DC 2014 Final - 21-23 Nov 2014

First topic message reminder :

SUI and FRA contest the final in a few days.

http://www.daviscup.com/en/draws-results/tie/details.aspx?tieId=100021090

SUI has two players coming out of WTF, while FRA has depth in numbers.

SUI may never be at this point in the near future and can make the best of the presented opportunity. Federer and Wawrinka would like to add this to their CV, if they can. They will rue the opportunity that Lady Luck has thrown their way.

FRA is the last hurdle, and have some good players, a home court advantage and a surface that may favor them more the the SUI. H2Hs may be meaningless in such a contest given that any of the players on one side can beat players on the other side of the net.

ARG v ESP turned out to be an excellent DC final, with DelPotro, Monaco, Nalbandian trying their best to get the better of the other side.

Will this final live up to its billing?

biugo wrote:

legendkillarV2 wrote:

biugo wrote:

legendkillarV2 wrote:

The Special Juan wrote:Apparently Tsonga chose not to play today.....

The commentators reiterating that story. Apparently 5 minutes before the teams were picked! I think he even practiced with Gasquet! If that is true, I wouldn't let him near the DC team again. Quite frankly that is disgraceful.

Disgraceful indeed! However, Benneteau is playing brilliantly - the regrets for France is that Gasquet and Ben didn't prepare together..

It's like Benny is trying to win the match by himself!

Needs to support Gasquet and get him involved.

Maybe involving him is a bit risky?

Sadly he can't sub Richard.

He needs to get Gasquets confidence going. I would go as far as say something like you take the baseline and I take the net.

Well, then when you have suh returns from Stan the man, it's not easy to build up confidence!

Allez Richard, don;t let it finish in 3 sets!

legendkillarV2 wrote:

The Special Juan wrote:Apparently Tsonga chose not to play today.....

The commentators reiterating that story. Apparently 5 minutes before the teams were picked! I think he even practiced with Gasquet! If that is true, I wouldn't let him near the DC team again. Quite frankly that is disgraceful.

After this tournament, I'd agree with that one. They couldn't drop him before tomorrow. What kind of mental state is Gasquet going to be in now?

If only Clement had a Connors or Hewitt like character that would climb right into the ar$e of your opponent.

Maybe Tsonga injured himself yesterday, and wanted to give himself as long as possible to see if he could play?

The Special Juan wrote:

legendkillarV2 wrote:

The Special Juan wrote:Apparently Tsonga chose not to play today.....

The commentators reiterating that story. Apparently 5 minutes before the teams were picked! I think he even practiced with Gasquet! If that is true, I wouldn't let him near the DC team again. Quite frankly that is disgraceful.

After this tournament, I'd agree with that one.  They couldn't drop him before tomorrow.  What kind of mental state is Gasquet going to be in now?

Well if the story is true, I would like Tsonga to cop the flack that a certain Federer did last week.

legendkillarV2 wrote:

biugo wrote:

legendkillarV2 wrote:

biugo wrote:

legendkillarV2 wrote:

The Special Juan wrote:Apparently Tsonga chose not to play today.....

The commentators reiterating that story. Apparently 5 minutes before the teams were picked! I think he even practiced with Gasquet! If that is true, I wouldn't let him near the DC team again. Quite frankly that is disgraceful.

Disgraceful indeed! However, Benneteau is playing brilliantly - the regrets for France is that Gasquet and Ben didn't prepare together..

It's like Benny is trying to win the match by himself!

Needs to support Gasquet and get him involved.

Maybe involving him is a bit risky?

Sadly he can't sub Richard.

He needs to get Gasquets confidence going. I would go as far as say something like you take the baseline and I take the net.

We should bring in subs during DC doubles matches!

"Quick, Gasquet's choking on the big points which he doesn't normally do. Bring on ERV!"

kingraf wrote:Maybe Tsonga injured himself yesterday, and wanted to give himself as long as possible to see if he could play?

I hope not, really... If it's medical I'd prefer something shorter - belly ache?
If he's not playing tomorrow, it will be Simon instead. Quite a tight match up with Federer too.

Jahu wrote:

Haddie-nuff wrote:

Jahu wrote:HN, Wilander is not a big fan of Fed, more balanced I guess, compared to Rusedski who melts when talking about Fed

Keep telling yourself that Jahu

Don't be a Canadian Patriot now, don't start me on patriotism

Im talking about Wilander not Rusedski.. neither am I talking of patriotism ..!!

What's the attendance today? It looks huge

around 25,000 once again

This is Stan's DC. I hope the Fed fans remember that should they go on and win it.

The Special Juan wrote:This is Stan's DC.  I hope the Fed fans remember that should they go on and win it.

I can't see you can say that given Federer won more rubbers than Stan in the QF&SF!

The Special Juan wrote:This is Stan's DC.  I hope the Fed fans remember that should they go on and win it.

Has a DC been won by basically 2 players before, rather than a large team where others could win points in singles and double?

legendkillarV2 wrote:

The Special Juan wrote:This is Stan's DC.  I hope the Fed fans remember that should they go on and win it.

I can't see you can say that given Federer won more rubbers than Stan in the QF&SF!

I agree with lk. Federer got them there and Stan has stepped up in the final when required to do so. So all in all both would deserve it.

emancipator wrote:

legendkillarV2 wrote:

The Special Juan wrote:This is Stan's DC.  I hope the Fed fans remember that should they go on and win it.

I can't see you can say that given Federer won more rubbers than Stan in the QF&SF!

I agree with lk. Federer got them there and Stan has stepped up in the final when required to do so. So all in all both would deserve it.

+1 great effrot from both
But let's wait for them to win before counting chickens...

emancipator wrote:

legendkillarV2 wrote:

The Special Juan wrote:This is Stan's DC.  I hope the Fed fans remember that should they go on and win it.

I can't see you can say that given Federer won more rubbers than Stan in the QF&SF!

I agree with lk. Federer got them there and Stan has stepped up in the final when required to do so. So all in all both would deserve it.

Indeed. Federer carried that team this year when Stan's form was in the toilet. Now it's time for Stan to stand up and he is.

It will be a team effort.

biugo wrote:

emancipator wrote:

legendkillarV2 wrote:

The Special Juan wrote:This is Stan's DC.  I hope the Fed fans remember that should they go on and win it.

I can't see you can say that given Federer won more rubbers than Stan in the QF&SF!

I agree with lk. Federer got them there and Stan has stepped up in the final when required to do so. So all in all both would deserve it.

+1 great effrot from both
But let's wait for them to win before counting chickens...

Absolutely.. it's far from over.

How old is Benneteau. He looks about 50

Moët already on ice for Stan&Fed

ERV will want to say a couple words to Clement soon

ATP doubles top 10



1
B. Bryan / M. Bryan
12800
2
D. Nestor / N. Zimonjic
6020
3
J. Benneteau / E. Roger-Vasselin
5140
4
A. Peya / B. Soares
4870
5
M. Granollers / M. Lopez
4650
6
J. Rojer / H. Tecau
4490
7
I. Dodig / M. Melo
4370
8
L. Kubot / R. Lindstedt
3680
9
E. Butorac / R. Klaasen
3385
10
V. Pospisil / J. Sock
3030

emancipator wrote:How old is Benneteau. He looks about 50

Hahahahah, he is older then Edberg who looks 38.

Haddie-nuff wrote:

The Special Juan wrote:This is Stan's DC.  I hope the Fed fans remember that should they go on and win it.

I know you greatly dislike Federer, but surely you must be joking. No single man can carry a team to the win in the DC, there needs to be at least two involved. The two Swiss have been a fantastic team together this year.

But Stan sure is standing up and being counted right now, when his team needs him most. Awesome match play!

And welcome to the forum Blue Moon

Silver wrote:

Haddie-nuff wrote:

The Special Juan wrote:This is Stan's DC.  I hope the Fed fans remember that should they go on and win it.

I know you greatly dislike Federer, but surely you must be joking. No single man can carry a team to the win in the DC, there needs to be at least two involved. The two Swiss have been a fantastic team together this year.

But Stan sure is standing up and being counted right now, when his team needs him most. Awesome match play!

And welcome to the forum Blue Moon

Silver, you can expect HN to applaud just about anything that makes Federer look/sound bad.

so it's 2-1 for Swiss, interesting day tomorrow!!

That was a perfect performance.

Good match, great play by swiss single players.

So if Stan beats Joe, its all over?

Who's up first tomorrow?

Surprised Fed chose to play, I hope he knows what he is doing.

One step closer to the trophy for SUI.

What a result. I don't think I could've dreamt that better. Both players out in 3 sets in just over 2 hours. Fantastic.

As for the French. Well if the Tsonga rumours are true, just unbelievable. To pull that in a final? Benny and Gasquet never looked comfortable out there.

Not over yet, but the French need a miracle.

Tsonga Fed 1pm

Monfils Stan 3:30

I hope Tsonga wins.  Stan and Monfils deserve to fight for the cup

Tempo21, dont be so mean man

Fed in 4

Stan in 3

Wilander thinking Tsonga will fire up the crowd?

This is a guy that was booed at RG and then moans about the crowd yesterday?

Unless he throws Euro's into the crowd, I can't see them fired up for him

They're a damn good doubles pairing, they should really team up more often. Tough with the scheduling as it is though, alas we need to see more top singles players on the doubles circuit again.

No clue what the hell Tsonga thinks he's doing if that rumour is true! Perhaps he deserves to be roundly trounced tomorrow by his fellow 'shirka'

emancipator wrote:

Silver wrote:

Haddie-nuff wrote:

The Special Juan wrote:This is Stan's DC.  I hope the Fed fans remember that should they go on and win it.

I know you greatly dislike Federer, but surely you must be joking. No single man can carry a team to the win in the DC, there needs to be at least two involved. The two Swiss have been a fantastic team together this year.

But Stan sure is standing up and being counted right now, when his team needs him most. Awesome match play!

And welcome to the forum Blue Moon

Silver, you can expect HN to applaud just about anything that makes Federer look/sound bad. It's quite sad really. And the really pathetic thing is that she's always the first to throw a hissy fit if anyone writes anything remotely negative about Nadal.

Oh come on emancipator.....you can do better than that ...nah nah na nah na.... good coming from you what no

The Special Juan wrote:This is Stan's DC.  I hope the Fed fans remember that should they go on and win it.

?
They wouldn't be here if not for Federer, Stan was beyond abysmal in some of the earlier rounds.

Great win for the Swiss, they have to be huge favourites now.
I fancy tomorrow will be split 1-1, handing Switzerland victory.

Sorry, I meant to add "final" to the above post. He certainly has been "the man" so far.

anyone else catch Federers interview at the end when asked about his match with Tsonga and how well Stan has played? "Tsonga right now is secondary, I really hope this is Stans weekend and he brings us where we want to be" am I reading too much into that or does that sound like he doesn't rate his own chances against Tsonga?

Remarkably though, the tie is still in the balance - how is Fed's back? Will JWT play? Can Stan actually beat a Monfils who's on fire? Will it even get that far?

This could honestly be anywhere from 4-1 to 2-3, and neither extreme would surprise me given the circumstances. Good drama for the end of the season

Edit: CAS, sounds like he's trying to credit Stan's contribution more than anything.

Haddie-nuff wrote:


Oh come on emancipator.....you can do better than that  ...nah nah na nah na.... good coming from you what no

You applauded something which was patently untrue, just because it had a dig at Federer. Can't you do better than that?

Hello greengoblin



I am the emancipator..

We may have met in another world

Haddie's alright. She's a good contributor (when Fed's not the talking point )



emancipator - may the serve be with you.

Can Wawrinka beat a firing Monfils? I don't actually know. Will be exciting to find out for sure. Hopefully it matters.

Who plays Fed? Tsonga is hardly tennis' Mario Balotelli, so I don't think he'd just drop out. Maybe there is a niggle? Maybe he just felt being 100% for the fourth rubber was more important. We'll only know if he was wrong in 24Hrs.

emancipator wrote:Hello greengoblin



I am the emancipator..

We may have met in another world

Haddie's alright. She's a good contributor (when Fed's not the talking point )



emancipator - may the serve be with you.

You arn't so bad yourself..when you are not getting your Size 13's in

greengoblin wrote:

Haddie-nuff wrote:


Oh come on emancipator.....you can do better than that  ...nah nah na nah na.... good coming from you what no

You applauded something which was patently untrue, just because it had a dig at Federer. Can't you do better than that?

So sorry to disappoint  .. I can however do better than you.

Kingraf: I'd be tempted to go with Simon. Gets a lot back, could make Federer run and run and run and run until his back literally explodes on court.

HN, did you agree with TSJ?