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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 6:29 pm

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Evening everyone.

First fight in the way is Jamie McDonnell.

3 rounds in and I have him losing every one of them

Turning off now as neither can punch. I'll watch the footy and turn of after.


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Post by jimdig Sat 22 Nov 2014, 8:59 pm

Quiggs left hook looks like the punch to do the damage tonight.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:00 pm

I give up with quigg. Who on earth is he fighting? He looks in a different league let alone a different country.

This won't go long and if it does, quigg should be ashamed....no disrespect to the Japanese fighter of course.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:00 pm

It will Jim until he fights a decent fighter

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:04 pm

I watch Quigg and don't see anything that suggests he is close to being able to beat Frampton; just do not see it at all.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:08 pm

Agree, Owen. Feasting on fighters who don't hit you on your way in is no preparation for Frampton.

This card needs an exciting fight. Bad!

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Post by 3fingers Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:11 pm

How do I access chat box?

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Post by lfc91 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:11 pm

Nice to hear other people have the same view on frampton quigg. I've Always thought that frampton would maul him but I'm slightly biased seeing as I'm from the same country.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:13 pm

Frampton wins for me should they meet

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Post by jimdig Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:21 pm

Mobile I think this is starting to look like a fight going the distance.

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Post by Haito Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:21 pm

Until hes asked some serious questions the jury is out on Quigg. He never needs to get out of 3rd gear. Hes been protected abit too much for me.
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Post by Dipper Brown Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:23 pm

Hurry up Quigg, I'll be steaming by the time Clev Bellew starts!

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Post by lfc91 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:26 pm

Dipper Brown wrote:Hurry up Quigg, I'll be steaming by the time Clev Bellew starts!

Know the feeling, lost count of the amount of times I've had to re-watch a fight the next day because I've had no recollection of what happened in it...

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:28 pm

Wow. Been watching since the 4th thinking it would have been over....and he is still there?! This guy isn't in the same league as Frampton, LSC or Martinez. No where near. All of this above stop him

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Post by AdamT Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:29 pm

Frampton would outbox Quigg handily

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Post by AdamT Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:30 pm

Kiko Martinez beats Quigg imo

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:30 pm

No offence but have you ever seen him fight before because I have no idea how tough Otake is, fair enough he's not the best but why do you insist that everyone should get knocked out.

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Post by jimdig Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:32 pm

Here come the obvious statement of the night: If quigg runs out of steam he could be in serious trouble.

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Post by Gerry SA Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:32 pm

Not sure how Quigg can call himself a 'world champion'(hwever watered down his regular title is). Frampton and Santa Cruz put Quigg to sleep. Rigondeaux would school him so bad,

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Post by AdamT Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:32 pm

I'm not suggesting Quigg should knock him out, just do not think Quigg is all that good

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Post by jimdig Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:35 pm

In fairness that cut is pretty bad.

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Post by milkyboy Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:37 pm

You're all being harsh on quigg.... He'll be just be fighting to gallacher's master plan. A few fights ago he was instructed to lose the first 6 rounds and come on strong for the draw. Here, he's just under instructions to look rubbish, to lure frampton into the fight before showing his true genius.

Alternatively  he may be just a bit sh*t

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Post by Dipper Brown Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:40 pm

Quigg just seems to want to be a phone box fighter. Frampton has way too much for him.

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Post by 3fingers Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:40 pm

That jap is nails.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:41 pm

So before the fight it was bad because it was gonna be walk over. Now it's bad because it's not a walk over.

Wobble there, surprised Foster didn't stop it...

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Post by Pedro147 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:41 pm

Why does Nick Halling keep saying Quigg is really enjoying this? Absolutely nothing to suggest it and if his body language is anything to go by he looks frustrated.

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Post by Gerry SA Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:41 pm

milkyboy wrote:You're all being harsh on quigg.... He'll be just be fighting to gallacher's master plan. A few fights ago he was instructed to lose the first 6 rounds and come on strong for the draw. Here, he's just under instructions to look rubbish, to lure frampton into the fight before showing his true genius.


Alternatively  he may be just a bit sh*t
That sounds about right...

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:41 pm

If Joshua looks sloppy...I'd still pick him to beat Wilder...

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Post by jimdig Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:42 pm

The doctor is off his head.

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Post by Pedro147 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:42 pm

Ref trying everything to give Quigg a TKO. No way is that cut bad enough for a stoppage.

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Post by AdamT Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:43 pm

Quiggs not rubbish, he's just not true elite. He has decent skills and great stamina.

He would give Frampton something to think about but hasn't the skills to win

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Post by Gerry SA Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:45 pm

AdamT wrote:Quiggs not rubbish, he's just not true elite. He has decent skills and great stamina.

He would give Frampton something to think about but hasn't the skills to win
Only think Frampton has to think about is what round he'd KO the paper chumpion

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:49 pm

Summed up by Adam there;

I'm not saying Quigg is crap, what he does..he does well. However whenever he has stepped up he's not looked great. He took an age to get going in that now infamous draw and here he is fighting a guy who has never left his hometown who was 33 and whilst yes he was teak tough, Quigg should have done more to make the ref stop the fight. If he has aspirations to be at the top of the table then sorry he should be stopping guys like that or at the very least looking a lot more impressive than he did. I thought he looked fairly predictable tonight, his combinations weren't all that impressive and he stills look very awkward when he has to fight going away from the action. All of those things will be detrimental if he steps in with Frampton.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:50 pm

Nice little montage from skysports there.....most definitely getting DeGale vs Groves II next year...unless of course one comes unstuck tonight...anyone think it's a possibility? I've heard DeGale's opponent will be around 16lbs bigger than him come fight time Shocked that can't be right surely?

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Post by jimdig Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:52 pm

Any chance of some knock outs tonight?

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Post by kingraf Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:53 pm

Indeed Milky it's a great tactic, luring your future opponent into a false sense of security. Remember Cotto luring Pacquiao into a false sense of security by losing to Margarito, and then convincing Mayweather to fight him by getting good clubbed by Pacquiao? For good measure he convinced Martínez to fight him by being beaten by Trout. Fair play, this rather elaborate scheme now has him at the lineal middleweight champ of the world
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Post by AdamT Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:53 pm

Like I said, Frampton outboxes him pretty easily. Quiggs workrate and strength would make it competitive for 6 or 7 rounds then Frampton would take over and stop him late.

That's how I see it. Quigg is a paper champ but he's a good pro and If he wasn't a direct rival of Frampton I would fully support him.

If he were somehow, some way defeat Carl he would have my full backing but I doubt that would ever happen.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:53 pm

Quigg is a huge super bantam and is a tough night for anyone......

Frampton may beat him but anyone who thinks its an easy night is a t*t.

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Post by Haito Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:54 pm

It wouldnt surprise me, Periban is a big smw. Degale should be too sharp & too cute though.
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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:56 pm

jimdig wrote:Any chance of some knock outs tonight?

Howard Foster is reffing this one so every chance we get a nice early controversial stoppage! censored

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Post by Dipper Brown Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:57 pm

Has DeGale ditched his rapper? 'It's Chuuuuuunky'

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:01 pm

Errr screen has gone off?

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Post by sugarrayb Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:02 pm

Jimdig I'm absolutely certain Michael Sprott will oblige.

By being laid vertical in around 2 minutes!

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Post by sugarrayb Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:02 pm

Jimdig I'm absolutely certain Michael Sprott will oblige.

By being laid vertical in around 2 minutes!

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Post by jimdig Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:04 pm

Periban is in bad shape. He might oblige before big josh steps up.

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Post by milkyboy Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:04 pm

kingraf wrote:Indeed Milky it's a great tactic, luring your future opponent into a false sense of security. Remember Cotto luring Pacquiao into a false sense of security by losing to Margarito, and then convincing Mayweather to fight him by getting good clubbed by Pacquiao? For good measure he convinced Martínez to fight him by being beaten by Trout. Fair play, this rather elaborate scheme now has him at the lineal middleweight champ of the world

Spot on raf. Sometimes you have to lose the battle to win the war. If others can't see it, well it's no big surprise. We are the only guys with IQs in double figures that frequent this place.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:06 pm

Double figures...isn't that the norm...come back when your in triple figures like me Wink

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:06 pm

Oh come on, what happened to ten counts?

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Post by milkyboy Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:07 pm

sugarrayb wrote:Jimdig I'm absolutely certain Michael Sprott will oblige.

By being laid vertical in around 2 minutes!

I've been laid vertical in less than two minutes before... Never seen it happen to a boxer before.

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:07 pm

Classic Howard foster...

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:07 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:
jimdig wrote:Any chance of some knock outs tonight?

Howard Foster is reffing this one so every chance we get a nice early controversial stoppage! censored

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