C'mon the eagles

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Good start by the ABs strong tackling by the Eagles

Taylorman wrote:

quinsforever wrote:i lived in New York. And my wife is american.

if they get whipped they have no interest. period. they will view it as a mickey mouse sport.

this is a nation that call their baseball playoffs the World Series.

best thing that has ever happened for football in the US is their performance in football world cups. did you know they have qualified for football world cups continuously since 1990? and made the knockout stages 4/7 times?

too general a statement to be taken seriously quins. You don't speak for 250 million Americans. There will be several thousand that have a big interest in this match and I'm pretty sure its not 60,000 kiwis packing that stadium. Long term impacts nobody knows...but it won't be 'Nil' as you suggest. How much more than that...nobody knows.

insightful comment.

i lived there for 7 years and had season tickets to the rangers in new york. i think that qualifies me to have an opinion on what americans engage with in terms of sporting competitions and their own national sides.

america doesnt do second best. they do winning, and safety of their kids.

Still apparently a growing sport so there is obviously some interest. Will be like Soccer I think...definitely getting a WC or something would make a difference.

quinsforever wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

quinsforever wrote:i lived in New York. And my wife is american.

if they get whipped they have no interest. period. they will view it as a mickey mouse sport.

this is a nation that call their baseball playoffs the World Series.

best thing that has ever happened for football in the US is their performance in football world cups. did you know they have qualified for football world cups continuously since 1990? and made the knockout stages 4/7 times?

too general a statement to be taken seriously quins. You don't speak for 250 million Americans. There will be several thousand that have a big interest in this match and I'm pretty sure its not 60,000 kiwis packing that stadium. Long term impacts nobody knows...but it won't be 'Nil' as you suggest. How much more than that...nobody knows.

insightful comment.

i lived there for 7 years and had season tickets to the rangers in new york. i think that qualifies me to have an opinion on what americans engage with in terms of sporting competitions and their own national sides.

america doesnt do second best. they do winning, and safety of their kids.

really? Is that what all the guns are for?

Taylorman wrote:

quinsforever wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

quinsforever wrote:i lived in New York. And my wife is american.

if they get whipped they have no interest. period. they will view it as a mickey mouse sport.

this is a nation that call their baseball playoffs the World Series.

best thing that has ever happened for football in the US is their performance in football world cups. did you know they have qualified for football world cups continuously since 1990? and made the knockout stages 4/7 times?

too general a statement to be taken seriously quins. You don't speak for 250 million Americans. There will be several thousand that have a big interest in this match and I'm pretty sure its not 60,000 kiwis packing that stadium. Long term impacts nobody knows...but it won't be 'Nil' as you suggest. How much more than that...nobody knows.

insightful comment.

i lived there for 7 years and had season tickets to the rangers in new york. i think that qualifies me to have an opinion on what americans engage with in terms of sporting competitions and their own national sides.

america doesnt do second best. they do winning, and safety of their kids.

really? Is that what all the guns are for?

in sport, fool.

if you want to talk about the nra thats a different website. its a constitutional debate about the right to bear arms and form a militia as set down in their constitution, combined with the practical reality of state vs federal government, and the implications for presidential elections.

Oh oh...dont disagree with Quins...first he will insult you because he cant argue the point and then will complain so much the thread will get closed down when you retaliate.

To be fair the All Blacks don't even seem to be playing at 40% of ability,just jogging around.
The yanks seem to hate the physical stuff too ,not realizing the clock doesn't stop because a man is down.
The commentary is cringe worthy too "the try zone".

quinsforever wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

quinsforever wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

quinsforever wrote:i lived in New York. And my wife is american.

if they get whipped they have no interest. period. they will view it as a mickey mouse sport.

this is a nation that call their baseball playoffs the World Series.

best thing that has ever happened for football in the US is their performance in football world cups. did you know they have qualified for football world cups continuously since 1990? and made the knockout stages 4/7 times?

too general a statement to be taken seriously quins. You don't speak for 250 million Americans. There will be several thousand that have a big interest in this match and I'm pretty sure its not 60,000 kiwis packing that stadium. Long term impacts nobody knows...but it won't be 'Nil' as you suggest. How much more than that...nobody knows.

insightful comment.

i lived there for 7 years and had season tickets to the rangers in new york. i think that qualifies me to have an opinion on what americans engage with in terms of sporting competitions and their own national sides.

america doesnt do second best. they do winning, and safety of their kids.

really? Is that what all the guns are for?

in sport, fool.

if you want to talk about the nra thats a different website. its a constitutional debate about the right to bear arms and form a militia as set down in their constitution, combined with the practical reality of state vs federal government, and the implications for presidential elections.

shut it quins you are such a tool

you brought up the kids thing, not me. If kids were priority, there would be no guns. Simple. That its made more complex is no excuse.

Like I said, you don't speak for all Americans and there are some trying to push the rugby agenda by getting something out of this, and with your attitude, you wouldnt be part of that setup.

On with the game.

ME-109 wrote:Still apparently a growing sport so there is obviously some interest. Will be like Soccer I think...definitely getting a WC or something would make a difference.

is never going to be like soccer. you obviously arent aware how many people play soccer in the US. no-one plays American Football any more as its viewed as a health risk for kids.

for your edification. from wikipedia. which is obviously out of date and understates the numbers given they are old and the US's major sporting soccer success has happened in the last 12 years.

"Popularity[edit]
As of 2006, over 24 million Americans play soccer. There are 4.2 million players (2.5 million men and 1.7 million women) registered with U.S. Soccer.[20] Thirty percent of American households contain someone playing soccer, a figure second only to baseball.[21] Increasing numbers of Americans, having played the game in their youth, are now avid spectators. A 2011 ESPN sports poll ranked soccer as the fourth most popular team sport in the United States, with 8.2% of Americans ranking soccer as their favorite sport (compared to 3.8% for hockey).[22] A 2011 ESPN sports poll ranked soccer as the second most popular sport in the country for 12-24-year-olds.[23] In 2013, Lionel Messi became the first soccer player ever to rank among the Top 10 most popular athletes in the U.S.[24]

In addition, as Latin American immigration increases throughout the nation, so does the popularity of soccer. Furthermore, the increase in popularity of soccer in the United States is also the result of other factors such as globalization (with the resulting greater TV exposure given to soccer), the continued presence of U.S. teams in international competitions, and the continued building of soccer-specific stadiums in the country."

On with the game as someone said...

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:

quinsforever wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

quinsforever wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

quinsforever wrote:i lived in New York. And my wife is american.

if they get whipped they have no interest. period. they will view it as a mickey mouse sport.

this is a nation that call their baseball playoffs the World Series.

best thing that has ever happened for football in the US is their performance in football world cups. did you know they have qualified for football world cups continuously since 1990? and made the knockout stages 4/7 times?

too general a statement to be taken seriously quins. You don't speak for 250 million Americans. There will be several thousand that have a big interest in this match and I'm pretty sure its not 60,000 kiwis packing that stadium. Long term impacts nobody knows...but it won't be 'Nil' as you suggest. How much more than that...nobody knows.

insightful comment.

i lived there for 7 years and had season tickets to the rangers in new york. i think that qualifies me to have an opinion on what americans engage with in terms of sporting competitions and their own national sides.

america doesnt do second best. they do winning, and safety of their kids.

really? Is that what all the guns are for?

in sport, fool.

if you want to talk about the nra thats a different website. its a constitutional debate about the right to bear arms and form a militia as set down in their constitution, combined with the practical reality of state vs federal government, and the implications for presidential elections.

shut it quins you are such a tool

take too many steroids this week? wow. big man. small brain.

There's been some pretty skilful tries from the ABs and some big tackles from both teams. The ref Joubert has tried his best to let the game flow. Overall, it's been a pretty good exhibition for the large American crowd. Much better than the Japan game last year which was dire.

quinsforever wrote:

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:

quinsforever wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

quinsforever wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

quinsforever wrote:i lived in New York. And my wife is american.

if they get whipped they have no interest. period. they will view it as a mickey mouse sport.

this is a nation that call their baseball playoffs the World Series.

best thing that has ever happened for football in the US is their performance in football world cups. did you know they have qualified for football world cups continuously since 1990? and made the knockout stages 4/7 times?

too general a statement to be taken seriously quins. You don't speak for 250 million Americans. There will be several thousand that have a big interest in this match and I'm pretty sure its not 60,000 kiwis packing that stadium. Long term impacts nobody knows...but it won't be 'Nil' as you suggest. How much more than that...nobody knows.

insightful comment.

i lived there for 7 years and had season tickets to the rangers in new york. i think that qualifies me to have an opinion on what americans engage with in terms of sporting competitions and their own national sides.

america doesnt do second best. they do winning, and safety of their kids.

really? Is that what all the guns are for?

in sport, fool.

if you want to talk about the nra thats a different website. its a constitutional debate about the right to bear arms and form a militia as set down in their constitution, combined with the practical reality of state vs federal government, and the implications for presidential elections.

shut it quins you are such a tool

take too many steroids this week? wow. big man. small brain.

Don't take steroids don't want to don't need to but i could flag your comment as libel but i won't because i like confrontation and don't run to the MODS and cry like you.

Joubert was very respectful and saw sense in letting some smaller errors go

QF the commentator said it was the fastest growing...no one said it was the most popular...it is apparently growing in popularity...how bad...if you want to be 100% right that it isnt the most popular or the fastest growing then you are 100% right....now are you satisfied...its not a big deal...

you are such a poor man's WUM that why would anyone complain to the moderators about any of your limp comments, posts or threads?

at least GE had some flair.

Where is Toby?

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Joubert was very respectful and saw sense in letting some smaller errors go

I thought he got a bit picky at the end....tried to stop himself once or twice but you could see it was hurting him...

I thought that was a pretty good advertisement for the game of rugby, by players, coaches, officials and broadcasters.

My only comcern is that tomorrow the ABs will fly out of town and in a weeks time everything just becomes a distant memory.

ME-109 wrote:QF the commentator said it was the fastest growing...no one said it was the most popular...it is apparently growing in popularity...how bad...if you want to be 100% right that it isnt the most popular or the fastest growing then you are 100% right....now are you satisfied...its not a big deal...

i agree. the semantics arent relevant.

rugby has major challenges (in the US) which no-one on the commentary team obviously mentioned because its not the place for it, which are to do with concussion and injury of players in the NFL in the US. $800m settlement for players seriously injured as a result of concussion. And at least if kids make it in the NFL they can get paid $10m per annum. Rugby is largely an East Coast private school phenomenon in the US and hence always likely to be largely Amateur. And thats not even getting into the tribal battles within Eagles and USARugby's management.

unfortunately, rugby is always going to struggle to grow to any kind of meaningful size in the US. because the US are bad at it, and the injury risks are terrifying for parents and a lawsuit waiting to happen just like American Football.

However, exhibition games are a great idea if teams can fit them into their schedules. But i wouldnt expect any impact whatsoever on the US's contribution to rugby as a result of seeing the Eagles get whipped.

aucklandlaurie wrote:
I thought that was a pretty good advertisement for the game of rugby, by players, coaches, officials and broadcasters.

My only comcern is that tomorrow the ABs will fly out of town and in a weeks time everything just becomes a distant memory.

I would say any young kid interested in rugby would have been inspired by some of the skill shown on Soldier field today. Growing a sport doesn't happen overnight, small steps.

maestegmafia wrote:

aucklandlaurie wrote:
I thought that was a pretty good advertisement for the game of rugby, by players, coaches, officials and broadcasters.

My only comcern is that tomorrow the ABs will fly out of town and in a weeks time everything just becomes a distant memory.

I would say any young kid interested in rugby would have been inspired by some of the skill shown on Soldier field today. Growing a sport doesn't happen overnight, small steps.

Definitely.

but, if that kid wants to improve meaningfully at rugby he is going to have to leave the US. because there is no professional rugby in the US. it's still very very much an amateur sport.

quinsforever wrote:

ME-109 wrote:Still apparently a growing sport so there is obviously some interest. Will be like Soccer I think...definitely getting a WC or something would make a difference.

is never going to be like soccer. you obviously arent aware how many people play soccer in the US. no-one plays American Football any more as its viewed as a health risk for kids.

for your edification. from wikipedia. which is obviously out of date and understates the numbers given they are old and the US's major sporting soccer success has happened in the last 12 years.

"Popularity[edit]
As of 2006, over 24 million Americans play soccer. There are 4.2 million players (2.5 million men and 1.7 million women) registered with U.S. Soccer.[20] Thirty percent of American households contain someone playing soccer, a figure second only to baseball.[21] Increasing numbers of Americans, having played the game in their youth, are now avid spectators. A 2011 ESPN sports poll ranked soccer as the fourth most popular team sport in the United States, with 8.2% of Americans ranking soccer as their favorite sport (compared to 3.8% for hockey).[22] A 2011 ESPN sports poll ranked soccer as the second most popular sport in the country for 12-24-year-olds.[23] In 2013, Lionel Messi became the first soccer player ever to rank among the Top 10 most popular athletes in the U.S.[24]

In addition, as Latin American immigration increases throughout the nation, so does the popularity of soccer. Furthermore, the increase in popularity of soccer in the United States is also the result of other factors such as globalization (with the resulting greater TV exposure given to soccer), the continued presence of U.S. teams in international competitions, and the continued building of soccer-specific stadiums in the country."

Well that is just simply not true, where did you hear that?...In terms of popularity Soccer is certainly growing very fast in the US but soccer is still a LONG way behind college football let alone the NFL. Crowds still aren't great for the MLS (average is about 20k per season) whereas teams like Penn State are averaging 96k a season.

quinsforever wrote:

ME-109 wrote:QF the commentator said it was the fastest growing...no one said it was the most popular...it is apparently growing in popularity...how bad...if you want to be 100% right that it isnt the most popular or the fastest growing then you are 100% right....now are you satisfied...its not a big deal...

i agree. the semantics arent relevant.

rugby has major challenges (in the US) which no-one on the commentary team obviously mentioned because its not the place for it, which are to do with concussion and injury of players in the NFL in the US. $800m settlement for players seriously injured as a result of concussion. And at least if kids make it in the NFL they can get paid $10m per annum. Rugby is largely an East Coast private school phenomenon in the US and hence always likely to be largely Amateur. And thats not even getting into the tribal battles within Eagles and USARugby's management.

unfortunately, rugby is always going to struggle to grow to any kind of meaningful size in the US. because the US are bad at it, and the injury risks are terrifying for parents and a lawsuit waiting to happen just like American Football.

However, exhibition games are a great idea if teams can fit them into their schedules. But i wouldnt expect any impact whatsoever on the US's contribution to rugby as a result of seeing the Eagles get whipped.

See much better when you apply yourself..

I dont particularly agree overall but the one thing I would say is there is a strong Islander population on the West coast which is where it is quite strong as well. It isnt going to happen overnight but it is a growing in popularity especially in the Colleges and Universities....

LeinsterFan4life wrote:

quinsforever wrote:

ME-109 wrote:Still apparently a growing sport so there is obviously some interest. Will be like Soccer I think...definitely getting a WC or something would make a difference.

is never going to be like soccer. you obviously arent aware how many people play soccer in the US. no-one plays American Football any more as its viewed as a health risk for kids.

for your edification. from wikipedia. which is obviously out of date and understates the numbers given they are old and the US's major sporting soccer success has happened in the last 12 years.

"Popularity[edit]
As of 2006, over 24 million Americans play soccer. There are 4.2 million players (2.5 million men and 1.7 million women) registered with U.S. Soccer.[20] Thirty percent of American households contain someone playing soccer, a figure second only to baseball.[21] Increasing numbers of Americans, having played the game in their youth, are now avid spectators. A 2011 ESPN sports poll ranked soccer as the fourth most popular team sport in the United States, with 8.2% of Americans ranking soccer as their favorite sport (compared to 3.8% for hockey).[22] A 2011 ESPN sports poll ranked soccer as the second most popular sport in the country for 12-24-year-olds.[23] In 2013, Lionel Messi became the first soccer player ever to rank among the Top 10 most popular athletes in the U.S.[24]

In addition, as Latin American immigration increases throughout the nation, so does the popularity of soccer. Furthermore, the increase in popularity of soccer in the United States is also the result of other factors such as globalization (with the resulting greater TV exposure given to soccer), the continued presence of U.S. teams in international competitions, and the continued building of soccer-specific stadiums in the country."

Well that is just simply not true, where did you hear that?...In terms of popularity Soccer is certainly growing very fast in the US but soccer is still a LONG way behind college football let alone the NFL. Crowds still aren't great for the MLS (average is about 20k per season) whereas teams like Penn State are averaging 96k a season.

soccer is way way ahead of American football in participation. thats what people here dont realise. NFL makes vast money. but very few people play it any more as kids. the colleges recruit, i hate to say it, in areas which are more economically challenged.

look it up. there is nothing controversial in what i have said.

Great show from both teams, though not a favourable scoreline for the Americans. Not entirely sure how they'll react to this. Was still a good idea though, and good of the PRL to release their USA players.

Who in their right mind would argue that a 'single' game of rugby would kick start rugby in the USA. I think everyone knows where rugby sits in the greater scheme of American sport. Soccerrr was in the same place two decades ago. They hosted the WC, re-ignited their pro comp with a heap of high profile imports, and now look at that sport. Rugby hasn't done any of that, but there's 'potential' at least to grow, which is the point.

Well that was a little hard to watch.

NZ blacks are just in a different class.

I thought the US stayed strong, and kept making the tackles. Unfortunately at this level if your basic skills are inferior then you can't compete. The US ran out of stamina as the game wore on under the relentless toll of tackles and showed their lack of professional conditioning. But let's face it in the first half the Eagles took it to the Blacks and went toe to toe. Enjoying 63% possession and 61% territorial advantage.

I thought Joubert could've been more sympathetic at the breakdown and scrum. The Eagles were out matched rather than deliberately fouling the scrum. Although I was disappointed with the discipline in the second half.

Looked like the blacks picked up some injuries on the hard artificial turf - something they wouldn't be used to. I saw at least three who won't be available next week including SBW and Corey. Also appears Kieran Read May still have concussion issues. Some toll.

At the end if the day the fans got their money's worth in seeing some outstanding skills from the undeniable worlds best tonight and the kiwis walk away with a ten million dollar pay day. So everyone is happy.

Good luck to the blacks on their tour of England and good luck to the English countries who have to face them!

TobyBryant wrote:Well that was a little hard to watch.

NZ blacks are just in a different class.

I thought the US stayed strong, and kept making the tackles. Unfortunately at this level if your basic skills are inferior then you can't compete. The US ran out of stamina as the game wore on under the relentless toll of tackles and showed their lack of professional conditioning. But let's face it in the first half the Eagles took it to the Blacks and went toe to toe. Enjoying 63% possession and 61% territorial advantage.

I thought Joubert could've been more sympathetic at the breakdown and scrum. The Eagles were out matched rather than deliberately fouling the scrum. Although I was disappointed with the discipline in the second half.

Looked like the blacks picked up some injuries on the hard artificial turf - something they wouldn't be used to. I saw at least three who won't be available next week including SBW and Corey. Also appears Kieran Read May still have concussion issues. Some toll.

At the end if the day the fans got their money's worth in seeing some outstanding skills from the undeniable worlds best tonight and the kiwis walk away with a ten million dollar pay day. So everyone is happy.

Good luck to the blacks on their tour of England and good luck to the English countries who have to face them!

Excellent

Well you'll need the luck !!!

Carter is past it. Decent kicking but he looked slow and his passing, what was up with that? Awful.

I've decided I've had it with this forum. I played through lots of years as a semi pro player. Genuine rugby talk is eclipsed by little pricks like you toby. ghost. combinators. empire. whoever. Get on the pitch and try your cowpat there. You're an annoying, obviously very little man. I'm going to get a hot bath because i still play the game i love in my forties. You.....you've never played. You sir are an bumhole.
Ban me....I'm leaving anyhoo....needed saying, this little Tinkywinky ruind the forum

ultra wrote:I've decided I've had it with this forum. I played through lots of years as a semi pro player. Genuine rugby talk is eclipsed by little pricks like you toby. ghost. combinators. empire. whoever. Get on the pitch and try your cowpat there. You're an annoying, obviously very little man. I'm going to get a hot bath because i still play the game i love in my forties. You.....you've never played. You sir are an bumhole.
Ban me....I'm leaving anyhoo....needed saying, this little Tinkywinky ruind the forum

We have all been in your shoes at one point,so just take a day or two out of 606 then come back expecting nothing less from some people ,then you will find clearly perspective and more enjoyable time on 606.

ultra wrote:I've decided I've had it with this forum. I played through lots of years as a semi pro player. Genuine rugby talk is eclipsed by little pricks like you toby. ghost. combinators. empire. whoever. Get on the pitch and try your cowpat there. You're an annoying, obviously very little man. I'm going to get a hot bath because i still play the game i love in my forties. You.....you've never played. You sir are an bumhole.
Ban me....I'm leaving anyhoo....needed saying, this little Tinkywinky ruind the forum

I've been around the game for 30 years. I play at my own limited level and I have many many genuine friends collected through my years of involvement. What *I* find amongst genuine fans is banter, a sense of humour and a sense of perspective. If your idea of "genuine" rugby talk is surface skimming self indulgent monotonous lists of "my squad of 33 for X" and golf claps all round then I suspect it is actually you who is faking it.  So if you prefer to blame me as a scapegoat for your representative insecurities then that's your issue. Walk on my key rattling cyber-friend. I've done absolutely nothing to warrant your ridiculous late night diatribe.

TobyBryant wrote:

ultra wrote:I've decided I've had it with this forum. I played through lots of years as a semi pro player. Genuine rugby talk is eclipsed by little pricks like you toby. ghost. combinators. empire. whoever. Get on the pitch and try your cowpat there. You're an annoying, obviously very little man. I'm going to get a hot bath because i still play the game i love in my forties. You.....you've never played. You sir are an bumhole.
Ban me....I'm leaving anyhoo....needed saying, this little Tinkywinky ruind the forum

I've been around the game for 30 years. I play at my own limited level and I have many many genuine friends collected through my years of involvement. What *I* find amongst genuine fans is banter, a sense of humour and a sense of perspective. If your idea of "genuine" rugby talk is surface skimming self indulgent monotonous lists of "my squad of 33 for X" and golf claps all round then I suspect it is actually you who is faking it.  So if you prefer to blame me as a scapegoat for your representative insecurities then that's your issue. Walk on my key rattling cyber-friend. I've done absolutely nothing to warrant your ridiculous late night diatribe.

ultra wrote:I've decided I've had it with this forum. I played through lots of years as a semi pro player. Genuine rugby talk is eclipsed by little pricks like you toby. ghost. combinators. empire. whoever. Get on the pitch and try your cowpat there. You're an annoying, obviously very little man. I'm going to get a hot bath because i still play the game i love in my forties. You.....you've never played. You sir are an bumhole.
Ban me....I'm leaving anyhoo....needed saying, this little Tinkywinky ruind the forum

It's fine. The mods will take care of it eventually. Come back in a month and see another reincarnation. Dim problem. Us other posters seem to be the problem, not the choice of poster/nationality etc he chooses to be. You can't spell out the obvious of who he is mind. That's a sin.

Didn't realise he was such a big DC fan.

It's hard to know where DC is at. At least he didn't come up lame so that's a bonus. I'm resigned to the fact we'll never see him again at his best but I suppose it's still good to have him around. I'm sure he still commands some respect from opponents. But we gotta be honest, he's done his dash. True AB legend though. And while I'm at it, I've given Mealamu a bit of a serve over the last year or so, but he's been playing really well lately and his lineouts have been much better. So good on ya Kev, top bloke with a big heart, another great AB.

TobyBryant wrote:Well that was a little hard to watch.

NZ blacks are just in a different class.

I thought the US stayed strong, and kept making the tackles. Unfortunately at this level if your basic skills are inferior then you can't compete. The US ran out of stamina as the game wore on under the relentless toll of tackles and showed their lack of professional conditioning. But let's face it in the first half the Eagles took it to the Blacks and went toe to toe. Enjoying 63% possession and 61% territorial advantage.

I thought Joubert could've been more sympathetic at the breakdown and scrum. The Eagles were out matched rather than deliberately fouling the scrum. Although I was disappointed with the discipline in the second half.

Looked like the blacks picked up some injuries on the hard artificial turf - something they wouldn't be used to. I saw at least three who won't be available next week including SBW and Corey. Also appears Kieran Read May still have concussion issues. Some toll.

At the end if the day the fans got their money's worth in seeing some outstanding skills from the undeniable worlds best tonight and the kiwis walk away with a ten million dollar pay day. So everyone is happy.

Good luck to the blacks on their tour of England and good luck to the English countries who have to face them!

It's natural grass. Would have thought any casual observer would have spotted that and any American known it about one of the country's oldest & most iconic entertainment venues.

It looked promising in the first half when the eagles put those 6 points on the board, it looked like the Abs was going to say, we was a bit rusty today.

But in the end it was more like men v boys. the Abs did'nt seem to have any problem getting through the defence of the americans. How they cam claim that the Abs side was an inexperience side is a laugh.

Lets hope this game will help more than indure the game for american rugby.

Why do the Abs always seem to have these sort of game/s at the start of the autubm internationals? It is like the IRB want the Abs to have an easy game at the start/ just before the start of the Ais so the Abs can try unproven players.

Or am i wrong about that?

ultra wrote:I've decided I've had it with this forum. I played through lots of years as a semi pro player. Genuine rugby talk is eclipsed by little pricks like you toby. ghost. combinators. empire. whoever. Get on the pitch and try your cowpat there. You're an annoying, obviously very little man. I'm going to get a hot bath because i still play the game i love in my forties. You.....you've never played. You sir are an bumhole.
Ban me....I'm leaving anyhoo....needed saying, this little Tinkywinky ruind the forum

Don't let it get to you. You can always just block Muppet like him anyway.

As others have said give it a week or two and hopefully the mods will wake up and ban him, again.

Stick around, contribute, don't let idiots like him win.

nth wrote:

TobyBryant wrote:Well that was a little hard to watch.

NZ blacks are just in a different class.

I thought the US stayed strong, and kept making the tackles. Unfortunately at this level if your basic skills are inferior then you can't compete. The US ran out of stamina as the game wore on under the relentless toll of tackles and showed their lack of professional conditioning. But let's face it in the first half the Eagles took it to the Blacks and went toe to toe. Enjoying 63% possession and 61% territorial advantage.

I thought Joubert could've been more sympathetic at the breakdown and scrum. The Eagles were out matched rather than deliberately fouling the scrum. Although I was disappointed with the discipline in the second half.

Looked like the blacks picked up some injuries on the hard artificial turf - something they wouldn't be used to. I saw at least three who won't be available next week including SBW and Corey. Also appears Kieran Read May still have concussion issues. Some toll.

At the end if the day the fans got their money's worth in seeing some outstanding skills from the undeniable worlds best tonight and the kiwis walk away with a ten million dollar pay day. So everyone is happy.

Good luck to the blacks on their tour of England and good luck to the English countries who have to face them!

It's natural grass. Would have thought any casual observer would have spotted that and any American known it about one of the country's oldest & most iconic entertainment venues.

I think you've missed the irony there old chap, the field is notorious for it's surface and the hype is to add an artificial surface - but the fear is increased injuries. Perhaps I needed to draw a picture next time.

majesticimperialman wrote:It looked promising in the first half when the eagles put those 6 points on the board, it looked like the Abs was going to say, we was a bit rusty today.

But in the end it was more like men v boys. the Abs did'nt seem to have any problem getting through the defence of the americans. How they cam claim that the Abs side was an inexperience side is a laugh.

Lets hope this game will help more than indure the game for american rugby.

Why do the Abs always seem to have these sort of game/s at the start of the autubm internationals? It is like the IRB want the Abs to have an easy game at the start/ just before the start of the Ais so the Abs can try unproven players.

Or am i wrong about that?

It was an inexperienced side. The blacks under Hansen have rarely played more than one new combination and its all black policy not to throw debutants in to a first tour game.

The front row was very inexperienced, the second row rested Whitelock, there was no MCaw, in the back a debutant half, two returning second five eighths, I could go on. This was a youthful and inexperienced side, who played commendably against a team that ran Ireland close twice - and we saw his close Ireland were to Nz last year!

TobyBryant wrote:

nth wrote:

TobyBryant wrote:Well that was a little hard to watch.

NZ blacks are just in a different class.

I thought the US stayed strong, and kept making the tackles. Unfortunately at this level if your basic skills are inferior then you can't compete. The US ran out of stamina as the game wore on under the relentless toll of tackles and showed their lack of professional conditioning. But let's face it in the first half the Eagles took it to the Blacks and went toe to toe. Enjoying 63% possession and 61% territorial advantage.

I thought Joubert could've been more sympathetic at the breakdown and scrum. The Eagles were out matched rather than deliberately fouling the scrum. Although I was disappointed with the discipline in the second half.

Looked like the blacks picked up some injuries on the hard artificial turf - something they wouldn't be used to. I saw at least three who won't be available next week including SBW and Corey. Also appears Kieran Read May still have concussion issues. Some toll.

At the end if the day the fans got their money's worth in seeing some outstanding skills from the undeniable worlds best tonight and the kiwis walk away with a ten million dollar pay day. So everyone is happy.

Good luck to the blacks on their tour of England and good luck to the English countries who have to face them!

It's natural grass. Would have thought any casual observer would have spotted that and any American known it about one of the country's oldest & most iconic entertainment venues.

I think you've missed the irony there old chap, the field is notorious for it's surface and the hype is to add an artificial surface - but the fear is increased injuries. Perhaps I needed to draw a picture next time.

Ghost is getting sloppier and sloppier, even in his poor attempts at deflecting his errors.  The old ghost would have done his googling beforehand.  It does make you wonder why he still bothers.

I know, even the yanks are aware that Wales exists now. That's where the act fell down for me!

Got back from Chicago early afternoon.  Was a grand event in Chicago.  Downtown Chicago had signs up everywhere celebrating the event.  My club stayed in the same hotel as the All Blacks which is one of those huge luxury hotels.  When I got got to the hotel about 10:00 on Friday night, the lobby, not just the lobby bar, was full of Kiwis and their supporters.  

I got in too late for the meet-and-greet in the hotel with the All Blacks but my mates told me they were very genial and willing to talk.  They even thought the ABs found it interesting that Americans could be so knowledgeable about Rugby.  

The game day morning tailgating started early and the the car parks were full of food and libations of all kinds.   As expected, there were Rugby clubs from all over the country.  Easy to wander around and share stories with old mates.  Energy levels were very high.  

In the stadium the energy stayed high.  The crowd was almost exclusively American along with the travelling AB supporters.  People were singing and simply enjoying the event.  Then the match started and after the 10 minute mark the reality of the situation became apparent.  It was clear the Eagles lacked the athletes and experienced players to compete.  Decision making was poor as well.  But they were game and went at it as best they could.  The crowd, all 61,000 of them, stayed to the end and supported as best they could.  

After the match, more tailgating and then back to downtown for dinner.  Spirits and amity between the Americans and Kiwis was terrific throughout.  

it was clear the Americans know how to stage an event.  Was a grand time and I would hope they have more opportunities to put on Rugby events like this.  Was nice to see a good sized stadium full to the rafters with Americans cheering on Rugby.  The big question is where does it go from here.  For that, we need to wait and see.

doctor_grey wrote: it was clear the Americans know how to stage an event.  Was a grand time and I would hope they have more opportunities to put on Rugby events like this.  Was nice to see a good sized stadium full to the rafters with Americans cheering on Rugby.  The big question is where does it go from here.  For that, we need to wait and see.

It sounds Great Doc, Lucky B$#%Tard.

What are your thoughts on the way forward for US rugby?

I'm thinking they need more opportunities to develop. More games from teams that US fans want to see in the short term. Coaching resources and a professional leagues in the longer term.

By the way where most of the US fans already rugby fans or where a fair portion just curious?

Here's Fox's take on the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_j4YAPo8mI

Or, how to win against New Zealand even when you lose 74-6



That'll delight all the followers of that Legendary Aussie Team, I'm sure

Not sure what you would call that, embarrassing, ignorant or plain dense.

Thoughts,firstly playing this game and not supporting the PI`s,NZRFU have supported the
PI`s and Canada/North America.As much as any side in the world the contested both
Pacific Nations,and Churchill Cups.Accepted and Toured matches v Fiji,touring sides to
UK played matches in Canada to develop the game and USA over 100years ago.A sides
when NZ could afford them {Juniors/Maori]have toured these places too.

Yes,this was a cash cow and funds will help develop the grass roots and fund Maori/
Junior tours.Maori v Japan were mostly ITM players.

The Match was always going to be one sided USA played well within there limitations
inexperienced side?Well that is relative only Read forward,and Dagg ,Cruden Carter
would be in current run on side.True they had a first class bench.

Dagg under doubt had a blinder,Cruden solid accept for his goal kicking,SBW looked
good.Carter eased his way back,not afraid of contact,kicked his goals,made several
telling breaks job done he`s back [but not match fit]

Coverage by tv disappointing like viewing it from an helicopter ,commentators were a
refreshing change.

Pity about the injuries especially to Harris,but the young 9`s tackle after coming on late
was devastating.