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Post by kingraf Sat 29 Nov 2014, 8:42 pm

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You're both quite awful, but I wouldn't rule anybody out of anything yet. Liverpool are THIRTEENTH and they are just five points off a CL spot (although, they might give up on it this year, so they can make a run for it next year). The teams are just all so close this season, u don't think it would have even cleared up by Christmas (except Chelsea winning the league, they should be coronated by then). Citeh are basically trying the Suárez trick with Agüero, and while it's working at the moment, I'd say with his injury track record, the one with the thunder thighs is not someone you want to base your entire season around. If Agüero's out, Citeh struggle (hell, with Agüero in they've made heavy weather). I'd back both Utd and Arsenal to make it, but If Southampton can make it out of December still top five, I think it begins to get interesting
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 13 Dec 2014, 2:50 am

No one fancy discussing the Premier League plan for Friday night matches?

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Dec 2014, 9:16 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Sissoko and Krul are misses, the rest are a bit meh

Clearly you haven't watched us since the turnaround, but then you don't support us, so you wouldn't of seen the reasons behind it. Taylor has been brilliant, when he's started, we haven't lost in like the six games he's started since replacing Williamson. The one games he didn't start was at WHU, where we losthe didn't start. Abeid was man of the match vs Liverpool & is the long term successor to Tiote. Aaron's is one of our brightest English talents, ripped apart a number of teams, scored & helped knock out a near full strength City side in the League Cup. Clearly just 'meh' for us? Also, De Jong was Ajax captain, technically a very good player, but has been injured & therefore people haven't seen his true ability as of yet.

Arsenal can moan about injuries, but 50% of their injuries are to average players like Arteta, Rosicky, Szczeny & Monreal types.


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Post by Guest Sat 13 Dec 2014, 9:31 am

I was there for WBA/Newcastle game, Abeid looked great in the middle & your right he was dominant vs Liverpool. Think people need to understand how important these lesser known players have been to Newcastle over the recent period. You can't lable them 'meh' because they aren't big name players. Taylor might not have a brain, but he can defend, that's for sure.

As for Friday night games, it was inevitable at some point. Too much demand, too much competition for TV rights to showcase games, so expanding to Friday was eventually going to happen. I like the idea, would kick off the weekend

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 13 Dec 2014, 2:18 pm

De Jong is yet to have any impact though so its hard to say if hes a miss or not. Taylor is fine, but hes no Colo and is an average defender. Aarons has been decent but isnt particularly likely to start and it seems a couple moments have made him a big deal, not like Toon fans to overreact though. Abeid is decent but not pivotal to Newcastle.

So yeah, I stand by it. The injury list is pretty much not comparable to Arsenal's

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Dec 2014, 2:26 pm

szczeny - average, not missed, arteta - terrible, not missed, monreal, shambolic, not missed, diaby - average, never fit until he needs a new contract, not missed, chambers, woeful & card happy, not missed, rosicky, basically a B player, not missed, ozil, anonymous in the PL, not missed.

out of all those injuries they keep banging on about, only ramsey, koscielny & wilshere would be actually missed, that's 3.

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Post by kingraf Sat 13 Dec 2014, 2:26 pm

If any of the PL managers thought they had injury issues, they should take a peak at my fantasy football squad... Should be giving an U13 a start just now.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 13 Dec 2014, 2:30 pm

John wrote:szczeny - average, not missed, arteta - terrible, not missed, monreal, shambolic, not missed, diaby - average, never fit until he needs a new contract, not missed, chambers, woeful & card happy, not missed, rosicky, basically a B player, not missed, ozil, anonymous in the PL, not missed.

out of all those injuries they keep banging on about, only ramsey, koscielny & wilshere would be actually missed, that's 3.

Diaby is pretty much Taylor, both are only at their clubs for medical testing.

The thing is that they have first teamers out and then their back ups out. Debuchy will be centre back, Flamini has to start as there are no alternatives. I'd suggest Arsenal probably feel Ozil and Walcott's absences more than you think.

I stand by it, the only two important ones are Sissoko and Krul

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Dec 2014, 2:35 pm

a fair majority of Arsenal's injuries to those B players doesn't actually weaken them , they just get added to the pot, to enhance the list. I see them seeing off Newcastle quite comfortably because of the squad strength.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 13 Dec 2014, 3:22 pm

Adam Johnson is a diving Tinkywinky!

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Dec 2014, 3:41 pm

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 13 Dec 2014, 3:48 pm

Altidore has just missed a chance only Altidore could miss

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Post by kingraf Sat 13 Dec 2014, 3:57 pm

Well well well Lampard. Quite the Indian summer it's becoming.
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Post by Fernando Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:17 pm

So Willian on a yellow dives no card
Gary Cahill on a yellow dives no car
Diego Costa dives not a on yellow gets booked

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Post by Fernando Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:18 pm

To add insult to injury Tom Huddlestone just been sent off for Hull.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:19 pm

Frank Lampard scoring again. What a player! Of course the haters will still hate!

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:21 pm

All going pear shaped for Hull, can see Bruce being sacked over Xmas. Huddlestone three game ban, Ben Arfa's booked a one way trip to France & Hull are in the bottom 3.

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Post by Fernando Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:23 pm

Gotta feel sorry for Brucey today. The Ref is having a mare might aswell just put a Chelsea shirt on him and get it done with.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:25 pm

Hull would be stupid to get rid of Bruce.

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Post by kingraf Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:26 pm

Think it's time to accept maybe Mourinho utilised Lampard wrongly last season. Might have cost them the league as well.
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Post by Fernando Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:26 pm

Chelsea 2-0 Hull City - Diego Costa 

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Post by kingraf Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:30 pm

Two goals separating him from Agüero.
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Post by Guest Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:30 pm

the end of southampton, good while it lasted

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:35 pm

Ashley Barnes scoring in the Premiership. I'm not hurt.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:38 pm

The photo I was looking for! Kompany now of injured for city.

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Post by Fernando Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:55 pm

Arsneal XI - Szczesny, Bellerin, Debuchy, Mertesacker, Gibbs, Flamini, Cazorla, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Alexis, Welbeck, Giroud
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Martinez, Ajayi, Coquelin, Maitland-Niles, Campbell, Podolski, Sanogo

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Alnwick; Janmaat, Williamson, Coloccini (c), Dummett; Tiote, Colback; Gouffran, Perez, Ameobi; Cisse
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Woodman, Haidara, Anita, Vuckic, Cabella, Armstrong, Riviere

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Dec 2014, 4:59 pm

Hardly a weak Arsenal side

Eventful day, status quo at the top, Southampton have just blown up, they will fall like a stone now, especially given the xmas fixtures. Cracking win for Burnley, heaps more pressure on Bruce.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat 13 Dec 2014, 5:40 pm

Decent enough point, we were the better team but reasonably fair result. Alex Song is world class, possibly the best player I've seen in a West Ham shirt. With Saints losing we're nicely set in that top four. Can't go below Liverpool before Christmas, thats just incredible to say

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Post by kingraf Sat 13 Dec 2014, 5:45 pm

This is the most enjoyable fixture of the Premier league. It's guaranteed to drive john crazy
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 13 Dec 2014, 5:46 pm

The mighty clarets march towards mid table continues #dychefortheballondor
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Post by Guest Sat 13 Dec 2014, 5:50 pm

Typical Giroud to score against us. Williamson & Alnwick are awful & counter attacking football won't work if we dont have the penetration from Sissoko. This is a free hit anyway this game, more interested in the league cup Qf next week

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Post by FootballLight Sat 13 Dec 2014, 6:13 pm

It's fair to say that Newcastle have been well in this game so far. I know they are still 1-0 down but they've had a couple of decent chances and have looked fairly solid when in possession. Sammy Ameobi looks particularly threatening against Bellion so it could be quite interesting.

The penetration isn't there with Sissoko but as long as you can scrap a chance in the box, I'd put good money on Cisse to grab a goal if the ball finds him. That's surely got to be Newcastle's main aim. Scrap a chance for Cisse in the box or put Arsenal's poor set piece plays to an advantage.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 13 Dec 2014, 6:21 pm

Newcastle's aim is to create a chance for their striker in the box?

Well who'd have thunk it
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Post by FootballLight Sat 13 Dec 2014, 6:26 pm

I don't know anyone who would "thunk" it if I'm honest. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sat 13 Dec 2014, 6:44 pm

Sunderland getting a ridiculous number of draws.... 10 out of 16 played.

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Post by Hero Sat 13 Dec 2014, 6:50 pm

Reckon Giroud turns it on specifically for John.

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Dec 2014, 6:56 pm

Stoke - lost - Williamson played
Leicester - win - Williamson didn't play
Tottenham - win - Williamson didn't play
Liverpool - win - Williamson didn't play
West brom - win - Williamson didn't play (Sub app)
west ham - lost - Williamson played
Burnley - drew - Williamson played
Chelsea - win - Williamson didn't play
Arsenal - lost - Williamson played

Quite a theme. Alnwick until January fills me with confidence too...NOT!

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 13 Dec 2014, 8:08 pm

A team the size of Newcastle is always going to struggle more with a long list of injuries than a team like Arsenal, it's futile trying to suggest otherwise.

It's seems like it's a yearly theme that as soon as Arsenal get some injuries it's a big deal, it's far from ideal but the top 5/6 have such big squads they should just get on with it and stop complaining.

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Dec 2014, 8:13 pm

lol at that record with Mike Williamson in the team

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Dec 2014, 9:01 pm

John wrote:Newcastle United manager Alan Pardew has been named Barclays Manager of the Month

Great to see Pardew win this award, now for the inevitable thrashing at the Emirates.

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Post by Fernando Sat 13 Dec 2014, 9:50 pm

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John wrote:Newcastle United manager Alan Pardew has been named Barclays Manager of the Month

Great to see Pardew win this award, now for the inevitable thrashing at the Emirates.

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Tbf i think everyone knew Santi was going to score at some point. Just so then the papers can make cringeworthy Santi Claus headlines really angel

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Post by socal1976 Sun 14 Dec 2014, 5:29 am

Giroud 6 goals in 5 games against Newcastle, John I think he must be a 606v2 reader. There is a god and he has a sense of humor.

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Post by Fernando Sun 14 Dec 2014, 10:02 am

Plot Twist: SoCal is Giroud Laugh

Predictions for Manure vs Liverfool - Manure should win but i have a good feeling about the Scousers today and this worries me Laugh

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Post by socal1976 Sun 14 Dec 2014, 10:10 am

Fernando, I am as good looking as Giroud but with more pace. John is a good guy it is just too ironic that Giroud's best goal scoring mark against any team is his 606v2 nemesis's favorite squad.

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Post by Fernando Sun 14 Dec 2014, 12:30 pm

United XI: De Gea, Valencia, Jones, Evans, Young, Carrick, Fellaini, Mata, Rooney, van Persie, Wilson

United subs vs Liverpool: Lindegaard, McNair, Blackett, Herrera, Fletcher, Januzaj, Falcao

LFC XI to face Manchester United: Jones, Skrtel, Lovren, Johnson, Moreno, Henderson, Allen, Gerrard, Coutinho, Lallana, Sterling

#LFC substitutes: Mignolet, Toure, Lambert, Lucas, Can, Balotelli, Markovic.

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Post by Crimey Sun 14 Dec 2014, 12:40 pm

As bad as Mignolet has been, don't think he should be dropped until a better replacement than Jones had been found. No idea why Lovren has been put back into the squad when Toure has actually been playing well. At least the bench has more attacking threat than it has done in the last few games. Glad Sterling as a false nine is being tried out, expecting to play on the counter in this game and try and hit them with the pace of Moreno, Coutinho, Sterling.

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Post by kingraf Sun 14 Dec 2014, 12:54 pm

Liverpool could win this you know?
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Post by Crimey Sun 14 Dec 2014, 12:58 pm

Both teams are vulnerable at the back, it depends who is the most fired up I think. Valencia and Young are the weak spots for United, testing Brad Jones and Lovren as well as a lack of cover from Lucas is Liverpool's.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Dec 2014, 1:15 pm

Jones is an awful, awful keeper.

United appear to have gone with the Kevin Keegan school of Premier League tactical play. "F*ck it, we can't defend anyway, lets just play all our strikers"

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Dec 2014, 1:16 pm

I am gonna guess at this point that Carrick is part of a back 5 and Rooney is in midfield

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