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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 20 Sep 2014, 2:33 pm

First topic message reminder :

Yeah that definitely has a point and relevance. It shows how ludicrous a comment that is.

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Post by The Special Juan Sat 18 Oct 2014, 10:56 pm

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Dolphin Ziggler wrote:This Mason lad has been good when i've watched him.  

Aguero is just the best striker in the league by a distance when hes fit and on it.

He'd be scoring Messi/Ronaldo levels of goals without the injuries.

In the Spanish League?
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Post by Ent Sat 18 Oct 2014, 10:59 pm

God man city have some plain average players.

Sagna is a joker.

Di michaelis (spelling?) what else do you need to say.

This guy fernando is a donkey too.

They need to get a decent manager then they will win everything.

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Post by Ent Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:00 pm

For that fourth goal the referee has let the free kick be taken 5 yards from where the foul was committed.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:01 pm

Ent wrote:
Olly wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:This Mason lad has been good when i've watched him.  

Aguero is just the best striker in the league by a distance when hes fit and on it.

He'd be scoring Messi/Ronaldo levels of goals without the injuries.

40-50 a season?

Behave.


Well he scored 28 from 34 games last season in all comps (so he's missed what 20-25 games there). 

If he was fit for a season he'd hit those marks easy.
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Post by Ent Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:07 pm

Filled his boots in the cup last year.

Great player - world class.

But 40-50+ a season for 5 years plus in a row (ronaldo and messi), no way.

People forget Ronaldo and messi are bordering on superhuman as they co-exist.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:13 pm

Chelsea v palace ... Serious intensity today.Hard tackles all over the place.


But decent enough performance from the eagles.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:13 pm

And zaha creates the goal. That's what we remember.....

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:15 pm

Ent wrote:Filled his boots in the cup last year.

Great player - world class.

But 40-50+ a season for 5 years plus in a row (ronaldo and messi), no way.

People forget Ronaldo and messi are bordering on superhuman as they co-exist.
He won't do that simply because of his injury record, but if he does stay fit for a whole season he'd score 40 goals easy imo. He might be the best of the rest after them two (strikers wise)
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Post by Ent Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:16 pm

Warnock spewing Poopie as usual.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:17 pm

Suraez is up there with them. Can't wait to see him back. But those 4 are for me undisputed . just above zlatan and bale.

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Post by Ent Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:18 pm

Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:Filled his boots in the cup last year.

Great player - world class.

But 40-50+ a season for 5 years plus in a row (ronaldo and messi), no way.

People forget Ronaldo and messi are bordering on superhuman as they co-exist.
He won't do that simply because of his injury record, but if he does stay fit for a whole season he'd score 40 goals easy imo. He might be the best of the rest after them two (strikers wise)

Fitness is part of it, playing 50+ games a season at the level of Ronaldo and messi takes something else in terms of conditioning and mentality.

I'm sure they could bag 20-30 a season playing 40 games every game at 100%.

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Post by Ent Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:19 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Suraez is  up there with them. Can't wait to see him back. But those 4 are for me undisputed . just above zlatan and bale.

Suarez beat of the rest.

Ronaldo and messi in a universe of their own- claims to top 3 ever the both of them.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:20 pm

Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:
Olly wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:This Mason lad has been good when i've watched him.  

Aguero is just the best striker in the league by a distance when hes fit and on it.

He'd be scoring Messi/Ronaldo levels of goals without the injuries.

40-50 a season?

Behave.


Well he scored 28 from 34 games last season in all comps (so he's missed what 20-25 games there). 

If he was fit for a season he'd hit those marks easy.

He missed 15 games in the league of which he wouldn't be starting all of them anyway aside from that he didn't miss any FA cup or European games so I think you could realistically expect him to get 35-40 goals.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:22 pm

Ent wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Suraez is  up there with them. Can't wait to see him back. But those 4 are for me undisputed . just above zlatan and bale.

Suarez beat of the rest.

Ronaldo and messi in a universe of their own- claims to top 3 ever the both of them.

Never going to happen, where was Messi in the world cup final?

Pele, Maradona and Zidane didn't go missing in the biggest games of their career.

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Post by Ent Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:22 pm

Flamini is just terrible. As for the whole arsenal side - play to the whistle.

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Post by Ent Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:24 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Ent wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Suraez is  up there with them. Can't wait to see him back. But those 4 are for me undisputed . just above zlatan and bale.

Suarez beat of the rest.

Ronaldo and messi in a universe of their own- claims to top 3 ever the both of them.

Never going to happen, where was Messi in the world cup final?

Pele, Maradona and Zidane didn't go missing in the biggest games of their career.

Zidane got sent off.

Can't argue with what messi and Ronaldo have done, those 3 can fight for 3rd place.

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Post by Guest Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:25 pm

Ent wrote:Flamini is just terrible. As for the whole arsenal side - play to the whistle.

So what you're saying is that the whole Arsenal side/squad is pants. We get it Ent but do you think they'll stay up?

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Post by Guest Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:26 pm

Ent wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Ent wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Suraez is  up there with them. Can't wait to see him back. But those 4 are for me undisputed . just above zlatan and bale.

Suarez beat of the rest.

Ronaldo and messi in a universe of their own- claims to top 3 ever the both of them.

Never going to happen, where was Messi in the world cup final?

Pele, Maradona and Zidane didn't go missing in the biggest games of their career.

Zidane got sent off.

Can't argue with what messi and Ronaldo have done, those 3 can fight for 3rd place.

In the 2nd round, not the final.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:26 pm

He scored twice and drove the French to the world cup in their own backyard Ent that's what he did in the biggest game of his career.

You can argue with what they've done when they can't hold a candle to the truly great players on the international stage.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:28 pm

Mertesacker shocking again.



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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:30 pm

IRONS IRONS IRONS

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Post by Ent Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:31 pm

Stamped on a boy in the last 16 and watched his team get to the final.

Who cares what he did against a shell shocked brazil side after the Ronaldo fiasco.

Honestly zidane as great as he was has carved a huge myth for himself.

1 cl in a career, countless red cards in crucial games - including the biggest of his career.

Not fit to lace messi or ronaldos boots In my eyes.

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Post by Guest Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:31 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:IRONS IRONS IRONS

Just the one here, Dolph. Steamline Morphy Richards. 3 years old and still producing the goods.

You?

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:34 pm

Watching west ham v Burnley is doing my head in. I keep thinking Burnley are west ham....

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:36 pm

How do you work out any game of his career was bigger than playing in a world cup in his own country?

The Champions league was far stronger at the turn of the century, you know when the Italians were still half decent.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:39 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:IRONS IRONS IRONS

Just the one here, Dolph. Steamline Morphy Richards. 3 years old and still producing the goods.

You?

Good iron that, I won't even get involved when the competition is that strong

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Post by Ent Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:43 pm

Why'd he not win either of those 2 finals he started with juventus then...

98 missed quarter and semi suspended, grabs 2 from set pieces after the Ronaldo scandal- anyone would have beaten brazil that day.

2006, he is the only recognised penalty taker left on the fid and he head butts and opponent.

hreat player, beat in the world in 2001, no idea why anyone thinks he is anywhere near the pantheon of greats because of 2 corners against a side who thought the actual best player in the world had a seizure and nearly died less than 24 hours before.

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Post by Ent Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:47 pm

Again a referee has let a freekick be taken 5 yards from the foil.

Twice it has led to goals this weekend. There is no discretion here. Do they not know the rules.

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Post by Ent Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:52 pm

Miss of the season?

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 18 Oct 2014, 11:54 pm

Newcastle should be safe IMO.

As a palace fan I am again confident.

Sunderland, QPR, Leicester and villa look shocking.. If it wasn't for how bad they look I would be worried. The palace boys may not be the highest quality but they have serious fight in them..

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 19 Oct 2014, 12:00 am

Bit harsh on Leicester

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Post by Ent Sun 19 Oct 2014, 12:09 am

That's the first time Newcastle have been ahead this season.

Still be worried if I was them.

Burnley are gone. As are qpr barring a miracle.

Last place up for grans depending on who has the word run of form.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 19 Oct 2014, 12:24 am

Yeah Burnley are a banker to go down....... Unless


pullis gets an offer he can't refuse mid November.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:16 am

I could see QPR throwing money at Pulis. He'd finally get a club not scared of spending, but I don't see the spark in QPR needed to stay up. If Burnley got on a run they could threaten some teams, but QPR lack pace and don't defend at all well.

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Post by socal1976 Sun 19 Oct 2014, 6:42 am

Duty281 wrote:How much added time did you want, Socal?

Six and a half minutes were added on in the second half. And the keeper's injury delayed the game for just two minutes in the first half. Added to other injuries, that seems perfectly fair to me.

The way Hull was carrying on it should have 8 minutes plus maybe more. Dawson alone went down three times in the second half surprisingly all these "injuries" lol occurred after Hull went up and besides the goal keeper they all returned instantly to the field of play. El Mohammadi in particular was hilarious. The replay showed that Cazorla made no contact whatsoever, Mohammadi jumped in the air like his legs were bulldozed by and started rolling around. Again the ref blew the play dead and carded Cazorla. If there mommies were reffing the match we wouldn't have this many injury time outs. Disgraceful cheating by hull aided by and incompetent official. How many times have we seen play continue with a player down, sometimes even his own team. Every single fake injury by hull bought them one or two minutes of down time. The referee was a disgrace he should have stopped buying it and stopping play. If they want to play act and writhe on the floor hobble off and then sprint back on the field over and over and over again the ref should stop buying it. Duty so the goalie is injured for two and half minutes alone, are you telling me there was only 30 seconds of stoppage in the rest of the half? Not only will you never make a living as photo model you mathematical skills are disgrace to the country of Newton.

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Post by socal1976 Sun 19 Oct 2014, 6:45 am

mystiroakey wrote:Mertesacker shocking again.



we are paying dearly for Arsene's terrible decision not to buy some cover in the back. Mertesacker has been awful this season and at his age he may very well be passed his best. That leaves us with one good often injured CB. I am a supporter of Arsene's but after the money he splashed on his attack to not bring in a defender or two is shocking.

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Post by westisbest Sun 19 Oct 2014, 8:25 am

Have to beat QPR next.

After them have Spurs h, never do well against them
West Ham a, they have picked up.
Saints h, doing very well.
Burnley a, must win.

Tricky november ahead.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 19 Oct 2014, 10:55 am

socal1976 wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Mertesacker shocking again.



we are paying dearly for Arsene's terrible decision not to buy some cover in the back. Mertesacker has been awful this season and at his age he may very well be passed his best. That leaves us with one good often injured CB. I am a supporter of Arsene's but after the money he splashed on his attack to not bring in a defender or two is shocking.

he brought in chambers- but yep Arsene should have done more.

mertesaker just hasnt got the match fitness to hold a position in front of the front men- the two goals you leaked today were league 1 level.


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Post by mystiroakey Sun 19 Oct 2014, 10:55 am

yesterday ^^

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 19 Oct 2014, 11:43 am

Poyet still proving he is the best manager in the world.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 19 Oct 2014, 11:47 am

Guessing that ref who did the citeh game will be demoted? How can he justify his performance?

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Post by Stella Sun 19 Oct 2014, 11:53 am

NickisBHAFC wrote:Guessing that ref who did the citeh game will be demoted? How can he justify his performance?

Two bad decisions?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 19 Oct 2014, 12:50 pm

Liverpool to smash QPR today, 3-0
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:02 pm

4-0. Isn't that how they normally lose away from home?
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Post by Fernando Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:03 pm

Would help if they weren't playing at Loftus Road then Juan angel

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Post by Guest Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:03 pm

They're at home Juan.

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Post by Fernando Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:04 pm

QPR starting XI: McCarthy, Isla, Onuoha, Dunne, Caulker, Suk-Young, Henry, Fer, Sandro, Austin, Zamora.

Liverpool: Mignolet, Johnson, Skrtel, Lovren, Enrique, Gerrard, Can, Sterling, Henderson, Lallana, Balotelli.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:16 pm

Oh Laugh Don't I feel like a boob.
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Post by Duty281 Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:19 pm

socal1976 wrote:
Duty281 wrote:How much added time did you want, Socal?

Six and a half minutes were added on in the second half. And the keeper's injury delayed the game for just two minutes in the first half. Added to other injuries, that seems perfectly fair to me.

The way Hull was carrying on it should have 8 minutes plus maybe more. Dawson alone went down three times in the second half surprisingly all these "injuries" lol occurred after Hull went up and besides the goal keeper they all returned instantly to the field of play. El Mohammadi in particular was hilarious. The replay showed that Cazorla made no contact whatsoever, Mohammadi jumped in the air like his legs were bulldozed by and started rolling around. Again the ref blew the play dead and carded Cazorla. If there mommies were reffing the match we wouldn't have this many injury time outs. Disgraceful cheating by hull aided by and incompetent official. How many times have we seen play continue with a player down, sometimes even his own team. Every single fake injury by hull bought them one or two minutes of down time. The referee was a disgrace he should have stopped buying it and stopping play. If they want to play act and writhe on the floor hobble off and then sprint back on the field over and over and over again the ref should stop buying it. Duty so the goalie is injured for two and half minutes alone, are you telling me there was only 30 seconds of stoppage in the rest of the half? Not only will you never make a living as photo model you mathematical skills are disgrace to the country of Newton.

Well I have been paid before for modelling; never on the topic of mathematics though. Let us give it a go:

Hull's injury to their keeper delayed the game for 1:47 minutes. There were 3:15 minutes of added time in the first half. 

Seems good to me.

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If Balotelli doesn't score today questions will surely be asked.
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