Golovkin only has himself to blame....

Strongback wrote:I think GGG would fight Canelo at 154.

You can breeze over my points but to say there is no substance in any of them is unadulterated partisanship towards GGG on your part.  Rose tinted myopia.

catchweight wrote:Wheres the logic behind all this Golovkin blame?

You want him to target big fights but when he does then its his fault they don't happen because he isn't ppv and hasn't earned them supposedly (lets not blame the big name for just not wanting to take him on).

Its all catch 22 stuff.

What do you think he has been doing? He couldn't walk into fights against big name opponents because they didn't want the fight. So he been trying in the meantime to build up his profile as much as he can by steadily becoming a decent ratings hit for HBO against the fighters he can get that are willing to face him.

He cant become an overnight ppv attraction without getting the big fights. All he can do is build interest in him steadily by putting on good shows against fighters that he can get in the ring with. Which is what he is doing. If Martinez hadn't opted freeze him out of a fight  Golovkin might already be there by now. But he avoided him like the plague.

What would you have Golovkin do differently? Throw over some tables and run around in his y fronts?

catchweight wrote:Wheres the logic behind all this Golovkin blame?

You want him to target big fights but when he does then its his fault they don't happen because he isn't ppv and hasn't earned them supposedly (lets not blame the big name for just not wanting to take him on).

GGG's is only making noise about certain winnable fights that will bring in a big pay day.

Fights Golovkin will take:

Cotto - He is nothing more than a blown up LWW/WW and he is big reward for low risk. This fight is never happening. This won't stop Golovkin crying nobody will fight him.

Canelo - at 154 or 160. Big reward but more competitive than Cotto.

Mayweather - willing to drop down to 154 when it suits just as he would to fight Canelo. Fights never happening though as he knows Mayweather has said he is not going to fight middleweights unless they are blown up fighters previously from lower weight classes.

Previously Martinez - why wasn't he fighting Sergio 2 or 3 years previously, GGG is 32 as we know. Sergio was always looking for a pay day before he retired.  Golovkin has a long way to go to replicate what Martinez achieved in his career. Sergio deserved a pay day as a former quality fighter. Of course Golovkin would have had no problem taking on an old man.

Chavez Jr - this was about a dispute between Arum and Chavez. Would have been a good step up for GGG.

Fights were there is no noise coming from Trip G

Ward - knows he wouldn't win.

Stephenson - who said he can drop down to SMW - not sure he'd fancy swapping power with this guy.

Carl Froch - Hearn has been quoted as saying it is a fight they would be interested in. Another big step up for Trip G.

George Groves - said on Ringside he would be happy to fight Golovkin.

Its all catch 22 stuff.

What do you think he has been doing? He couldn't walk into fights against big name opponents because they didn't want the fight. So he been trying in the meantime to build up his profile as much as he can by steadily becoming a decent ratings hit for HBO against the fighters he can get that are willing to face him.

Golovkin's people want low risk/ highs reward fights.  If they were willing to take on more risk at SMW they would get big fights.

Golovkin's team have been very good in putting out the perception that Golovkin cannot get a fight particularly at middleweight.  The fact he has said he will go down to LMW or fight certain opponents at SMW shows very clearly he is willing to jump weight only when it suits him.


He cant become an overnight ppv attraction without getting the big fights. All he can do is build interest in himV steadily by putting on good shows against fighters that he can get in the ring with. Which is what he is doing. If Martinez hadn't opted freeze him out of a fight  Golovkin might already be there by now. But he avoided him like the plague.

Martinez knew he was literally on his last legs and took the money fight with Cotto. Where was Golovkin three years previously? At the age of 29? Nowhere.   Thus far I have not seen Golovkin indicate he will take on the harder challenges that will bring his resume to the quality of Sergio's when the dust finally settles.

What would you have Golovkin do differently? Throw over some tables and run around in his y fronts?

Instead of taking soft fights like tonight how about taking a risk and just opening himself up to fighting everyone out there from LMW to SMW.  That's what the best have always done.  

I have no doubt Golovkin's team have indulged in some heavy spin doctoring. The greatest myth in boxing at the moment is nobody will fight Golovkin

Strongback wrote:

catchweight wrote:Wheres the logic behind all this Golovkin blame?

You want him to target big fights but when he does then its his fault they don't happen because he isn't ppv and hasn't earned them supposedly (lets not blame the big name for just not wanting to take him on).

GGG's is only making noise about certain winnable fights that will bring in a big pay day.

Fights Golovkin will take:

Cotto - He is nothing more than a blown up LWW/WW and he is big reward for low risk. This fight is never happening.  This won't stop Golovkin crying nobody will fight him.

Canelo - at 154 or 160. Big reward but more competitive than Cotto.

Mayweather - willing to drop down to 154 when it suits just as he would to fight Canelo. Fights never happening though as he knows Mayweather has said he is not going to fight middleweights unless they are blown up fighters previously from lower weight classes.

Previously Martinez - why wasn't he fighting Sergio 2 or 3 years previously, GGG is 32 as we know. Sergio was always looking for a pay day before he retired.  Golovkin has a long way to go to replicate what Martinez achieved in his career. Sergio deserved a pay day as a former quality fighter. Of course Golovkin would have had no problem taking on an old man.

Chavez Jr - this was about a dispute between Arum and Chavez. Would have been a good step up for GGG.

Fights were there is no noise coming from Trip G

Ward - knows he wouldn't win.

Stephenson - who said he can drop down to SMW - not sure he'd fancy swapping power with this guy.

Carl Froch - Hearn has been quoted as saying it is a fight they would be interested in. Another big step up for Trip G.

George Groves - said on Ringside he would be happy to fight Golovkin.

Its all catch 22 stuff.

What do you think he has been doing? He couldn't walk into fights against big name opponents because they didn't want the fight. So he been trying in the meantime to build up his profile as much as he can by steadily becoming a decent ratings hit for HBO against the fighters he can get that are willing to face him.

Golovkin's people want low risk/ highs reward fights.  If they were willing to take on more risk at SMW they would get big fights.

Golovkin's team have been very good in putting out the perception that Golovkin cannot get a fight particularly at middleweight.  The fact he has said he will go down to LMW or fight certain opponents at SMW shows very clearly he is willing to jump weight only when it suits him.


He cant become an overnight ppv attraction without getting the big fights. All he can do is build interest in himV steadily by putting on good shows against fighters that he can get in the ring with. Which is what he is doing. If Martinez hadn't opted freeze him out of a fight  Golovkin might already be there by now. But he avoided him like the plague.

Martinez knew he was literally on his last legs and took the money fight with Cotto. Where was Golovkin three years previously? At the age of 29? Nowhere.   Thus far I have not seen Golovkin indicate he will take on the harder challenges that will bring his resume to the quality of Sergio's when the dust finally settles.

What would you have Golovkin do differently? Throw over some tables and run around in his y fronts?

Instead of taking soft fights like tonight how about taking a risk and just opening himself up to fighting everyone out there from LMW to SMW.  That's what the best have always done.  

I have no doubt Golovkin's team have indulged in some heavy spin doctoring. The greatest myth in boxing at the moment is nobody will fight Golovkin

3fingers wrote:The ducking Stephenson bit made me chuckle.

hazharrison wrote:

Strongback wrote:

catchweight wrote:Wheres the logic behind all this Golovkin blame?

You want him to target big fights but when he does then its his fault they don't happen because he isn't ppv and hasn't earned them supposedly (lets not blame the big name for just not wanting to take him on).

GGG's is only making noise about certain winnable fights that will bring in a big pay day.

Fights Golovkin will take:

Cotto - He is nothing more than a blown up LWW/WW and he is big reward for low risk. This fight is never happening.  This won't stop Golovkin crying nobody will fight him.

Canelo - at 154 or 160. Big reward but more competitive than Cotto.

Mayweather - willing to drop down to 154 when it suits just as he would to fight Canelo. Fights never happening though as he knows Mayweather has said he is not going to fight middleweights unless they are blown up fighters previously from lower weight classes.

Previously Martinez - why wasn't he fighting Sergio 2 or 3 years previously, GGG is 32 as we know. Sergio was always looking for a pay day before he retired.  Golovkin has a long way to go to replicate what Martinez achieved in his career. Sergio deserved a pay day as a former quality fighter. Of course Golovkin would have had no problem taking on an old man.

Chavez Jr - this was about a dispute between Arum and Chavez. Would have been a good step up for GGG.

Fights were there is no noise coming from Trip G

Ward - knows he wouldn't win.

Stephenson - who said he can drop down to SMW - not sure he'd fancy swapping power with this guy.

Carl Froch - Hearn has been quoted as saying it is a fight they would be interested in. Another big step up for Trip G.

George Groves - said on Ringside he would be happy to fight Golovkin.

Its all catch 22 stuff.

What do you think he has been doing? He couldn't walk into fights against big name opponents because they didn't want the fight. So he been trying in the meantime to build up his profile as much as he can by steadily becoming a decent ratings hit for HBO against the fighters he can get that are willing to face him.

Golovkin's people want low risk/ highs reward fights.  If they were willing to take on more risk at SMW they would get big fights.

Golovkin's team have been very good in putting out the perception that Golovkin cannot get a fight particularly at middleweight.  The fact he has said he will go down to LMW or fight certain opponents at SMW shows very clearly he is willing to jump weight only when it suits him.


He cant become an overnight ppv attraction without getting the big fights. All he can do is build interest in himV steadily by putting on good shows against fighters that he can get in the ring with. Which is what he is doing. If Martinez hadn't opted freeze him out of a fight  Golovkin might already be there by now. But he avoided him like the plague.

Martinez knew he was literally on his last legs and took the money fight with Cotto. Where was Golovkin three years previously? At the age of 29? Nowhere.   Thus far I have not seen Golovkin indicate he will take on the harder challenges that will bring his resume to the quality of Sergio's when the dust finally settles.

What would you have Golovkin do differently? Throw over some tables and run around in his y fronts?

Instead of taking soft fights like tonight how about taking a risk and just opening himself up to fighting everyone out there from LMW to SMW.  That's what the best have always done.  

I have no doubt Golovkin's team have indulged in some heavy spin doctoring. The greatest myth in boxing at the moment is nobody will fight Golovkin

I haven't seen such comedic paranoia since Joe Wicks taped up his television. You claim Golovkin should be open to face any LMW.....just not the champion - Floyd - or the next highest ranked guy - Canelo. Who else is there that will raise his profile?

He shouldn't face Cotto - the middleweight king - or Chavez - the middleweight cash cow.

Geale turned a fight down previously. Chavez has turned him down. DiBella admitted that he didn't fancy putting Martinez in with him. Sturm ducked him. Kirkland. Barker is on record admitting Golovkin was too dangerous. Quillin's out of the game and after he tops Geale tonight, he'll have whupped the only two top ten middleweights that have gotten in with him.

You claim he's ducking super middleweights and light heavyweights - how can a fighter duck opponents in divisions they've never fought in?

Once he cleans house at 160 he'll likely move up. And then someone like you will say he's ducking Floyd or some other nonsense. I've read some dumb sh it on here but that's some of the dumbest outside of Trussman.

Geale's a soft fight? Guy's rated 6th best middleweight in the world.

3fingers wrote:The ducking Stephenson bit made me chuckle.

hazharrison wrote:

3fingers wrote:The ducking Stephenson bit made me chuckle.

I hear Ward's ducking Klitschko. Floyd, too.

Strongback wrote:

3fingers wrote:The ducking Stephenson bit made me chuckle.

I never said he ducked Stevenson.  Stevenson would represent a massive step up for GGG and would garner Golovkin great publicity and a good pay day.

You need to do a bit of reading about Stevenson before trying to come in from the sidelines having a snipe at me you dipsh!t runt.

3fingers wrote:

Strongback wrote:

3fingers wrote:The ducking Stephenson bit made me chuckle.

I never said he ducked Stevenson.  Stevenson would represent a massive step up for GGG and would garner Golovkin great publicity and a good pay day.

You need to do a bit of reading about Stevenson before trying to come in from the sidelines having a snipe at me you dipsh!t runt.

dipsh!t runt? hahaha, that's twice you've made me chuckle tonight. I like you Strongy.

3fingers wrote: I'm quite confident I can add to a debate in ways in which you are unable to. I guess that makes us equal.

Strongback wrote:

hazharrison wrote:

Strongback wrote:

catchweight wrote:Wheres the logic behind all this Golovkin blame?

You want him to target big fights but when he does then its his fault they don't happen because he isn't ppv and hasn't earned them supposedly (lets not blame the big name for just not wanting to take him on).

GGG's is only making noise about certain winnable fights that will bring in a big pay day.

Fights Golovkin will take:

Cotto - He is nothing more than a blown up LWW/WW and he is big reward for low risk. This fight is never happening.  This won't stop Golovkin crying nobody will fight him.

Canelo - at 154 or 160. Big reward but more competitive than Cotto.

Mayweather - willing to drop down to 154 when it suits just as he would to fight Canelo. Fights never happening though as he knows Mayweather has said he is not going to fight middleweights unless they are blown up fighters previously from lower weight classes.

Previously Martinez - why wasn't he fighting Sergio 2 or 3 years previously, GGG is 32 as we know. Sergio was always looking for a pay day before he retired.  Golovkin has a long way to go to replicate what Martinez achieved in his career. Sergio deserved a pay day as a former quality fighter. Of course Golovkin would have had no problem taking on an old man.

Chavez Jr - this was about a dispute between Arum and Chavez. Would have been a good step up for GGG.

Fights were there is no noise coming from Trip G

Ward - knows he wouldn't win.

Stephenson - who said he can drop down to SMW - not sure he'd fancy swapping power with this guy.

Carl Froch - Hearn has been quoted as saying it is a fight they would be interested in. Another big step up for Trip G.

George Groves - said on Ringside he would be happy to fight Golovkin.

Its all catch 22 stuff.

What do you think he has been doing? He couldn't walk into fights against big name opponents because they didn't want the fight. So he been trying in the meantime to build up his profile as much as he can by steadily becoming a decent ratings hit for HBO against the fighters he can get that are willing to face him.

Golovkin's people want low risk/ highs reward fights.  If they were willing to take on more risk at SMW they would get big fights.

Golovkin's team have been very good in putting out the perception that Golovkin cannot get a fight particularly at middleweight.  The fact he has said he will go down to LMW or fight certain opponents at SMW shows very clearly he is willing to jump weight only when it suits him.


He cant become an overnight ppv attraction without getting the big fights. All he can do is build interest in himV steadily by putting on good shows against fighters that he can get in the ring with. Which is what he is doing. If Martinez hadn't opted freeze him out of a fight  Golovkin might already be there by now. But he avoided him like the plague.

Martinez knew he was literally on his last legs and took the money fight with Cotto. Where was Golovkin three years previously? At the age of 29? Nowhere.   Thus far I have not seen Golovkin indicate he will take on the harder challenges that will bring his resume to the quality of Sergio's when the dust finally settles.

What would you have Golovkin do differently? Throw over some tables and run around in his y fronts?

Instead of taking soft fights like tonight how about taking a risk and just opening himself up to fighting everyone out there from LMW to SMW.  That's what the best have always done.  

I have no doubt Golovkin's team have indulged in some heavy spin doctoring. The greatest myth in boxing at the moment is nobody will fight Golovkin

I haven't seen such comedic paranoia since Joe Wicks taped up his television. You claim Golovkin should be open to face any LMW.....just not the champion - Floyd - or the next highest ranked guy - Canelo. Who else is there that will raise his profile?

He shouldn't face Cotto - the middleweight king - or Chavez - the middleweight cash cow.

Geale turned a fight down previously. Chavez has turned him down. DiBella admitted that he didn't fancy putting Martinez in with him. Sturm ducked him. Kirkland. Barker is on record admitting Golovkin was too dangerous. Quillin's out of the game and after he tops Geale tonight, he'll have whupped the only two top ten middleweights that have gotten in with him.

You claim he's ducking super middleweights and light heavyweights - how can a fighter duck opponents in divisions they've never fought in?

Once he cleans house at 160 he'll likely move up. And then someone like you will say he's ducking Floyd or some other nonsense. I've read some dumb sh it on here but that's some of the dumbest outside of Trussman.

Geale's a soft fight? Guy's rated 6th best middleweight in the world.

Geale was beaten by Barker.  Can you at least be  realistic.  It seems when you have a hard-on for a fighter you become unreasonable.  You mentioned Joe Wicks I'll compare you to Mr Magoo.

Roger Mayweather has said they will not Golovkin as Floyd is too small for a full on middleweight.  Mayweather walks around in and around the welterweight limit. This fight is not going to happen so what does GGG do? He starts calling out Mayweather as a cheap publicity stunt. Same sh!t different week when it comes to Trip G.

I'm sure Canelo will fight Golovkin when he has the big money Cotto fight out of the way. Simple transparent business.

As I have said Cotto is no middleweight as you well know.  He happens to hold the MW title because he lucked out when it became clear in the fight that Martinez was crippled.  The first half decent middleweight Cotto fights he will be beaten.  The money fight is Cotto v Canelo and a smaller player like GGG is just going to have to wait in line.  You seem to forget why big fights don't happen when it comes to your favourite fighters.

Chavez did not turn GGG down. Chavez is trying to leave Arum so Arum offers him $2M for the fight.  If Chavez wants more money he has to sign an extension for two additional fights to be promoted by Arum.  This is were the fight stalled.  This has been well reported.

In the world of top PPV, which GGG wants to enter, he's not going to make any impression fighting Barker, Strum, Kirkland or indeed Geale. He just has to wait to fight the winner of Cotto v Canelo or go to SMW.  

Also if you read what I wrote I didn't suggest GGG fight at LHW what I wrote is Stevenson has said he can still make SMW. He is a career SMW and a small LHW.

You are quite aware of the points I am making and the business of boxing.  You are just choosing to look at boxing in a very naive way as it suits your agenda and deep admiration for Golovkin.

kingraf wrote:GGG-Alvarez is probably the most likely fight out there for him. It could also be a genuinely good fight. I think Cotto-Alvarez would happen first, but after that, I think Alvarez unifies the division. If Alvarez beats Cotto, I think Golovkin-Alvarez will do massive numbers. Mexico's favourite son, vs a pocket-sized Ivan Drago, the fight sells itself. If Cotto beats Alvarez, well, Martinez probably gets a rematch next June.  

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:People need to get a grip.

GGG is greatly overrated I said so after knee high to a baby grass hopper Stevens gave him kittens all night in their fight.

BTW don't rule Stevens out he can come back and at if GGG held a strap should have got a rematch.

hazharrison wrote:

Strongback wrote:

hazharrison wrote:

Strongback wrote:

catchweight wrote:Wheres the logic behind all this Golovkin blame?

You want him to target big fights but when he does then its his fault they don't happen because he isn't ppv and hasn't earned them supposedly (lets not blame the big name for just not wanting to take him on).

GGG's is only making noise about certain winnable fights that will bring in a big pay day.

Fights Golovkin will take:

Cotto - He is nothing more than a blown up LWW/WW and he is big reward for low risk. This fight is never happening.  This won't stop Golovkin crying nobody will fight him.

Canelo - at 154 or 160. Big reward but more competitive than Cotto.

Mayweather - willing to drop down to 154 when it suits just as he would to fight Canelo. Fights never happening though as he knows Mayweather has said he is not going to fight middleweights unless they are blown up fighters previously from lower weight classes.

Previously Martinez - why wasn't he fighting Sergio 2 or 3 years previously, GGG is 32 as we know. Sergio was always looking for a pay day before he retired.  Golovkin has a long way to go to replicate what Martinez achieved in his career. Sergio deserved a pay day as a former quality fighter. Of course Golovkin would have had no problem taking on an old man.

Chavez Jr - this was about a dispute between Arum and Chavez. Would have been a good step up for GGG.

Fights were there is no noise coming from Trip G

Ward - knows he wouldn't win.

Stephenson - who said he can drop down to SMW - not sure he'd fancy swapping power with this guy.

Carl Froch - Hearn has been quoted as saying it is a fight they would be interested in. Another big step up for Trip G.

George Groves - said on Ringside he would be happy to fight Golovkin.

Its all catch 22 stuff.

What do you think he has been doing? He couldn't walk into fights against big name opponents because they didn't want the fight. So he been trying in the meantime to build up his profile as much as he can by steadily becoming a decent ratings hit for HBO against the fighters he can get that are willing to face him.

Golovkin's people want low risk/ highs reward fights.  If they were willing to take on more risk at SMW they would get big fights.

Golovkin's team have been very good in putting out the perception that Golovkin cannot get a fight particularly at middleweight.  The fact he has said he will go down to LMW or fight certain opponents at SMW shows very clearly he is willing to jump weight only when it suits him.


He cant become an overnight ppv attraction without getting the big fights. All he can do is build interest in himV steadily by putting on good shows against fighters that he can get in the ring with. Which is what he is doing. If Martinez hadn't opted freeze him out of a fight  Golovkin might already be there by now. But he avoided him like the plague.

Martinez knew he was literally on his last legs and took the money fight with Cotto. Where was Golovkin three years previously? At the age of 29? Nowhere.   Thus far I have not seen Golovkin indicate he will take on the harder challenges that will bring his resume to the quality of Sergio's when the dust finally settles.

What would you have Golovkin do differently? Throw over some tables and run around in his y fronts?

Instead of taking soft fights like tonight how about taking a risk and just opening himself up to fighting everyone out there from LMW to SMW.  That's what the best have always done.  

I have no doubt Golovkin's team have indulged in some heavy spin doctoring. The greatest myth in boxing at the moment is nobody will fight Golovkin

I haven't seen such comedic paranoia since Joe Wicks taped up his television. You claim Golovkin should be open to face any LMW.....just not the champion - Floyd - or the next highest ranked guy - Canelo. Who else is there that will raise his profile?

He shouldn't face Cotto - the middleweight king - or Chavez - the middleweight cash cow.

Geale turned a fight down previously. Chavez has turned him down. DiBella admitted that he didn't fancy putting Martinez in with him. Sturm ducked him. Kirkland. Barker is on record admitting Golovkin was too dangerous. Quillin's out of the game and after he tops Geale tonight, he'll have whupped the only two top ten middleweights that have gotten in with him.

You claim he's ducking super middleweights and light heavyweights - how can a fighter duck opponents in divisions they've never fought in?

Once he cleans house at 160 he'll likely move up. And then someone like you will say he's ducking Floyd or some other nonsense. I've read some dumb sh it on here but that's some of the dumbest outside of Trussman.

Geale's a soft fight? Guy's rated 6th best middleweight in the world.

Geale was beaten by Barker.  Can you at least be  realistic.  It seems when you have a hard-on for a fighter you become unreasonable.  You mentioned Joe Wicks I'll compare you to Mr Magoo.

Roger Mayweather has said they will not Golovkin as Floyd is too small for a full on middleweight.  Mayweather walks around in and around the welterweight limit. This fight is not going to happen so what does GGG do? He starts calling out Mayweather as a cheap publicity stunt. Same sh!t different week when it comes to Trip G.

I'm sure Canelo will fight Golovkin when he has the big money Cotto fight out of the way. Simple transparent business.

As I have said Cotto is no middleweight as you well know.  He happens to hold the MW title because he lucked out when it became clear in the fight that Martinez was crippled.  The first half decent middleweight Cotto fights he will be beaten.  The money fight is Cotto v Canelo and a smaller player like GGG is just going to have to wait in line.  You seem to forget why big fights don't happen when it comes to your favourite fighters.

Chavez did not turn GGG down. Chavez is trying to leave Arum so Arum offers him $2M for the fight.  If Chavez wants more money he has to sign an extension for two additional fights to be promoted by Arum.  This is were the fight stalled.  This has been well reported.

In the world of top PPV, which GGG wants to enter, he's not going to make any impression fighting Barker, Strum, Kirkland or indeed Geale. He just has to wait to fight the winner of Cotto v Canelo or go to SMW.  

Also if you read what I wrote I didn't suggest GGG fight at LHW what I wrote is Stevenson has said he can still make SMW. He is a career SMW and a small LHW.

You are quite aware of the points I am making and the business of boxing.  You are just choosing to look at boxing in a very naive way as it suits your agenda and deep admiration for Golovkin.

Golovkin is a middleweight who was willing to drop to 154 to make a fight Boxing News described as the best match-up in boxing. He wasn't offering to fight a lighter guy with no chance - Mayweather would likely start favourite.

Golovkin has been fighting on HBO for around two years. He's made incredible progress in that time for a non-US fighter who speaks little English.

Alvarez was featured around 2010 and took three years to land a marquee opponent.

HBO quoted Froch last night: "Swerve Golovkin like the plague...punches like a mule...don't need to be in with him". That doesn't bode well for Golovkin's chances of a fight with him.

Right now there are four options open to GGG for his next fight in October: Cotto, Canelo, Chavez or Soliman. The first three are PPV fights. The latter more likely.

Adonis Stevenson - like Quillin -doesn't fight on HBO (hence the fact the Kovalev fight hit the skids).

Who does that leave if Golovkin is ducking someone? Ward? Ward is in the garage until he sorts out his promotional dispute.

I'm running out of straws for you to clutch here.

Golovkin is the real deal - a potential great in a sport that doesn't produce them with the regularity it once did.

3fingers wrote:He should fight rubio. That would generate money, I guess