Euro Division Homepage LXXIX

by Marky Tue 23 Sep 2014, 2:50 pm

First topic message reminder :

Welcome to the Nadal Semi League

Schedule
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Transfer Confirmation Page
Injuries
Players in the League
Rumor Mill
Rules Page
Prediction

Teams
Genk
US Palermo
PAOK
HSC MONTPELLIER
Getafe CF
Hellas Verona
Granada C(ricket)F(an)
FC Giroud In BoredHoes
FC I thought she was Twente
SV Werder Bremen
FC Basel 1893

Transfers are now open.
Next Tactics due Monday 6th October, to be sent to Cherries. Sodhat to vote by Friday the 3rd October.

Week 4:

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by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:48 pm

Matas been disappointing for over a year now.

by Fernando Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:53 pm

Koba wrote:Where do I go if I want to leave some feedback or improvement for the website. I've just though of an amazing idea.

https://www.606v2.com/t1330p300-feedback#2777978

by Marky Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:57 pm

Cue everyone refreshing the feedback thread

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 2:59 pm

Ultimately United added to a logjam up front by adding Falcao when they already needed to pick 2 from 3. Theres no point playing Mata if he isn't playing in the hole as he doesn't get into the game.

by FIFA Diva Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:00 pm

Marky wrote:Thoughts on the supposed Mata to Roma = Strootman to Man U deal?

Would Mata want to move to Roma? I'd rather we sold Rooney than Mata, Mata is a proper player who is better in the hole then Rooney. Have you seen Rooneys touch it's awful, he can't play the tight, intricate passing you need in that role, Rooney is better deeper spraying the ball 50 yards. I like Strootman I wanted him when we signed Fellaini but not if it means losing Mata. No offense to Strootman but it's harder to replace players like Mata, players like Strootman are dime a dozen, any one can be taught how to run but not everyone can play like Mata.

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:04 pm

Quite a few players can play better than Mata on current form.

The Mata that stood out 2 years ago has only been seen in fleeting glimpses since.

by FIFA Diva Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:08 pm

Cheers Nando.

Mata has been our best player since he joined, agreed he needs to be played through the middle if we want to see the best of him. Disagree that there's quite a few better, it's not his fault he has Poopie behind him and Poopie infront of him (last season) he creates chances and I'd day it's down to the other players last season not being on the same wavelength as him.

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:11 pm

Matas just too hipster for the rest of the team.

Hes a luxury player, he needs carried. Thats why Mourinho canned him almost immediately. United aren't good enough to carry him.

by FIFA Diva Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:15 pm

GSC wrote:Matas just too hipster for the rest of the team.

Hes a luxury player, he needs carried. Thats why Mourinho canned him almost immediately. United aren't good enough to carry him.

I agree with your last point, we are not good enough to carry him but saying that a player of that quality should be excused to an extent but obviously we need to improve defensively for that to happen. Who's Mourinho I hate him with a passion, what did Chelsea achieve by selling Mata nothing and what did Oscar do in the am role? Nothing at all, Mourinho is a germ that needs to be destroyed he can't handle sexy creative players he needs machines. Hazard would have been top 5 players in the world if he wasn't managed by Mourinho.

by Marky Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:17 pm

Joe Cole was ruined by Mourinho in his first reign.

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:19 pm

Ozil played 103 league games in 3 years under Mourinho.

Fabregas was signed to be the centrepiece to his new Chelsea side.

Not sure I buy that.

by FIFA Diva Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:24 pm

Ozil was already a good player before Mourinho and it's not hard when you've got the second best player of all time in Ronaldo in your side and Di Maria, Benzema etc.

Fabregas already an established player, Robben, Duff, Hazard, Cole, Kalou, that's on the top of my head. Mourinho ruins players and they don't reach the potential they should have. Robben should have joined United

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:26 pm

Eden Hazard who had his best season under Mourinho last year?

by sodhat Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:30 pm

Mourinho certainly reigns flambouyance in and makes players more rigid.

Andre Schurrle is his wet dream.

by FIFA Diva Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:31 pm

Yep the same Hazard who would have been nominated for the balon d'or if Mourinho didn't manage him. There's no doubt that Hazard would become a top player during his days at Lille but the truth is Mourinho is not the best at handling flair players and likes he'd players to react and act like machines/robots. Hazard would be a lot better if he was managed by Sir Alex, Pep, Ancelotti etc.

I for one will not be sucked into Mourinho charm, the man is the devil hiding behind a mask, I'll not get suckered into his fake persona you of all people should know he was a poor man's Clough. Mourinho has done more bad for football than good, I'll never rate him as high as some do. Good manager but a destroyer of everything good.

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:31 pm

I won't argue Mourinho favors substance over style, but I don't buy creative players can't flourish under him.

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:32 pm

So Eden Hazard > Paul Scholes

I really couldn't resist

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:34 pm

And everyones a poor mans Clough Whistle

by FIFA Diva Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:36 pm

GSC wrote:So Eden Hazard > Paul Scholes

I really couldn't resist

You're 22 right? Still a pup, I don't blame you for not being old enough to watch Paul Scholes, he retired back in 2013 probably before your time.

by FIFA Diva Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:37 pm

GSC wrote:And everyones a poor mans Clough

Unless they're managing at Leeds United.

by sodhat Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:37 pm

Brian Clough may well get a bit too much praise for his style of management. Don't get me wrong, I was a big fan. But he's not the best manager ever for me.

In terms of achievements he's not up there with the greatest winners. In terms of transcending his role and being important then he is up there.

by FIFA Diva Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:48 pm

sodhat wrote:Brian Clough may well get a bit too much praise for his style of management. Don't get me wrong, I was a big fan. But he's not the best manager ever for me.

In terms of achievements he's not up there with the greatest winners. In terms of transcending his role and being important then he is up there.

How many of the so called titles did he legitimately win, he'll always have a History of corruption. I don't rate him as someone like GSC may do.

by FIFA Diva Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:50 pm

I loved Bobby Robson, everybody loved Bobby Robson. Robson was the type that he could say anything and you wouldn't get annoyed at him and you know very well that he kept a packet of Worthers Originals in his pocket.

by sodhat Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:50 pm

I think he legitimately won his titles, I just don't think he's won enough of them to be the greatest ever.

He did like a bung apparently. But then if I was a manager back then I probably would have too.

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:51 pm

How many other managers have taken multiple teams from the lower division to league champions, and one of them to 2 european cups.

I'll wait.

by FIFA Diva Thu 25 Sep 2014, 3:57 pm

If he accepted bribes, I'm sure he offered them to rival managers especially in Europe. The world back then was a mess, 90% of Europe was in turmoil.

Clough "Erm Mr Malmo manager here's £500 please lose to us but make it look convincing"
Malmo gaffer "ja sure Mr Clough we need the moolah"

The end

by sodhat Thu 25 Sep 2014, 4:04 pm

GSC wrote:How many other managers have taken multiple teams from the lower division to league champions, and one of them to 2 european cups.

I'll wait.

I'm not saying he's not a great manager, I'm saying he's not the greatest manager. His achievements are remarkable but there is a big patch of time where he wasn't winning trophies. His character marked him out more than his contemporaries.

And I'll say Bill Shankly did the same for Liverpool (and would have won the European Cup if he didn't retire way early like).

by Fernando Thu 25 Sep 2014, 4:09 pm

Jose Mourinho = Brian Clough Jr
Jose's Jack = Brian's Green Jumper

Both fond of spending big money and breaking transfer records. Both tactically very good and done it at smaller sides.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 25 Sep 2014, 4:09 pm

sodhat wrote:My car squeaks, and it stinks of ethanol if you stop with the engine running. It's made it this far though. It must be the last car in the world to be made with a cassette player and not a CD player.

I tend to pass more at the moment. I'm hitting short and intermediate routes mainly over the middle to my slot guys or the tight end. I run to eat clock and pick up short yardage.
Defense has gotten much better on 15 though, more turnovers this time. Khalil Mack is a beast at 97 OVR in season 2.

My car has cassette to!! #hipstercarowners

I feel the difficulty has been addressed well, it's now harder but the actual gameplay is worse than last year's imo

Very clunky

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 25 Sep 2014, 4:13 pm

It's pretty clear Clough relied on Taylor a fair bit too, whereas a great manager like fergie had multiple assistants and had success

by sodhat Thu 25 Sep 2014, 4:14 pm

Olly wrote:
sodhat wrote:My car squeaks, and it stinks of ethanol if you stop with the engine running. It's made it this far though. It must be the last car in the world to be made with a cassette player and not a CD player.

I tend to pass more at the moment. I'm hitting short and intermediate routes mainly over the middle to my slot guys or the tight end. I run to eat clock and pick up short yardage.
Defense has gotten much better on 15 though, more turnovers this time. Khalil Mack is a beast at 97 OVR in season 2.

My car has cassette to!! #hipstercarowners

I feel the difficulty has been addressed well, it's now harder but the actual gameplay is worse than last year's imo

Very clunky

I'm the opposite, I think the gameplay has been improved a bit from last year. I think in fact the difficulty has gone down! I usually have a couple of seasons on all-pro before going to all-madden but this year I needed barely any time.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 25 Sep 2014, 4:16 pm

Well you are a weirdo so it's too be expected

Anybody here got a ps3?

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 4:47 pm

Why are sky replicating their football pre match thing with the starting lineup where the players turn around to face the camera for golf.

The most cringeworthy thing ever.

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 4:51 pm

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Golfers in turtlenecks doing the arms crossed pose doesn't work.

The US duo look a right pair though.

by **Afro** Thu 25 Sep 2014, 5:50 pm

Can't wait for the first tee off tomorrow!!!

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 6:33 pm

I'm not really fussed. It all seems a bit forced for golf.

by **Afro** Thu 25 Sep 2014, 6:45 pm

I don't play golf, I don't really watch it apart from a little bit of the majors and then if I miss it, I'm not fussed.

But i would watch every second of the Ryder cup if I could. It's golf with bells on it.

One of the best sporting events on the calendar for me.

by **Afro** Thu 25 Sep 2014, 6:47 pm

Anyway, is Olly still managing PAOK? Whistle

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 6:49 pm

Hes on his final warning. I'd consider 3 missed tactics in a row as reasonable grounds for me to find a replacement (probably not hard in this case)

by The Special Juan Thu 25 Sep 2014, 6:50 pm

Afro wrote:Anyway, is Olly still managing PAOK?

God you're not wanting back already are you?

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 6:51 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
Afro wrote:Anyway, is Olly still managing PAOK?

God you're not wanting back already are you?

Spoiler:

by **Afro** Thu 25 Sep 2014, 7:18 pm

I don't think I would want to take on any of the other teams tbh but to take on Olly's winless bottom boys would be tempting if he did chuck them in.

by **Afro** Thu 25 Sep 2014, 7:21 pm

But it's largely irrelevant as he is still managing them and long may he continue to do so.

Me giving up Granada was because of Internet usage at work. Think I am still on as much as before so hasn't really made any difference Laugh

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 25 Sep 2014, 7:24 pm

If fro wants them he can have them, I really don't have that much time to get on at work I only can when I'm on the loo

I'll go to first reserve if you want or ever need someone

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 7:27 pm

I'm not gonna force you to as long as you do tactics lol.

by **Afro** Thu 25 Sep 2014, 7:32 pm

And I'm not looking for you to give them up. Would prefer you to carry on and I'll be back up if you decide you can't even get on when your on the crapper.

by Fernando Thu 25 Sep 2014, 7:50 pm

Maybe you could pair up with Afro doing everything and Olly doing as much as he does now Whistle

by Trebs Thu 25 Sep 2014, 8:03 pm

Any chance of an opinion on my squad at the moment? My side, what positions I need, types of players? I'm not sure what to do.

by GSC Thu 25 Sep 2014, 8:10 pm

Could use a bit of guile in CM imo

by Trebs Thu 25 Sep 2014, 8:24 pm

I have an eye on a creative player but it's the whole formation. I feel like I've got a load of square pegs to fit into round holes.

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