they have become a victim of there own success and model.

If they wernt relegated a few years ago, who knows what would have happened with the likes of Walcott, Bale, Oxlade etc. They have got a quality youth system there and its probably kept them afloat during there absence from the Prem. They are actually now reaping more financial benefits now they are back in the Prem with there youth players and hopefully Koeman can bring some quality in and keep them competitive.

[Nakatomi Plaza]

Southampton have finally found their balls. Statements from the club now stating that Schneiderlin and Rodriquez are not for sale.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Transfer requests are probably being demanded. Saves them a couple million

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

"@SchneiderlinMo4: 6 years of an amazing journey #saintsfc DESTROYED in 1 hour !!!"

Eek

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Sounds like West Brom have signed Cristian Gamboa. Could actually be quite an exciting one that, and it could stop Andre Wisdom playing which is another bonus for them

[Fernando]

I enjoy how the Metro report crap They stole this from Kike Marin's twitter

El #Arsenal estaba muy interesado en Reus y creo que podría haber pagado los €35 millones de su cláusula, pero su lesión lo paró todo.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/30/marco-reus-was-set-for-arsenal-transfer-before-suffering-ankle-injury-in-june-4815087/

I think that is a touch optimistic somehow lets face injured players is Arsene's forte, Plus we have Shad now as our fitness coach so hopefully will get better.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Schneiderlin hands in transfer request.

Sam expects to sort Jenks in the next 24 hours

[Guest]

If Southampton get an offer of anywhere near £25m for Schneiderlin, they should be chauffeuring him to the buyer ASAP. He's nothing special at all in my opinion, just a solid midfielder. Of all the deals they've agreed too, this one should be top of the list, in terms of being a 'right decision'.

[compelling and rich]

schneiderlin for me will be another big spurs signing that does nothing when he goes there. i heard great things about sandro, capoue, lamela, paulinho and soldado and none have done anything great since going

[compelling and rich]

in fact spurs record signings is a who's who have transfer flops, only 2 in that list were/are a success in defoe and modric. keane wasnt a great successs after coming back from liverpool

Name From Fee Date
1 Argentina Erik Lamela Roma £30M 2013
2 Spain Roberto Soldado Valencia £26M 2013
3 Brazil Paulinho Corinthians £17M 2013
4 Croatia Luka Modric Dinamo Zagreb £16.5M 2008
5 England Darren Bent Charlton Athletic £16.5M 2007
6 Belgium Mousa Dembele Fulham £15M 2012
7 England Jermain Defoe Portsmouth £15M 2009
8 England David Bentley Blackburn Rovers £15M 2008
9 Russia Roman Pavlyuchenko Spartak Moscow £14M 2008
10 Republic of Ireland Robbie Keane Liverpool £12M 2009

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Dembeles not bad

[compelling and rich]

Dembeles not bad

i really liked him at one point, was gutted when he went spurs and not untied. since then he's only regressed for me. looks like a shadow of the player who originally signed

[NickisBHAFC]

Modric a flop? Are you insane

[GSC]

in fact spurs record signings is a who's who have transfer flops, only 2 in that list were/are a success in defoe and modric. keane wasnt a great successs after coming back from liverpool

[westisbest]

We're after Victor Moses. (season long loan)
I see our friends the baggies are keen to.
 
Failing that Scott Sinclair is a back up option.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Dembele would still make United's midfield to be fair. I actually think Sandro and Dembele have just been appalling mismanaged. But thats a Spurs speciality

[compelling and rich]

Dembele would still make United's midfield to be fair. I actually think Sandro and Dembele have just been appalling mismanaged. But thats a Spurs speciality

would have been interesting to see how dembele would have progressed under fergie if he came when he was strongly linked. lot of rumours he wanted to stay in london so stayed went spurs, if true more fool him

[GSC]

Lukaku to Everton apparently.

Thats a real coup

[MIG]

I'm hearing £25m or £28.5m. Either way I'm so pleased. Its about time we coughed up the money to take the next step. Apparently Henen is already training with us too and will be announced soon.
Barry, Besic, Lukaku, Henen, Barkley new contract. I need a lie down.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Atsu talking to Sunderland over a loan move

[Guest]

That keeps Everton in the mix. Although he had a poor WC, he's proven to be a 15+ goals man every season in the EPL. I still don't see where Everton have made the jump into that Top 4. They were playing out of their skins last year, still failed & Lukaku was already there. Besic & an inexperienced Henen won't make much impact & they've lost the pace of Deulofeu.

[MIG]

At 21 I think Lukaku still has the potential to move on to the next level. Not expecting massive things from Besic but with him, McCarthy, Gibson and Barry in the CM spots that really gives us some options. Henen I would expect to be able to fill the void of Deulefeu, yes he showed glimpses but his end product was far from complete.
More signings needed to push on I think but with Coleman, Baines and Barkley all tied down to long deals I'm pretty happy at the moment.

[JDizzle]

Besic is definitely one for the future. The obvious Barry replacement, and him and McCarthy could be a partnership for the nest 8 yearsor so. Good succession planning from Everton. Still think they need another CB, unless they plan on using Besic there as cover too?

[MIG]

If we use Besic as cover as well then we have Jagielka, Distin, Stones, Alcaraz, Duffy and Besic. I'd say while thats not setting the world alight its plenty of cover.

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