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I feel old but luckily for me there's Afro and Hero who are 15/30 years older than me.

The younger ones should feed us grapes and massage our feet.

Seeing as I'm 28, when can you start Viva?

No offence Marky, but I reckon you'd have the worst feet on here.

All that workman and engineering nonsense, you probably walk and stand a lot and wear steel toe caps.

I'd rather give Afro's feet a massage, I bet his are alright.

Haha Marky, me you and Sodhat are the three lions of the Pac we get the younger cubs to do the massages. Afro and Hero are the older has been lions who we have allowed to stay in the Pac .

With all due repect to my elders, I'm not massaging anyone's feet fam you get me?

If you don't you'll have to massage Azzys you know what.

Funny how a result changes everything in the title race, Chelsea fans think they'll go unbeaten and that this Chelsea team is the greatest team ever in Premier league History.

Going unbeaten is a huge task so if it doesn't happen then you know it's not the end of the world for sure.

I don't count anyone out until it's mathematically impossible and I feel City will be right there but I do honestly feel that we will win the title this year. I know that may sound bias but even without the bias I feel we will win it.

As for the best team ever I would say that for sure it's one of our best teams we have had. I look at the first team and I can't see anyone that I swap or change.

You guys definitely won't go unbeaten, I reckon you'll lose before the year is up.

I'd put the Arsenal 98 & 04 above you and the United 94 & 08 team above you top of my head. This Chelsea team is  good and you are undefeated but you don't have that style of Play where it's easy on the eye.

Markys tweet about Fury doing the job, yes its about the result but the best eliete level win in style and I'm yet to see that from Chelsea.

I'd have Cech over Courtious, Carvalho over Cahill, Lampard over Oscar, Makelele over Matic and Robben over William.

Didn't I play 10 players instead of 12?

I would say that we are easy on the eye and there have been moments of genius in our play also.

sodhat wrote:No offence Marky, but I reckon you'd have the worst feet on here.

All that workman and engineering nonsense, you probably walk and stand a lot and wear steel toe caps.

I'd rather give Afro's feet a massage, I bet his are alright.

BRB, crying

We are organised but at the same time we attack and we do it brilliantly.

Oh you're comparing the Chelsea first team against current players.

Neuer over Courtious
Lahm over Ivanovic
Godin over Terry
Kompany over Cahill
Alaba over Azpilicueta
Modric over Fabregas
Schweinstiger over Matic
Bale over Willian
Isco over Oscar
Ronaldo over Hazard
Aguero over Costa

I think you're lying about that,Chelsea are good but there's loads or players I'd rather have. Imagine if I was to say i wouldn't swap any United player,I'd be forced to walk the plank.

You are the plank.

You have your moments but you're not a good attacking team like Arsenal. Mourinho puts defence first, you've seen it for yourself.

Yeah we defend for sure I'm not denying that but for the most part we are on the attack in most games, we aren't usually behind the ball defending which I'm sure you have seen for yourself.

sodhat wrote:You are the plank.

You've got no girlfriend,you'll be lonely this Christmas.

How was your birthday celebration?

Holymiky wrote:Yeah we defend for sure I'm not denying that but for the most part we are on the attack in most games, we aren't usually behind the ball defending which I'm sure you have seen for yourself.

Chelsea play not to concede rather than play to score. You've played United and should have put us to the sword but didn't, City this season and 10 man wba. I agree that you're on the ball a lot but there's a different between that and attacking Football. I don't see sexy football at the bridge and I don't think we will because its in your clubs dna.

I wouldn't say that we don't play to score otherwise we wouldn't be top of the league would we surely? We wouldn't be top of the table if we had drawn 0-0 in every game.

Koba wrote:

sodhat wrote:You are the plank.

You've got no girlfriend,you'll be lonely this Christmas.

How was your birthday celebration?

I've been lonely the last three now, I seem to work girls in through the summer months before the cold harsh winter comes. I might have another crack at the girl I asked out at the last Christmas party. I saw her ten minutes ago and she smiled and said hello so she can't be that put off.

Birthday was good but we should have never left the German beerhouse. That place was amazing. Very expensive, but still.

I didn't say that, everyone knows Chelsea priority is not to concede and then go for a goal.

I'm sure Chelsea don't play to draw games but you've drawn 3 times this season.

Gerrard >> Lampard

In my experience its better to have a girlfriend in the winter so you can enjoy the summer for yourself. Do you plan on getting married Sodhat? I want to but I'm scared that life won't be as fun.

We haven't lost though.

I disagree with Gerrard being better than Lampard. I'm
Not denying the fact that Gerrard is an amazing player don't get me wrong but yeah.

Holymiky wrote:We haven't lost though.

I disagree with Gerrard being better than Lampard. I'm
Not denying the fact that Gerrard is an amazing player don't get me wrong but yeah.

But you've drawn and I'm sure Mourinho wanted the wins.

You can disagree but its true, Gerrard is a lot better than Lampard. For me is the third greatest midfielder in Premier League History. Unless Lampard is better than Keane, Vieira or Scholes you cant disagree. I've never been a fan of Gerarrd but I would have loved him to have been the man to replace Keane at United.

Koba wrote:In my experience its better to have a girlfriend in the winter so you can enjoy the summer for yourself. Do you plan on getting married Sodhat? I want to but I'm scared that life won't be as fun.

I would need to find someone willing to be married to me first.

I don't think life wouldn't be as fun. It'd be different but it depends what you want from it I suppose.

buttseks

Arsenal's invincibles played to draw yet you rank them above this Chelsea side Viva.

Arsenal side was unbeaten in the league for a whole season, Chelsea are unbeaten after 12 games and claiming to be the best ever. Chelsea didn't play Football anywhere near close to that Arsenal side.

Marky wrote:Arsenal's invincibles played to draw yet you rank them above this Chelsea side Viva.

Didn't that Arsenal side draw something like 12 times. I remember that they scored less points going unbeaten than Chelsea scored the following season despite losing a game.

I rank what Chelsea did in 04/05 higher than what Arsenal did the year before.

It's all very well going unbeaten, but that doesn't guarantee you a trophy. Extreme situation is you could go the season unbeaten, score 38 points and get relegated.

Cloughs Forest unbeaten run > both

I enjoy December it means can eat chocolate on a daily basis.  Advent Calendar (We all know Jacamo Viva has one)

Got my Dad/Mum present just need to get my sister & her partners now

Nobody remembers how many goals or points you picked up in a season but everyone will remember going unbeaten. Arsenal won a trophy so lets go not with ifs and buts.

Anyway it wasn't about what's better but what teams greater and for me its Arsenal anyday over Chelsea. Anyone can win playing ugly buy not many do it in style and Chelsea never will .

Don't think you need an excuse to eat Chocolates Jacamo Nando. (it rhymes)

What makes it even more impressive is Wenger didn't have blood money to fund the project unlike Chelsea.

Viva, I thought I was the closet Arsenal fan? Wenger been buying you sweeties?
Utd 99 team > the rest.

I don't agree that Chelsea don't play with style though. There was that game at Old Trafford where they were negative, but other than that, I've enjoyed their style of play. They have been really good to watch this year in my opinion.

What I don't get is the Arsenal fans who say they wouldn't swap going the season unbeaten for a Champions League win. I'd go for the trophy every time

Hero wrote:Viva, I thought I was the closet Arsenal fan? Wenger been buying you sweeties?
Utd 99 team > the rest.

If we are rating it on style of play, 1982 Brazil trumps every one

And 1970 Brazil over that.

Hero wrote:And 1970 Brazil over that.

1982 Brazil >> 1970 Brazil

Koba wrote:What makes it even more impressive is Wenger didn't have blood money to fund the project unlike Chelsea.

This I completely agree with though ^

It's hard not to dislike it when a team becomes successful just because of external money coming in.

Chelsea or City winning things will never be the same achievement as United, Liverpool or Arsenal to me. The latter teams have built up their sides over history and established their place at the table through success, generating their riches themselves. If Abramovich or the Sheikhs hadn't got involved, would Chelsea or City have been anywhere near challenging - they'd be mid table clubs at best, more likely still yo yo clubs.

Hero wrote:Viva, I thought I was the closet Arsenal fan? Wenger been buying you sweeties?
Utd 99 team > the rest.

I have a lot of respect for Arsenal and Mr Wenger.

99 is a given, it'd be embarrassing to even compare that team with these puny amateurs.

There's also the Wes brom game and man City. Individually I like watching some of their players and they do play some good moves but generally I'm not a fan of their football.

How different it could have been in 99.

They were 2 minutes from losing the CL final, they were a Bergkamp penalty away from losing the FA Cup semi final and a "Arsenal bottling it against Leeds in the second last game" away from not winning the league.

I'm not discredting United's achievement because even I was jumping up and down when United scored their second against Bayern and what they achieved was immense.

But it does show how fine a line between a team being legends and a team being largely forgotten

You've a point Afro, you can say the same about the Chelsea 08 side more or less United's equal that season. Cristiano Ronaldo and a John Terry penalty miss was the difference between the sides. It could have so easily been Chelsea as the double winners that season.

Afro wrote:

Koba wrote:What makes it even more impressive is Wenger didn't have blood money to fund the project unlike Chelsea.

This I completely agree with though ^

It's hard not to dislike it when a team becomes successful just because of external money coming in.

Chelsea or City winning things will never be the same achievement as United, Liverpool or Arsenal to me. The latter teams have built up their sides over history and established their place at the table through success, generating their riches themselves. If Abramovich or the Sheikhs hadn't got involved, would Chelsea or City have been anywhere near challenging - they'd be mid table clubs at best, more likely still yo yo clubs.

Regarding City, you may be right. But do you remember where Chelsea finished in the Premier League the season before Abramovich bought the club?

Third. It was Man U, then Arsenal, then Chelsea. They were already a Champions League side and they were already closing the gap.

Clearly you don't remember either Marky

Alright, so Newcastle had a one off third place and Chelsea were fourth. Still above Liverpool, Spurs and the rest of the current Champions League chasers.

Point remains valid

Yeah Chelsea weren't serious contenders but they were no mugs pre roman

True they were the equivalent of Spurs. Occasional top 4 more often 5th/6th

Pre success Chelsea had pants support too. Just 20 years ago they got 19,000 a game, when they dropped a division it was 12,000.
Utd though even when they were in the old 2nd division were the most supported club in England.