Froch says Chavez fight close to completion

"I've said before if I can't fight in Vegas I'll probably call it a day, it has to be big, and Chavez Jnr is that man, and I have had a good chat with my promoter this morning and we are making good progress with that fight and hopefully we'll have an announcement soon."

I know Carl has done enough to warrant a big pay day and easy fight but at the same time I really can't get excited about this fight. More than likely it will be PPV too and something that I will not be buying.

More exciting than a fight with DeGale and his slappy arm punches..

Despite what Froch says above, I'm still not really convinced this fight with Chavez Jr is going to happen. Never have been, to be honest.

Just seems like it would take too much compromise on the part of Chavez Jr, who has made a career out of never having to comprimise and having most things just handed on a plate to him. He's used to getting the bigger share of the purse, being allowed to rehydrate overnight to whatever weight he wants for WBC fights (the IBF as per their rules won't let him be any higher than 178-180 on fight night, which he struggled to do at Middle, never mind Super-Middle) and he has problems getting licenced in Vegas, still.

Froch and Hearn have been having "positive talks" and have been "making progress" on the Chavez Jr front for a while, but still nothing concrete and nothing coming back from Chavez's side which even suggests Froch is on their radar. Hearn let it slip a few weeks back that he had Froch provisionally booked in for the O2 in London on January 31, and I find that more believable than Vegas at the moment. That date and that location can only mean Degale or, at a stretch, a third fight with Kessler. If it has to be one of them I'd much prefer Degale.

Also to add to your list chris, I'd be suprised if chavez jr and arum are back on an even keel. I would need to read that they have sorted their promotional issues before I believe a froch fight is being made.

The Chavez fight wont happen imalmost convinced of it Hearn will want the Degale fight as domestic fights at world level sell well as we all know

What they say, what they mean:

"I've said before if I can't fight a fat useless slob for lots of money in Vegas I'll probably call it a day, it has to be a big fat f.u.c.k for big fat bucks and Chavez Jnr is that man. I have had a good chat with my promoter this morning and he's stringing me along with it in the hope of getting me to fight degale as a chavez warm up.... because he loves a ppv domestic dust up and knows he can talk me into it by pandering to my massive but fragile ego and waving a fistful of dollars in my face. We are making no progress with the chavez fight and we'll announce the degale fight soon."

I get the impression Hearn plays a bit at arranging the Chavez fight. He has to look to be trying as he owes Carl the life ambition fulfilment fight in Vegas. However he is also smart enough to know that once he has scratched this particular itch Carl rides off into the sunset and retirement. Far easier to look like he is trying to arrange Chavez fight, say it is close but book Degale with the promise of Chavez to come. Keeps Carl earning, and even if he comes a cropper against Degale Eddie replaces a 37 year old world champion with a 27 one, one with a ready made rival at that. If Carl wins, Chavez or whoever in Vegas is still there.

Like Chris says though not sure that will be Chavez, think Eddie will make the Degale fight and then finally put Froch in Vegas with whoever is available. Even if he has to match him with Ward again or GGG the result is largely irrelevant if Carl is done either way after the fight.

I was never excited by the prospect of Froch facing Chavez Jnr.

You can't hype this fight for me. I don't really rate Chavez but no doubt if they agree terms then Eddie and Carl will try to make out that Chavez is an ATG sorry not buying it.

Froch has 1 fight left in him. Go for Ward its the best time to get Andre with allhis out of ring dramas and the long layoff.

I think it will be a good fight..........

By the time it's made it will probably be spring next year.............Froch will be approaching 38...........Ring rusty since May 2014 and will be up against a good, younger guy who's renowned for his durability and who can come on strong later on...

Froch will be favorite but you know he can't last forever........

Said it before. Hearn would be an idiot not to want. Froch-JdG. Froch wins, his golden goose lives to earn him another pay day. JdG wins... well, the king is dead, long live the king, savvy?

Degale doesn't sell. Mainly because he is a total bell.

Marco_Marky - Stuffington wrote:Degale doesn't sell. Mainly because he is a total bell.

This dude is my alias....couldn't agree more!

I hope this fight doesn't happen and Froch never gets to fight in Vegas

Steffan wrote:I hope this fight doesn't happen and Froch never gets to fight in Vegas

This dude is my alias...couldn't agree more.

I love you, STEFFY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't see Froch fighting in Vegas unless he personally pushes very hard for it. Maybe Hearn would be for it if Froch gives up his IBF. That way DeGale could claim it and Hearn has two champs at the weight. If Froch doesn't give it up, then Hearn would push for the DeGale fight to satisfy DeGale, who is the mandatory after all.

I think it's a tricky situation for Hearn, in an ideal world for him he matches Froch against Degale with the latter winning, Froch winning would mean he has to put all his eggs in the Callum Smith basket.

To be honest I dont think the % split would be an issue to Froch. I think he just wants a swansong in Vegas against a very beatable opponent. Even with Chavez's prima donna behaviour I actually think this fight could actually happen as Froch would be willing to give away more than he would let on to get his wish.

After the wembley show and the aggro Groves gave him, I can see why Degale doesnt really appeal to him now.

Hearn is stringing him along as he did with the Groves rematch.

Degale fight is much better, It would be another big fight in the UK expectantly if Degale does a good job in his next fight.

Not sure if Froch can fight Chaves without dropping his IBF belt though?

After watching both Forch v Groves fights I fancy Degale to beat Froch.

Some fairly negative comments about Hearn in the thread. Is this really warranted?

Just an anti Eddie site this place strongy. Alas, not everyone has it in their locker to give objective opinion on him like your good self.

Strongback wrote:Some fairly negative comments about Hearn in the thread. Is this really warranted?

I think as every day goes by the smart, likeable persona, man of the people mask is slowly peeling away to reveal the alien reptilian hybred puppet master David Ike warned us about.

... Reptilian hybrid's a bit strong onetwo,  Strongy's not that bad

milkyboy wrote:... Reptilian hybrid's a bit strong onetwo,  Strongy's not that bad

That's two in row kid.............duly noted.

Gentle banter kid, don't get all weightlifter on me

All the recent links between Sauerland and Matchroom makes me think Froch Kessler 3 is in the pipeline.

tunes666 wrote:Degale fight is much better, It would be another big fight in the UK expectantly if Degale does a good job in his next fight.

Not sure if Froch can fight Chaves without dropping his IBF belt though?

After watching both Forch v Groves fights I fancy Degale to beat Froch.

Now there's a surprise.......

I just can't see Froch DeGale being a big enough sell, in fact I think Froch Groves III would still do better than either DeGale or Kessler III. Chavez or Ward only for me,else retirement beckons. As much as I dislike Froch and was going for Groves I really feel Froch couldn't get as motivated as possible for that first fight and feel he would struggle for motivation against DeGale too. Not sure if Ward Froch would be PPV in America but I think that's the best fight for his legacy should he win, a legacy he he clearly is obsessed with.
On a side note, would love to see Kessler Groves so we can really gauge where Groves is at. Rebrasse was such an easy fight for him and seeing how he performs against a past-peak but still world level Kessler then we would know where Groves level is. Not sure how Sauerland feel about putting 2 of their stars in together though.

Agree I'd like to see Groves-Kessler also. MK still has somew power on those fists so GG will have to keep his concentration for the full 12.

Yep, Kessler-Groves would definitely be interesting. But I just can't see Kessler wanting it, really.

Kessler's been looking a bit fed up with it all for a while now and certainly his comments after the Froch rematch hinted at a guy who had one eye on retirement. He's admitted that becoming a father since then has switched his focus in life, but he's refused to make a retirement announcement and has hung around on the periphery for almost eighteen months purely because there's a chance he might get another crack at Froch or Ward.

I honestly don't think, having been out of the ring for the best part of two years (that's assuming he's back in action in early 2015), at the age of 35 and with quite a few distinguishing moments behind him he's going to come back for anything less than that. He could have boxed at least once since the Froch rematch if he was open to earning another crack at a title or was still hungry to put the work in, I'm sure - but he hasn't.

I suspect at this stage Kessler has no intention of doing the round robin thing with contenders again and won't allow himself to become a potential stepping stone to someone like Groves. I think Kessler's waiting around for a third Froch fight, but if he doesn't get that I don't think he'll come back.

How can you say that world champion Froch Vs Gold medalist, Mandatory Challanger, and potentially first British Gold medalists to become champ in an all British show down? so many Degale Haters. It's a very big fight. And why would Groves who had lost twice be bigger? Froch v Degale won't sell out Wembley Stadium but I think it's bigger than Froch v Groves 1.

Don't know why people give Degale such a hard time, he has the attributes to be a genuine champ.

Because, other than you, most people think 'DeGold' is dull as dishwater and neither his fights nor personality are entertaining.

Hence why, until Hearn picked him up, he was fighting infront of a few hundred people in shopping centres.

The only gold medallist people care about now is Joshua and Degale while a tricky opponent doesn't have any fanbase to make a fight with Froch a huge one.

I don't really think there is anything 'huge' at 168 for Froch at the moment, though. Chavez Jr might tick the Vegas box but I personally don't see it as a massive fight, though I can definitely see why that's Froch's preferred option. Outside of that, the only viable names right now are Degale and a third go with Kessler, and I don't really think either is bigger or more 'exciting' than the other. Out of that pair, I'd rather see Froch in there with Degale. Froch himself has acknowledged that Kessler is a faded force now and I suspect most would be more intrigued to see him going against the young, fresh southpaw who has earned his shot than the Dane right now. Ward's career is in tatters right now and a rematch there doesn't set the pulse racing in terms of how people think it will unfold or what kind of fight it'd be.

The only fights I'd really consider to be huge and truly exciting right now for Froch are dependant on people moving up in weight; either Golovkin coming up to 168 or Froch himself going up to 175 to fight the winner of Kovalev-Hopkins or Stevenson. If neither of those things happen, then it leaves us with a few possible outcomes for Froch, but nothing that's really big. Hence I don't think it'd be totally fair on Degale if he was swept aside and out of the reckoning because he brings nothing to the table, as they say.

Joshua and degale should be fighting on the same cards; billed as two Olympic gold medallists.

Degale should headline, with Joshua supporting. This would give Degale exposure on the back of Joshuas fans, while reducing the pressure on Joshua and dampening some of the hype.

If the Kessler who lost to Froch showed up to fight Groves he would beat him more handily than froch did, albeit with or without the stunning KO.

Froch vs JCC would be a barnstormer, though it's significance in boxing terms is negligible. Froch vs Kessler is the same - great fight but only important to the competitors, because its a rubber match.

Froch vs Degale is more significant (for degale at least) though it wouldn't be a particularly mouth watering affair in terms of action.

I'd go for Dirrel, who is seldom mentioned. It's a decent match-up, with a titles on the line, and an opportunity to beat a yank

Isn't Chavez the money fight over in Vegas though?
Can't see Degale being a big enough fight for Froch and if Bellew/clev bombs, could see that as being a black mark against it being PPV (which I'm assuming will be the norm for this one)

3fingers wrote:Joshua and degale should be fighting on the same cards; billed as two Olympic gold medallists.

Degale should headline, with Joshua supporting. This would give Degale exposure on the back of Joshuas fans, while reducing the pressure on Joshua and dampening some of the hype.

Good idea, could throw in Luke Campbell too, has such an obvious strap line. Not sure DeGale can carry a headline bill on his own though, needs a pretty top oppo - and not domestic (unless GG or Froch).

Apparently Froch has told Hearn if its not Chavez in Vegas up next he will retire.

Yeah he said that on sky sports news today. He also said Hearn's response was "you can't do that" and Froch said "i can" haha