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Post by Liam_Main Thu May 26, 2011 8:02 am

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Englands side vs Sri Lanka: 1st test

1) Andrew Strauss (c)
2) Alistair Cook
3) Jonathan Trott
4) Kevin Pietersen
5) Ian Bell
6) Eoin Morgan
7) Matt Prior (w-k)
8) Stuart Broad
9) Graeme Swann
10) James Anderson
11) Chris Tremlett


Feel free to discuss the match under this thread
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Post by Guest Thu May 26, 2011 9:45 pm

kp will come good he is a quality batsman, and he hasnt lost his ablity overrnight.

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Post by sonic_boom10 Thu May 26, 2011 9:46 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:Pietersen made a double hundred a few tests ago, so he's not exactly in horrible form. However he needs to perform in this series otherwise his place will be under threat, especially with guys like Hildreth and Taylor enjoying excellent seasons so far.
the 200 has been he only decent score in close to 2 years, hardly ending the drought

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Post by ML Thu May 26, 2011 9:51 pm

sonic_boom10 wrote:
Pietersen one of the greatest Test batsmen in recent years? Behave.

Even at his best he was only par with guys like Mahela and Sangakkara.

He was never in the same league as Tendulkar, Ponting, Kallis etc

Have to agree wholeheartedly - and until he adjusts his technique he will never move up to the list of modernday greats either. He has an exceptional eye, but his persistance in playing across the line to any bowler that he doesn't rate will continue to get him into trouble at international level.

His desire to dominate the opposition and determination to cow bowlers into submission needs to be tempered - too often in International matches have we seen KP trying too much too early in his innings and giving away his wicket.

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Post by Gregers Thu May 26, 2011 9:55 pm

Sonic, i'm one of the most anti-pieterson members on here.

I meant Greatest when it comes to being almost unbowlable at when he's in top form. But when was the last time he dominated an attack?

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu May 26, 2011 9:56 pm

KP gets a lot of unfair stick I think. "only decent score in close to two years"? It is his only century in 2 years, but he's also made a further 7 fifties in that time, despite missing a fair chunk through injury. Still averages 40 during that time, which is not great, but nothing awful either...

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Post by Gregers Thu May 26, 2011 9:57 pm

Actually maybe greatest was a bit too much lol

And making 50's and not converting means that we struggle against teams at times. If Cook/Strauss/Trott fail then we're 4 down for 150 before you know it.

Pieterson also doesn't know (or want to) how to play the anchor role and see us to 300+

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Post by Guest Thu May 26, 2011 10:01 pm

averaging 40 in that time, is a good effort

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu May 26, 2011 10:04 pm

My point was more along the lines of, he hasn't been playing great, but hasn't been terrible either. I do wish we could see more innings like the Adelaide one though.

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Post by Guest Thu May 26, 2011 10:05 pm

i think everyone does lol

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu May 26, 2011 10:08 pm

Except the SL fans maybe? Anyway, players off for lunch, and as near as I can tell if it doesn't start raining again in the next forty minutes we'll be starting then.


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Post by Guest Thu May 26, 2011 10:09 pm

hopefully start soon, looking forward to it..

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Post by Gregers Thu May 26, 2011 10:10 pm

Same CF, who won the toss?

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu May 26, 2011 10:11 pm

latest news, toss at 12:45, start at 13:15

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Post by Guest Thu May 26, 2011 10:13 pm

its gonna be an intresting toss

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Post by Liam_Main Thu May 26, 2011 10:16 pm

Toss possibly delayed if the rain doesn't clear up.
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Post by Guest Thu May 26, 2011 10:17 pm

its going to be a frustrating day

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Post by Liam_Main Thu May 26, 2011 10:20 pm

Can see the rain coming and going during most of the day. Just hoping for a few hours of play at least.
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Post by Guest Thu May 26, 2011 10:22 pm

im hoping to see something its going to be a good series

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Post by sonic_boom10 Thu May 26, 2011 10:23 pm

Gregers wrote:Sonic, i'm one of the most anti-pieterson members on here.

I meant Greatest when it comes to being almost unbowlable at when he's in top form. But when was the last time he dominated an attack?
Yes fair point there, KP seems uninterested or all ways stuck in 6th gear these days

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Post by sonic_boom10 Thu May 26, 2011 10:25 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:KP gets a lot of unfair stick I think. "only decent score in close to two years"? It is his only century in 2 years, but he's also made a further 7 fifties in that time, despite missing a fair chunk through injury. Still averages 40 during that time, which is not great, but nothing awful either...
If the premier batsman scored only 1 hundred in 2 years, but scores 7 50s is deemed a good return? Or an average of 40?

I think not.

Lest we forget, when KP first arrived, guys like Botham, Willis and Holding where continually hailing him as the new IVA Richards.

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Post by sonic_boom10 Thu May 26, 2011 10:26 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:My point was more along the lines of, he hasn't been playing great, but hasn't been terrible either. I do wish we could see more innings like the Adelaide one though.
More flat roads vs very mediocre bowling then MFC?

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Post by Liam_Main Thu May 26, 2011 10:27 pm

Raining heavy now,grrrrr!!!
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Post by Guest Thu May 26, 2011 10:27 pm

damn

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu May 26, 2011 10:31 pm

daft idea to have a test match in cardiff anyway

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Post by Liam_Main Thu May 26, 2011 10:33 pm

Considering going on the Xbox till play starts.

Thats if it starts though have a feeling theres gonna be alot of rain this afternoon.
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Post by Guest Thu May 26, 2011 10:33 pm

hmm same

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu May 26, 2011 10:38 pm

Gah go away stupid rain...

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Post by Guest Thu May 26, 2011 11:13 pm

raining again

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu May 26, 2011 11:48 pm

latest news suggests toss in half an hour, start half an hour later

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Post by Guest Thu May 26, 2011 11:49 pm

everytime they mention the toss it starts raining again

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Post by Liam_Main Fri May 27, 2011 12:02 am

I'm not even too sure where going too get any play.
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Post by Liam_Main Fri May 27, 2011 12:04 am

Just when I say that the covers come off.
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Post by Guest Fri May 27, 2011 12:06 am

yay hopefully play will be immient!!

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Post by Liam_Main Fri May 27, 2011 12:19 am

Sri Lanka win the toss,bat first.
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Post by Guest Fri May 27, 2011 12:26 am

and then it rains..

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri May 27, 2011 12:27 am

and it's raining again Sad

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Post by Liam_Main Fri May 27, 2011 12:49 am

Play scheduled to begin at half 3.
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Post by Guest Fri May 27, 2011 12:50 am

and its raining again

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Post by hodge Fri May 27, 2011 12:55 am

I live in Somerset and we get the weather shortly after Cardiff does so i can be expecting some more rain in a bit then i assume mad

On the KP arguement, if he doesn't make runs this series he should be sent back to county cricket to prove himself imo, he has enjoyed the longest stint in the team without being cut (as far as i remember) and someone having a good season (Taylor and Hildreth come to mind) should be given their chance.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri May 27, 2011 1:25 am

well it seems that England are out warming up, so they're hopeful of getting started pretty soon. Be interesting to see who takes the new ball for England, whether it will be Tremlett or Broad, thoughts?

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Post by Liam_Main Fri May 27, 2011 1:27 am

Finally where getting some action.

I think Broad and Anderson will take on the new ball with Tremlett 3rd bowler.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri May 27, 2011 1:29 am

right, here we go, Anderson to take the first over.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri May 27, 2011 1:39 am

not much in the pitch so far, Broad a bit too full. that last ball was better, Dilshan looks a bit jittery.

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Post by Liam_Main Fri May 27, 2011 1:41 am

Expensive over from Broad but bowled one or two beautys.
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Post by Liam_Main Fri May 27, 2011 1:41 am

Paranavitanas started confident.
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Post by Liam_Main Fri May 27, 2011 1:44 am

Just when I say that he starts to miss a few.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri May 27, 2011 1:44 am

first sign of swing there from Jimmy, thudding into Para's pads, but it's way too high. He then beats him outside off with one that goes straight on, before the last ball swings down leg. Signs of swing definitely there.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri May 27, 2011 1:47 am

Broad looking sharp, clocking 91 mph on that bouncer

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Post by Liam_Main Fri May 27, 2011 1:50 am

Anderson getting some swing,Broad looking sharp. Good signs for the bowlers.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri May 27, 2011 1:57 am

Broad beat Para a couple more times in that over, England looking nice and sharp with the ball so far.

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