News items that dont merit their own thread...thread

by Adam D Tue 11 Nov 2014, 4:50 pm

First topic message reminder :

Jim Ross has been signed for GWFs first show - New Japans Wrestle Kingdom 9 on Jan 4th.

That is all

by dyrewolfe Wed 24 Jun 2015, 2:24 pm

Adam D wrote:Gunner is obviously the bigger loss of the two but I quite liked Shaw as well.

The biggest worry is that Aries goes. Hopefully the money saved on these two will pay for Aries.

Most of the wrestlers at TNA have a small contract that is topped up by appearances. Both Gunner and Shaw havent been on TV in months so it makes sense for them to request to leave. Gunner is a big loss in my opinion.

Agreed.

Its weird - Gunner spent at least a year or two in relative obscurity, making semi-regular appearances in mid-card matches, then just when he's getting pushed and starts becoming one of their best assets, they let him go.

Sam Shaw was a relative newcomer, but I felt there was enough about his character for him to become a great heel. Also had decent ring technique to back it up. Think they messed up when they tried to "rehabilitate" him and he went and "Gunner-fied" himself with the facial hair and tatts.

Not as bad as when they let Styles, Daniels and Kazarian go, but still a loss.

by Prometheus Wed 24 Jun 2015, 8:31 pm

Anyone been following Jeff Jarrett's tweets in the last couple of days?

by Fernando Wed 24 Jun 2015, 8:32 pm

If it's anything like usual twotter then he's been hyping an announcement?

by nadeem2099 Wed 24 Jun 2015, 8:34 pm

He tweeted something about a "deal".

by Prometheus Wed 24 Jun 2015, 8:35 pm

Of course. It's probably all BS. But I'm going for him getting a slot on Destination America to replace TNA Very Happy

Things are really coming together for this "deal"... Almost in legal's hands... #StayTuned

The deal is in legal's hands... Pretty, no, very excited about this... Here we go... @GFWWrestling #StayTuned

Not the 1st time... Certainly will not be the last-- Legalities can/will kill a deal quicker than anything... #NotForLackOfEffort

Well, stranger things have happened... Not a "done deal", but huge turnaround this morning... Definitely headed in the right direction...

by Fernando Wed 24 Jun 2015, 8:37 pm

Id hope that's true to just to see the mental breakdown of Adam Laugh

by Fernando Wed 24 Jun 2015, 11:38 pm

Paige grew boobies Shocked

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by Samo Thu 25 Jun 2015, 10:40 am

Tyson Kidd has had successful neck surgery, though reports suggest he still faces up to a year of recovery time.

by Nakatomi Plaza Thu 25 Jun 2015, 6:40 pm

Erick Rowan was injured during a match at a house show over the weekend. Looks like he's out of action for at least four months.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 25 Jun 2015, 6:51 pm

"Just to clarify everything, Bryan’s problem is concussion related stemming from his match with Sheamus on the Smackdown tapings right after Mania. Many people in wrestling have known this for some time and we were told it as soon as he got sent home from the European tour. For whatever reason, at that point a bunch of denials were made because evidently WWE wanted that under wraps. The issue is career threatening at this point."
— Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

by **Hero** Thu 25 Jun 2015, 7:18 pm

Fernando wrote:Paige grew boobies

Hulkster and DB approve!

by Samo Thu 25 Jun 2015, 7:37 pm

Nakatomi Plaza wrote:Erick Rowan was injured during a match at a house show over the weekend. Looks like he's out of action for at least four months.

Sucks for him and Harper, seems they were getting ready for a comeback once the New Day/PTP thing ends.

by Fernando Thu 25 Jun 2015, 11:29 pm

WWE has reportedly offered deals to Pro Wrestling NOAH talents "The Mighty Don't Kneel" Mikey Nicholls and Shane Haste. The duo were reportedly impressive at the recent tryouts camp at the Performance Center in Orlando. The two are just waiting for visa paperwork to process and medical testing to be done. These deals usually take several weeks after decisions are made but Nicholls and Haste, who is suffering from a knee injury, should be signed soon.

WWE’s creative department are frustrated about how the company is constantly booking itself into corners and rarely give almost anyone consistent wins or positive momentum that they need to have upward mobility due to outside involvement (HHH/Vince etc)

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 26 Jun 2015, 12:09 am

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by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 26 Jun 2015, 12:12 am

Updated Tokyo 4th July WWE card:

Brock Lesnar v Kofi Kingston
Kevin Owens v Finn Balor (NXT Title)
Jericho v Neville
John Cena & Dolph Ziggler v Kane & King Barrett
Nikki Bella v Naomi v Paige (Divas Title)
Lucha Dragons v New Day
Cesaro v Diego

by Dr Gregory House MD Fri 26 Jun 2015, 1:00 am

Fernando wrote: WWE has reportedly offered deals to Pro Wrestling NOAH talents "The Mighty Don't Kneel" Mikey Nicholls and Shane Haste. The duo were reportedly impressive at the recent tryouts camp at the Performance Center in Orlando. The two are just waiting for visa paperwork to process and medical testing to be done. These deals usually take several weeks after decisions are made but Nicholls and Haste, who is suffering from a knee injury, should be signed soon.

So that's what TMDK stands for I've always wondered, anyways they would be a great addition to NXT, excellent tag team and I think Haste has a star quality about him if they ever wanted to split and push him

by Dr Gregory House MD Fri 26 Jun 2015, 1:05 am

Indy wrestler and former AAW Heritage Champion Matt Cage has come out as gay, good for him

by Dr Gregory House MD Fri 26 Jun 2015, 1:10 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Updated Tokyo 4th July WWE card:

Brock Lesnar v Kofi Kingston
Kevin Owens v Finn Balor (NXT Title)
Jericho v Neville
John Cena & Dolph Ziggler v Kane & King Barrett
Nikki Bella v Naomi v Paige (Divas Title)
Lucha Dragons v New Day
Cesaro v Diego

This looks like the fun-est card I've seen from WWE in forever

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 26 Jun 2015, 3:28 am

Diego is an odd choice. I would love if they'd built to this on TV like an actual PPV. Jericho would have been happy to do Raw once or twice. Lucha Dragons vs New Day could have been a number one contender shot. New Day could have interrupted Lesnar.

by Prometheus Fri 26 Jun 2015, 9:57 am

Adam D wrote:Following on from the ratings for Impact going up, the ratings for ROH went down this week:
272,000 viewers - down 10% from last week's total of 301,000 viewers.

Total for Impact 449,000 was up 12% from last week.

Although still not back to the Friday night slot, it does show that IMPACT has its audience on DA - I think the above is incredibly significant for wrestling on DA as it puts into question whether they should show wrestling as opposed to keeping TNA.

What I mean by that is although I am basing this on one weeks figures, it points to TNA being the better received product, but that comes at the cost of higher production values for DA. IF a cheap program like ROH is not going to draw in viewers, do they just scrap wrestling altogether.

My hope is that this is positive news for TNA as it shows that it has a hardcore audience and that they will keep them. As long as they get over 500k for the July 1st episode, I think they will be alright.

TNA practically unchanged 451,000 (369K + 82K).
ROH well up on the previous week with 330,000 (185K + 145K).

What I think might be telling is that I'd have considered both of these shows to be "hot" going into this week. RoH was coming off the back of its PPV and it was the final showing of the New Japan stars. TNA was "live".

I think that both Adam and I have said that next week's Impact is probably the big one. The show this week has created buzz and they have the EC3 v Angle title match and the final of the best of 5 tag titles match.

by Prometheus Fri 26 Jun 2015, 10:06 am

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:Indy wrestler and former AAW Heritage Champion Matt Cage has come out as gay, good for him

What's a bit funny about this story is that I saw the news last week, that he'd come out on his facebook page. I remember that as I'd not really read it properly and had read it as Matt Cross. Then it seems that maybe this was picked up again yesterday somehow.

Anyway, as you say, fair dues to him. Personally I'm not interested one way or another in wrestler's (or any sportsmen / public figures) sexuality, but I understand that still in 2015 breaking this news can be a big personal hurdle and when public figures do it it gives strength to others to do so too.

by Samo Fri 26 Jun 2015, 10:08 am

Is Darren Young the first openly gay champion? I know that Orlando Jordan was bisexual and we all know about Pat Patterson but he wasnt out the closet back then.

by Prometheus Fri 26 Jun 2015, 11:43 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Diego is an odd choice. I would love if they'd built to this on TV like an actual PPV. Jericho would have been happy to do Raw once or twice. Lucha Dragons vs New Day could have been a number one contender shot. New Day could have interrupted Lesnar.

I think the "problem" for the WWE is that it will be airing middle of the night US time, but worse on 4th of July weekend, so I think they are probably figuring it won't even make a ripple in the US. Plus, they have been really pushing Owens as the #2 heel on Raw and he's likely to drop the US title to someone who will probably be getting massive pops in Tokyo while most casual WWE fans won't really know who he is.

So, I can't really blame them for treating this as a show for Japan and an Easter Egg for Network subscribers. I'd expect that we might get a few shots of Lesnar throwing someone around on Monday night's Raw, but I'd be surprised if there's much more cross over.

But, it is so odd for WWE to have 5 weeks of build to a PPV now. And it really felt it on Raw, that we are so far away from anything happening that this is really skippable stuff.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 26 Jun 2015, 1:58 pm

These things won't garner interest unless they make effort. And if they want to make it big in the Asian markets, then you'd think their television would pander to them a little bit too. Plus its a Network exclusive, thus another thing to advertise to get subscribers. Seems a bit lazy to me, a very American thing to think that what happens in America is news and everything else is filler.

by Prometheus Fri 26 Jun 2015, 2:10 pm

That's just my guess. That this is really just a house show and it's kind of fallen into WWE's lap that two things are happening on it (Brock and the NXT title).

I've given my opinion on NXT as it is at the moment, and not having the title change on an NXT event I personally think sucks. I really think they've lost focus with this brand since March.

With regards to Asian markets, well China, Japan and India I'd expect they'd see as the big markets across Asia and none of them have the network yet. So not much point selling this Network event if they don't have it.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 26 Jun 2015, 2:13 pm

No, but they're selling the brand, and poorly really because its one and done in many ways.

And they're also selling the Network back home. A rather big event, with the limited appearances of Brock Lesnar, is on the Network and they're not advertising it. Seems weird.

by Prometheus Fri 26 Jun 2015, 2:25 pm

I totally see your point of view.

And I don't know what is going through WWE's heads. I mean, we know what American's are like. I'd not be surprised for many of them to be confused that Japan is a different timezone. Or even annoyed that this is happening at a time they can't watch it live. And it's on the 4th of July! Man I can just see those fans who thought "we the people" was a legitimate call to action getting upset.

I think we'll see footage used on Raw, but its pretty clear that they are not seeing this on anywhere near the same level as KotR or EC, which I agree is maybe a missed opportunity, but we have to remember it took them over a year to realise they could do anything on the Network before they showed those.

by Prometheus Fri 26 Jun 2015, 2:37 pm

Sorry Dolph, I should leave this now. But the more you make me think of this, the more I think you have a point.

For example. We know that Kofi is going to be crushed, right? And maybe the rest of the New Day too. But, I think they if they just let Big E suplex Brock or something that would be massive for him. Let someone get a move in against Brock and that could get them hugely over. It could even be Kofi. Yes, Brock can destroy them. But showing that they'd even stand up to Brock and would give him a shot (again even if he no sells it) is a way to make someone as well as Brock look like something coming out of this match.

by Fernando Fri 26 Jun 2015, 9:20 pm

Gunner has been training at the NXT Performance center since his TNA Release.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 27 Jun 2015, 12:57 am

I'm 100% with you Promotheus. Big E getting some offends in and maybe even overpowering Brock for a bit would do wonders. Although I think Brock may make him look a bit small.

by **Enforcer** Sat 27 Jun 2015, 1:47 am

How could Brock make him look small when Big E is so big and fast?

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 27 Jun 2015, 1:53 am

I mean in terms of morals. Brock will be kinder than Big E and make him look small and petulant.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 27 Jun 2015, 1:54 am

By Mike Johnson on 2015-06-26 12:44:20 For those who have asked about the future of Dolph Ziggler and WWE, PWInsider.com has confirmed that Ziggler and WWE came to terms on a new contract several weeks ago.
I am told it's a multi-year deal.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 27 Jun 2015, 1:55 am

http://www.wrestlingdvdnews.com/sneak-peek-sting-triple-h-sit-down-interview/91287/

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 27 Jun 2015, 7:37 pm

"I've done so much flip-flopping sh-t, I'm still dizzy," Big Show explained. "I wake up and go 'am I a good guy or a bad guy today?' Do I smile like a goofball, or look like I haven't had a crap in two weeks?"

by Nakatomi Plaza Sun 28 Jun 2015, 8:47 am

So, this happened at a WWE house show in Boston last night:

https://www.periscope.tv/w/aF9CvTQyMzExOTl8Mjk5OTcyNzhJqfAy3PyIdXWrtLyMq73Ft_MPScNwo2z2-A-rSf5NPQ==

by Nakatomi Plaza Mon 29 Jun 2015, 9:51 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:By Mike Johnson on 2015-06-26 12:44:20 For those who have asked about the future of Dolph Ziggler and WWE, PWInsider.com has confirmed that Ziggler and WWE came to terms on a new contract several weeks ago.
I am told it's a multi-year deal.

Ziggler's denied that he's signed any deal. He said the following on a radio show: "I had a request for an upcoming contract that would end a few months from now, maybe two or three months from now, and they requested back what they would like, I countered another offer and we're waiting to finalize some things.

"I love WWE and I can't picture myself wrestling somewhere else but it's also becoming now where that Wednesday and Thursday, I can't just do that and get some outside live events for comedy and different movie and television options, which would only be to promote myself as a WWE superstar, to make myself a bigger star so I can advance more in WWE. So if I can't find that happy medium, I might have to go away for a little bit. What I wanna do is make myself a bigger asset to WWE. If it involves leaving, that would crush me but it might."

by NickisBHAFC Mon 29 Jun 2015, 10:27 pm

Ziggler will stay, he's a useful member on the roster and he won't want to see his career come to an end in one of the minor leagues.

by talkingpoint Tue 30 Jun 2015, 11:14 am

interesting if true http://dailywrestlingnews.com/backstage-news-tna-gfw-invasion-magnus-status-slammiversary/

by Fernando Tue 30 Jun 2015, 4:32 pm

Lucha Underground have applied to trademark the following:

* Monster Matanza Cueto
* Gift of the Gods Belt
* Gift of the Gods Match
* Believers' Backlash Match
* The Master
* Medallion Match

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 01 Jul 2015, 3:09 pm

by Prometheus Thu 02 Jul 2015, 10:34 pm

Adam D wrote:Following on from the ratings for Impact going up, the ratings for ROH went down this week:
272,000 viewers - down 10% from last week's total of 301,000 viewers.

Total for Impact 449,000 was up 12% from last week.

Although still not back to the Friday night slot, it does show that IMPACT has its audience on DA - I think the above is incredibly significant for wrestling on DA as it puts into question whether they should show wrestling as opposed to keeping TNA.

What I mean by that is although I am basing this on one weeks figures, it points to TNA being the better received product, but that comes at the cost of higher production values for DA. IF a cheap program like ROH is not going to draw in viewers, do they just scrap wrestling altogether.

My hope is that this is positive news for TNA as it shows that it has a hardcore audience and that they will keep them. As long as they get over 500k for the July 1st episode, I think they will be alright.

TNA: 267,000 + 51,000 = 318,000

Wow. Wow. That's around half of what I thought they needed for that show. Just wow. Coming off a PPV, a stacked card, new WC on offer, best of 5 tag team decider, all the buzz around JJ. Wow. I'm really shocked how low that is. I guess the bad buzz about wrestlers leaving just killed TNA right there.

EDIT: This time last year Impact drew 1,325,000 viewers.

by dyrewolfe Fri 03 Jul 2015, 2:08 pm

Well, if that doesn't kill TNA, it surely has to be another nail in their coffin...unless Jarrett and GFW have some kind of long term plan for his former "baby".

by talkingpoint Fri 03 Jul 2015, 2:51 pm

Prometheus wrote:

TNA: 267,000 + 51,000 = 318,000

Wow. Wow. That's around half of what I thought they needed for that show. Just wow. Coming off a PPV, a stacked card, new WC on offer, best of 5 tag team decider, all the buzz around JJ. Wow. I'm really shocked how low that is. I guess the bad buzz about wrestlers leaving just killed TNA right there.

EDIT: This time last year Impact drew 1,325,000 viewers.

I think that just goes to show the damage the internet can do. News travels fast and despite a great show, the rumours surrounding TNA right now are hurting them badly. I feel for the roster who are putting on great shows only to be overlooked and unappreciated.

by Nakatomi Plaza Fri 03 Jul 2015, 6:30 pm

The biggest ever NXT live event will take place the night before Summerslam. NXT have booked out Brooklyn's Barclays Center for the event.

by Nakatomi Plaza Fri 03 Jul 2015, 6:31 pm

Just read the event will be another Takeover, and will be shown on the WWE network.

by Marky Fri 03 Jul 2015, 10:05 pm

That's a hell of a weekender.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:25 am

Jesus Christ that's tempting

by dyrewolfe Mon 06 Jul 2015, 11:31 am

talkingpoint wrote:
Prometheus wrote:

TNA: 267,000 + 51,000 = 318,000

Wow. Wow. That's around half of what I thought they needed for that show. Just wow. Coming off a PPV, a stacked card, new WC on offer, best of 5 tag team decider, all the buzz around JJ. Wow. I'm really shocked how low that is. I guess the bad buzz about wrestlers leaving just killed TNA right there.

EDIT: This time last year Impact drew 1,325,000 viewers.

I think that just goes to show the damage the internet can do. News travels fast and despite a great show, the rumours surrounding TNA right now are hurting them badly. I feel for the roster who are putting on great shows only to be overlooked and unappreciated.

I said pretty much the same thing, either earlier in this thread or the "lets bash TNA" thread. The publicity may be making more people aware of the two companies, but the way we're getting more or less a play-by-play of events will massively hurt the numbers willing to fork out to go to the shows, or buy PPVs.

by Fernando Mon 06 Jul 2015, 3:45 pm

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